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  • Monthly Living Expenses by Household Income: 5ch Reacts, ‘Wait, Isn’t That More Than the Income?’

    On 5ch’s News Express+ board, data on monthly living expenses by household income sparked discussion. Households earning under 2 million yen a year reportedly spend 173,000 yen a month — more than their annual income would suggest — while households earning 15 million yen or more spend 591,000 yen, highlighting a stark gap.

    In response to the question “isn’t it strange that living costs exceed income?”, commenters pointed to pensioners drawing down savings and differences in Engel’s coefficient (the share of spending that goes to food).

    (…)

    Key points

    – The average monthly living expense for two-or-more-person households nationwide is 314,000 yen.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    How the heck do you spend 500,000 yen in a month?
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    Re: #5
    Household income of 15 million yen or more.
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #5
    This survey doesn't even list household size, so it's kind of a garbage study…
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:10
    – Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen
    That's gotta be fake. Welfare recipients (namapo) live on under 100,000 yen a month, don't they?
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Re: #14
    Probably rising utility and rent costs. I'm in Saitama, and rent has shot up brutally this year. I've seriously considered moving from Saitama City to Kawagoe.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:15
    Hardly anyone makes under 10 million yen a year these days lol

    28 years old, 185cm tall, 25 million yen a year — got a problem with that?
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Re: #24
    Sorry, you win. Started at 6 million fresh out of school, now in my fifth year making 7.5 million. Guess a college with a hensachi (deviation score, Japan's standardized measure of academic difficulty) of 65 just doesn't cut it.
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:00
    Re: #24
    I've been a JRA (Central Horse Racing) jockey for 40 years — I lose on age (57) and height (170cm), but my prize money and riding fees this year might edge out yours a bit.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    A household income of 2 million yen a year but spending 170,000 yen a month? That doesn't add up.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    Re: #27
    40,000 yen of that is probably from consumer loans…
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:58
    Re: #27
    Probably pensioners drawing down their savings.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Under-2-million households spending 173,000 yen a month
    173,000 x 12 = 2,076,000

    Wait, huh?
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #34
    That's probably just living expenses lol, no taxes included lolol
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Isn't this way lower than other countries? Japan doesn't grow because it doesn't have enough ultra-rich people.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    Re: #36
    But Japan's ultra-rich don't spend their money anyway.
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #36
    So more hyper-rich people supposedly means more growth — but growth of what, exactly?
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:25
    Re: #36
    By that logic the Arab states should be the most developed nations around. And if you're going to claim they are, then why isn't any Arab country in the G7?
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Food: 30,000 yen a month
    Cigarettes: 15,000 yen
    Utilities: just under 15,000 yen
    Own my home outright
    (´・ω・`)
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Re: #42
    Property tax… where'd that go… phone/internet bill? Subscriptions? And why are your utilities so cheap?
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    For under 2 million a year, I'd guess it's more like 100,000 yen a month.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:26
    Re: #46
    Yeah, if you average it out including health insurance and national pension, it comes to about 100,000 yen.
    (´・ω・`)
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Re: #46
    With a household income of 2 million yen, it's basically one of two options: rent in the 30,000-yen range and 130,000 yen for everything else, or rent in the 60,000-yen range and everything else in the low 100,000s. Because if you try to keep non-rent spending under 100,000 yen, there's almost nothing left for food. That's the reality at the bottom. No wonder people can't afford books, let alone a newspaper or NHK fees. And when this becomes society's core demographic, that's when you start hearing 'the earth is flat,' 'vaccines make people crazy,' Ministry of Finance conspiracy theories, or 'the JAL crash was a cover-up.'
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    The median household income is probably around 4 million yen.
    93AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #91
    Think about Japan's average age… most people are past 10 million by then, and plenty are past 15 million too.
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Re: #91
    For the child-rearing generation it's 8 million yen. It's just that there are so many retired pensioners dragging the average down.
    184AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:31
    Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen

    Wait, isn't that more than the annual income?
    189AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:34
    Re: #184
    Pensioners drawing down their savings.
    209AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #184
    Their savings rate is like -60%.
    195AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:39
    – Under 2 million yen: 173,000 yen
    – 2-2.5 million yen: 192,000 yen ← up to here is the range where national-pension retirees draw down savings
    – 2.5-3 million yen: 216,000 yen
    – 3-3.5 million yen: 241,000 yen
    – 3.5-4 million yen: 260,000 yen
    – 4-4.5 million yen: 265,000 yen
    – 4.5-5 million yen: 279,000 yen
    – 5-5.5 million yen: 292,000 yen
    – 5.5-6 million yen: 298,000 yen
    – 6-6.5 million yen: 300,000 yen
    – 6.5-7 million yen: 315,000 yen
    – 7-7.5 million yen: 319,000 yen
    – 7.5-8 million yen: 318,000 yen
    – 8-9 million yen: 350,000 yen ← average for the child-rearing generation, includes added child-rearing costs
    – 9-10 million yen: 366,000 yen
    – 10-12.5 million yen: 432,000 yen ← for child-rearing households, this also includes private middle-school exam prep costs
    – 12.5-15 million yen: 467,000 yen
    – 15 million yen or more: 591,000 yen
    197AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Re: #195
    Actually, the average spending for a 3-person household is around 300,000 yen, so the average for the child-rearing generation is probably more like the 6-6.5 million yen bracket.
    203AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #197
    https://www.bk.mufg.jp/column/others/b0079.html
    https://www.bk.mufg.jp/column/others/img/b0079_img05.jpg
    This is from 2023 statistics.
    6-6.5 million yen? (ヾノ・∀・`) no way, no way
    223AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:56
    For the 15-million-yen-plus bracket, average income is 19 million yen. Consumption spending is 590,000 yen, of which food is 130,000 yen (Engel's coefficient 22%), transport/communication is 100,000 yen, education/entertainment is 70,000 yen, and other miscellaneous expenses are 110,000 yen.
    236AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:58
    Re: #223
    ● For reference, the 2-million-yen households have an Engel's coefficient of 35%. They're scraping by just to eat.
    252AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:08
    Re: #223
    The average annual income for households under 2 million yen is 1.53 million yen. Monthly consumption spending is 170,000 yen, food is 60,000 yen (Engel's coefficient 35%), utilities/water are 20,000 yen, transport/communication is 17,000 yen, education/language study is 15,000 yen, and other miscellaneous expenses are 22,000 yen.
    232AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:57
    Does 'living expenses' even include food?
    237AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:59
    Re: #232
    Well, obviously.
    238AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:59
    Re: #232
    Originally it's just 'consumption spending' being called 'living expenses.'

    Background and Key Points

    The figures come from Japan’s Family Income and Expenditure Survey (家計調査), run by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, which tracks two-or-more-person households by annual income bracket. It reports gross consumption spending, not just visible cash income, and it lumps together very different households within the same bracket: a working single mother, a couple in their 30s, and an 80-year-old retired couple can all fall into “under 2 million yen a year” despite having nothing else in common. The 314,000-yen national average cited in the piece is the same survey’s overall two-or-more-person figure, useful as a benchmark against which both the bottom and top brackets look extreme.

