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In a thread on 5ch’s Nova (VIP) board, a poster complained that their Teflon frying pan’s coating kept peeling and burning, only to be met with a wave of replies suggesting the real problem was how they were using it. The flashpoint was overheating from cranking an induction (IH) stove to high heat, plus scrubbing the pan hard with detergent during cleanup. The original poster kept insisting that “everything would be solved if Teflon were made more durable,” but was met with counterarguments that cast-iron pans last for years as long as you avoid letting them boil dry, and that commercial-grade Teflon coatings hold up fine — leaving the two sides talking past each other to the end.
What people said
It overheats because you're running the IH stove at setting 5 or higher
I'm saying make Teflon more durable — hurry up with the technical breakthrough already
I'd think cast iron would be perfect for that (type of person), though
Just stick to pots already
Teflon's garbage, it breaks right away. I want them to fix it
If it survives being blasted on high heat, great
As long as you don't let it boil dry, it'll last years
The handle gets hot, though
Teflon should just adapt to bad handling
If you're bad at cooking and keep wrecking your Teflon pan right away, why keep rebuying something that clearly can't take it?
With cast iron, detergent strips the seasoning so it never builds up, so I tossed it
Turns out the cause wasn't just one person
Making Teflon more durable would solve every problem
Then just keep a cast-iron pan in your own room
Why keep buying Teflon over and over? You're the one who keeps buying it and getting mad, that's all
Complaining about Teflon and asking the maker to improve it actually solves the problem way better
Do it like Apple does — I don't care how expensive it gets, just do it
If you had infinite money, replacing it wouldn't be a problem, right?
I want to use it for a long time. I like this one — I just want them to make it more durable
That's not the maker's problem, it's yours — you're using it in a way that wrecks it within months
If normal use made it unusable within months, nobody would buy it and Teflon would've vanished from the market 20 years ago
I'm saying it's a defective product if it breaks that fast just from blasting it on IH high heat and washing it like in the detergent commercials every day until every last bit of oil is gone
It's absurd that it breaks just from using it the way TV commercials show
Don't treat something that isn't a TV like it's a TV
You're using it wrong
I'm doing it exactly like I saw on TV
But on TV they're not using it every single day
It's absurd that using it the way TV shows breaks it. TV should be spreading the correct way to handle it — since it doesn't, people end up doing it wrong and breaking it
Was it a gorilla doing the washing on TV?
It's total garbage if a frying pan can't even last 5 years
I don't have time to waste doing something like that every single day
Did you mess up your own sockpuppet reply? (self-reply slip)
That's right! The manufacturer's an accomplice too
Background and Key Points of the Debate
Teflon (fluororesin) coatings tend to degrade when exposed to high heat above roughly 260°C, which is why most manufacturers’ manuals explicitly warn to use “medium heat or lower” and to strictly avoid letting the pan boil dry. Because induction (IH) stoves can heat the bottom of a pan directly once you crank up the power setting, continuing to use “high heat” out of gas-stove habit tends to accelerate coating breakdown. The thread split over whether to view this wear as a “product defect” or as “user error in heat settings and care,” and the original poster and those pushing back never found common ground. It’s also worth noting, as a separate caveat from Teflon, that while cast-iron pans last a long time if you maintain their oil seasoning, scrubbing that seasoning off with detergent actually makes them more prone to rust.
※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nova/VIP) thread “The Garbage Company Selling Teflon Pans Should Explode.”
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