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  • Ranking of Industries With the Most High Earners (Over ¥8 Million/Year) — #1 Comes In at a Staggering 47.2%

    A ranking of industries with the highest share of workers earning over ¥8 million a year, based on the FY2025 Survey on Private Sector Salary Conditions, is making waves online. The top spot goes to the electricity, gas, heat supply, and water industry at 47.2%, followed by finance and insurance at 31.7%. Meanwhile, the lowest-ranked industry comes in at just 2.8%, highlighting a huge gap between sectors. Reactions on the thread were split depending on where people stood: some pointed out that “¥8 million today, with inflation, is only worth about what ¥5 million was before COVID,” others cited data showing civil servants’ salaries overtake private-sector pay from their 40s onward, and still others bragged about their income by naming specific industries, drawing a mix of envy and skepticism.

    The industry with the highest proportion of high earners making over ¥8 million a year is “electricity, gas, heat supply, and water utilities.” Among its 181,000 salaried workers, the share earning over ¥8 million reaches 47.2% — meaning nearly half fall into the high-income bracket (related article: “[Ranking] The Share of Workers Earning Over ‘¥8 Million’ and ‘¥10 Million’ by Industry — Including Average Salaries by Sector 〈FY2025 Survey on Private Sector Salary Conditions〉”).

    The electricity/gas industry also posted a 29.9% share of workers earning over ¥10 million a year. The high profitability that comes with supporting critical infrastructure underpins this high-level pay structure.

    Ranked second is “finance and insurance.” Among its 1,295,000 salaried workers, 31.7% earn over ¥8 million a year. The share earning over ¥10 million is also high at 20.0% — meaning one in five workers reaches that milestone. The average salary here is ¥7.26 million.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:58
    ¥8 million a year doesn't exactly make you a high earner these days, does it
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:10
    Re: #6
    Re: #9
    Seriously, this.
    I'm up to ¥7.8 million now but life was way easier 5 years ago
    63AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:18
    Re: #6,36
    Inflation, every single thread (here we go again)
    155AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:36
    Re: #6
    Even I'm consistently clearing ¥8 million now
    Just a few years back, even with one-off income like relocation allowances thrown in, I was still under ¥8 million
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:00
    This is so misleading — ¥8 million today is only worth about what ¥5 million was before COVID
    130AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:11
    Turns out civil servants overtake the private sector starting in their 40s

    Re: #9
    Re: #29
    Company employees: earning ¥8M+ Civil servants: earning ¥8M+
    20s: under 1% 0%
    30s: 4% 3%
    40s: 12% 15%
    50s: 22% 32%
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:01
    On 5ch the minimum is apparently ¥10 million
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:10
    Re: #12
    Fake elite school, fake high income, more like
    137AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:18
    Re: #12
    Even ¥20 million gets treated like trash here, so the "average" must be like ¥30 million then?
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:01
    Re: #1
    Agriculture/forestry/fisheries and medical ranking low is probably because this only counts "salaried employees"
    Farmers and private-practice doctors are self-employed, so they're excluded
    189AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:33
    Re: #13
    "Medical" here probably means stuff like nursing care
    Doctors fall under licensed professions, different category
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:01
    High-paying bullshit jobs need to just disappear
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:06
    Re: #15
    Just say "finance and consulting" outright lol
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:03
    People who've been on at least one overseas trip
    74%
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:04
    Re: #17
    Probably a lot of those people traveled back when the yen was strong
    Now that the weak yen has everyone thrilled, it's domestic trips instead
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:06
    Re: #17
    Even I've been abroad, thanks to a company trip and my honeymoon…
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:12
    Re: #17
    Maybe the people who've never gone abroad were just loners who never got invited on a graduation trip
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:03
    Producers and childcare workers still aren't even clearing ¥250,000 a month — it's pure exploitation dressed up as "meaningful work"
    69AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:21
    Re: #20
    Temp agency factory work is brutal
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:07
    Calling ¥8 million a "high earner" is a joke lol
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:08
    Looking at it globally, hotel owners can become wealthy, but the employees' pay stays low.
    Every job comes with the treatment that suits it.
    Right tool for the right job, I suppose.
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:09
    Medical/welfare ranking is low
    Since lots of doctors pull in big money, that just shows how low nurses and welfare workers must actually be
    92AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:29
    Re: #32
    Nurses are still okay, but caregiving work… yikes
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:14
    Re: #35
    I don't think that's true at all.
    Look at reality — workplaces are overflowing with highly educated, high-earning people.
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:20
    Re: #50
    Spent 5 years in grad school and still low income 😢
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:17
    Plenty of people here bragging about making over ¥10 million, but almost nobody actually names their industry lol
    85AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:27
    Re: #57
    I make just over ¥15.5 million — it's IT/telecom
    97AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:34
    Re: #57
    What's the point of saying things like that?
    Knowing it doesn't mean you can actually get a job in that industry.
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:18
    Re: #30
    Hotels are basically yield-generating investment products, you know
    The owner and the operator are separate entities
    and since the operator leases at a premium while still needing to turn a profit,
    they've got no choice but to cut costs wherever they can
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:21
    Re: #64
    Between a foreign luxury hotel charging over ¥100,000 a night and a cheap business hotel,
    the pay for part-timers and non-regular staff is basically the same
    Even budget hotels require English at the front desk, and Japanese people who can actually speak it well go for higher-paying jobs instead — so hotels end up relying on foreign staff
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:24
    Re: #71
    Hotel employees get paid poorly
    because the job has no productivity (in the economic sense)
    82AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:25
    Re: #71
    People still take the job anyway, probably because they want to be of service to the wealthy.
    We should be grateful for that.
    83AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:25
    If you're in your 40s or 50s with less than ¥1 million saved, that's on you
    People like that shouldn't get welfare either
    I'm from the same lost generation, but I worked a brutal job and scrimped for retirement the whole way and saved up ¥3,000
    86AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:27
    Re: #83
    Go ahead and cry it out
    88AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:27
    Re: #83
    I'm exempt from national pension payments 😢
    186AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:20
    I work in manufacturing in Kanagawa — 9 years in and my take-home pay is ¥180,000 a month
    Guess I've got no choice but to look elsewhere. Kind of hoping the company just goes under honestly
    196AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:51
    Re: #186
    I'm on logistics night shift and take home about ¥230,000
    For a day shift in Kanagawa, that sounds about right

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This ranking is drawn from the National Tax Agency’s “Survey on Private Sector Salary Conditions,” using figures limited to salaried employees who went through year-end tax adjustment — it excludes self-employed people such as farmers and private-practice doctors. That’s why the low rankings for agriculture/forestry/fisheries and medical/welfare don’t directly reflect poor treatment across those entire industries. Meanwhile, the high rankings for electricity/gas and finance/insurance largely come down to industry structure: these sectors are dominated by large companies with limited competition due to infrastructure control and licensing requirements, which allows for stable bonus and base-salary structures. The recurring claim in the thread that “¥8 million no longer makes you a high earner” reflects the price increases since around 2020, and holds up as a fair point that nominal annual income alone doesn’t capture actual living standards.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Latest 2026] Ranking of Industries With the Most “High Earners Over ¥8 Million” — The Reality: #1 Is 47.2%, Dead Last Just 2.8%“.