    Where the thread actually diverged was on whether the “under 2 million yen households spend 173,000 yen a month” line is even plausible. One camp treated it as a data artifact, comparing it unfavorably to Japan’s welfare (seikatsu hogo) minimum, which can leave recipients living on well under 100,000 yen monthly. The other camp, which won out by the later posts with sourced figures, argued this bracket is dominated by pension-income retirees who are deliberately drawing down savings rather than earning enough to cover spending — a well-documented and normal pattern in Japanese retirement finance.

    What the thread never states outright is that this is a household-count survey, not a size- or age-adjusted one: it doesn’t separate single-elderly, single working-age, or family households, so bracket-to-bracket comparisons of “spending vs. income” are structurally misleading rather than evidence of anything alarming.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Monthly Living Expenses by Household Income, Latest Data: High-Income Households Top ¥590,000 a Month”.

  • Canada Signals Closer EU Ties — “Might as Well Join,” Some Say

    Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announced that talks aimed at strengthening economic and security partnership with the EU — the world’s second-largest economic bloc — would begin this fall. On Lemmy’s European community, the news was welcomed, and someone half-jokingly suggested that Canada might as well just join the EU outright, sparking a debate over the pros and cons of EU federalization. The thread eventually veered off into a tangent about whether Canadian cities could ever break free from car-dependent infrastructure.

    Canadian PM Mark Carney: “Starting this fall, we will begin full-scale talks to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership with the EU, the world’s second-largest economic bloc.”

    Source: streamable.com / original clip here

    3Anonymous2026-08-25 19:47
    Can't wait! In times as rough as these, having a partner you can actually trust is such a relief.
    4Anonymous2026-08-25 20:49
    I doubt it'll actually happen, but imagine if Canada joined the EU and the US-Canada border suddenly had a row of EU flags along it. That'd be hilarious.
    25Anonymous2026-08-26 06:57
    Re: #4
    Seems like at least some Canadians are on board (link to related post). Honestly, I'm surprised how positive the reaction was. That said, I still think Canada joining would be an obstacle to the EU ever becoming a single federal state.
    29Anonymous2026-08-26 07:07
    Re: #25
    I don't think the EU itself is even ready to become a federation yet. Personally, though, I'd like to see it happen.
    32Anonymous2026-08-26 07:13
    Re: #25
    You say "Canada joining would be an obstacle to the EU becoming a single federal state," but is that even the EU's end goal in the first place?
    5Anonymous2026-08-25 19:49
    Europe needs more allies. Right now it looks too weak-kneed to stand up to the US. The more capitalist democracies band together, the less anyone has to kowtow to that orange bully.
    12Anonymous2026-08-25 20:10
    Re: #5
    Nah, there's no point talking to someone you can't trust. Look at the negotiations with Putin right before the invasion of Ukraine — he promised he "wouldn't invade" and then did exactly that. Total waste of time and energy. I think the EU right now is getting what it wants by keeping its head down. If Trump is that easy to manage, might as well use it to your advantage.
    6Anonymous2026-08-25 21:12
    By being the loudest, most belligerent nuisance at the international picnic, America is doing everyone else the favor of bringing them together.
    7Anonymous2026-08-26 06:22
    Re: #20
    Just change the urban areas then, genius.
    9Anonymous2026-08-26 00:35
    If you want to be more like Europe, why not convert some of that car-centric infrastructure into pedestrian- and bike-friendly stuff?
    20Anonymous2026-08-26 01:13
    Re: #9
    Our country's population density is only 5% of Europe's. I'd love to make infrastructure more pedestrian-friendly, but it's just not realistic for maybe half the country. Give it another 200 years and maybe things will change.
    33Anonymous2026-08-26 11:18
    Re: #20
    Might be surprising, but that actually makes it easier to lay rail lines, not harder.
    8Anonymous2026-08-26 06:09
    Re: #20
    Nobody's saying build a subway in the Arctic Circle. Everyone lives in cities. Toronto's population density is 4,400 people per square km, which isn't that far off from Stockholm's 5,300. Don't fall for car-culture propaganda — this is doable if there's the will.
    10Anonymous2026-08-25 19:56
    Trump is the best thing that's happened to Europe in ages. Not that I'm praising the leaky-diaper orange man himself, of course.
    14Anonymous2026-08-25 20:03
    Re: #10
    I think he's turned out to be the best thing for plenty of countries outside the US too…
    37Anonymous2026-08-26 08:51
    Re: #10
    Weird as it sounds, same goes for Putin. He's sped up the shift to green tech and triggered a massive military buildup to counter Russian imperialism.
    11Anonymous2026-08-26 06:27
    Re: #20
    That's total nonsense. Just think about it for five seconds. You think Canadians are evenly spread out across the whole country? No — most of them live in urban areas. The laws heavily favor car infrastructure and are blatantly stacked against pedestrians. Improvement is absolutely possible, and anyone saying "can't be done, density's too low" is either a car-industry lobbyist or just parroting one.
    16Anonymous2026-08-26 05:32
    Re: #40
    You'd want studded tires for riding on frozen roads. But it's not like you have to bike every single day — the fact that it's a viable option at all is great in itself.
    21Anonymous2026-08-26 06:11
    Re: #40
    Doesn't Europe have cold places too?
    27Anonymous2026-08-26 06:31
    Re: #40
    Oulu in Finland is snowed in for most of the year and people still bike around like it's nothing. It really comes down to infrastructure.
    40Anonymous2026-08-26 02:17
    Re: #9
    Also (at least for now) it gets brutally cold here! I've wiped out more than once trying to bike on icy roads.
    18Anonymous2026-08-25 20:09
    Diversification is a good thing — not just for capitalism. Everyone's trying to find ways to grow around the US, not through it.
    19Anonymous2026-08-26 09:35
    This is the "our friendship with America is over, the EU is our new best friend" meme, basically.
    22Anonymous2026-08-26 13:48
    Sounds like a good idea to me. But Europe's leaders need to grow a spine.
    23Anonymous2026-08-25 21:02
    What kind of tools are you looking for? If it's hand tools, Gray Tools is solid — made in Canada.
    24Anonymous2026-08-25 22:51
    Re: #2
    We love hockey over here too.
    26Anonymous2026-08-26 07:21
    Re: #32
    For a federalist like me, yeah. What the EU should ultimately be is something for EU citizens to debate and decide among themselves, but personally I support a federalist approach and think I can make a solid case for it.
    30Anonymous2026-08-26 07:08
    Re: #29
    It's just not ready yet, that's all.
    34Anonymous2026-08-26 13:55
    Re: #33
    Even so, you'd need to build and maintain rail lines running not just tens but hundreds of kilometers between major cities, which is insanely expensive. And there's a smaller passenger base and tax base to support it.
    36Anonymous2026-08-26 11:25
    This is probably going to take a while though. Just look at how long it took the EU-Mercosur agreement to come into force.
    38Anonymous2026-08-26 11:21
    Re: #40
    (video link) That's because you're wet. Finnish kids are tougher, so that's not an issue for them.
    39Anonymous2026-08-26 06:45
    Re: #16
    In my experience, riding on icy roads with studded tires actually feels more comfortable and grippier than riding over wet fallen leaves in autumn. It's surprising how much of a difference studded tires make, and you get used to it faster than you'd expect.
    41Anonymous2026-08-26 10:23
    Re: #21
    Actually, not really. Thanks to the Atlantic currents, it's known for being relatively mild, if anything.

