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When Tsubaki Factory put tickets for their Budokan show on general sale, reports online that “even the back row sold out” became a hot topic. Since Hello! Project doesn’t officially announce attendance figures, fans have a culture of cross-referencing seat-position reports to gauge how well a show is selling, and because some past tours fell short of a sellout, this news drew a strong reaction. In the thread, opinions split between those who saw the strong sales as a sign of rising popularity and those who suspected the agency was giving it a push ahead of Tanimoto’s graduation concert planned for next spring, with the discussion also touching on attendance comparisons against other groups within the same project.
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Picked up my ticket for Tsubaki’s Budokan show now that general sale has opened. Got 2nd floor, row X.
Source: x.com / original post here
What people said
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Come to Tsubaki's Budokan show, Morning Musume otaku, Angerme otaku, Juice=Juice otaku, BEYOOOOONDS otaku, OCHA NORMA otaku, Rosy Chronicle otaku.
I'm begging you.
Juice=Juice can fill a venue even without a graduation to push sales.
Don't worry, Juice is doing K Arena [Yokohama].
Yokohama Arena is going to be fought over by Morning Musume (Nonaka's graduation), Angerme (Hashisako's graduation), Tsubaki (Tanimoto's graduation), and BEYOOOOONDS (Hirai's graduation).
Maybe it'll go to OCHA NORMA if they manage to poach some flashy new reinforcement — someone like Manaki Suda.
Of course I know Tsubaki's performances and the venue atmosphere are amazing, but still.
Might as well disband next spring.
and then move on to Yokohama Arena.
Now that BEYOOOOONDS has done Yokohama Arena, Tsubaki has to do it too.
Tanimoto's graduation next spring is the biggest chance for that.
Seriously?
Since this is the first time they've used Moala ID verification (an anti-scalping ticket check), I figured the first-round presale would sell poorly,
but I can't believe it's selling this well from the second round onward, lol.
Sales numbers aside, there's no doubt they'll deliver an amazing show, so I hope a lot of people come.
If it's bad, maybe as many as 1 in every 4 seats has been thinned out [left empty].
but I think it still only reached around row U on the east and west sides.
Maybe as a backlash from that, live-viewing screenings barely sold at all.
Yagi's graduation sold nicely, with the south side reaching row W,
and live viewing was also the best-selling in Tsubaki's history — so if some chunk of the Tokyo-area live-viewing crowd had pushed to come to the Budokan instead, it might well have sold out.
it needs to sell out, or there's a problem.
[LMAO] Angerme's Nippon Budokan show, attendance numbers undisclosed wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1782219972/
We're starved for hall concerts.
Even on a weekday, Tsubaki can fill a hall decently these days.
It didn't sell out, but for the autumn tour's Zepp Daiba show, part 1 sold around 1,800-1,900 tickets and part 2 around 2,100-2,200.
Isn't 2,200 for part 2 just impossible?
Max capacity is 2,100, and in Hello! Project where the fanbase leans heavily male, I don't think they'd pull numbers like that.
If it really sold 2,100 to 2,200, the second floor would've been full and it would've been a sellout.
I got into part 1 as standing room, but when my number, in the 1400s, was called, there were only about 100 people behind me by eye.
That's how disliked live houses [smaller club venues] are among their fans.
Hachioji and Zama have smaller max capacities than Zepp or Toyosu.
For Tsubaki, there's a brutally high wall right at the 2,000 mark.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Hello! Project doesn’t officially announce attendance figures for individual shows, so fans have a culture of cross-referencing seat displays and ticket-pickup reports to estimate how well a show sold. For this Tsubaki Factory Budokan performance too, opinions diverged on whether it was “really” full, given factors like thinned-out arena seating and whether the stage was pushed forward to accommodate the live band. Where the thread split was over whether to credit the strong sales to genuine popularity or to the agency giving things a push ahead of Tanimoto’s graduation concert planned for next spring — a “favoritism” theory came up more than once, though without solid evidence behind it. Attendance was also repeatedly compared to other groups within Hello! Project, such as Juice=Juice and BEYOOOOONDS, and the fact that shows with different seat counts and venue conditions can’t simply be compared head-to-head is a point that’s easy for outsiders to misread.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Shocking] Tsubaki Factory’s Nippon Budokan show apparently selling all the way to the back row wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.”
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