Masahiro Matsuoka: ‘I’m the type who doesn’t need stuff in my miso soup’ — his particular way of enjoying dashi

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Former TOKIO member Masahiro Matsuoka (49) talked about miso soup on the October 4 broadcast of NACK5’s “Masahiro Matsuoka’s Colorful Saitama Frontier,” confessing that he’s “the type who doesn’t need ingredients in miso soup.” Instead of solid ingredients, he revealed he likes to vary the dashi — “today it’s dried sardines,” “today it’s bonito.” The topic came up after a listener asked whether he drinks miso soup down to the last drop of broth. On 5ch, this sparked a split of opinions: some countered that “ingredients make great dashi too,” others formed a “minimalist camp” who say wakame and tofu are all you need, and still others argued for loading up on ingredients for nutrition. The discussion even expanded into a cooking-method debate over whether it’s okay to let miso soup come to a boil.

10/4 (Sun) 15:51

Former TOKIO member Masahiro Matsuoka (49) appeared on the October 4 broadcast of NACK5’s “Masahiro Matsuoka’s Colorful Saitama Frontier” (Sundays 7:00 AM), where he opened up about his particular approach to miso soup.

A listener sent in a message saying, “Do you drink your miso soup down to the last drop? Now that I’m older, I’ve stopped finishing the broth on ramen.” Matsuoka immediately replied, “Miso soup is literally called ‘soup’ (shiru), so yes, I drink it.”

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:09
Matsuoka's neck bends 90 degrees whenever he's acting in dramas
3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:11
I like the plain, meager kind with just shijimi clams and mitsuba (a mild Japanese herb)
6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:14
Green onion is just an off-flavor when it comes to miso soup dashi
7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:15
Sodium needs depend on how much you sweat
Big, buff guys doing manual labor don't get enough, while out-of-shape guys sitting in air conditioning all day get too much
8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:15
Put Chinese-style noodles in miso soup and it's basically miso ramen
9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:19
Isn't this whole 'drink it all vs. don't' thing kind of a non-issue?
11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:20
Where's our pork-miso-soup udon already?!
14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:23
I like just cracking an egg straight in and letting it boil away
Sure, it wrecks the miso flavor, but it's tasty
15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:24
No way, boiling miso soup until the flavor's gone is a step too far
31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:35
Re: #15
Chef Doi says that's perfectly fine too
It may be 'just cooking,' but cooking is cooking
63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:51
Re: #15
That holds true for light-colored misos like Shinshu miso
Bean miso barely has any alcohol-derived aroma to begin with, so boiling it is no problem
If boiling were off-limits for every type of miso, dishes like simmered offal stew or miso-nikomi udon wouldn't even work
16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:24
I like having two kinds of ingredients
wakame and tofu
fried tofu and daikon
potato and long green onion
that sort of thing

I consider pork miso soup and kenchinjiru (vegetable soup) a different category from regular miso soup
17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:25
Wakame and tofu are non-negotiable — and it's even better with some mushrooms 🍄
18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:25
The ultimate miso soup ingredients:

• potato
• shiitake mushroom
19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:26
Re: #1
If you're feeling sick from the sodium even the day after you ate it, isn't that a crazy overdose? lol
20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:27
I don't even get the point of asking 'do you drink miso soup all the way down?'
Are there really people who leave it unfinished when it's not even that much liquid?
66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:53
Re: #20
Right, I've never heard of anyone just eating the solid bits and ditching the rest.
21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:28
The broth is basically just a bonus to the simmered ingredients. That's why it's better loaded up with stuff.
22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:28
The other day I started making miso soup and had nothing to put in it, so I dissolved a ton of toasted nori into it — it turned out shockingly good
23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:30
I like pretty much anything, but onion, daikon, and potato miso soup ranks near the top for me
25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:32
I keep making cheap, low-effort miso soup: dried wakame from Hanamasa (a discount supermarket), 'Kinu Bijin' silken tofu, a generous dump of discounted Yamaki dashi granules, and a little bit of cheap private-label miso
27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:34
Just a guy who doesn't drink miso soup, passing through
28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:34
I kind of get it
Wakame and scallions are plenty for miso soup
Don't need fried tofu or regular tofu or any of that
33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:36
I bet he'd love doing an episode with Ano-chan (singer/idol Ano) as a guest, just savoring the broth together
Ano-chan's also long been in the 'don't need ingredients, broth alone is fine' camp
35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:36
So there really are people out there who leave miso soup unfinished
36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:36
My kid will actually eat vegetables if they're in soup, so I load mine up with ingredients
Sorry (for derailing a bit)
37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:37
I think the exact opposite. Miso soup is basically just salt water, bad for you, and largely unnecessary

If it's something lavish like shijimi clam miso soup or pork miso soup, then sure, I'll eat it

But a soup that's nothing but salt has no business being part of a meal. It comes standard with Japanese food, but
that's exactly why I hate the throwaway miso soup you get as a side at beef-bowl chains or set-meal diners
38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:37
Any miso soup tastes good to me
I have zero preferences
39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:38
I'm firmly in the loaded-with-ingredients camp
That alone makes it packed with nutrition
40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:39
Using leftover tempura from the night before as the filling is also delicious
41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:39
Cooking vegetables properly is such a hassle, so I just dump them straight into miso soup
stuff like carrots and daikon, the tough ones
I always forget the tofu though
Miso soup is delicious no matter what you throw in
45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:41
Re: #1
> He confessed that when it comes to miso soup, he's 'the type who doesn't need ingredients.' Instead, he likes to do the dashi — 'today it's dried sardines,' 'today it's bonito'

Wait, but ingredients ARE dashi too, right? Vegetables give off a sweet dashi of their own — by that logic you'd be trashing shijimi soup or clam soup entirely
46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:42
If miso soup doesn't need ingredients, then ramen needs them even less
I mean, a bowl of ramen with zero toppings should cost like 380 yen
And they just slap on one or two slices of meat and some junk toppings to rip you off for over 1000 yen
47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:43
I think of miso soup as something you eat the ingredients of
I barely drink the broth itself
It's not that I'm watching my sodium or anything like that
49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 16:45
It wasn't like this before, but sometimes I get this intense craving for miso soup out of nowhere
Even with the same ingredients, there's something different about it compared to a soy-sauce-based clear soup — I wonder why that is

Background and Talking Points

Masahiro Matsuoka has continued doing radio work as a former TOKIO member since the group’s dissolution, and “Colorful Saitama Frontier” is a NACK5 (Saitama) program. His “don’t need ingredients” comment about miso soup stems from a culinary focus on varying the dashi itself — switching between dried sardines, bonito, and so on. What split the thread wasn’t just a matter of taste, but extended into a cooking-science question: whether it’s okay to let miso soup actually boil. Lighter misos like Shinshu miso are said to lose their alcohol-derived aroma easily when heated, while bean misos (such as Hatcho miso) are said to hold up better to heat — a distinction by miso type that’s surprisingly little known. How people interpreted the “do you drink it all” question itself also revealed differing attitudes toward sodium intake and health awareness tied to age, suggesting that even with the same bowl of miso soup, preferences diverge widely by generation and lifestyle.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Hayabusa+) thread “Masahiro Matsuoka: miso soup is for “people who don’t need ingredients” — his particular way of making “the ultimate miso soup,” ‘I like that kind of miso soup’.”

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