  • People Who Never Touch X or LINE at All — Do They Actually Get By Fine? 5ch: ‘They’re Free, Which Is Exactly Why They Scare Me’

    A thread starter’s question — “I’ve genuinely never used either X or LINE, but do I actually need them?” — split opinion on the Nanimo Jikkyo (Live/News Commentary) board. Against the poster’s own stance of “it’s fine not to use them” and “I’m not struggling at all,” other users fired back with “it’s the people around you who end up struggling” and “it makes group messages more of a hassle,” pointing out that even if the person themselves isn’t inconvenienced, everyone around them is. The discussion then spread further, touching on otaku culture during the flip-phone-to-smartphone transition, a real example of an older coworker who refuses LINE at work and only accepts paper documents, and a generational divide in which younger people don’t even exchange phone numbers anymore, staying connected purely through Instagram DMs.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:16
    Are you doing some kind of research?
    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:17
    It's not a problem even if you don't use them
    If anything, there are upsides to NOT using them
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:18
    Re: #2
    Like what, specifically?
    Re: #3
    I'm not having any problems
    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:17
    It's not about whether YOU need it — if not having it causes trouble, it's the people around you who suffer, not you
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:19
    Re: #4
    That just means I don't have people like that around me, right?
    Then no problem
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:20
    Re: #6
    Huh? I use regular email just fine
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:21
    Re: #8
    When you want to send a message to everyone at once, you could just send it to the group — but if someone doesn't use LINE, it creates extra hassle
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:23
    Re: #10
    It's no hassle for me though
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:23
    There's an old guy at my work who refuses LINE and is the only one who still gets paper documents
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:24
    Re: #12
    Seems fine to me
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:24
    We're talking about the hassle on the SENDER's side — why's the receiver worried about hassle?
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:25
    Somebody out there is specifically going out of their way to email just YOU
    This kind of thing used to happen a lot with annoying otaku types back when everyone was switching from flip phones to smartphones
    Everyone else is connected through LINE or some other app, and you're the one lone holdout making things messy and annoying
    People rarely call this out because guys who can't read the room like this tend to get defensive and snap back, so the people around them just quietly suffer — it's kind of sad
    Even if YOU'RE fine with it, the people around you aren't — if you can't sense that without being told, you're done for
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:26
    Re: #16
    Then just don't send it to them, lol
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:27
    It's not strictly necessary, but some public services are starting to integrate with LINE now,
    so it might be worth at least having LINE installed, just in case
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:27
    Re: #17
    You're not getting the point at all, lol
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:28
    Re: #21
    It's free, which is exactly why it's scary, so no thanks
    Re: #22
    You're the one not getting it
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:28
    Ugh, falling for such an obvious summary-site affiliate bait thread… seriously, this board (nanimo-G) really is full of nothing but idiots
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:29
    Re: #25
    Stuff like X or LINE (lol) — you really don't need that junk
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:28
    So the culture of valuing morals that Japanese people used to have is really gone now. I can't believe you're even Japanese
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:29
    Re: #26
    Morals?
    That's just YOUR idea of morals, isn't it?
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:31
    Does this guy think going against the mainstream makes him look cool or something, old man?
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:32
    Re: #32
    Nah, it's not sarcasm or anything
    I just don't need it
    Me personally
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:32
    What era is this guy even living in, lol
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:33
    Re: #34
    Isn't a smartphone basically a phone?
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:34
    Honestly LINE is basically infrastructure at this point, but if you're like some unemployed older guy that nobody actually needs, I guess you could get by without it
    The type with no family at all is probably the one posting this stuff in Yahoo News comments
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:34
    Re: #39
    With friends it's email
    (LINE is dangerous, after all)
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:36
    Re: #41
    So you do have people to email, at least
    Well, if that works for you, then I guess you don't need LINE
    Though plenty of people are mostly on Instagram these days
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:37
    Re: #45
    I've got about 3 friends, I guess!
    Do I even have that many? (lol)
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:38
    Re: #45
    There was a time when LINE got so widespread that people started saying young folks don't even exchange phone numbers anymore. But now it's gone even further — they trade Instagram handles instead, so it's totally normal to not know someone's phone number OR their LINE
    It kind of feels like LINE has taken over the role phone numbers and carrier email used to have, and now it's being replaced in turn
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:39
    Re: #48
    If anything, that few friends means less hassle overall
    Well, if someone can't deal with it, they'll just drift away on their own — so I guess if you say you're not bothered, you probably really aren't
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:41
    Re: #53
    Exactly
    People who are going to drift away will drift away anyway
    And being 'connected' through social media (lol)?
    That's a little hard to trust, honestly
    54AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:40
    These days friends just DM each other on Instagram to begin with. Did you know that, old man? Lol
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:41
    Re: #54
    So THAT'S what's wrong with you! (lol)
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:40
    I don't use X or LINE either, and my social circle keeps shrinking steadily as a result

    I'm not bothered by that myself, but if you want to have a normal social life these days, I'd think you actually need them quite a bit
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:42
    Re: #55
    It's banned at my company, you know
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:43
    Smartphones are the ones messing (people) up
    I wonder when he'll realize that (lol)
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:47
    Re: #62
    I actually agree with that part
    I have an account but I've never once posted on X
    Instagram and LINE, though, I use with close friends and family
    63AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:43
    How do you handle work documents or sharing photos and stuff, then?
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:44
    Re: #63
    Email attachments, basically

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    LINE launched in 2011 under NAVER (now LINE Yahoo) and has since become firmly established in Japan as the standard way people stay in touch one-on-one, with government agencies and companies also using it for notifications. The thread’s disagreement came down to a difference in perspective — whether the user themselves is inconvenienced versus whether the people around them are. The discussion kept talking past itself, with the original poster insisting “I’m not having any problems” while others complained that it makes group communication more of a hassle. There was also a notable point that “young people today don’t even exchange phone numbers or LINE IDs anymore — they connect purely through Instagram DMs,” which points to a generational shift where the dominant means of communication is moving on even from LINE itself. That nuance — that LINE isn’t really a simple “use it or don’t” question anymore — is useful background that doesn’t come through from the thread exchange alone.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “Do I actually need X or LINE? I’ve genuinely never used either.”

  • BYD Hits 10,000 Deliveries in Japan as Kei EV ‘RACCO’ Becomes Flagship Model — 5ch: ‘Never See One on the Road’

    Chinese EV giant BYD has reportedly reached 10,000 vehicle deliveries in Japan’s passenger car market roughly three years and nine months after entering it, with its kei-class (Japan’s compact minicar standard) battery EV “RACCO,” launched in late July, now accounting for about 80% of orders and becoming the brand’s flagship model, according to Chinese media. On 5ch forum threads, posters pointed out that the delivery count per dealership looks tiny given the headline total, and many said they never actually see the car on the road despite the strong sales — sparking a recurring back-and-forth between claims of “I see them all the time in Tokyo” and counterclaims of “I’ve never seen one.” Reactions also diverged sharply over perceptions of Chinese EV quality and expectations for future market share.

    Chinese outlet Kuai Technology reported on the 8th that, in connection with BYD delivering its 10,000th new vehicle in Japan, the battery EV “RACCO,” designed specifically to meet Japan’s kei-car standard and launched in late July, has already become the brand’s flagship sales model.

    According to the report, BYD reached its 10,000th delivery about three years and nine months after entering Japan’s passenger car market in January 2023. That milestone vehicle was the “SEALION 6,” a plug-in hybrid (PHEV) and the first PHEV BYD introduced for the Japanese market.

    The report noted that BYD’s passenger vehicle registrations in Japan rose 68% year-on-year to 3,742 units in 2025, then rose 42.7% year-on-year to 2,334 units from January to June 2026, before hitting an all-time monthly high of 1,260 units in August 2026 — with RACCO accounting for roughly 80% of those orders.