    Background and Key Points

    Canada and the EU already have a deep economic relationship on paper: the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) has been provisionally applied since 2017, eliminating most tariffs between the two. What Carney is proposing goes further, into a “security and economic partnership” — likely modeled on the EU’s post-Brexit deals with countries like Japan or South Korea, or possibly something closer to the informal defense-industrial cooperation frameworks the EU has floated with non-member democracies. The subtext, which posters picked up on immediately, is Trump-era tariff pressure pushing Ottawa to diversify away from reliance on the US market.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t over whether closer ties are good — nearly everyone agreed they are — but over what “joining the EU” would even mean for the bloc’s own trajectory. One camp (>>25, >>26) treated EU federalization as an implicit long-term goal that a geographically detached, non-European member would complicate; another (>>32, >>29) pushed back that federalization isn’t even a settled EU objective yet, so the premise doesn’t hold.

    What none of the posters mentioned is that Canadian EU membership isn’t just practically remote, it’s legally impossible under the treaties as written: Article 49 of the Treaty on European Union restricts membership to “any European State.” Canada could join the European Economic Area or negotiate CETA-plus arrangements, but formal accession would require rewriting the EU’s foundational treaty language, not just winning a vote. Readers unfamiliar with EU structure may take the “might as well join” framing more literally than the thread intended — it was always a jokey hypothetical, not a live policy option.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Lemmy c/europe) thread “Canada’s PM Carney: "This fall we will begin intense discussions with the European Union, the world’s second-largest economy, to build a much stronger and deeper economic and security partnership".”

  • Yuta Nakayama Set for Serbia Move — 5ch Reacts: ‘But He’s on 300 Million Yen at Machida?’

    Machida Zelvia (J1) defender Yuta Nakayama (29) has left the team ahead of a transfer to Serbian giants Red Star Belgrade, it was announced on the 26th. The transfer fee is estimated at around 180 million yen.

    Reactions on the forum were split over the move: some questioned the football logic (“why go out of your way for a so-so player like Nakayama?”), others lamented him walking away from such a sweet deal (“he’s making 300 million yen a year at Machida”), and still others worried about unpaid wages and tax issues.

    Sankei Sports, 2026/08/26 17:48

    Machida Zelvia (J1) announced on the 26th that former Japan national team defender Yuta Nakayama (29) has left the team to handle the paperwork and preparations for a transfer. The club says it will make an official announcement once things are finalized.

    According to Serbian and other European media, the move is all but confirmed to be to Red Star Belgrade, a powerhouse club in Serbia’s top flight. The transfer fee is believed to be around 1.1 million euros (roughly 180 million yen), with the final details of the contract reportedly being ironed out.

    Source: sanspo.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:58
    With so many players out there in the world, why on earth would they go out of their way to sign a so-so player like Nakayama?
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    This club's basically the go-to spot for Korean players, isn't it?
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Re: #1
    The transfer fee's way too cheap.
    Can't they just refuse to sell him for that price?
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    Re: #12
    He's over 30, so a multi-year deal is a risk.
    Weird that they'd even pay a fee to get him.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Re: #12
    Must be written into his contract —
    something like 'pay up if an offer comes from abroad.'
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Season just started and he's already leaving for personal reasons, lol
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:05
    The J.League's a higher level than Serbia anyway.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:09
    Re: #14
    Obviously.
    J1's ranked like 13th in the world, top tier stuff.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:07
    If it's Red Star he's going to, honestly feels like staying at Machida would've been the better move.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:08
    Sounds like he wants back into the national team, but he's not exactly young anymore — no way that happens from a Serbian club.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:10
    My only impression of the Serbian league is that they don't pay salaries.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:11
    Wonder what Mikić would've said about this one.

    Suzuki-shishō (nickname, 'the master') was there back in the day too — brings back memories.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:16
    Re: #20
    Maybe he just admired Stojković and wanted to play in Serbia.
    His career's winding down anyway, so that's a legit choice. Though it does feel like it takes him further from the national team.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:11
    I can already picture the future where he's fighting over unpaid wages.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    He won't get picked for the national team from Machida.
    And he won't step up playing in Serbia either.
    Should've just stayed put at Machida.
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:14
    Serbia isn't really a league you go to at the tail end of your career,
    and to step up from there to a major league you'd need Golden Boot-level numbers like Asano put up.
    If he wants back on the national team, staying at Machida and shining whenever the domestic-based guys get called up was probably his only real shot.
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    Re: #1
    Red Star, Partizan —
    both of the Serbian SuperLiga's big two have names that scream 'former communist country.'
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    Nakayama's career peak was that mid-range shot against Brazil at U-22 level.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:15
    These days there's apparently a system where you punch in the type of player a team needs plus the budget, and it pulls up suitable candidates from players worldwide —
    he probably got flagged by something like that.
    Given his age, this is probably his last shot in Europe.
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:17
    He can play center-back, full-back, and defensive mid, he's left-footed, can take free kicks, and has a track record in the Eredivisie, the Championship, and the national team —
    honestly, by any normal logic there should be plenty of demand for a guy like that.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:18
    No dreams to be found in a 'tax league.' (slang for a league players join mainly for the low taxes, not the football)
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Re: #35
    What are you talking about —
    this guy's pulling in 300 million yen a year at Machida.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:27
    Re: #40
    The ones who look down on 'tax leagues' the most are the 'tax leaguers' themselves.
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    Salaries were already low to begin with, and now there's the weak yen on top of it.
    That's why even Eastern Europe is poaching players.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #36
    Machida surely pays the higher salary.
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #36
    He's on 300 million yen at Machida??
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Pretty par for the course with a 'tax league.'
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:29
    Wild.
    He's on 300 million at Machida and an Eastern European club is apparently offering even more than that.
    Poland and the rest of the region must be getting rich.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:31
    Re: #47
    No way they're paying more than that.
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:36
    Rumor has it it's more like 70 million yen.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    Re: #59
    Wait, what happens with taxes at that rate then, lol
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Re: #59
    200 million yen, 3-year deal.
    Though taxes are low in Serbia.
    In Japan isn't the rate like 60% on 300 million?
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:37
    He's got a bunch of national team caps under his belt, so I don't get why he couldn't step up and instead came back down to Machida — must've just been chasing quick cash.
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Re: #61
    Probably to recover from an injury.
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Everyone keeps hyping up Machida's signings, but it's funny — what's impressive is the salaries, not the actual quality of the players.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #69
    Then go beat Machida, lol
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    The transfer fee's being paid in installments over 3 years, and salary payments are often late too.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:10
    Re: #80
    Splitting an already-cheap transfer fee over 3 years, lol
    Doubtful they'll pay the whole thing.

