A thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G board claiming that “men who drive the Toyota Sienta are being mocked as losers” sparked a mixed reaction. The Sienta, a compact minivan with sliding doors, is especially popular with families raising kids, and many posters pushed back, arguing that “only people with families buy it, so if anything that makes them winners.” Others weighed in on the car’s design or reminisced about non-sliding-door models like the Cube and bB that have since disappeared from the market, turning the thread into a mix of genuine car talk and debate over whether the “loser man” label even makes sense.
What people said
1AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:35
lol (lit. "grass" — 5ch shorthand for laughing)
3AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
I drive my wife's Sienta sometimes…
4AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:36
Test drove one but the seats felt made for women and didn't fit me, so I passed.
7AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:38
It's spacious yet compact, so it's super practical.
People who trash-talk it probably just think caring about functionality is uncool.
10AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:39
What kind of car actually screams "loser man," then?
12AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:40
I'm not into cars, so I've never once looked at someone's ride and thought that. Drive whatever you want, who cares.
15AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
I mean, a single guy driving a Sienta is definitely kind of pathetic though.
16AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
The back end of the Sienta really is kind of lame.
17AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:42
Pretty much only people with families drive it, so if anything that puts you on the winning side, no?
23AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:43
It acts like a 7-seater, but there's no way 7 people actually fit in that thing.
26AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
You see Sientas everywhere around town — clearly it's super popular.
27AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
It's just a family car.
Driving something you specifically lowered the ride height on is way more embarrassing.
28AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:45
Meanwhile, the number of scrawny middle-aged guys climbing out of a Harrier (Toyota's flagship SUV), though.
30AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:46
With a wife and one or two kids, it's honestly pretty much a must-have.
31AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:46
It's a mystery how the Sienta became a massively popular car while the Cube just vanished.
34AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:48
Re: #31
The Cube's seats were actually super comfortable.
But a family car without sliding doors just didn't have a reason to exist anymore.
50AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:54
Re: #31
The bB and the Ractis both sold like crazy too, and they're gone now as well.
Only sliding-door cars survive these days.
92AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:21
Re: #31
Man, that takes me back.
I used to drive a Cube — wish they'd bring it back with modern internals.
36AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:49
I've got two kids and the Sienta is honestly a godsend.
My wife finds it easy to drive too.
43AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
Re: #36
At the end of the day it gets treated as the second car, so that's probably why the thread title turns into "if a guy's driving it…"
38AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
Couldn't they make the Sienta's body look a bit cooler, though?
40AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
Parked next to an Alphard/Vellfire (Toyota's luxury minivans), the Sienta does look a bit shabby, gotta admit.
41AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:50
Still way more likable than some family acting all high and mighty in their Alphard/Vellfire.
42AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
Getting screamed at over just what car you drive… what a suffocating world we live in.
44AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:51
Funny how both types seem to always have slow, sluggish drivers behind the wheel.
45AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:52
It's all Alphards and Voxys around here lately — makes me think there are a lot of rich people about.
51AnonymousSep 22, 2026 08:54
The Sienta's basically the family's second car, right?
No idea why, but it's crazy popular with women.
Honda was about the only one who could rip off the idea — couldn't Nissan have made something like it?
62AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:00
Re: #58
The Sienta itself is a ripoff of the Renault Kangoo, so there's no real need for Nissan to bother making one.
80AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:12
Re: #58
They already had the Cube3 to begin with.
69AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:04
That's a car for college students.
76AnonymousSep 22, 2026 09:08
Re: #69
How do you figure?
Most people driving it have kids with them.
What do you even look at on a daily basis?
Background and Key Points
The Sienta is a compact, sliding-door minivan from Toyota that has built strong demand among families with children thanks to its spacious back seats and easy handling. Rival models in the same class that lacked sliding doors — like the Cube, the bB, and the Ractis — have all disappeared from the lineup over the years, leaving sliding-door vans as the only survivors in this segment. The disagreement in the thread wasn’t really about the car itself, but about whether the premise “Sienta = a loser man’s car” holds up at all — commenters repeatedly pointed out that if the buyers are mostly people with families, the whole joke aimed at single men falls apart. At the same time, the car’s strong popularity among women drivers and comparisons with rivals like the Honda Freed and the Renault Kangoo also came up, making this less a pure flame war and more a discussion grounded in real-world usability.
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