    Source: recordchina.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:34
    Didn't even notice, but it's selling like crazy.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:38
    Re: #2
    Japan's domestic EV (BEV) sales in September 2026 came in at 16,074 units, up 88.6% year-on-year — an all-time monthly record, it was revealed on the 6th. EVs' share of total passenger car sales also hit a record high of 4.5%. Sales grew for standard-size EVs from Toyota, Nissan, SUBARU and others. The Japan Automobile Dealers Association says "the subsidy effect is huge," but whether the growth continues hinges on when the current subsidy program — expected to stop accepting applications sometime this year — actually closes. (Alterna Deputy Editor-in-Chief, Hiroyuki Kyomasa)
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:43
    Re: #2
    No Japanese person actually trusts Chinese media.
    You're Chinese, aren't you.
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:35
    If it's sold 10,000 units, why do I never see a single one on the road?
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:38
    Re: #5-6
    If you live in Tokyo, you actually see them fairly often.
    They stick in your memory, so you react like "oh, a RACCO!"
    It's a nice car.
    Makes you think Chinese-made cars have really come this far.
    I grew up with the image that "Made in China" meant shoddy goods, so having that assumption shattered is unsettling.
    101AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:57
    Re: #18
    No way, I'd never buy one — too embarrassing, and it'll probably break down before long anyway lol
    107AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:58
    Re: #18
    Never see 'em lol
    Do you live right in front of a BYD dealership or something lol
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:37
    I hear there are only about 700 blood-transport vehicles in the whole country, yet I still spot one a few times a year.
    With 10,000 of these on the road, you'd think I'd be able to spot one too, but…
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:39
    Re: #12
    It's not like it has a particularly distinctive shape though.
    Can you really spot a RACCO at a glance on the street?
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:40
    A RACCO craze is sweeping across Japan
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:40
    TV Tokyo sure keeps running special features on it.
    Meanwhile they barely cover Suzuki's new kei EV at all.
    205AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:21
    Re: #26
    Probably because it doesn't have sliding doors, and the "S" badge is stuck in a weird spot.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:40
    Isn't it just Chinese nationals living in Japan buying them?
    There's no real upside to buying one when there are so many trustworthy domestic automakers.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:44
    Re: #28
    Honestly, once you see how bad Suzuki's kei EV is,
    even a non-Chinese person starts wanting a RACCO.
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:43
    https://ogre.natalie.mu/media/news/comic/2011/1226/rakko.jpg
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:55
    10,000 units in 3 years and 4 months works out to about 250 a month. Divide that by Japan's 77 dealerships and that's just over 3 actual deliveries per dealership, per month.
    Thanks a bunch for that. (sarcastic stock phrase, like "much obliged")
    108AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:58
    Re: #96
    That's not selling at all lol
    115AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:00
    Re: #101
    Well, that's probably just how the older generation of Japanese sees it.
    Can't be helped, I guess.
    The generation that's going to shape Japan's future doesn't carry as strong an image of Chinese goods being shoddy.
    Given China's economic and technological strength, Chinese cars are only going to become more common in Japan.

    If Japan's domestic automakers were still strong, it'd be a different story. But Nissan's done, Honda's shaky too, and even Toyota barely has a presence in global markets lately.
    152AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:11
    Re: #115
    You
    clearly haven't looked at
    BYD's suspension setup.
    It's stuck back in the 2008 era.
    171AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:16
    Re: #115
    Some motoring journalist I'd never heard of praised it in this really confusing way — saying the ride quality resonating up through the body feels like a 1990s Golf, giving a sense of structural rigidity.

    I took that to mean the body and chassis are at a 30-year-old standard — is that supposed to mean the tech is advanced?
    122AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:01
    In Tokyo I see BYDs besides the RACCO too! There are BYD taxis around as well.
    127AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:02
    Re: #122
    Funny thing is, I've never seen a BYD except as a taxi.
    If we're talking taxis, I see a lot of Hyundais too.
    123AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:01
    Re: #107
    I do see them.
    Either you don't actually remember what the RACCO looks like, or you're assuming a Chinese car would stick out badly —
    but in reality it just blends in normally, so you're simply not noticing it.

    I've seen them with my own eyes, so I'm not interested in turning this into a pointless he-said-she-said.
    131AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:04
    Re: #123
    Does the driving data and customer info get sent back to mainland China?
    175AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:17
    Re: #166
    Sure, yeah.
    I think that's fine for you.
    Toyota and Honda will probably both still be around just fine until your time's up anyway.

    I'm just saying it might go differently for the next, younger generation.
    187AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:19
    Re: #175
    Haha, he called me "you."
    Coming from some weirdo, no less lol
    208AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:22
    Re: #175
    Saying it like "the younger generation will choose BYD cars" is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
    All that really means is that the younger generation just wants a car that doesn't break down and is as cheap as possible — that's the kind of car they're after, that's all you're really saying.
    178AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:17
    But in the end, smartphones got wiped out by China, Korea, and Taiwan anyway, despite everyone nitpicking them to death 👏😆
    188AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:19
    Re: #178
    Isn't the actual winner there Google though…
    243AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:28
    Re: #178
    Wait, is the iPhone even Chinese?
    185AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:18
    Re: #171
    Well, I don't know who that random motoring journalist even is, and that's just their opinion anyway.
    Not sure why you're asking me about it…
    From what I can see watching RACCOs drive around Tokyo from the outside, it looks quiet and smooth — seems like a perfectly good car to me.
    I just haven't ridden in one myself though.
    201AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:21
    Re: #185
    What does "looks quiet and smooth from the outside" even mean?
    It's an EV, so of course it's quiet.
    Is there even such a thing as a car that looks "not smooth" from the outside?
    211AnonymousOct 12, 2026 23:22
    Re: #185
    I've never seen an EV that looks noisy and rough from the outside lol

    Have you never owned a car?
    You can't tell if a car is actually good unless you ride in it — or rather, own it.
    That's embarrassing, so maybe stop there.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Kei cars make up nearly 40% of new vehicle sales in Japan, a segment long dominated by domestic makers like Honda’s N-BOX and Suzuki — one where a foreign maker’s kei EV becoming a flagship product has almost no precedent. BYD’s delivery total stands at 10,000 units over roughly three years and nine months, still a tiny slice of the kei-car market overall, which runs into the millions of units a year — meaning the thread’s sense of “I never see one” and the reporting’s framing of it as a “flagship model” aren’t necessarily contradictory. With only 77 dealerships nationwide, how often people actually spot one likely varies a lot by region. The thread also revealed real gaps in attitudes toward Chinese product quality and expectations for future market share — not just simple like-or-dislike, but a generational difference in how people are processing the shift.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “BYD delivers its 10,000th new vehicle in Japan, with kei BEV “RACCO” already its flagship model — Chinese media.”

  • ANGERME Concert: Fan Finds ‘Loophole’ in Message-Board Ban — Ise Suzuran Fan’s Move Sparks Mixed Reactions

    On the Hello! Project 5ch board (the Hello!Pro board), holding up message boards from the audience has long been banned at ANGERME concerts — but a fan supporting Ise Suzuran stirred up discussion by getting around the rule, sticking a sign to their chest instead of holding it up. Opinions on the thread split: some pointed out that while ‘holding it in hand’ is banned, sticking it to clothing isn’t explicitly prohibited, while others criticized the move as clearly violating the spirit of the rule. The show was also a milestone occasion — Ise’s 300th appearance coinciding with Yukiho Shimoidani’s homecoming performance — so alongside the debate over the method, attention also turned to how the organizers would respond.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:09
    [Good News] Ise Suzuran's blog makes no mention of the 300th-show uproar. Looking more and more likely that the 'Ise's 300th Celebration' and 'Shimoidani's Homecoming' will go ahead together as planned
    204 Anonymous Recruiting… [] Mon 2026/10/12 12:52:30.83 0
    If holding up a message sign (a 'sukebu'-style sketchpad sign) is banned, there's no way sticking paper to your chest is OK lol
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:10
    There's no way Ise is happy about this either.
    They should really stop.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:11
    Between ISE's fans and this, seems like she's stuck with nothing but tasteless otaku.
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:13
    People who don't even get what actually matters here.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:14
    They were probably told holding it up is banned.
    All I can say is: if something's against the rules, don't do it.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:14
    This Ise fan…
    I really wish they'd finally realize this is basically harassment-level behavior.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:14
    Stuff like this is exactly what drives casual fans away.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:15
    Wasn't it also an Ise fan selling stickers or something at the venue?
    Ise's fanbase is full of problem fans — guess they take after their favorite.
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:19
    Reference image
    Hello! Con, January 2, 2024
    A fan of Natsukihime Nakayama named Ai stuck a sign to her body in the front row
    The next day, Nakayama sent a personal thank-you message


    Honestly, there were so many moments throughout where I almost lost it and cried 😭

    But there's kind of an 'if I cry, it's over' feeling, and I'm super prone to tears…
    I really was trying to hold it together and switch gears to keep performing 💭

    Seeing everyone crying, and writing their feelings down on paper to share with me — watching that, I was right on the verge of tears.