    Background and Key Points

    Machida Zelvia is the J.League club owned by mobile-gaming giant DeNA, whose deep pockets fueled a rapid rise from J2 to J1 in 2024 and a reputation — among rival fans on 5ch — for outspending its results, with commentators here repeating that Machida is known more for salaries than for on-pitch quality. Red Star Belgrade, by contrast, is one of the two dominant clubs in Serbia’s SuperLiga (with rival Partizan) and a genuine continental heavyweight, having won the European Cup in 1991, Yugoslavia’s last before the country’s breakup — a pedigree the thread never brings up despite framing Serbia as a backwater “tax league.”

    The split in the thread isn’t really about whether the move makes sense on paper; it’s between posters questioning the football logic (why pay a fee at all for a 29-year-old squad player) and posters fixated on the money, repeatedly citing an unverified “300 million yen at Machida” figure to argue he’s downgrading financially for a move to a league they associate with delayed wages and low pay.

    What the thread misses is that Japanese club salaries are not publicly disclosed, so the 300-million-yen number circulating is speculation, not reported fact — nobody in the thread cites a source for it. Readers should also know the low, roughly 180-million-yen fee for a full international more likely reflects an exit clause or a player pushing to leave than the market undervaluing him, which the “why so cheap” posts don’t consider.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Machida Zelvia (J1)’s former Japan national team DF Yuta Nakayama leaves the team amid transfer talks — move to Serbian giants Red Star Belgrade looks all but certain.”

  • Giants’ Kai Delivers Go-Ahead Blast, Yakult Drop 5th Straight as Race for 3rd Turns Chaotic — 5ch: ‘That Swing Was Worth ¥300 Million’

    In Central League action on August 26, the Yomiuri Giants defeated the Tokyo Yakult Swallows 5-3, with Takuya Kai’s go-ahead hit in the 8th inning proving to be the deciding run. The loss was Yakult’s fifth in a row, leaving the Central League’s 3rd-through-6th place teams separated by just 1.5 games in a chaotic scramble. The thread lit up over the go-ahead knock from Kai, who had been mired in a .077 batting average this season.

    Giants   0 0 0  0 0 1  0 2 2 |5

    Yakult 2 0 0  0 0 0  0 1 0 |3

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:40
    Giants win again today, and Joa tastes great (o^∀^o) (Joa is a Yakult-brand yogurt drink — the joke: Yakult's baseball team loses, but at least Yakult's dairy products still taste good)
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:40
    Giants win again today, and Satsuraku Hamin tastes great (o^∀^o) (another dairy drink brand, keeping the running joke going)
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Well, when the whole bullpen is uniformly awful like that, you can't help wanting to hurl some abuse
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Kai: 'So… aren't you all gonna apologize now?'
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #10
    Batting .077 with 1 HR this season —
    Kai's got no room to talk
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:21
    Re: #10
    Kai: 'Sorry for not performing up to my contract'
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:25
    Re: #10
    Catcher or not, going hitless practically all the way through August is unacceptable
    Just retire
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Hanging on by a thread
    Scraping by, scraping by, and pulling out the win
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Giants win again today, and Yakult 1000 tastes great (o^∀^o) (Yakult's popular probiotic drink)
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Only 1.5 games separating them!
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:02
    Re: #14
    The fish-men (a jab at Yakult) get left in the dust in head-to-head matchups lol
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Hashigami's in-game managing was pretty rough too, but Yakult's overall darkness outweighed even that
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:42
    Yakult suddenly finding closer material in Walters, a guy who's only ever started games lol
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Go Giants!
    Just steal the pennant outright and get Kyuji fired
    Keep it up!! (Kyuji = Fujikawa Kyuji, Hanshin Tigers manager)
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    There are a lot of Giants fans who owe Kai a dogeza (a full grovel-apology) right about now, aren't there (-_-)
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Guess Kai never let himself go sour and just kept preparing
    In the end it's the veterans you can count on
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Walters is Tuna No. 2 — zero control whatsoever (a nickname mocking wild, no-command pitchers)
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Re: #1

    Pitchers of record
    Win: Giants — Ei Tanaka (2-3, 2 SV)
    Loss: Yakult — Walters (1-4, 0 SV)
    Save: Giants — Martinez (3-3, 36 SV)
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Next thing you know, only 1.5 games behind Hanshin
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Wait, is this actually the start of the Giants winning it all under their interim manager?
    Kai coming through with a clutch hit out of nowhere like that is exactly the kind of thing that happens to championship teams
    Zero hits all season — normally you'd pinch-hit there, but they let him swing anyway and this is what happened
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #28
    If they win the pennant by some fluke, there goes the whole 'Manager Matsui' plan
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Can we please stop it with the fact that this guy — who's basically become the cleanup hitter at this point, hit the go-ahead run yesterday and the go-ahead hit today — still just walks up to the generic 'Hitter's Theme' instead of his own song
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    A home run worth 300 million yen in one swing
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #32
    That's a bit pricey…
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    The race for first is heating up, but the race for 3rd has turned into total chaos
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    The Giants are running through literally every player on their active roster — true team-wide effort
    Hanshin, meanwhile, is a team that simply loses whenever Sato Teruaki and Morishita don't hit
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:49
    Re: #34
    The plan is for Matsui to take over once the new stadium opens in 2032, so he's not getting the job next year regardless
    For now it's said to be either Yoshinobu again or Hara for the umpteenth time
    43AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    Re: #41
    There isn't even going to BE a new stadium lol
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:49
    Back when Yakult was in first place early in the season, there were plenty of people saying 'Yakult's got this year locked up.' No eye for the game whatsoever lol
    Someone posted 'no way Yakult actually wins it,' and people replied 'obviously Yakult's got it, they're just too strong this year' lol
    So embarrassing in hindsight lol
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:55
    Re: #42
    Figured that roster had no chance of holding up all season, and yep, called it exactly
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:02
    Yakult is in serious trouble — at this rate they could end up dead last
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:04
    Re: #66
    Even so, surely not below Hiroshima as they stand now
    79AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:19
    Chunichi ('Chunidora') pulling off an angry underdog upset there~
    83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 22:24
    Re: #79
    Chunichi's strong at home but weak on the road, so they won't survive the Climax Series (Japan's postseason playoff)

    Background and Key Points

    The Central League’s pennant race sits atop a six-team structure where only the top three advance to the postseason Climax Series, so the “3rd through 6th, 1.5 games apart” scramble mentioned here is really a fight for the last playoff berth, not for the title itself — the Giants are chasing Hanshin Tigers for 1st, while Yakult, Chunichi, DeNA, and Hiroshima jockey for the remaining spots. Yakult started the season well enough that some 5ch posters were predicting a title run in the spring, which is why the “no eye for the game” ribbing in the thread lands as retrospective mockery rather than fresh commentary.

    The actual disagreement in the thread wasn’t about the final score — it was about how much weight to put on Takuya Kai’s hit. Kai has been batting .077 all year, so posters split between reading his go-ahead knock as a genuine sign the Giants’ bench players are finally contributing (the “team-wide effort” comment) versus treating it as a fluke that happened to land during a chaotic stretch, not evidence of a turnaround.

