Nozomi Reserved Seats to Jump ¥700 in 2027 — 5ch: ‘It’s to Filter the Clientele’

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On the 16th, JR Central and JR West announced that they will raise reserved-seat limited express fares for the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen’s “Nozomi” and “Mizuho” services starting July 1, 2027. The Tokyo–Shin-Osaka fare will rise ¥700 to ¥15,420, and the Tokyo–Nagoya fare will rise ¥580 to ¥11,880. Unreserved-seat fares and “Hikari”/”Kodama” fares remain unchanged. Aside from consumption-tax adjustments, this is the first fare hike since Nozomi’s 1992 debut, and starting that December, Green Car (first-class) fares will also rise sharply. On 5ch, opinions split over the congestion balance between Nozomi and Hikari, and over the real motive behind the Green Car fare hike.

On the 16th, JR Central and JR West announced that they will raise the reserved-seat limited express fares for the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen’s “Nozomi” and “Mizuho” services starting July 1, 2027. The standard-car reserved-seat fare for Tokyo–Shin-Osaka will rise by ¥700 to ¥15,420. The companies say this reflects service improvements and rising costs amid inflation.

According to JR Central, aside from consumption-tax adjustments, this marks the first fare hike for Nozomi on the Tokaido Shinkansen since its 1992 debut. The Tokyo–Nagoya fare will rise by ¥580 to ¥11,880. Unreserved-seat fares will stay as they are. Reserved and unreserved fares for “Kodama,” “Hikari,” and other services will not be revised.

Green Car fares will also go up starting in December 2027, rising ¥2,510 for Tokyo–Nagoya and ¥3,000 for Tokyo–Shin-Osaka. The Green Car fare increase applies across all train types, whether Nozomi, Hikari, or otherwise.

Source: 47news.jp / Original article here

What people said

4AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:28
They jack up the price AND shrink the seats too, I bet.
14AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:31
Re: #4
The 2-seat row becomes 3 seats, and the 3-seat row gets bumped up to a whopping 5!
5AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:28
Does the food taste good when you're making bank off rails laid with taxpayers' money?
9AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:29
Re: #1
I rode the Shinkansen recently, and in a situation like this, you'd normally just swap seats, right?

Some oblivious idiot who couldn't take a hint ruined what was supposed to be a fun trip.

★me ◆stranger | | ●wife

Asked ★: "Would you mind swapping seats with my wife?"
Asked ◆: "Would you mind swapping seats with my wife?"
Asked ●: "Would you mind swapping seats with me?"

Every single one said "no thanks." Unbelievable.
24AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:36
Re: #9
The middle seat in a row of 3 is the worst spot there is — people normally leave it open.
97AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:36
Re: #9
Swapping ◆ with the wife would've worked, or swapping ◆ with ●.
23AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:35
I only ever ride the Green Car, and this price hike is way too much.
67AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:05
Re: #23
It's probably to weed out the people who don't belong in the Green Car.
70AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:08
Re: #23
What about Supreme Class (JR's ultra-premium car)?
25AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:36
Just buy an unreserved ticket, head into the reserved car, and say standing is too hard because you're sick — people will usually give up their seat. If you've got kids, say the kid wants to sit and they'll almost always fold too.
111AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:41
Raise the fare all you like, just please get rid of people like Re: #25 entirely.
42AnonymousOct 16, 2026 19:44
Jack the price up this much and people will just fly instead.
76AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:23
Re: #42

Doing the same thing airlines do, I guess. Not sure the Shinkansen really needs that.

