ANGERME Fans Vow Boycott Until Agency Stops Overpushing Juice=Juice — 5ch: “I’m Not Showing Up to Shows”

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The story

On a 5ch thread (Japan’s largest anonymous message board, the successor to 2channel) where Hello! Project fans gather, a poster claiming to be an ANGERME fan declared a boycott of the group’s management agency, vowing not to attend any more “genba”* (fan slang for live shows/events) until the company stops its “gori-oshi”* — aggressively over-promoting — of labelmates Juice=Juice. The complaint stems from a perceived imbalance: Juice=Juice has reportedly been favored lately with TV appearances and larger Christmas-event venues, while ANGERME’s own tour has been playing to visibly empty seats. The thread quickly filled with pushback, with several posters pointing out that ANGERME itself went through its own heavily-promoted era in the past — turning the discussion into a broader argument over which Hello! Project group actually gets the star treatment.

What people said

1Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:03:49.95
41 Anonymous 2026/09/27 (Sun) 12:58:36.11 0
From an ANGERME wota* (idol-fan slang for "otaku") to the sh*tty agency:
As long as you keep hard-pushing 'More-mi'* (a mocking nickname for Juice=Juice), I'm not setting foot at a single show — so heads up.
2Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:04:46.97
ANGERME had its own era of being relentlessly pushed too, you know.
Or is it still going on?
4Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:06:51.90
Sorry, but was there ever a time ANGERME was actually a big seller?
6Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:07:30.12
So what if one single guy stops showing up?
This just ends with a 'huh, okay' and nothing more.
7Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:07:39.22
Hey, sh*tty agency —
is it really fine that hard-pushing Juice
is leaving ANGERME's halls empty?
8Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:07:57.37
Did the hard-push era for 'Oinaisa'* (an unclear nickname, possibly referring to a past ANGERME member or era) just get memory-holed?
Convenient how selective that is.
10Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:08:28.14
Forget all that, go do something about Musume.* (shorthand for Morning Musume) instead.
11Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:08:47.31
You never actually went to shows in the first place — you're a 'zaitaku'* (home-based fan who never attends events) to begin with.
13Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:09:11.63
It's not just Juice fans —
Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, and OCHA NORMA fans all think the same thing:
it's such a waste that ANGERME plays half-empty halls all over the place.
14Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:09:20.64
I wish the agency would just put ANGERME wotas out of their misery already
— make the brave call.
15Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:10:54.31
This right here is exactly why people avoid ANGERME.
18Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:13:27.53
Do ANGERME wotas seriously think it never happened that they got handed an oversized hall for the fall tour — a textbook hard-push if there ever was one?
45Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:42:56.80
Re: #18
Because they genuinely believe the empty halls are happening despite NOT being hard-pushed.
19Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:13:29.95
Do you have any idea how much red ink ANGERME has cost the agency?
20Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:13:52.19
Honestly, isn't this tour basically the agency 'wakarase'-ing* (fan slang for punishing someone into 'understanding their place') the ANGERME members?
21Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:14:02.82
So that's why ANGERME's shows are empty.
What conviction.
23Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:15:06.34
They only got on Venue101 as a tie-in booking* ("bater," a package deal riding on another act's contract) with Juice,
and before that they'd never even appeared on NHK's Shibuya no Oto — so this was their first time in that slot in 12 years.
No way you can call that 'not being sidelined.'
66Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:47:02.35
Re: #23
They got a collab cafe as a tie-in FOR ANGERME too, lol
78Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:49:32.80
Re: #23
Juice's own stage was dead empty, so what else could they do?
24Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:15:14.02
If anything Juice isn't being pushed hard ENOUGH —
they can't even get booked into the right-sized venues.
68Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:47:31.68
Re: #24
That's because they were unpopular in the past.
26Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:16:16.52
Realistically, handing Juice every single one of ANGERME's venues still wouldn't be enough.
Be grateful you even get to run a half-empty tour at all.
73Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:48:27.04
Re: #26
Juice had fewer hall bookings up to now BECAUSE they were running losses, lol
28Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:17:22.24
If OP quits being a fan, ANGERME's down to like 5 wotas total.
31Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:20:57.95
'I'm boycotting ANGERME until you stop pushing Juice=Juice'
— so the 'wolves'* (a nickname for ANGERME's fanbase) have finally come to this.
32Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:23:44.85
Just treat everyone equally.

You don't have to push ANGERME, just stop freezing them out.

How much longer are you gonna keep 'wota-nagashi'-ing* (funneling fans from one group toward another)?

I only care about ANGERME, there's no way I'm getting funneled anywhere else.

Sideline ANGERME and I'm gone — canceling my fan club membership too!
33Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:24:55.12
The Christmas event hall is the same size as Lord Juice's, lol
Bigger than Lady Morning Musume's even, lol
How much more favoritism do you need?! And they don't even sell tickets!
Meanwhile everyone else keeps selling out because their venues are too small.
34Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:30:34.04
Ah, so THAT'S why the ANGERME tour is so empty.
37Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:34:28.40
ANGERME wotas really are like their 'keepers'* (self-deprecating idol-fan slang, likening fans to pet owners) — always quick to publicly air their feelings.
38Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:35:09.48
Why does ANGERME have so many fans like this?
41Anonymous2026/09/27 (Sun) 13:38:40.15
Re: #38
Because it's ANGERME.

Background and Key Points

Hello! Project runs several idol groups in parallel at any given time — currently including Morning Musume., ANGERME, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, and OCHA NORMA — and disputes over which group gets TV slots, cross-group collaborations, or larger tour venues have flared up among fans periodically for years. As several posters in the thread note, ANGERME itself went through a period of being the group accused of receiving preferential “gori-oshi” treatment, leading some to frame this boycott as simply a reversal of roles. It’s worth flagging that claims in the thread about “empty halls” and the agency “running losses” are not official figures — they reflect individual posters’ impressions and secondhand claims on an anonymous board, not disclosed ticket sales or financial data from the talent agency. Likewise, the “boycott” is the stated position of a single anonymous poster; nothing in this thread confirms it reflects an organized fan movement.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] An ANGERME fan declares a boycott until the agency stops overpushing Juice — also hurls abuse at the agency.”

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