    What the thread doesn’t spell out for outsiders is the Giants’ managerial situation driving the joking references to “Matsui” and “Hara.” The team is currently run by an interim manager, with Hideki Matsui long rumored as the eventual choice — but only once Yomiuri’s new stadium opens in 2032, meaning a surprise title run this year wouldn’t actually accelerate that succession plan, contrary to what the joking tone might suggest to an outside reader.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread ‘[Baseball] CL S 3-5 G [8/26] Giants’ Kai hits go-ahead HR, Martinez notches his 248th career save, Yakult drop 5th straight, just 1.5 games separate 3rd through 6th place‘.

  • Ministry Seeks Tax Reform to Curb Speculative Condo Trading

    Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) has reportedly decided to include measures to curb speculative trading of newly built condominiums in its tax reform requests for fiscal year 2027. Currently, properties sold within five years of purchase face a heavy capital gains tax, and tightening this rule appears to be the focus. On 5ch, users traded worries about a repeat of the Heisei-era bubble collapse against claims that the real driving force behind speculative money isn’t Chinese buyers but Taiwanese investors and wealthy Japanese individuals and flippers.

    The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism has decided to include measures to curb soaring prices of newly built condominiums in its fiscal 2027 tax reform requests. The move addresses how speculative condo trading, disconnected from genuine housing demand, has been pushing up real estate prices in urban areas.

    The ministry explained the plan at a Liberal Democratic Party meeting on the 25th. The specifics will be worked out by the ruling coalition’s tax panel by the end of the year. Currently, selling a condo within five years of purchase triggers a heavier capital gains tax.

    Nikkei 2026/08/25

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:45
    Prices are rising so hard that people can't even afford the inheritance tax anymore — these things are destined to become ghost tower condos.
    106AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #6
    Tower condo? Low-rise? If it's in a decent spot, a realtor will lowball-buy it off you, so it'll be fine.
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:47
    Wasn't it stuff exactly like this that caused the bubble to burst last time?
    112AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:51
    Re: #13
    Isn't it different depending on whether you're talking about the buy side versus, more so, the sell side?
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:50
    The tax on real estate profits from sales within 5 years is already 40%, right?
    Are they really raising it further?
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:54
    Re: #23
    If the government hates this situation, they can tax it like old-school income tax rates.
    If people keep getting greedy, I could totally see it hit 90%.
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:57
    Just tax 99% of gains on any sale within 30 years, honestly.
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:01
    Re: #35
    B-but what happens if you end up taking a loss…? (trembling voice)
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:02
    Please don't tell me policies that used to stall out are suddenly speeding up now that Komeito is gone.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:06
    That's exactly why I'm saying this is way too late.
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    It's because Komeito dropped out of the coalition.
    If Komeito still held the MLIT minister post, this never would've happened.
    After all, the main source of speculative money in Tokyo condos is foreign buyers, especially Chinese ones.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:27
    Re: #61
    Okay, but what does any of that have to do with Komeito?
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:28
    Re: #61
    Chinese real estate investment has actually been cooling off since about two years ago.
    Even in a survey done this year, more than half the buyers were Taiwanese.
    Foreigners only make up about 3% of buyers to begin with.
    For high-end properties, the main players are wealthy Japanese individuals and flipping realtors.
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    There are elites at the top who own real estate, so there's no way they'll actually regulate this.
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #97
    Exactly — they sold everything off to Chinese buyers to cash out.
    They've probably already made their exit.
    107AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #97
    Harvesting tax from that would actually make for a decent funding source though.
    122AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    So they'll officially admit there's a real estate bubble,
    but won't admit there's a stock bubble too.
    Both are just being driven up by foreign money though.
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:02
    Re: #122
    A stock bubble doesn't do much to the birthrate,
    but soaring costs of food, clothing, and housing utterly wreck marriage and childbearing for people in their 20s.
    126AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:04
    Re: #122
    Both are just being driven up by foreign money though —
    though at least for the latter, that hasn't really held true lately, has it?
    129AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Is this really going to crash though?
    If it does, maybe a few years out?
    Guess I should start planning a move.
    132AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:07
    Re: #129
    Bubbles burst suddenly, you know.
    Didn't you know that?
    190AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #129
    The government pulled something similar right before the Heisei bubble collapse too.
    By around summer of '89, people who knew real estate prices were about to crash had already sold off and gotten out.
    Then in 1990, the Japanese economy went into full collapse mode.
    146AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:17
    If speculative money pulls out, the elite couples who bought at the peak with joint mortgages will end up underwater on their loans.
    Regulating this now would be a disaster.
    148AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:21
    Re: #146
    What are you even talking about?
    They were able to buy at that price at the time, so it's not 'overpriced' at all — that was the fair market price.
    155AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    Re: #146
    There's no such thing as an elite who buys at the top.
    153AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Population's shrinking and yet real estate keeps skyrocketing, huh.
    160AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #153
    Following Indonesia and Vietnam, the Chinese Communist Party will suddenly start restricting outbound travel.
    Japan's China-driven real estate bubble will pop just as suddenly too.
    Just watch.
    161AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:30
    Re: #153
    Population's shrinking and yet prices keep rising, see?
    171AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:39
    Seriously, stop this…
    Last time, this exact move led to 35 years of stagnation.

    China's doing the same thing — surpassing the US in cutting-edge fields like AI, robotics, and aviation, while its property-driven domestic demand collapses. It's becoming the world's top industrial power even as the nation itself declines.
    177AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:41
    Re: #171
    That trauma is exactly why they keep reacting too late on everything.
    184AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Re: #171
    China's basically put into practice the theory that sacrificing ordinary citizens is no big deal —
    they can handle real estate dying off just fine.
    You can't judge them by Western common sense.
    182AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    This is looking like it's only going to climb even more.
    I bought a condo in Shibaura back when prices crashed after the Great East Japan Earthquake, taking out a brutal 40 million yen loan.
    The same type of unit now sells for over 200 million yen, so I can't stop laughing.
    188AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Re: #182
    Are you going to cash out?
    195AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #182
    Same thing happened with Kioxia stock —
    people who say 'I can't stop laughing' mostly end up not knowing when to sell and get all mopey about it later.

    I keep thinking someone should coin a name for this phenomenon.
    183AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    Honestly, if they crash real estate prices with this,

    Japan will never be able to go back to being a developed country again.
    185AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    Re: #183
    With the yen this weak, 'developed country' is a joke anyway.
    191AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #183
    Japan's already a developing country at this point.
    The yen barely has any credibility left, which is exactly why prices are like this.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s capital-gains tax on real estate has long turned on a five-year holding-period line: sell within five years and “short-term transfer income” (tanki jōtō shotoku) is taxed at roughly 39% combined national and local rates, versus about 20% once you clear five years. That gap has existed for decades and has always shaped how flippers time their exits rather than stopping speculation outright. What MLIT filed on August 25 is a request to tighten that existing five-year rule as part of the FY2027 tax reform process — ministries submit requests over summer, the ruling coalition’s tax panel hashes out specifics by December, and any change would only take effect from around spring 2027, not immediately. The backdrop is the late-1980s Heisei bubble, whose 1990 collapse (following land-related lending curbs introduced too late) opened three decades of stagnation that Japanese commentators still invoke reflexively whenever land-price intervention is discussed.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t over whether to act, but over who is actually buying: one camp blamed Chinese capital and tied the timing to Komeito’s exit from the coalition, while others cited survey data showing Chinese investment cooling for two years, Taiwanese buyers now over half of foreign purchasers, foreigners only ~3% of buyers overall, and domestic wealthy individuals and flipping realtors as the bigger force in high-end Tokyo condos.