https://asset.watch.impress.co.jp/img/trw/docs/2148/818/05_l.jpg
Dedicated lounges for Supreme Class and Green Car passengers are being rolled out one by one at Nozomi stations.
64AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:02
When's that 1-hour Tokyo–Osaka maglev actually going to happen?
68AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:07
Re: #64
The shield tunnel boring machine digging from Shinagawa has only cleared about 700 meters of a stretch just under 10km — after 5 years. And right now it's stopped dead because a gear in the shield machine broke.
71AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:09
Re: #64
Still not open as of the year 2199 (a joking way of saying "never").
75AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:23
Making every seat reserved AND hiking the reserved fare on top of it is the absolute worst.
79AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:26
Re: #75
It still sells out anyway, so raising the price is the right call.
195AnonymousOct 16, 2026 22:33
Re: #75
Doesn't matter to me either way — with an unreserved ticket I'll just hang around the decks and aisles filming video like always. If you hate the idea of standing in the aisles once every seat is reserved, just buy a Green Car ticket (aisle access included) and ride Green instead.
84AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:28
The Green Car fare is going up about 60%. Has JR Central lost its mind?
87AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:31
Re: #84
"Don't like it? Ride standard class!" — JR Central, probably.
156AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:06
Re: #84
Some politician probably just said, "Hey, the Green Car's packed!" That's probably all it took.
93AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:34
How does the Shinkansen stack up against trains overseas? I feel like it's pretty overpriced myself.
100AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:37
Re: #93
Paris–London is only about as far as Tokyo–Nagoya, but buying full price on the day costs €330 (over ¥50,000).
127AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:51
Re: #93
Depends on the country. The UK and Switzerland are expensive, while Eastern Europe and Russia are cheap. People used to say Germany was cheap too, but with the weak yen it's basically a wash now when you compare.
189AnonymousOct 16, 2026 22:25
Re: #93
Compared to the Taiwan High Speed Rail, it's a total rip-off — I'd guess roughly double the price. Though to be fair, Taiwan HSR sells a 3-day unlimited-ride pass for foreign tourists for around ¥10,000.
117AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:46
The Green Car really isn't worth the price difference, honestly.
119AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:47
Re: #117
Just make do with the thick paper oshibori (hot hand towel) and feel fancy, lol 😅
122AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:49
Re: #117
Nobody picks the Green Car for ride comfort. You ride it for the peace of mind that no sketchy people will be sitting next to you.
124AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:49
Re: #117
The Green Car is really about the clientele, isn't it.
142AnonymousOct 16, 2026 20:59
They sell off transit infrastructure built with tax money to private companies, so now they can do whatever they want — scrapping unprofitable lines, chasing profit so hard they pivot into real estate ventures like Takanawa Gateway instead of focusing on transportation. And fix the leaking roof under the elevated tracks at Kinshicho Station already, you useless idiots!
144AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:00
Re: #142
They already paid back the tax portion after depreciation. Remember JR Central took on ¥5.5 trillion in debt back in 1988?
145AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:00
Re: #142
That's got nothing to do with JR Central at all.
147AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:01
Re: #142
Have you forgotten they were saddled with a massive debt for track-laying costs at privatization?
146AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:01
Re: #124
Having money doesn't automatically mean good manners, but I guess raising the price filters out at least some people.
148AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:01
Re: #146
Clientele quality is directly proportional to price. Seriously.
151AnonymousOct 16, 2026 21:03
Re: #146
No, if people have money, the clientele does get better.
187AnonymousOct 16, 2026 22:22
If they only raise Nozomi fares, Hikari's going to get packed — please don't.
188AnonymousOct 16, 2026 22:24
Re: #187
Yeah, I bet it'll get crowded. Shame, since Hikari being empty is exactly what makes it comfortable.
190AnonymousOct 16, 2026 22:27
Re: #187
Nozomi's always packed so I try to ride Hikari whenever I can. Boarding from Tokyo, the ones stopping at Shizuoka/Hamamatsu empty out past Hamamatsu, and the ones stopping at Odawara or Toyohashi are usually pretty empty overall.

Background and Key Points of This Debate

The fare hike applies only to reserved seats on “Nozomi” and “Mizuho” — reserved-seat fares on “Hikari”/”Kodama” and unreserved fares on all trains stay the same. Since Nozomi began running in 1992, there had never been a fare increase apart from consumption-tax adjustments, an unusually long stretch of price stability for a rail fare. The thread split between those who see the hike as simply reflecting rising costs and inflation, and those who read the roughly 60% jump in Green Car fares as a de facto way to filter out the “wrong” kind of passenger. The effect on the congestion balance between Nozomi and Hikari, plus comparisons with overseas high-speed rail fares, also came up, though since the routes and conditions being compared differ so much, no simple “expensive vs. cheap” conclusion was reached.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “JR Central to Raise Nozomi Reserved Fares — Tokyo–Shin-Osaka Up ¥700 in 2027.”

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