    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:19
    I bet it won't be long before watching with a message sign stuck to your body gets banned too.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:24
    @
    Monday the 12th in Kurashiki
    For Yuppyon's (Shimoidani Yukiho's) homecoming show
    and Reira's (Ise Suzuran's) 300th-show celebration
    before the show starts
    'Welcome back, Yuppyon!'
    'Reira, 300 shows!'
    for the first song
    hot pink and orange
    penlights might be nice
    #IseSuzuran
    #ShimoidaniYukiho
    #ANGERME
    #FuurinKazanNi
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:29
    Even this is already a big compromise compared to what it originally was.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:30
    Re: #19
    Even though it's wrong?
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:29
    ISE
    Selling homemade stickers inside the venue
    Crummy makeshift sign ← NEW
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:30
    126 Anonymous Recruiting… Mon 2026/10/12 00:38:16.56 0
    People who pull stuff like this think on a totally different wavelength from normal folks.
    The more it hypes up Moimoi's homecoming, the more I bet they're secretly thinking, 'Good thing I went with a low-key sign instead of some flashy stunt that would've stolen the spotlight — I really am sharp,' and basking in their own cleverness.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:35
    On the '60-try Club' segment, Ise said her fans feel like friends to her.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:35
    Alright! For Ojisan Baby's sake, I'm gonna chug Yakult 400 at the venue!
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:37
    Now I get why attendance has been dropping even without any actual scandal.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:38
    Hi there, I'm Ken Nakazawa, UMA (cryptid) researcher. (a recurring 5ch copypasta impersonating a real cryptozoologist)
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:48
    As a newbie, I don't really get why this is such a big deal.
    People should just do what they want — if you want to join in, join in.
    Also, not everyone's even on X (Twitter), so it seems like it's bound to end up scattered anyway.
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:49
    Holding it in your hand risks someone raising it up high.
    Stick it to your chest and you can't do that.
    It's a completely different thing.
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:50
    Re: #34
    Then penlights should be banned too.
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 15:55
    Re: #34
    Actually, raising penlights up high isn't banned anymore.
    54AnonymousOct 12, 2026 16:58


    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 17:56
    Total victory for the problem fans

    405 Anonymous Recruiting… Mon 2026/10/12 17:48:31.41 0
    Every member was sharing warm, heartfelt stories about Yuppyon, and the whole venue had this lovely atmosphere — but right at the very end, Ise went and said something like 'Hey, I can see you guys put that sign up for me, 300 shows huh?' and the place went '…uneasy murmur.'
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:29
    Re: #64
    She couldn't just not acknowledge it, could she? Honestly, Ise is the one to feel sorry for here.
    95AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:47
    If they let this slide, it's going to be anything-goes from here on.
    105AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:50
    Re: #95
    Yep.
    So basically the ANGERME scene is officially fine with problem fans.
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:47
    Is Pia Arena MM going to be okay with this?
    101AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:48
    Re: #96
    No chance.
    Guaranteed to be empty.
    104AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:50
    Re: #96
    Oh, it'll be fine.
    Message-board cheering just got deregulated, after all.
    106AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:50
    Doesn't the agency tell members not to acknowledge what's going on in the audience?
    At this rate it just turns into whoever gets the most attention wins.
    113AnonymousOct 12, 2026 18:52
    Re: #106
    Haven't you seen Kamiko (another member's nickname)? Her crowd-teasing is way worse than this.

    Background and Points of Debate

    At Hello! Project live shows, holding up message boards from the audience has long been banned, originally over concerns like blocking other fans’ view. What sparked discussion this time is that the ban is worded specifically around ‘holding it in your hand’ — meaning sticking paper to your clothing may not actually be covered by the rule as written. The thread split between those arguing this isn’t technically a rule violation, and those arguing it clearly goes against the spirit of the rule regardless of wording — a classic ‘letter of the rule vs. spirit of the rule’ debate that comes up often at these shows. Some also pointed to how the ban on raising penlights high was later relaxed (see post #24), raising doubts about how consistently the rules are even enforced. Readers should note that the thread mixes hearsay and speculation, and the text doesn’t actually confirm the specific content of any response from the organizers.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Pro) thread “[Good News] ANGERME’s Ise Suzuran Fan Exploits a Loophole in the Message-Board Ban Rule [Organizer Response Included]”.

  • Okayama and Kagawa see over 3% net outflow of women in their early 20s — 5ch: ‘Well, if you can get out to the city, you should’

    According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications’ population migration statistics, Okayama Prefecture’s net outflow rate for women in their early 20s hit 3.07% last year, while Kagawa Prefecture’s reached 3.71%. That means more than 3% of women in their early 20s left each prefecture within a single year. The original article presents this figure as one factor behind rural population decline. On 5ch, opinions split between those citing structural causes — a lack of appealing jobs and universities locally — and those citing cultural ones, namely a desire to escape the gender-role pressures and conservative atmosphere that persist in rural areas.

    Special feature: the decline of young women in Okayama and Kagawa is accelerating.

    ■ Over 3% of women in their early 20s leave Okayama and Kagawa in a single year

    According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, last year Okayama Prefecture’s net outflow rate for women in their early 20s was 3.07%. Kagawa Prefecture’s was 3.71%. That means more than 3% of women in their early 20s left Okayama and Kagawa within a single year.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:34
    Let's clean up the language in here — 'deeree' and 'bokkee' are banned (Okayama dialect words meaning 'really/very')
    54AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:55
    Re: #5
    Okayama already has words like 'hanakamitai' that'll get you punched if you say them carelessly, so banning a few more is no big deal (a local phrase that sounds offensive out of context)
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:37
    Women who are heavily dependent on others just don't feel safe unless they're somewhere crowded
    140AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:43
    Re: #13
    If anything, leaving the turf you grew up in takes more guts — women are the braver ones here, really. Zoom out and rural men are basically shut-ins who don't know the world, big fish acting like the boss of their tiny pond, when in reality they're just hopeless cowards
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:39
    (´・ω・`)
    At the very least, there's no happiness in Tokyo… especially brutal for women I'd think (he uses 'man-san,' a dismissive 5ch slang term for women)
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:56
    Re: #15
    Unless a woman gets into a Tokyo university on the level of Waseda/Keio or better, or heads to Tokyo from Okayama University holding a ticket in — a confirmed offer for a full management track at a major company — she's basically stuck
    132AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:35
    Re: #15
    Unlike the countryside, you can at least scrape by somehow in the city
    134AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:38
    Re: #15
    Even so, it's apparently still better than Okayama.
    It's become the kind of place young women feel they have to flee from.
    And wherever young women are fleeing from is usually some place pushing outdated gender roles and meddling in everyone's life, completely oblivious to it
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:39
    If they really want to stop this, everyone over 40 — old men and women alike, government or private sector — should retire and stick to part-time work.
    Do that and young people will show up on their own
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:48
    Re: #16
    Nobody's aiming for a region or company where you 'retire' at 40 and get rehired part-time.
    Treating someone like an old fogey and switching them to a rehire contract while their kids are still in elementary or middle school is just insulting.

    Go post a job listing at your company offering 300 million yen paid out by age 40 and see who shows up
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:59
    Re: #16
    If anything, I think it'd be better if women between 40 and 65 could land stable, well-paid jobs
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:41
    It's because there are no appealing companies or universities anywhere in the Chugoku-Shikoku region
    137AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:41
    Re: #22
    That's not it.
    They're leaving right after they graduate from university
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:45
    The day before yesterday I went to Ikebukuro's east exit for the first time in ages and there was this insane crowd of young people — I came home practically in tears.
    There's nothing there but Sunshine City, so why do people always flock to places that crowded?
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:49
    Pass a prefectural ordinance requiring anyone who moves out to pay the prefecture 10 million yen.
    In exchange, give women who move in a 5 million yen settling-in grant, plus 1 million yen per child born
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:51
    Re: #42
    Legally impossible.
    You can't restrict where people live
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:56
    Re: #42
    What is this, defecting from your feudal domain?
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Okayama's the middle of nowhere with nothing but an AEON mall, of course people leave — nobody wants to be a farmer, and mamakari (a local pickled fish dish) isn't even that good.
    Women get literally pointed at and laughed at for speaking Okayama dialect
    130AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:33
    Re: #45
    Okayama Prefecture does have an adult shop called Book Mate
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:05
    Well, there's really nothing going on if you stay in Okayama.
    I mean, if you can get out to the city, you should
    83AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:08
    Re: #70
    If you can land a job at a top-tier company, sure, leave — but if not, I think you'd be happier staying in the countryside.
    Especially ten years from now
    89AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:11
    Re: #1
    Like the feudal Edo era, set up checkpoints and don't let anyone defect from the domain.
    Guess it's back to 'guns in, women out' (an Edo-period checkpoint policy restricting incoming firearms and outgoing women)
    100AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:14
    Re: #89
    Anyone who defects from the domain will be hunted down by order from above — searched out to the last blade of grass and cut down
    153AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:49
    Even with a degree from a top university, there's no job to match it, for men and women alike.
    Everything's concentrated in Tokyo, with only a handful of options in Kansai
    161AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:55
    Re: #153
    The jobs concentrated in Tokyo are mostly liberal-arts-track office jobs, so that's risky — AI could wipe them out within ten years
    162AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:56
    Re: #153
    Though doesn't Okayama just not have any top-tier universities to begin with…?
    177AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:03
    Okayama Prefecture has no choice but to revive old Kibi Province from before the ritsuryō system — split into Bizen, Bichu, Bingo, and Mimasaka
    https://kotobank.jp/image/dictionary/nipponica/media/81306024018325.jpg
    186AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:09
    If you're not good at studying or sports, I think women are better off just staying local and marrying a civil servant
    187AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:11
    Re: #186
    Studying, sure, I get that — but making money off sports is such a rare case, why bring that up like it's a normal option?
    197AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:18
    Re: #191
    He means getting into college on an athletic recommendation.