    What nobody raised is the domestic supply side: years of near-zero rates (only exited in 2024), plus labor and materials shortages driving up new-build construction costs, have pushed prices up independent of any foreign money at all — making “foreign speculators” a much smaller part of the story than the thread’s framing suggests.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “Curbing Speculative Condo Trading: Ministry Seeks Tax Reform to Rein In Soaring Prices.”

  • Is a PS5 with 1TB Storage a Bargain at ¥55,000? 5ch Erupts Over Actual Usable Capacity

    A post claiming “you can buy a PS5 with 1TB of storage for ¥55,000” went viral on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board. While some praised the price as a steal compared to buying PC parts separately, others pointed out that against the advertised 825GB, the actual usable capacity is only around 667GB — sparking a heated argument over how to interpret the storage figures.

    Claims that the PS5 has reached RTX 3060-class performance, plus price comparisons noting a standalone GPU alone costs over ¥60,000, only fueled the cost-performance debate, which never reached a consensus.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:34
    A PS5 with better gaming performance than this, 1TB of storage, AND a ¥10,000 controller thrown in, all for ¥55,000 — it genuinely makes no sense.
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:37
    An SSD alone runs you ¥20,000-30,000.
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:41
    Re: #4
    Yeah, it's basically catching up to SanDisk Extreme-tier pricing now (a premium SSD line — "SDex").
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:37
    Is lying some kind of terminal illness for these people?
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:38
    Re: #5
    No question, it's a sickness.
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:39
    CPU: ¥20,000
    GPU: ¥80,000
    SSD: ¥30,000
    Motherboard: ¥20,000
    Controller: ¥10,000

    That's how much value you're getting.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:43
    Re: #8
    So the gap between that estimated value and the actual price is Sony eating the loss (selling at a deficit).
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:41
    Wait, the PS5 has already surpassed the RTX 3060 in performance?
    At this rate it'll be beating the 3070 by next year 😌
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:49
    Re: #11
    Even in benchmarks it beats the 3060.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:50
    Re: #23
    What benchmark?
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:52
    Re: #23
    I don't want to become the kind of person who lies without batting an eye.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:42
    Wait, is it still 1TB right now? Feels like they quietly downsized it and relaunched it as some "new, easier-to-swallow size" (a dig at marketing spin, the kind of phrase usually used for "easier to take" pills).
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:44
    Re: #12
    The ¥55,000 model has 825GB, but the system reserves about 160GB, so what you can actually use is around 660GB.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:44
    Re: #13
    Isn't that the same 825GB as the original model?
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:46
    Re: #17
    The original model was 1TB, and 825GB was what was left after the system took its cut.
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:49
    Re: #21
    Was it? Mine's the original disc-drive model and I'm pretty sure it's 825GB — wasn't 1TB the later revision?
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:51
    Re: #21
    Nope. It's 825GB total, and after the system takes its share you're left with 670.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:07
    PlayStation fans' inferiority complex about PCs is on another level.
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:12
    Re: #39
    I own both an Xbox Ally X and a PS5, and I just use each for what it's good at.
    Not really sure what "complex" you're talking about.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:11


    For reference, this is an SSD that was on sale at GEO (a Japanese used-goods/game retailer) a year ago.
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:22
    Why do PlayStation fanboys keep telling lies that get caught this fast?
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:28
    Re: #53,56
    Guess your brain rots once you start worshipping PlayStation.
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:26
    Wait, even Windows 11 doesn't use anywhere near 50GB — but the PS5, which can only play games, eats up something like 150GB just for the system?
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:28
    Re: #55
    Yeah, that genuinely is bizarre.
    67AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    Re: #55
    The NAND chip installed is 768GiB (825GB). After setting aside over-provisioning space, what's left for the user is 715GiB (768GB).

    Every other manufacturer sells this exact SSD labeled as 768GB — only "Shitty Sony" (a common 5ch insult pun, "クソニー") labels it 825GB.

    For the PS5, after the system takes its cut, the user is actually left with 667GiB (716GB).

    If the over-provisioning matches what normal SSD makers use, that means the PS5's system is hogging 48GiB.
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:28
    This guy's latest post is getting torched, lol
    He's been losing his mind over the "ban physical discs" crusade lately, so I figured he'd catch heat eventually lol
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:36
    Re: #59
    I mean, he's not wrong, but a PlayStation fan probably shouldn't be calling other users "a cancer on the game industry."
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:42
    Re: #59
    I get wanting third-party games to actually release.
    But I don't get getting angry just because a third-party game went multiplatform.
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:56
    Re: #59
    He's got a point, but even for the sake of an example, did he need to drag in Switch and Xbox?
    Just stick to PlayStation.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:34
    https://s.kakaku.com/item/K0001711304/
    The RTX 5060 is ¥63,000 though.
    70AnonymousAug 26, 2026 19:37
    Re: #63
    The 8GB version doesn't have much demand, that's why it's cheap.
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:40
    [Switching Hub] Persona 6 physical edition confirmed PS5-exclusive
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1787702355/

    There's a genuinely pure-bred PlayStation zealot loose in that thread
    Claiming the PS6 will be backward-compatible with old discs, apparently.
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #84
    That's just the usual crowd from the "Sokuho" (breaking news) board.
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Re: #85
    Scary how being quarantined in a place like that for years turns you into this.
    88AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:51
    Re: #85
    When you see firsthand that the "Sokuho" board really is a parallel universe detached from reality, it goes past shock straight into fear.
    87AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Wait, doesn't the ¥55,000 model actually have less storage?
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:54
    Re: #87
    Pretty sure it was something like 800GB.

    Background and Key Points

    The PS5’s storage math checks out but rarely gets explained in English-language coverage: the console ships with an 825GB (or 1TB on the newer “slim” revision) SSD, but Sony reserves a chunk for the system, firmware, and — critically — over-provisioning, the standard SSD-controller practice of setting aside raw NAND for wear-leveling and error correction. That leaves roughly 667GB actually usable for games and saves. This isn’t a Sony-specific scam; every SSD maker under-reports usable capacity relative to raw NAND for the same reason, though as posters noted, competitors typically label the drive by its post-overprovisioning figure rather than the larger raw number, which is part of why Sony’s 825GB/667GB gap feels more jarring by comparison.

