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Following the broadcast of the anime “Mushoku Tensei III,” threads buzzed with questions about the royal family’s murderous power struggles, why Roxy didn’t join this expedition, and whether portraying the Demon Continent’s language as an untranslated mystery tongue was the right call.
History buffs brought up Japan’s ancient Jinshin War for comparison, while others traced the lineage of “characters desperate to return to their original world” across isekai reincarnation and transportation stories — altogether a lively deep-dive into the show’s worldbuilding.
What people said
Something precious, found after standing back up.
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Why doesn't Ghislaine ever spill out (of her outfit)?
Let's discuss!
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"Guardian Ripuru" (fan art caption/pun)
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This is amazing! What an invention!
Apparently there are quite a few spells used in similar situations
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Last week's live ABEMA special
[Commemorating the start of "Mushoku Tensei III's" new arc —
Onward to the Aerial Fortress Chaos Breaker!]
Free archive streaming until tomorrow, Sun 8/23, 21:00!
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In reality, even when rivals clash, it rarely escalates all the way to murder.
Is this just some odd assumption on the author's part?
Rivalry instantly turns into a killing spree.
Probably only Ariel is actually at risk of being killed — the other rival candidates likely won't go that far (probably just lifelong house arrest).
The Ottoman Empire seriously did stuff like that, and so did that thing from Hunter x Hunter.
Even in ancient Japan, the princes of Emperor Tenmu's line ended up wiping each other out, and after losing the Jinshin War, succession reverted back to the previously sidelined line of Emperor Tenji.
Royals and nobles killing each other really is just history as usual.
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Night-Eye Hawk
In the novel and manga it's "Crow"
I mean, crows can obviously see at night too, right? lol
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She speaks the demon language and is used to traveling —
she'd be the most reliable one to bring.
Because demons aren't allowed into the teleportation magic circle.
Re: #227
The teleport route goes through Chaos Breaker
No demons allowed
To reach the Demon Continent you have to use the teleportation magic circle in kindly old Perugius's aerial fortress (that's the underground-looking scene right before arriving at the continent), but Perugius — who absolutely refuses to tolerate demons — won't let Roxy into the fortress, so she can't come along.
I've got a feeling maybe time flows differently between his original world and this one, and only growth/aging follows the original world's timeline.
> She knew about Ariel, right?
Now that you mention it, yeah, that's true too…
Well, who knows…
It's possible…
Re: #277
Yeah, true, that's not it!
Hard to believe this is even the same series.
This guy's living in a completely different world from everyone else.
@mushokutensei_A
"#MushokuTenseiIII"
Appearing in Episode 9, "Wailing"!!
Yuruzu the Atoner, one of Perugius's Twelve Familiars.
Voiced by #IkumiHasegawa.
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↑ That's Übel from Frieren
and Kiriko from Iron Wok Jan
Wasn't Nokopara's dialogue entirely in the demon tongue?
Atofe was speaking demon language in the PV too.
Kind of wish that once Rudeus switches over, Atofe would just talk normally, sounding like Japanese to us.
Zanoba and the others can stay in human language at that point, lol.
That's what happened when he reunited with Nanahoshi wearing the white mask —
only Sylphy got switched to human language.
She's actually speaking demon language the whole time normally.
Setting aside whether the multilingual staging was even necessary, Nokopara's voice actor's performance was really great.
Whenever there's a character present who can't understand the language, it's mystery language plus subtitles.
But like when Roxy went back home and there was nobody around who didn't understand it, they just do it in plain Japanese.
Shows like this are an embarrassment to the Japanese anime industry.
Yeah, exactly.
They should be putting it on Nanahoshi or Eris instead…
Huh, right.
Now that I look closely, Lady Kishirika's outfit is pretty racy too.
That's exactly why they play up Kishirika as such an over-the-top gag character.
"The Rising of the Shield Hero" —
I recall it was something like, defeat the enemies, save the world, and you get to go home.
Though how it actually ends is a mystery to me.
Nanahoshi's case is a "transportation," not a reincarnation.
Among transportation stories, plenty of series have characters desperately trying to get home — like "Arifureta," "Instant Death Cheat," "Reject Class," etc.
"Woltania War Chronicle"
It's a transportation story.
The protagonist does wail "I can't go back! I can't go back!"
Though he's just a regular DK (high school boy).
Maybe the other races have their own gods too, and the Man-God lost to them, so now he's manipulating Rudeus through prophecy as revenge for something from the past.
I guess it was really Konosuba and Tensura that changed that.
Even "Shambala wo Yuku Mono" had a shocking ending for its time.
There's Orsted the Dragon God, y'know!
Lord Perugius said the demon god Laplace is coming back — is that even for real?!
Back in season 1, after getting wrecked by Orsted, when he explained the situation to Ruijerd, Ruijerd said something like "The Ancient Six Gods, huh. Hard to believe right away, but I doubt you're lying," so the Ancient Six Gods probably did exist.
Re: #517
In Tensura too, Rimuru's a reincarnator so he doesn't really want to go back (since he knows he's dead, going back isn't even an option), but the transported/summoned girl from Falmuth did want to go home.
Another transported character mentioned that the curse-word kept her from acting freely enough to even explore ways of getting back.
Tensura isn't an "isekai transportation," it's an "isekai reincarnation via death," so going back to the original world wouldn't really mean much anyway —
that said, the ending is technically a "return home" ending, isn't it.
Though it might just be a pseudo return home.
Konosuba's the same — he's dead too, so going back wouldn't mean much.
Finally feels like the story's moving forward.
He's not bringing his master along, even though it's her hometown?
The horse doesn't remember him.
That was found awfully easily.
Come on, Nokopara's shown up plenty of times already~
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Background and Key Points
Mushoku Tensei’s premise — a man reincarnated as Rudeus into a fantasy world after dying in disgrace — belongs to a specific Japanese genre split the thread itself invokes: “tensei” (reincarnation, usually via death, as in this show and Tensura/Konosuba) versus “isekai” transportation (summoned or dropped in alive, as with Nanahoshi here, or in Shield Hero and Zero no Tsukaima). That distinction matters because it determines whether “going home” is even a coherent goal — the dead can’t really return, which is why posters note Rimuru and Kazuma’s homesickness is moot while Nanahoshi’s is not. The royal-succession violence discussion leans on a real reference: the Jinshin War of 672 CE, in which Prince Ōama defeated his nephew Ōtomo for the throne after Emperor Tenji’s death, with succession later reverting to Tenji’s line — a genuine precedent for the lethal infighting the show depicts, not just authorial exaggeration.
The thread’s actual disagreement is narrower than “is royal murder realistic” — it’s about the demon-language staging: whether rendering Demon Continent speech as untranslated gibberish is a defensible device (used only when a non-speaker is on screen) or just inconsistent, since scenes without an outsider present switch back to plain Japanese for viewer convenience, as posters point out with the Roxy homecoming example.
What outside readers will likely miss: this is season three of an adaptation with a large, already-published web novel/light novel backlog, so plot mechanics like the anti-demon teleportation circle or Perugius’s exclusionary fortress aren’t improvised fan theories — they’re established worldbuilding the Japanese audience already treats as canon, not open questions.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Anime board) thread 「[NO SPOILERS] Mushoku Tensei ~Jobless Reincarnation~ 137」.
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