    So really, Re: #186 should've said 'can't get into a top university through academics or sports' instead of just 'not good at studying or sports'
    191AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:14
    Re: #187
    If you're at the level of having competed in the Inter-High (the national high school athletic championships), even without an athletic scholarship you can still get into a well-known private university through a designated-school recommendation
    199AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:19
    Re: #191
    Use your sports record to get into 'Mākan' (slang for a certain junior college), and with decent looks and a bit of charm you can land something like a region-limited general track job at a big company (what used to be called the 'office lady' track).
    Then marry an elite there, lol.
    Though even then, buying a house in today's Tokyo is probably still out of reach

    Background and key points of this discussion

    It’s worth noting that this “3% net outflow rate” measures the share of women in their early 20s for whom outflow exceeded inflow within that single year — it is not a cumulative population decline figure. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications publishes this kind of “young women leaving” data every year, and the same trend holds not just for Okayama and Kagawa but across rural regions generally, including Tohoku, San’in, and Shikoku. Since Hiroya Masuda’s “regional extinction” theory gained traction, two explanations have run side by side: a structural one, pointing to major companies and competitive universities clustering in Tokyo, and a cultural one, pointing to the pressure of gender-role expectations that persist in rural households. The thread reflected that same split, with some blaming the lack of jobs and universities and others saying people want to escape the conservative atmosphere of rural life. Folk theories like “whether there’s an adult shop or not,” meanwhile, have no empirical basis and were left out of this write-up.

    ※This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (News速報+) thread “How do we stop it? Outflow of young women from the prefecture accelerates — over 3% of women in their early 20s left Okayama and Kagawa in a single year.”

  • Moshing Breaks Out at Gunma-chan Idol Fest, Show Halted — Otaku Mob Issues Dogeza Apology

    At an idol festival held in Gunma, moshing — a banned activity in the audience area — broke out, forcing the event to a temporary halt. The organizers apologized, framing the stoppage as “the organizer’s decision,” while adding, “In the near future, we are planning a real "festival" unbound by regulations.” Fans of the group whose set was cut short complained that fans of other groups committed the same violations at the same venue without being warned, sparking a split on 5ch over whether the organizers’ response was fair.

    @

    [Chaos Erupts at Idol Fest]

    Banned moshing breaks out in the audience

    Source: video.twimg.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:09
    They probably think drama like this is good for business.
    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:10
    Not our problem — just some underground idol stuff.
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:10
    They moshed and now they want a refund?
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:26
    Re: #4
    The ones moshing were the deadbeat otaku who don't pay. The paying otaku up front are furious because freeloaders are shoving into the paid front-row area ("pinchike") without paying, which is what caused this — they're demanding their money back.
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:10
    In response, the management harboring these troublemaking otaku put out this official statement:


    @
    [Regarding Today's Live Show Interruption]

    Regarding today's performance being halted partway through: this interruption was a decision made by the organizer.
    We apologize to everyone in attendance for the worry and confusion caused by the sudden stoppage.

    In the near future, we are planning a real "festival" unbound by regulations.

    We appreciate your understanding.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:12
    Re: #5
    Did an otaku write this… "Runo"? (probably autocorrect mangling "wrote this, huh?" into the idol's name)
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:12
    Re: #5
    That's insane. What group is this?
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:11
    I wonder where Araiguma-chan (a pun on "raccoon" plus the Gunma-chan mascot) is and what she's up to these days.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:13
    Yeah, this group's gonna get banned from venues left and right.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:14
    Fans from the opening act were committing violations nonstop, yet this group was the only one whose song got cut — of course they're pissed. And the even worse stuff that happened afterward got completely ignored.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:14
    Don't know which management this is, but they're out of their minds. The girls in this group should all quit.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:14
    Meanwhile
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:23
    Re: #20
    Haha, oh sure, sure, lol. This is FES☆TIVE, the group that brands itself the "live show boss" but can't even break into the mainstream, lol.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:15
    Never thought the Gunma-chan fest would turn into a riot scene… that's just sad.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:16
    That's a pretty lame mosh pit. If you're gonna do it, do it properly.
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:16
    Huh? Rosy wasn't booked this year. Scheduling conflict or something?
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:16
    Re: #23
    I don't think they've appeared since debuting.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:16
    If you can't handle getting banned from co-headlining shows, don't show up in the first place. What a nuisance.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:17
    DEVIAN's set right after this one was peaceful, but the UTAGE crowd (nicknamed the "UTAGE Cannon" for their chaos) probably went off.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:17
    Sounds like one of those shouting matches among nuisance train-photographer otaku.
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:18
    Re: #28
    Same IQ level, honestly.
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:17
    Oh, it's FES☆TIVE? They're actually fairly well-known.
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:18
    Well, with this management's attitude, they're probably getting banned from the big co-headlining shows.
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:19
    So a "real festival" means enjoying the show as animals instead of as human beings?
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:19
    The reason they didn't stop the chaos even when other groups' sections were going wild is that it was this group's own otaku causing it there too.
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:20
    Someone's gonna get hurt and this'll blow up again. They'll probably end up making otaku sign waivers before long. Who'd even want to go to a show like that?
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:20
    Wow, so basically "we didn't make the call, so it's not our responsibility" — that's the line, huh?
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:21
    What is this lame excuse for a mosh pit? Go learn how it's done at Dead Pop Festival.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:21
    The otaku here have zero manners. Is this an underground idol group? The fans are all men though.
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:24
    Re: #40
    Shosen (the bookstore chain), Lime-sta, and President Iwashita (the pickled-ginger company president famous for being an idol otaku) all follow them — this is a pretty major group.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:22
    FES☆TIVE otaku: "This is our idol Danjiri Festival!" (a reference to a notoriously rough, injury-prone float festival — i.e., bragging about the chaos)
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:22
    If they ever clashed with Hello! Project fans, the Hello! Project fans would probably win.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:24
    Re: #26
    I'm pretty sure they were there last year. I remember debating whether to travel all the way out to Gunma for it.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:27
    If this means this idol group can't appear at other festivals anymore, then Juice — who's got plenty of nuisance otaku policing the front row too — should get banned as well, right?
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:30
    Re: #55
    If they don't actually get called out for a banned act, that's not gonna happen, is it?
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:35
    I absolutely hate Kira Fore, UTAGE, and FES☆TIVE.
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:43
    Re: #67
    Wait, does the management actually encourage people to go wild?

    Background and Points of Debate

    Because of the risk of accidents like falls or crowd-crush injuries, moshing has in recent years become an explicitly banned activity at many live shows and co-headlining festivals. In this case, the organizers’ comment explaining the stoppage used the phrase “we are planning a real "festival" unbound by regulations,” which readers took as reading like an apology and a defiant excuse at the same time, sparking reactions in the thread. There were also claims that fans of other groups at the same venue broke the same rules without being warned, while this group alone was forced into a stoppage and apology — making the fairness of the organizers’ response a central point of debate. That said, it’s worth noting that the specific group names and claims about “who’s to blame” raised here remain unverified testimony and speculation from the 5ch thread, with no third-party confirmation.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Video] Banned moshing breaks out at the Gunma-chan Idol Festival, halting the event, and the otaku mob who moshed issues a dogeza apology.”