    The thread’s real fault line wasn’t whether the ¥55,000 price is good value — almost everyone agreed a PC build with comparable GPU, CPU, SSD, and controller costs more piecemeal — but whether advertising “825GB” is honest when only 667GB (or by one poster’s more technical breakdown, 667GiB) is usable. That escalated into a tangent about whether PS5 performance genuinely rivals an RTX 3060, a claim posters challenged for lacking any cited benchmark, which nobody in the thread actually produced.

    What’s likely to confuse outside readers: this is not new information. The 825GB-vs-667GB usable-capacity gap has been public since the PS5’s 2020 launch and is documented in Sony’s own specs; it resurfaces periodically on 5ch whenever a “PS5 is a steal” post goes viral, less because anyone discovered something new than because console-vs-PC price comparisons reliably bait the board’s recurring platform-loyalty arguments, visible here in the tangents about a banned-poster’s anti-physical-media crusade and the “Sokuho” board’s reputation for detached-from-reality PlayStation zealotry.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread “An expert says: “The PS5 is 1TB of storage for ¥55,000”.”

  • Giants’ Kai Takuya gets his first hit of the season — and it’s a home run! 5ch thread erupts

    In the 5ch live-thread for the Giants vs. Yakult game, Giants catcher Kai Takuya’s first hit of the season became the talk of the board — because it went straight out of the park. Known for his powerful throwing arm, dubbed the “Kai Cannon,” his blast had some fans ranking it alongside Sakamoto Hayato’s walk-off three-run homer and Maru Yoshihiro’s pinch-hit grand slam as one of the “miracles of the season” — while others jabbed, “the third one’s pretty weak sauce.”

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 114
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Jingu Stadium
    Starting Lineups
    【Giants】  【Yakult】
    4 Urata    6 Nagaoka
    8 Sasaki   5 Akahane
    7 Matsumoto  7 Santana
    5 Dalbec   3 Yamada
    3 Masuda (Riku)  9 Masuda
    9 Hirayama  2 Suzuki (Kanau)
    6 Izumiguchi  4 Uchiyama
    2 Kai    1 Yamano
    1 Inoue   8 Montero
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:17
    Re: #1
    Thanks for the new thread
    This right here is the must-win battle
    8AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    Kai just got his first hit of the season, let's gooooo!!!
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    The Kai Cannon is soooooo stroooooong!!!
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    You guys, count me in too — full dogeza (bowing apology) ahhhh tatatatatata
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    He really does have some pop, huh
    If he can hit like that, Kai's fine by me
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    Hashi-God's managing is on point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    The signs I kept calling finally paid off
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    The Kai Cannon has arrived lol
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    We've got this in the bag
    Gonna go run to Mummy Mart (local supermarket chain)
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    You guys owe Kai an apology
    Sorry, Kai
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    Sounds like he heard the 'hit a homer' sign
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    No runners on base, so pinch-hitter Nakayama just swings away
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    Is Kai growing his hair out again? People are gonna start calling him Kinpachi-sensei (the shaggy-haired teacher from the old TV drama)
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    Oh no! Now Hashigami's gonna get the wrong idea and keep using Kai
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:21
    Re: #49
    Just platoon them, that's fine
    Oshiro gets tired fast
    Still better than using Kishida
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    Didn't need Yamase at all
    Kai's a catcher who can win games — worth every bit of that ¥500 million
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:20
    I believed in him

    985 Name: Anonymous Wanted… [] Posted: 2026/08/26 (Wed) 21:16:18.57 0
    Come on Kai, one more!
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:21
    No doubt about it, Kai's better than using Kobayashi
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:21
    Kai's the one who shut down that bases-loaded, one-out jam
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:22
    Kishida's unusable right now so they've got no choice but to use Kai
    Kobayashi and Yamase starting would be out of the question
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:22
    I heard they're using Kai to give Oshiro a rest
    69AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Why does Kai always look like he's struggling so much
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Kobayashi really is photogenic
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    We're in the thick of a pennant race and what's the captain even doing!
    83AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Well, if you're gonna score this inning it's gotta be a home run — and of all people, Kai
    This is a championship-caliber team right here
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Nakayama's been on a roll lately
    If only it weren't for the WBC
    85AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Miracles of this season:
    Sakamoto's walk-off three-run homer
    Maru's lifetime-honorary pinch-hit go-ahead grand slam
    Kai's first hit of the year being a home run ← NEW
    86AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:24
    Re: #85
    The third one's pretty weak sauce
    92AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:26
    Lotte's quietly coming back from 0-5 too lol
    95AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:26
    Sasaki comes through with a timely hit!!!
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:26
    Riiiight fieeeeld, ohhh and ohh and ohhh
    The 'Monkey' is unreal!!! (fielder's nickname)
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:26
    George is soooo strong!!!
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:27
    Urata .288
    Sasaki .277
    Matsumoto .277

    Too good
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #120
    Unagi (Eel), please come back to us!
    131AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Re: #120
    Thanks, former legendary manager Abe!
    135AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Go look at rookie-year Sasaki's batting stance, dude looked like he'd never get a hit
    He's grown so much
    137AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:29
    Re: #135
    Seung-yeop's the man

    Background and Key Points

    Giants catcher Kai Takuya carries the nickname “Kai Cannon” for his throwing arm behind the plate, not his bat — he’s a defense-first backstop signed as a free agent for a reported ¥500 million, which is why one poster calls the homer “worth every bit of that ¥500 million.” Yomiuri Giants and Tokyo Yakult Swallows are two of Japan’s oldest NPB franchises and perennial rivals; the game in question was at Jingu Stadium, Yakult’s home park in Tokyo, during a tight pennant race in late August. “Hashi-God” refers to acting manager Hashigami, and the running joke about “signs” (calling for a home-run swing) reflects how heavily NPB broadcasts and 5ch fans dissect in-game strategy pitch by pitch — something casual fans outside Japan rarely see discussed in this much granular detail.

    The thread doesn’t actually split over whether Kai’s homer was impressive — everyone agrees it was a shock given his light-hitting reputation. The real friction is over what it means for his playing time: some want Hashigami to keep starting Kai over rivals Oshiro, Kobayashi, Yamase, and the currently-unusable Kishida, while others (see post 49) worry the manager will now overuse a catcher whose real value is defensive, not offensive.

    What outside readers might miss is the comparison list in post 85: ranking Kai’s first hit of the season — a solo shot with no strategic weight — alongside Sakamoto’s walk-off three-run homer and Maru’s pinch-hit grand slam is largely tongue-in-cheek self-deprecation about how offensively thin the Giants have been this year, not a serious claim about the play’s importance, which is why another poster immediately calls it “weak sauce.”

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager Thread 115.”

  • DECA!BEAT Dance Video Drops, Fans React to Positioning — 5ch: “This Is Exactly It”

    UP-FRONT Channel has released a dance practice video for DECA!BEAT’s “Wacha☆Future.” On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, members’ formation positions and choreography became a hot topic, with opinions split over Ebata getting “buried” in the background and how Goto Hana was used.

