Scientists Measure How Much Pee Ends Up in Pool Water Using Artificial Sweeteners — 5ch: “Just Go Before You Get In”

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The story

A research team at the University of Alberta in Canada published a paper in 2017 that estimated how much urine gets mixed into swimming pools by measuring concentrations of the artificial sweetener acesulfame potassium. The findings sparked a wave of posts on 5ch sharing experiences and opinions about pool and bath etiquette and hygiene.

Published 8/26 (Wed) 6:05 AM

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“Sweetened Swimming Pools and Hot Tubs,” a paper published in 2017 in the journal Environmental Science & Technology Letters by researchers at the University of Alberta in Canada, quantified the amount of urine mixed into swimming pools using artificial sweeteners.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:46
LEGENDARY THREAD INCOMING━━━━━━(°∀°)━━━━━━!!!!
42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:57
This has zero breaking-news value, this is from 2017.
51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:59
Just go before you get in the pool.
4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:46
Isn't the pee concentration probably way higher in the ocean?
58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:01
Re: #4
Nah, the ocean's huge though.
10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:48
Toshimaen's pool, which packed in like 50,000 people and is sadly gone now, must have been something else. (Toshimaen was a famous Tokyo amusement park that closed in 2020)
52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:00
Re: #10
That wasn't a pool, that was a potato-scrubbing tub. (Japanese slang for a spot so packed with bodies it looks like potatoes being scrubbed together in a barrel)
There are probably people out there who'll go their whole lives thinking that's what playing in water is.
20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:51
People who pee in the bathtub —
there are surprisingly a lot of them.
84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:06
Re: #20
Don't casually generalize your own messed-up daily habits to everyone else.
26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:54
Peeing in the pool is basically normal — honestly I don't even remember ever using the pool restroom or seeing anyone else use it.
At outdoor pools, bugs are drowning all over the place anyway,
and at public pools you'll sometimes even see poop floating.
98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:08
Re: #26
That's a joke, right? I hear this kind of thing a lot on 5ch, but
I want to believe people who actually pee in the pool are a tiny minority.
30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:55
Isn't a fair chunk of it probably sweat too?
38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:56
Re: #30
There are a lot of serious swimmers out there,
so probably about as much sweat pours in as from track-and-field athletes.
66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:02
Re: #30
If anything, there's more sweat in there than urine.
31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:55
I think there are some things in this world you're better off not knowing.
50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:59
Re: #31
Right?
Same goes for hot springs and spas.
After I've had a nice, satisfying pee, I watch the next guy come in and wash his face with the water and think, ugh, poor guy.
That's why I never take a spot downstream in the bath.
32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:56
Is it true or false that your eyes turning red after school pool time
isn't actually from the chlorine, but from the pee?
62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:02
Re: #32
Don't worry, it's true! 🤗
45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:58
Pools are huge, but
if you tested somewhere that isn't a natural hot spring, or a regular public bathhouse in Japan, the numbers would probably be way worse.
54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:00
Re: #45
If it's a fresh-flowing natural spring source, no problem.
Even circulating baths filter the water, so the pee gets removed.
46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:58
I guess this assumes the concentration of that acesulfame-whatever in urine is the same for everyone?
47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 13:58
Got stuck behind a slow old man or woman at the ward pool and literally saw a heat-shimmer effect coming off them.
Never going back again.
88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:07
Re: #47
That's like a phantom pregnancy or something lol
64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:02
It's Bakarhythm's fault that peeing in your own bathtub for the guilty thrill became a nationwide thing — he said it felt good on TV and now the whole country's got bathtub-pee people. (Bakarhythm is a well-known Japanese comedian)
70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:03
Re: #64
Before that, Downtown already spread it back when they were young hosts. (Downtown is a famous Japanese comedy duo)
78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:05
Re: #50
Remember all those people who used to smugly lecture that washing your body before entering the bath is proper manners? They've all disappeared.
Guess they finally figured out that peeing after you get out is the objectively correct move.
Blindly trusting Japanese people's civility and good nature just makes you the fool.
83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:06
Ever since going to the beach and having the beach-hut staff point out where the restroom is, I've started thinking, do I really need that information?
102AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:09
Re: #83
It'd be hilarious if the ocean itself had a sign saying 'restroom here.'
104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:09
Re: #78
Still, you should at least rinse off around your butt and privates before getting in.
I've actually seen someone with a piece of tissue stuck to their butt. Re: #83
90AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:07
How does that translate into a Japanese school's 50-meter pool?
93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:08
Re: #90
Don't you mean Osaka, not Japan? (a jab implying Osaka's standards are on another level)
145AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:16
So there's pee mixed into the water supply source too?
151AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:17
Re: #145
Astronauts purify and drink their own pee to save water in space. It's basically a perpetual motion machine.
162AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:18
Re: #145
Even natural spring water welling up from underground can be so contaminated near ranches that locals won't drink it, and water flowing through nature is often full of bugs, animal carcasses, and viruses — always boil it first.
206AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:27
It reached up to 571 times the level found in the tap water that serves as the source (6–15 ng/L).

Hmm, so is the ocean actually safer to swim in than the pool?
212AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:28
Re: #206
I've actually seen poop floating on the surface at a crowded beach, so who knows.
218AnonymousAug 26, 2026 14:29
Re: #206
The total volume of seawater is like 500 trillion times the water in a 50-meter pool!!

Background and Key Points

The 2017 study, published in Environmental Science & Technology Letters by University of Alberta researchers, used acesulfame potassium (ACE) as a tracer. ACE is an artificial sweetener common in North American processed foods and drinks; the body doesn’t metabolize it, so it passes into urine unchanged and survives pool chlorination, making it a reliable marker for how much urine is diluted into a given volume of water — unlike most biological markers, which break down. The thread’s headline number, 571 times the concentration found in the tap water source (6–15 ng/L), describes contamination relative to the pool’s own fill water, not an absolute liter count, though the original Japanese framing (“how many liters of pee”) implied the latter.

The split in the thread wasn’t really about the science — almost nobody questioned the method. It was about behavior: several posters treated peeing in the pool as unremarkable, even routine, while others pushed back hard, insisting that can’t be normal and hoping the confessors were a minority. A side debate also broke out over whether the ocean is “safer” by dilution, versus the pool being a smaller, recirculated body.

What the thread leaves under-explained is the eye-irritation claim in >>32/>>62: red eyes after swimming aren’t caused by chlorine itself but by chloramines, formed when chlorine reacts with nitrogen compounds in urine and sweat — a detail the posters affirmed as trivia without explaining the mechanism. Also unaddressed: Japan’s own washing-before-bathing etiquette, cited sarcastically in the thread, exists specifically to reduce this same contamination in shared soaking water.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Study] How Many Liters of Urine Are Mixed Into a Pool? Measured Using Artificial Sweeteners — Canadian Team’s 2017 Study“.

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