  • Fond Memories of ‘Knight Gundam Story’: Fans Reminisce About Carddass and Superior Dragon

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyou G” board got nostalgic about the Famicom-era game “Knight Gundam Story.” Posters got fired up discussing Cannon’s betrayal plot twist, memories of reluctantly resetting the game after losing Carddass battles to tough kid opponents, and the ever-popular power-up forms “Superior Dragon” and “Full Armor Knight Gundam.” The thread also touched on generational theories about how SD Gundam carried the franchise through the gap between Zeta Zeta Gundam and Victory Gundam, dug up memories of what the in-game Carddass cards were actually for, and even shared images confirming a scene where an enemy character swaps places with an ally.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:34
    Anything come to mind?
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:36
    Cannon betrays you
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:36
    Re: #5
    Was that really how it went?
    Why?
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Re: #6
    I think there was something like him being mind-controlled by the enemy
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:38
    Got stuck resetting the game in tears after some brat kid busted out a Kakurikon card in a Carddass battle (a notoriously broken card)
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:39
    Re: #11
    Yeah, that special medicine item is absolute garbage, isn't it
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:41
    Isn't that the one where the GM turns into a Gundam?
    I played the Famicom game when I was a little kid.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:42
    Re: #17
    No it doesn't
    A GM stays a GM forever
    If you're born a GM, that's just how it ends
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:43
    Re: #18
    Wasn't there a scene where a GM raises its sword and goes 'Actually, I was a Gundam all along!' and then turns into one?
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:44
    Re: #18
    You're thinking of Indy Gundam
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:45
    Superior Dragon is honestly one of the coolest-looking Mobile Suits of all time.
    It scorched itself into my brain back in elementary school.
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:46
    Re: #26
    Thanks to that thing, I ended up with a fetish for light-and-darkness fusion too
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:46
    Re: #26
    They've been re-releasing a bunch of stuff lately, including Superior Kaiser
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:46
    It's the one where it fuses with the enemy boss to become Super Gundam, right?
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:46
    Re: #28
    Is that a homage to Piccolo fusing with Kami (God) [from Dragon Ball]?
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:47
    As a game, the Famicom version of the second one has the most content, but the BGM is absolute trash
    93AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:20
    Re: #37
    I thought the field theme was good, but the regular battle theme was way too mediocre
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:48
    I survived the dark ages between ZZ Gundam and Victory Gundam thanks to SD Gundam
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Re: #42
    It's not an exaggeration to say SD Gundam and G Gundam are the reason the Gundam franchise survived at all
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:48
    Do each of the Gundam characters here have a human pilot inside (like Amuro)?
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Re: #43
    Nope
    They're their own race called the 'Mobile Suit tribe'
    Humans like Amuro are a separate 'human tribe' that exists on its own
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Re: #43
    There are also human-sized humans existing separately, and there's even a thing called 'Kihei' where a Gundam rides inside another Gundam
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    What was even the point of the in-game Carddass cards?
    I feel like I tried hard to collect them, but I don't remember why.
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:51
    Re: #48
    You summon them with a spell called 'Call,' and they join the battle like a monster ally, kind of like in Dragon Quest
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:52
    Re: #48
    If you collect the letters on the right edge, you find out how to get to Carddass Island
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:53
    I'm 45 and not even from the Gundam generation, but for some reason I played Knight Gundam Story.
    I collected the Carddass cards too.
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:54
    Re: #56
    Not the Gundam generation exactly, but people in their 40s are the generation that got hit directly by SD Gundam
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:53
    Re: #31
    There's also one now called 'Superior Formula Final Dragon' that borrows elements from a different SD series
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:54
    Re: #57
    Isn't that a different thing from Gundam Mk-V?
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:58
    Wasn't there a Full Armor Knight Gundam?
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:06
    Re: #67
    The one equipped with the Three Sacred Treasures is Full Armor Knight [Gundam]
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:05
    Re: #6
    I feel like he was temporarily swapped out with a fake
    I remember realizing 'wait, the face on the status screen looks slightly different!' if you looked closely
    75AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:07
    Re: #73
    This is it

    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:10
    Re: #75
    Yes, this is it, this is it!
    So nostalgic, thanks!
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:12
    What about Musha Gundam 🥺
    87AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:15
    Re: #81
    I collected BB Senshi figures
    I love the 3rd generation Shogun Gundam (written with the punning kanji '頑駄無')
    91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:18
    Re: #81
    Musha Gundam is basically a tale of conquering provinces
    95AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:22
    I think Nu Gundam told Double Zeta something like 'You're just a brute who's all muscle, there's no way you could rescue Lord Alex'
    97AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:25
    Re: #95
    Zeta, Double Zeta, and Nu were originally set up to not get along
    100AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:27
    Alex is supposedly the leader of the Algus Knights, but he's such a non-entity
    104AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:29
    Re: #100
    The plastic model had metal armor and it looked so cool

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Knight Gundam Story” was one of the SD Gundam titles released around 1990 on platforms like the Famicom, and the fact that it was tied into Bandai’s Carddass (gachapon-style trading card) promotions is central to this thread’s conversation. The “Carddass” elements mentioned in posts #48, #52, and #53, along with the Carddass battle story in post #11, reflect how players at the time collected physical cards alongside playing the game. Where opinions diverged in the thread was over the popularity of fusion/power-up forms like “Superior Dragon” and “Full Armor Knight Gundam,” and over generational theories about how SD Gundam and G Gundam propped up the franchise during the transitional “dark age” between ZZ Gundam and Victory Gundam. Though not mentioned in the article itself, the Knight Gundam Story series had multiple Famicom entries, and the “second game’s BGM” discussed in posts #37 and #93 appears to refer to one specific installment among them. Overall, the thread reads as nostalgic reminiscing from a particular age bracket (roughly people in their 40s) rather than a heated debate over which entry was better.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (“Nandemo Jikkyou G”) thread “Memories of Knight Gundam Story“.

  • Announcer Shinichi Hatori Confesses the University That Rejected Him — Tokumitsu Kazuo Stunned: ‘Seriously?!’

    Freelance announcer Shinichi Hatori (55) revealed on the October 11 broadcast of BS-TBS’s “Sekiguchi Hiroshi no Sannin Yoreba” that he had failed to get into Rikkyo University during his entrance exams. Hatori is a graduate of Waseda University’s School of Political Science and Economics, and fellow guest Kazuo Tokumitsu and others exclaimed “Seriously?!” in surprise. On the 5ch Geino/Sports News Plus thread, the discussion turned to the gap in difficulty between Waseda and Rikkyo for Hatori’s generation, and how unusual it is to pass Poli-Sci/Econ while failing Rikkyo, with many commenters reminiscing about the private-university exam landscape of that era.

    Freelance announcer Shinichi Hatori (55) appeared on the October 11 broadcast of BS-TBS’s “Sekiguchi Hiroshi no Sannin Yoreba” (Sundays at noon), where he revealed the name of a school that had rejected him during his university entrance exams.

    He appeared as a guest alongside his senior at Nippon TV, freelance announcer Kazuo Tokumitsu. The show’s host, Hiroshi Sekiguchi, and Tokumitsu are both Rikkyo University graduates, and since Rikkyo has produced many celebrated announcers — including Minomonta, Shinobu Oosaka, and Masaru Doi — Hatori remarked admiringly, “Rikkyo is amazing.”

    Hatori is himself a graduate of Waseda’s School of Political Science and Economics, and Tokumitsu said, “That’s a very prestigious school.” Hatori then suddenly confessed, “Actually, I failed to get into Rikkyo,” prompting both of them to exclaim in surprise — “Seriously?!” and “Wait, really?!”

