What Ever Happened to the ‘Principality of Zeon’? The Surprising Successor Nation That Rose From the Ashes of ‘Side 3’

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A thread sparked by a MAGMix article, “What Happened to the Principality of Zeon After the War Ended,” has been blowing up on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board. Posters traded notes on how Zeon, defeated by the Federation in the One Year War, kept reinventing itself afterward — surviving through the Delaz Fleet, Axis, and Neo Zeon before the Zabi bloodline finally died out with Mineva Lao Zabi. A flurry of replies worked to connect the dots between the leaders who came after Char’s Counterattack and later works like Crossbone Gundam, piecing together the “postwar history” that the mainline story never spells out.

MAGMix

10/13

What Happened to the Principality of Zeon After the War Ended

Source: magmix.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:03
Sieg Zeon!
85AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:29
Re: #2
It genuinely gave me chills when just some random middle-aged lady shouted that in Char's Counterattack.
3AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:05
Anime talk again?
Adults don't care about this stuff anymore.
5AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:08
Re: #3
That's because you're a kid. (a nod to Char Aznable's famous line)
63AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:10
Re: #3
Nobody watching Gundam these days is a kid anyway.
4AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:08
Live-action Gundam

[Federation Forces]
Amuro: Hiroshi Tachi
Bright: Kyohei Shibata
Sayla: Atsuko Asano
Matilda: Nana Kinomi
[Zeon Forces]
Char: Kazuki Enari
Gihren Zabi: Takuzo Kadono
Lalah: Pinko Izumi
Ramba Ral: Nobuto Okamoto
18AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:25
Re: #4
Lol, that's basically a crossover between Dangerous Detectives and The World Is Full of Demons (two classic Japanese dramas these actors are known for).
6AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:08
Zion and Zeon actually come from the same root word, you know.
7AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:11
Brought down by a single mobile suit, no less.
16AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:21
Re: #7
Garma → Char
Dozle → Amuro
Sasuro → Kycilia
Kycilia → Char
Gihren → Kycilia
Degwin → Gihren

Honestly, the whole decline comes down to infighting within the family.
12AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:17
Is the old man Judau showing up the one from Crossbone Gundam?
20AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:26
Re: #12
He first appeared in the V Gundam side story, though chronologically that's actually the last one

68AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:14
Re: #20
So it really is all connected after all.
24AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:30
I assume none of you consider Unicorn canon, right?
26AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:35
Re: #24
UC's fine, but I can't forgive NT (Gundam NT/Narrative).
25AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:31
Compared to this, Cosmo Babylonia was pretty tame — all they did was kill Birgit.
32AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:40
Re: #25
I mean, come on — he's supposed to be Arthur, right?
And then you look at his face and it's Birgit
Shebook: 'Wait, huh? Who even is this guy lol'
That's the kind of twist it is.
27AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:36
It's near Toji Temple in Kyoto, you know.
77AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:24
Re: #27
That okonomiyaki place?
Is it even still open?
33AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:42
What happened to the leadership after Mineva?
40AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:47
Re: #33
Char took Zion back.
61AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:06
Re: #33
Apparently Mineva Lao Zabi never married and had no children.
That's where the Zabi bloodline comes to an end.
36AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:43
So the Zabi heir is Dozle Zabi's kid, Mineva Lao Zabi?
48AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:52
Re: #36
Didn't Gihren have a kid with his mistress?
41AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:47
Why on earth did they build a colony on the far side of the moon?
51AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:53
Re: #41
It's not that they deliberately built it on the far side of the moon — it just happened to end up there. The colonies are actually built at the Lagrange points.
53AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:53
Re: #48
Is Glemy Toto a clone of Gihren?
59AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:04
Re: #53
No — Glemy was a test-tube baby made using Gihren's sperm.
The ones actually considered clones are Lance Gilane and Nyy Gilane.
56AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:58
Top 3 series that everyone my age was obsessed with, but I personally know nothing about:

'Gundam,' 'Dragon Ball,' and 'Fist of the North Star'…
64AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:11
Re: #56
Gundam and Hokuto no Ken I get, but with Dragon Ball didn't the info just reach you automatically just by being alive?
72AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:16
Re: #56
I watched all of them after the fact, not in real time.
90AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:33
Re: #56
Dragon Ball's the one I actually get.
I liked it in the first volume, but once everyone started going on about who's stronger than who,
it stopped being fun.
60AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:05
People used to say it was unrealistic for Zeon to crank out so many different mobile suits in such a short time,
but if today's AI advances a few more generations, it might actually become plausible.
86AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:30
Re: #60
Look at the Russia-Ukraine war.
The world's first robotic airborne unit has already seen combat.
Fully autonomous killer drones are flying around out there.

AI is already being used for operation planning, unit command, and weapons control.
Combine all those AIs and you've basically got a machine army.
The near-future war became reality in just four years.

Wartime is when hyper-fast evolution happens.
62AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:08
Re: #61
Is Banagher sterile? (seedless = tane-nashi, a play on his name)
82AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:27
Re: #62
He had a kid with Audrey.
74AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:21
Forget G-Reco and Turn A —
someone make something set after Zanscare.
81AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:26
Re: #74
An anime adaptation of Gaia Gear, please.
75AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:21
Zeon is pretty blatantly just a ripoff of the Na*is (Nazis), isn't it?
78AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:24
Re: #75
Not at all —
it's a war of independence.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

In the Mobile Suit Gundam universe, the Principality of Zeon is set up to have survived as an independent state even after surrendering to the Federation in the One Year War. The TV series itself never depicts what happened afterward, but that history has gradually been filled in piece by piece through side stories like Char’s Counterattack and various games and novels. The thread’s discussion of the Delaz Conflict, the rise and fall of Neo Zeon, and the Zabi bloodline ending with Mineva Lao Zabi are all built on that accumulated side-story lore. Where the replies didn’t quite line up with each other comes down to the fact that even fans don’t agree on which side stories or which timeline should count as ‘official’ — the answer shifts depending on how you read the chronology across different works. It’s also easy to get confused if you don’t know that cases like Crossbone Gundam and the V Gundam side story have their release order reversed from their in-universe chronological order.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread ‘What Ever Happened to the “Principality of Zeon”? The Surprising Successor Nation That Rose From the Ashes of “Side 3”.’

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