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A thread sparked by a MAGMix article, “What Happened to the Principality of Zeon After the War Ended,” has been blowing up on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board. Posters traded notes on how Zeon, defeated by the Federation in the One Year War, kept reinventing itself afterward — surviving through the Delaz Fleet, Axis, and Neo Zeon before the Zabi bloodline finally died out with Mineva Lao Zabi. A flurry of replies worked to connect the dots between the leaders who came after Char’s Counterattack and later works like Crossbone Gundam, piecing together the “postwar history” that the mainline story never spells out.
MAGMix
10/13
What Happened to the Principality of Zeon After the War Ended
Source: magmix.jp / Read the original article here
What people said
It genuinely gave me chills when just some random middle-aged lady shouted that in Char's Counterattack.
Adults don't care about this stuff anymore.
That's because you're a kid. (a nod to Char Aznable's famous line)
Nobody watching Gundam these days is a kid anyway.
[Federation Forces]
Amuro: Hiroshi Tachi
Bright: Kyohei Shibata
Sayla: Atsuko Asano
Matilda: Nana Kinomi
[Zeon Forces]
Char: Kazuki Enari
Gihren Zabi: Takuzo Kadono
Lalah: Pinko Izumi
Ramba Ral: Nobuto Okamoto
Lol, that's basically a crossover between Dangerous Detectives and The World Is Full of Demons (two classic Japanese dramas these actors are known for).
Garma → Char
Dozle → Amuro
Sasuro → Kycilia
Kycilia → Char
Gihren → Kycilia
Degwin → Gihren
Honestly, the whole decline comes down to infighting within the family.
He first appeared in the V Gundam side story, though chronologically that's actually the last one
So it really is all connected after all.
UC's fine, but I can't forgive NT (Gundam NT/Narrative).
I mean, come on — he's supposed to be Arthur, right?
And then you look at his face and it's Birgit
Shebook: 'Wait, huh? Who even is this guy lol'
That's the kind of twist it is.
That okonomiyaki place?
Is it even still open?
Char took Zion back.
Apparently Mineva Lao Zabi never married and had no children.
That's where the Zabi bloodline comes to an end.
Didn't Gihren have a kid with his mistress?
It's not that they deliberately built it on the far side of the moon — it just happened to end up there. The colonies are actually built at the Lagrange points.
Is Glemy Toto a clone of Gihren?
No — Glemy was a test-tube baby made using Gihren's sperm.
The ones actually considered clones are Lance Gilane and Nyy Gilane.
'Gundam,' 'Dragon Ball,' and 'Fist of the North Star'…
Gundam and Hokuto no Ken I get, but with Dragon Ball didn't the info just reach you automatically just by being alive?
I watched all of them after the fact, not in real time.
Dragon Ball's the one I actually get.
I liked it in the first volume, but once everyone started going on about who's stronger than who,
it stopped being fun.
but if today's AI advances a few more generations, it might actually become plausible.
Look at the Russia-Ukraine war.
The world's first robotic airborne unit has already seen combat.
Fully autonomous killer drones are flying around out there.
AI is already being used for operation planning, unit command, and weapons control.
Combine all those AIs and you've basically got a machine army.
The near-future war became reality in just four years.
Wartime is when hyper-fast evolution happens.
Is Banagher sterile? (seedless = tane-nashi, a play on his name)
He had a kid with Audrey.
someone make something set after Zanscare.
An anime adaptation of Gaia Gear, please.
Not at all —
it's a war of independence.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
In the Mobile Suit Gundam universe, the Principality of Zeon is set up to have survived as an independent state even after surrendering to the Federation in the One Year War. The TV series itself never depicts what happened afterward, but that history has gradually been filled in piece by piece through side stories like Char’s Counterattack and various games and novels. The thread’s discussion of the Delaz Conflict, the rise and fall of Neo Zeon, and the Zabi bloodline ending with Mineva Lao Zabi are all built on that accumulated side-story lore. Where the replies didn’t quite line up with each other comes down to the fact that even fans don’t agree on which side stories or which timeline should count as ‘official’ — the answer shifts depending on how you read the chronology across different works. It’s also easy to get confused if you don’t know that cases like Crossbone Gundam and the V Gundam side story have their release order reversed from their in-universe chronological order.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread ‘What Ever Happened to the “Principality of Zeon”? The Surprising Successor Nation That Rose From the Ashes of “Side 3”.’
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