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:34
    Back in the day the gap between Waseda and Rikkyo wasn't as big as it is now.
    Poli-Sci/Econ being amazing is one thing, but I feel like Rikkyo itself used to be a lot better too.
    82AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:42
    Re: #5
    Watching stuff like Wakatte TV (a YouTube channel that dissects exam difficulty/hensachi), you really learn that a university's hensachi varies wildly by year, department, and early/late admission round.
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:36
    During the private-university bubble, tons of students couldn't even get into the 'Daitoakoku' schools (slang for the bottom-tier private-university group) straight out of high school.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:35
    Re: #7
    That was the dankai-junior generation — the baby boomers' kids — when the age cohort hit 2 million people.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:37
    Underneath this whole conversation there's this undertone of looking down on Rikkyo as the 'dumber' school, isn't there.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:40
    Re: #9
    Now that you mention it, yeah. In this compliance-obsessed era, I wonder if it's even okay to say there's a gap between two private schools like that.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:40
    Re: #9
    There's definitely some of that. Though if a Rikkyo grad heard this, they'd probably be thrilled anyway.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:38
    When I took my exams, I applied to 12 private-school/department combos, and the only one I got into was Waseda's First Literature department.
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:39
    Re: #1
    Well, Rikkyo back in 'Bird's' day (a pun on Hatori's name, which contains 鳥/'bird' — i.e. his own exam-taking years) was way harder to get into than Waseda is now.
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:55
    Re: #14
    Even now, pretty much anyone can get into Waseda.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:40
    Rikkyo straight out of high school vs. Waseda after one year as a ronin (repeat examinee) — which is actually better?
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:44
    Re: #16
    Back in 'Bird's' day, being a ronin was totally normal, so Waseda wins hands down.
    97AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:15
    Re: #16
    These days, Waseda after one year as a ronin, for sure.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:42
    Thanks to some weird YouTubers, a lot of people are under the illusion that MARCH schools (Meiji/Aoyama/Rikkyo/Chuo/Hosei) are easy to get into, but 30 years ago they were tough enough that even people who'd passed Waseda or Keio couldn't necessarily get in.
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:08
    Re: #20
    But thanks to the Tokyo media, there are also plenty of people who hype up MARCH while looking down on regional national universities.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:51
    These days it's 'Waseda-Keio-Sophia,' but in the Showa 30s-40s (roughly the late 1950s-60s) it was 'Waseda-Keio-Rikkyo.'
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:56
    Re: #28
    By 'Bird's' era, it wasn't even just Waseda-Keio-Sophia — there was barely any gap between Rikkyo, Meiji, and Aoyama Gakuin either.
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:55
    FYI, back then Waseda's Poli-Sci/Econ department actually outranked Todai's Humanities III (lol).
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:10
    Re: #34
    IIRC math was an elective for Poli-Sci/Econ, not a requirement, and besides, you can't directly compare hensachi between national/public and private universities in the first place.
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:21
    Re: #34
    For some reason Waseda's Poli-Sci/Econ was considered top-tier among Japan's humanities/social-science departments — it had a reputation for being brutally hard.
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 19:59
    Hiranuma High School is actually closer to Yokohama Station than Suiran High School is.
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:08
    Re: #42
    Suiran used to be Yokohama Boys' Middle School No. 2; Hiranuma used to be Yokohama Girls' High School No. 1.
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:02
    I took the Rikkyo exam at the Ikebukuro campus, and my chair was so rickety and badly put together that it drove me crazy. I told the proctor, but they just said 'deal with it' — and I ended up failing.

    That same year, Meiji's entrance exam had about three times the usual number of proctors because of the Nabeyakan exam-impersonation scandal from the year before (a comedian who'd taken an exam in someone else's place).
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:23
    Re: #44
    Apparently even Nabeyakan's scandal only came out because of a whistleblower — kind of wild.
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:03
    Comedy duo Cream Stew:
    Shinya Ueda: dropped out of Waseda University's School of Education, Japanese Language & Literature
    Teppei Arita: dropped out of Rikkyo University's Faculty of Law
    72AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:31
    Re: #45
    Arita actually got into Meiji straight out of high school, but Ueda talked him into becoming a ronin instead.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:08
    Passing Poli-Sci/Econ but failing Rikkyo really is rare. I wonder what percentage of people that happens to.
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:13
    Re: #46
    If you spend all your time cramming for Waseda Poli-Sci/Econ and only squeeze in Rikkyo as an afterthought, yeah, you'll fail it.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:15
    Re: #46
    About 40%, I'd guess.
    54AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:14
    If he's 55, his exam years must have been brutal. If he got into Waseda Poli-Sci/Econ, he probably also tried for Todai as his national-university pick and failed. But if he failed Rikkyo straight out of high school, then became a ronin and got into Waseda Poli-Sci/Econ, that says he really buckled down during his ronin year. Honestly, schools like Rikkyo, Meiji, and Hosei were the kind of places top prep-school kids wouldn't even glance at back then.
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:17
    Waseda and Keio have basically turned into regional/local universities now, so just by being located in the Kanto area, even a high school like Hiranuma has seen a bit of an uptick in Waseda/Keio acceptances compared to before.
    Hiranuma High School, 2026 results: Waseda 24, Keio 14.
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:19
    Re: #59
    Since the school-district restrictions were lifted, Koryo's popularity has probably dropped while Hiranuma's has risen.
    61AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:19
    Re: #59
    Since the school-district restrictions were lifted, Koryo's popularity has probably dropped while Hiranuma's has risen.
    85AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:45
    Back then the number of examinees was enormous and the ronin rate was sky-high, so even at the Waseda/Keio level, one small slip-up could get your legs swept out from under you by a MARCH school.
    94AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:08
    Re: #85
    Really? My impression is that back then there was a pretty big gap between Waseda/Keio and MARCH. Passing Waseda/Keio but slipping on a MARCH school in the same exam season seems pretty rare to me.
    103AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:20
    Re: #85
    Yeah, if you didn't specifically prep for them, MARCH schools could be risky. There were even efficiency-obsessed types who flipped that around — only studying for, say, Chuo's non-Law faculties or Hosei's Tama campus, aiming purely to land a MARCH acceptance.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The backdrop to this topic is the fierce competition in private-university entrance exams during the 1980s-90s, driven by the surge in exam-takers from the baby boomers’ children (the “dankai junior” generation). Before the “Waseda-Keio-Sophia” grouping became standard, there was a period when people said “Waseda-Keio-Rikkyo” instead, and some commenters on the thread noted that there was barely any difficulty gap between Rikkyo, Meiji, and Aoyama Gakuin at the time. Opinions were divided on just how rare it is to pass Waseda’s Poli-Sci/Econ department while failing Rikkyo — one guess put it around 40%, though that’s not backed by any verified statistics. It’s also worth keeping in mind that hensachi scores can’t be directly compared between national/public and private universities, or across different departments, years, or early/late exam schedules — so judging the difficulty of that era by today’s ‘MARCH’ framework can be misleading.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports News Plus) thread “Announcer Shinichi Hatori Confesses the University That Rejected Him — Tokumitsu Kazuo Stunned: ‘Seriously?!’.”

  • Steam’s concurrent users hit an all-time high of 43.5 million — 5ch: ‘Japanese users are only about 1 million’

    On October 11, it was reported that the concurrent user count on Valve’s PC gaming platform “Steam” hit an all-time high of approximately 43.5 million. On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, this figure sparked replies analyzing it from various angles — the proportion of Japanese- and Chinese-language users among PC gamers, estimates of active user counts, and comparisons with home consoles. At the same time, posts mocking Nintendo and Sony users were also prominent, giving the thread a mixed atmosphere of number-crunching and console-war trolling.

    On October 11, the concurrent user count on Valve’s PC game distribution platform “Steam”

    hit an all-time high of “approximately 43.5 million.”

