Doubts Over Kubo-Doan Coexistence: 5ch Says ‘No Wonder the Middle’s a Traffic Jam’

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The story

In the Kirin Cup 2026 final against New Zealand on the 5th, Japan switched formations from a 3-4-2-1 to a 4-2-3-1, fielding Ritsu Doan and Takefusa Kubo together. Since both are left-footed players who specialize in taking on defenders, a footballchannel article pointed out that their overlapping styles clog up the center, and the discussion spread on 5ch as well. In the thread, opinions ranged from formation arguments like “Junya Ito should be the focal point” and “Kubo suits the attacking midfield role, but Ayase Ueda already occupies it” to evaluations of the two players’ abilities themselves.

Japan’s national team took on New Zealand in the Kirin Cup Soccer 2026 final on the 5th using a 4-2-3-1 rather than their usual 3-4-2-1, and there were several points worth noting. One of them was the coexistence of Ritsu Doan and Takefusa Kubo. Both possess real skill, but when asked whether this will become a major weapon going forward, a question mark remains.

The Doan-Kubo combination is…

Doan and Kubo have long supported Moriyasu’s Japan side, showing combination play on the pitch many times.

Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:42
Kind of like Messi and Dybala?
8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:46
Should've just gone with Doan at attacking mid and Ito on the right like normal.
Kubo's shaky even as a sub right now.
9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
While those two are fiddling around together, Ito just goes forward alone and creates chances.
Night and day difference in efficiency.
10AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:47
They should just put Kubo up front.
Don't let him drop deep — pin him out wide as a target for keeper Suzuki's long kicks and everything's solved.
14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
Re: #10
He fumbles the trap on Ito's switch of play.
He can only handle short passes right to his feet.
21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
Re: #10
He's not worth just parking up front.
Only about 5 players in the world are allowed to play that way.
Right now Kubo wouldn't crack the top 500, let alone the top 50…
11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:49
True.
Kubo is a disaster on the left.
Kubo's an attacking midfielder.
But that spot belongs to the immovable striker Ayase Ueda.
Moriyasu knows this too, which is why he's started experimenting with a four-back, two-striker setup.
13AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
Both Kubo and Doan are 'sponsor picks' who can't be dropped from the starting lineup,
so they're being forced in together.
15AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:50
Well, these two did do well in the Netherlands match.
16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:52
For the Asian Cup, alternating between an A-team and a B-team would be fine.
I want them to build a squad with real depth.
17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:53
People have been pointing this out for a while.
Doan and Kubo are both 'fiddly dribbler' types — they look like a good fit at a glance, but most of the time they just dribble around each other in a tight space and nothing comes of it.
It doesn't suit the current squad's traits or Moriyasu's team.
That's a waste of time.
19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
This has been said for a while now.
They just play way too close together.
20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:55
The attacking midfielder role itself isn't even needed anymore.
In four years neither of them will be around.
22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:56
Doan could never pull off a play like this
29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:00
Re: #22
This one's gonna get replayed forever.
It's the play that defines Kubo.
27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:58
Honestly, wouldn't just not calling up Kubo solve this?
28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 21:59
Kubo and Doan just fiddle around without ever breaking through vertically — they just clog things up.
Junya Ito can carry the ball forward alone with ease, so the right side comes alive.
30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
The thing is, Kubo can't even drive forward and he's way too short on end product.
31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:01
Left-footed Kubo out on the right wing,
right-footed Daizen (Maeda) out on the left wing —
no wonder the middle's a complete traffic jam.
32AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:02
With a back four, it all comes down to how well the fullbacks link up with these two.
63AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:32
Re: #32
You don't need both of them then lol
Honestly, you don't need either one.
36AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:07
Just use one of them.
What's with this whole 'coexistence' thing?
73AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:43
Re: #36
If they overlap, why not just split them between first half and second half?
37AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:08
Japan's stronger right now just pumping crosses into the box.
Teams have scouted Kubo and Doan —
they're being defended by cutting off the middle and just letting them cross with the right foot.
The buildup dying on the right is hilarious lol
Last time the left died too, with Maeda, lol
41AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:11
Re: #37
And Ueda, who those crosses go to, can win aerial duels even against tough foreign center-backs.
40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:10
Using Ito from the first half doesn't work as well though.
It's not that simple.
66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:35
Re: #40
Huh? Do you know how many results he's delivered as a starter?
42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:12
I wish Kubo would stop doing those little fiddly steps that just give the opposing defense time to reorganize.
52AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:19
Re: #42
Why doesn't anyone — teammates or coaches, at Sociedad or the national team — point that out to him?
Still baffles me.
62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:32
Someone like Yamal is fast, great at making runs in behind, and when a chance opens up he'll instantly flick a pass with the outside of his foot — he's even added new dribbling touch patterns this year and keeps evolving. Meanwhile Kubo's just been doing the same fiddly moves for years. You really feel the gap in talent.
76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 22:45
Re: #62
Kubo only has one move, relying purely on a burst of speed.
His bag of tricks hasn't grown at all as he's gotten older.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

The 4-2-3-1 Japan used in the Kirin Cup 2026 final against New Zealand has only one attacking-midfield slot, making how to fit in both Takefusa Kubo and Ritsu Doan a key point of attention. The two have played together for Moriyasu’s Japan since their Tokyo Olympics generation, but since both are left-footed players who specialize in cutting inside, the original article argued that placing them on the same side or in the same attacking-mid role tends to cancel out their strengths. The thread was split over the direction of the fix: whether to give up on the pairing altogether and build around Junya Ito, or whether adjusting positioning and sides could let both play together. It’s worth noting this is only a discussion about the formation for this one match, not a suggestion that the two will be dropped from the national team entirely — a point that’s easy to misread.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] Is it difficult for Japan’s national team to have Takefusa Kubo and Ritsu Doan coexist? “Improvisation” alone can’t break defenses down — the limits of the left-footed duo“.

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