Opinions split on the Hello! Project subforum of 5ch over the practice of having OGs (graduated members) appear as special guests at current groups’ live shows. Some voiced sympathy for the OG members’ fans when these appearances are sprung as a secret — “Feel bad for the OG’s fans,” “Secret guests kill the vibe” — while others pushed back with “Only a tiny minority actually cares about that.” Posters also cited past examples, like Sato Masaki and Takeuchi Akari appearing as guests at regional revitalization concerts in Bizen and Kaga.
Guess there's all kinds of takes on this.
Secret guest appearances should really stop — it's rough on that OG's fans.
>>9
Only a tiny minority actually says that.
Only a tiny minority actually says that.
Wonder if it'll be Karin-chan or Manakan (Tsugunaga Mana) next — that'd get the crowd hyped.
>>11
That would absolutely bring the house down.
That would absolutely bring the house down.
>>10
Everyone's just holding it in.
Everyone's just holding it in.
>>13
Nah, only a tiny handful of people are making these kinds of statements about their feelings — they should realize they're the ones who've gotten way too invested and lost perspective.
Treating "attend every show" as some kind of baseline expectation is messed up.
Nah, only a tiny handful of people are making these kinds of statements about their feelings — they should realize they're the ones who've gotten way too invested and lost perspective.
Treating "attend every show" as some kind of baseline expectation is messed up.
>>91
For OGs there just aren't many events to begin with,
so it ends up feeling like you're expected to attend all of them.
For OGs there just aren't many events to begin with,
so it ends up feeling like you're expected to attend all of them.
If you're going, just say you're going.
If you're appearing, just say you're appearing.
If you're appearing, just say you're appearing.
>>16
Then it wouldn't be a secret guest anymore, would it.
Then it wouldn't be a secret guest anymore, would it.
>>16
Why would they need to cater to you specifically?
Why would they need to cater to you specifically?
They should just bring Takeuchi, Sasaki, and Jokoryo along on ANGERME's bus tour.
>>17
Ticket sales are already solid, so there's no real point in bringing them in.
Ticket sales are already solid, so there's no real point in bringing them in.
>>20
They didn't need to make it a secret in the first place.
They didn't need to make it a secret in the first place.
>>27
Doing that would defeat the whole purpose
— the OG would just be tagging along lol
Doing that would defeat the whole purpose
— the OG would just be tagging along lol
"Okayama Prefecture Bizen City × OCHA NORMA Regional Revitalization Concert: Naruchika 2023 OCHA NORMA in Bizen" Special Guest Announcement
https://helloproject.com/news/16465/
Sato Masaki, Miyamoto Karin, and Ogata Risa have been confirmed as special guests.
https://helloproject.com/news/16465/
Sato Masaki, Miyamoto Karin, and Ogata Risa have been confirmed as special guests.
>>32
Bet this left OCHA NORMA fans with really mixed feelings.
Bet this left OCHA NORMA fans with really mixed feelings.
>>32 >>35 Was there an actual collab with the current members?
"Ishikawa Prefecture Kaga City × OCHA NORMA Regional Revitalization Concert: Naruchika 2025 OCHA NORMA in Kaga" General Ticket Sales and Special Guest Announcement
https://helloproject.com/news/18559/
> Also, Takeuchi Akari and Ishida Ayumi have been confirmed as special guests.
https://helloproject.com/news/18559/
> Also, Takeuchi Akari and Ishida Ayumi have been confirmed as special guests.
You wouldn't expect a guest to show up when it's already sold out, right?
>>41
What we learned this time: even if it's sold out, a guest can still show up and sing a Satoyama song (OCHA NORMA's local/nature-themed songs); if it's NOT sold out, it gets announced beforehand.
What we learned this time: even if it's sold out, a guest can still show up and sing a Satoyama song (OCHA NORMA's local/nature-themed songs); if it's NOT sold out, it gets announced beforehand.
I wonder which opinion was actually more common yesterday.
>>43
Probably more people were happy about it.
Probably more people were happy about it.
But when they asked "anyone seeing Aarii (Takeuchi Akari's nickname) for the first time?" only about 10 people raised their hands.
>>65
I'm a new fan but didn't raise my hand —
newcomers aren't used to it, so it's hard to put your hand up.
I'm a new fan but didn't raise my hand —
newcomers aren't used to it, so it's hard to put your hand up.
>>65
Seriously?
I figured it'd be like 20-30%.
Seriously?
I figured it'd be like 20-30%.
Uemura TO Tsubo's statement of feelings
Every OG fan I know hates these surprise OG appearances.
Miyamoto even wrote an apology blog post over it.
Miyamoto even wrote an apology blog post over it.
Wasn't that the secret guest thing at UniDol?
Who even cares about that lol
Who even cares about that lol
>>98
They went out of their way to tease it too.
They went out of their way to tease it too.
Might have fewer restrooms than Momokuri Karuizawa (Momoiro Clover Z's Christmas event).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C83CX2KV0AEMVVP.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C83CX2KV0AEMVVP.jpg
Secret guests kill the vibe way more than people realize
— some fans actually quit over it.
— some fans actually quit over it.
>>118
That's straight-up underground-idol behavior lol
That's straight-up underground-idol behavior lol
>>118
Only with underground idols can you actually complete every single event.
Only with underground idols can you actually complete every single event.
They're entertainers — of course there's the occasional work surprise.
Honestly, after so long without breaking through, the whole fandom's mentality has sunk to underground-idol level.
Honestly, after so long without breaking through, the whole fandom's mentality has sunk to underground-idol level.
>>121
The old-guard fans' mentality is way too "underground idol."
Though to be fair, some groups really do end up sliding into that underground tier.
The old-guard fans' mentality is way too "underground idol."
Though to be fair, some groups really do end up sliding into that underground tier.
>>93
The logic in the first half and the second half doesn't connect.
Even with fewer events, that doesn't mean "attend everything" becomes some kind of default expectation.
If anything, going around posting these "statement of feelings" things is more likely to get you disliked normally
— you never know where it might reach the person involved.
If you don't have the perspective or the mental bandwidth to think about that, you're going to end up disliked all over the place.
The logic in the first half and the second half doesn't connect.
Even with fewer events, that doesn't mean "attend everything" becomes some kind of default expectation.
If anything, going around posting these "statement of feelings" things is more likely to get you disliked normally
— you never know where it might reach the person involved.
If you don't have the perspective or the mental bandwidth to think about that, you're going to end up disliked all over the place.
>>134
The point is that because there are so few events, it ends up amounting to attending all of them anyway.
It'd be better if it did reach her —
if she's fine just showing up as a secret guest like that, she clearly doesn't understand how the fans feel.
The point is that because there are so few events, it ends up amounting to attending all of them anyway.
It'd be better if it did reach her —
if she's fine just showing up as a secret guest like that, she clearly doesn't understand how the fans feel.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Opinions on OGs Making Guest Appearances at Current Groups’ Live Shows.”
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