    Source: news.nicovideo.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:05
    The exodus from PlayStation is going smoothly. Nice.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:09
    Re: #2
    Probably a lot of users who never touched PlayStation to begin with
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:10
    Re: #2
    More like an exodus from consoles in general?
    Smartphones + PC are just too strong
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:08
    Active users must be around 400 million or so
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:13
    Re: #4
    When concurrent users were 24.8 million, active users were 120 million
    so active users now would be around 300 million?

    https://www.4gamer.net/games/038/G003821/20210114024/
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:27
    Re: #14
    I thought it'd be like 10x consoles, but I guess it's not that much
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:09
    Steam has no boxed copies and no shelf presence in stores, it'll go under any day now, oink (mocking oink-sound used to deride a claim)
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:15
    Re: #7
    Pretty seriously, a lot of Japanese companies used to have the attitude of
    'PC gaming is garbage — even on Steam it's all piracy hell anyway!'
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:12
    But apparently the PC-haters (パソニシ, anti-PC trolls) don't even own a PC themselves
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:15
    Re: #13
    There goes 'Barrier' pathetically posting his wishful thinking again (recurring poster nickname)
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:20
    Re: #13
    Nice try nitpicking about monitor arms, 'Barrier'
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:14
    Don't they ever put out a country-by-country breakdown?
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:16
    Re: #15
    Not sales figures, but you can officially check download volume by country
    Click on a country

    Steam Download Stats
    https://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:20
    Re: #19
    Oh, something like this existed
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:18
    Re: #18
    Show us that gaming PC you're so proud of
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:21
    Huh? Nintendo Switch has 160 million concurrent users though?
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:22
    With full DLSS5 support coming soon, as long as you've got an RTX 5070 Ti or better you're set
    Smooth 4K, mods, indie games, eroge (adult games), tons of AAA titles
    Plus there are sales too — the only reason to keep a console around is a Switch 2 for Zelda
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:25
    Re: #27
    Don't need garbage like the Switch 2
    PC alone is enough for me
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:30
    What percentage are Chinese users, I wonder
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:32
    Re: #38
    Apparently 21%
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:32
    Re: #38
    Don't know the user count, but in terms of download volume,
    China alone accounted for 460 million GB in a week, #1 in the world,
    so it's probably quite a lot?
    45AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:33
    Re: #38
    Ah, there's a breakdown by language share after all
    Looking at that:

    Simplified Chinese 31.39%, up 7.42%

    A 7% jump is way too much… what happened there
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:32
    How many of those are Japanese?
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:36
    Re: #43
    Looking at the Japanese-language usage rate, it's 2.4%, so going purely by 'concurrent users' that's roughly 1 million
    That's actually already a big jump
    It used to be around 0.9% back in the day
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:41
    Steam's concurrent user count keeps rising, and the share of Japanese users is climbing right along with it
    It's probably already beating PlayStation in terms of active users
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:44
    Re: #48
    When you think that right this very moment,
    a million people across Japan are playing games on Steam,
    I'd say it's even surpassed Nintendo
    51AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:46
    Re: #48
    Even Chinese games popular on PS5 (like NTE, Wuthering Waves)
    and Umamusume are now playable on Steam too
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:43
    PlayStation market >> Steam market > Switch market
    That's just how it is

    Steam predicted to make over $20 billion this year for first time ever
    https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/steam-predicted-to-make-over-20-billion-this-year-for-first-time-ever-3414952/
    Steam is projected to top $20 billion in annual revenue for the first time ever

    Steam: $20 billion (¥3 trillion)
    PlayStation FY26: $31.1 billion (¥4.6857 trillion)


    By the way, this Valve revenue estimate is also a gross total figure
    77AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:06
    Weird, considering global PC shipments are declining…
    78AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:08
    Re: #77
    Well, PCs aren't perishable groceries you consume every day…
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:09
    Re: #77
    Roughly 1.5 billion PCs have been sold over the past 5 years
    It's not like 'it's been a year since I bought mine, time for a new one!'

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Steam’s concurrent user count was only around 7 million back in 2013, but it has expanded rapidly over the past decade to reach 43.5 million this time. This figure simply means “the number of people logged in at a given moment,” which is a different metric from monthly active users or cumulative hardware shipments. In the thread, one comment claimed Nintendo Switch has “160 million concurrent users,” but this conflates cumulative unit sales with concurrent user counts — the two numbers are not comparable. Regarding the country/language breakdown, Steam itself does not publish official country-level statistics for concurrent users; the Chinese- and Japanese-language ratios raised in the thread are merely estimates drawn from separate data such as download volume or language-setting share. Because the raw numbers are so large, it’s easy to come away with an impression bigger than reality, so it’s worth reading them with these differences between metrics in mind.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Great News] Steam’s concurrent user count hits an all-time high of “approximately 43.5 million”.”

  • Man in his 30s: ‘I have no hobbies’ — 5ch says ‘Raising kids basically IS a hobby’

    A thread where a man in his 30s complained that he “can’t find a hobby” drew a flood of replies from the Live Reporting board on 5channel.

    Some argued that being too busy raising kids to have hobbies of his own was met with “child-rearing is basically a hobby,” while others pushed back, saying that confuses parenting — a basic responsibility — with a hobby. Meanwhile, posters kept listing real hobbies they actually spend money and time on, like golf, running, tailored suits, car washing, and gardening, sparking a wider debate over what “hobby” even means.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:50
    Still going on about fashion past 30 is lame too, honestly
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:51
    If you're a decent 30-something, isn't raising kids basically your hobby?
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:58
    Re: #4
    This.
    Also, once your kid starts a lesson like soccer, you end up playing soccer with them too — your own hobbies end up shaped by your kids.
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:51
    Feel that.
    Still going on about what's trendy past 30 is kind of childish
    about as cringe as a guy past 30 still going on about his love life
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:51
    I got into golf and trail running after turning 30.
    Costs way too much money, can't help it.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:52
    Taking the kids out eats up your time.
    Other than that, you buy a house or condo and get into fixing that up.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:52
    Golf's great.
    Switched to a TaylorMade SIM2 driver and now I'm hitting 270 yards.
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:52
    Just go to the gym, spend your time and money on your health.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:53
    Gateball (a croquet-like lawn sport big with Japanese retirees), haiku, bonsai — these classic senior hobbies have genuinely died out, huh.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:54
    Re: #15
    Haiku and tanka are kind of having a moment, in a way.
    100AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:30
    Re: #15
    They play gateball every week at my local park.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:53
    It's the opposite.
    Once you hit 30 and everyone around you stops caring how they look, a guy who's still into fashion ends up looking cool.
    Feel sorry for your kids, honestly
    having an uncool dad really sucks for them.
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:00
    Re: #16
    Totally get that mindset. The older you get, the more you should keep your grooming and style on point.
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:27
    Re: #16
    Same here, I've been trying to get into Korean fashion lately — picking up stuff from MUSINSA and Matin Kim.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:54
    Whatever you do, people your age are just gonna one-up you over kids and salary anyway, so just do what you like.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:54
    Golf as a hobby? Only weirdos are into that.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:55
    Raising kids.

    Your time goes into your kid's baseball, basketball, dance, whatever.
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:12
    Re: #25
    Calling child-rearing your hobby is kind of messed up though.
    Raising your kids is just something you're supposed to do — the real question is what you do with your own time on top of that.
    76AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:14
    Re: #73
    Supporting what your kid wants to do?
    Isn't that a hobby in itself?
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:15
    Re: #73
    A lot of people look for things they can actually enjoy together with their kids.
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:58
    Me: "My hobby is spending money on sharp suits…"

    Am I the weird one here?
    FYI I'm in sales.
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:05
    Re: #31
    Same here.
    My Dormeuil made-to-order suit ran me 230,000 yen.
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 20:59
    Mine's washing my car.
    Cheap hobby.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:00
    Re: #37
    You polishing the engine bay and spark plugs too?
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:00
    Early morning running became my hobby.
    It's stupidly fun.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:00
    Re: #38
    Did anything else change for you?
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:04
    Right now I'm decluttering the garden.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:06
    Re: #49
    Is that even a hobby…? 🤔
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:10
    How come pets never come up in the hobby threads on NanG (the "Live Reporting G" board)?
    You guys don't have dogs or anything?
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:11
    Re: #66
    I've had a huntsman spider trapped in my bathroom for about a month — does that count as a pet?
    85AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:20
    Now that my kids don't need constant hands-on care anymore,
    my days off are way too boring.
    91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 21:24
    Re: #85
    I'm weight training for my future grandkids' sake.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The central sticking point in this thread was a definitional one: can raising kids really be called a “hobby”? Those who framed parenting as a kind of hobby were pointing to how a child’s extracurricular activities end up reshaping a parent’s own interests and pursuits, while those who disagreed argued from the premise that parenting is simply a baseline parental duty, whereas a hobby is something you freely choose to enjoy for yourself. In other words, the two sides were talking past each other because they never agreed on what counts as a “hobby” in the first place. The flood of examples like golf, running, suits, and car washing can also be read as a generational pattern: men in their 30s tend to have more slack in their wallets than in their free time, so their hobbies naturally skew toward the kind that cost money.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (NanG) thread “[Sad News] Men over 30 can’t find a hobby lololololololololololololololololololol”.