    There was also some sarcastic back-and-forth about the video that was originally only supposed to be released once a mission was completed.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:00
    [UP-FRONT Channel]
    DECA!BEAT "Wacha☆Future" DANCE PRACTICE ver.
    youtu.be/daXwOUr6bBs
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Thread guessing who'll be added to DECA!BEAT to replace Goto Hana
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1787699254/
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Come to think of it, whatever happened to that video that was supposed to unlock once the mission was cleared?
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:05
    On the flip side — if the mission hadn't been cleared,
    were they seriously not going to release it after going through all the trouble of filming it?
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:30
    Re: #7
    They'll show us this, then act like a video that "doesn't exist" was never something they failed to release.
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Gotta keep showing you're motivated, I guess.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:06
    Wait, does that mean we get to see the bowlegged dance too? ("gani-mata," a duck-walk-style move)
    I'm watching Hello! Lab on TVer right now, I'll check it out next.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    When Ebata stands center, it's such a "yeah, this is it" feeling.
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:12
    Choreography at this level should be a breeze for the current members.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Ebata's the one getting buried the most here.
    Even more buried than she was in Juice=Juice.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:13
    Choreographer Makita Sayako is nice and easy to follow.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:16
    Ebaru isn't really standing out that much.
    Though her look in the MV turned out amazing.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:19
    Ebata really is just background filler.
    If it were Kawashima, it wouldn't have turned out like this.
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    Re: #25
    Huh? Kawashima wasn't picked, though?
    The one who got picked was Ebata.
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:23
    Obviously, "Ketsuron kara Itte Chōdai" on Hello! Station had more of an all-star feel.
    In DECA!BEAT, it's not that Ebata is background filler — it's that everyone else just has an unusually strong presence.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    If she's relatively less distinctive and has a weaker presence, isn't that basically the definition of "background filler"…
    28AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:25
    I feel like Eba works as a nice accent in Juice=Juice, though.
    Maybe it's because she's got such a strong image of squealing around with the younger members.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:27
    So this is a team built around the "Kirara" roster, huh.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:28
    Wait, was Homatan even in this?
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:43
    Goto's clearly a talent suited for outside work.
    But if she wants a long career, she'll also need to build a solid fanbase within the Hello! Project scene.
    This is probably a transitional phase where there's a lot to figure out.
    43AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:44
    Kamirena is small and cute.
    Yumigeta stands out more than you'd expect.
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:45
    I thought Okamura was kind of plain, but seeing her like this, she's got pretty well-balanced stats.
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Makes me imagine what Kamirena would've been like in a world where she'd joined an existing group as its youngest member —
    and that's not a bad thing to picture.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:46
    Miimi's slit was actually pretty great.
    Didn't notice it in person.
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Sugiyama's the BEYOOOOONDS slot, Suzuki's the Morning Musume slot.
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #49
    Yumigeta, who loves Decarbo, is gonna cry.
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:48
    https://tiktok.com/@decarbo46/video/7678318256586820885
    https://i.imgur.com/nFWKa8k.mp4


    Decarbo [Official] @ Fun, Effortless Decarbonization
    decarbo46

    The four of us doing Wacha☆ #Earthhacks #DecaBeat #HelloProject
    Wacha☆Future/DECA!BEAT Intro ver. – Hello! Project
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    Is it just me, or does Yokaze look like she's having more fun over here?
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #57
    They've pretty blatantly lined up the next generation's main players, so she's probably feeling good about it.
    Plus she got to team up with Eba.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:51
    Re: #57
    Not just that Ebata's in it — compared to her own group, there are simply more members close to her age here to begin with.
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:50
    Looking at this, Goto's visuals and performance are on par with any other group's ace,
    so why can't ANGERME make good use of her?
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:52
    Re: #58
    Because it's the "Ise hell" (fan shorthand for ANGERME's Ise-dominated dynamic).

    Background and Key Points

    DECA!BEAT is one of Hello! Project’s periodic “all-star” cross-unit projects, assembling members pulled from across the agency’s various groups — Morning Musume, ANGERME, Juice=Juice, BEYOOOOONDS, and the trainee ranks — rather than being a standing group with its own roster. UP-FRONT Channel is the official Hello! Project YouTube outlet that drops these choreography and MV clips, and “dance practice ver.” releases are a routine promotional format used to show off formation and choreography separately from the polished music video. Ebata, singled out here, belongs to Juice=Juice; Goto Hana belongs to ANGERME, a group fans jokingly call dominated by “Ise hell” — shorthand for member Ise Layla’s outsized presence within that group, which posters use to explain why Goto isn’t showcased more at home despite her ability.

    The thread didn’t split over whether Ebata was in the back — everyone agrees on her positioning — but over why: some blame the choreography for genuinely sidelining her, others argue it’s simply that this particular lineup is unusually stacked with strong performers, making her look diminished only by comparison.

    What’s easy to miss is that DECA!BEAT’s centers and formations say nothing about a member’s standing in her actual group; a strong showing here doesn’t equal popularity at home, and vice versa. The “mission-gated” video the posters mock was a marketing conceit — content teased as unlockable only if a fan-engagement goal was met — and the sarcasm stems from suspecting it would have surfaced eventually regardless of whether the mission succeeded.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “DECA!BEAT “Wacha☆Future” DANCE PRACTICE ver..”

  • Man Live-Tweets as Dating App Match Vanishes Into the Bathroom for Ages

    A post about a date with a woman he’d met on a dating app went viral on 5ch after she stepped into the bathroom and didn’t come back for over 30 minutes. The incident took place at a restaurant on the 45th floor, and thread readers were split over whether to call an ambulance or just accept he’d been ditched.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    Standing watch outside the bathroom, but she's still not back.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:15
    Standing guard outside the bathroom is creepy.
    Just wait at the table.
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:16
    Re: #14
    Waiting right outside so she spots you the second she's out is just basic manners.
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Maybe she's busy lining up her next dating app date.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Re: #25
    Do that after you get home, come on.
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    What were you two talking about right before, and where is this happening?
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Re: #30
    We were saying stuff like "guess it's time to head home," then we both went to the bathroom.
    I was out in like two seconds, and now I'm stuck like this.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Re: #36
    You left yourself wide open there.
    42AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    Re: #36
    She probably waited to see OP (that's you) go into the bathroom, then took off.
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:21
    Isn't she just waiting for you to leave your post outside the bathroom?
    The moment you step away, she'll come out.
    And just go straight home.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:22
    Re: #37
    I stepped away for a bit, but she still didn't come out.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:23
    After that I got a message: "Sorry! Hang on a sec."
    So she must still be in there.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Re: #44
    Are you sure she's actually still in there?
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:25
    Re: #44
    She might have collapsed in the bathroom — shouldn't you call an ambulance?
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:27
    Re: #53
    Nah, that feels like a step too far, you know?
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Re: #55
    Aren't you going to message her? Like ask if she's okay?
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:30
    Re: #58
    The "wait for me" message came 30 minutes ago.
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Re: #62
    No, I mean after that — you've been waiting 30 minutes now, you should send something.
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:33
    Re: #64
    Couldn't send it 😔
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:29
    Either you came off as seriously creepy, or she's dropping a 20-meter poop in there.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Re: #59
    I'm gorgeous inside and out (riffing on the phrase "handsome in looks and heart"), so it's gotta be an epically long poop.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:35
    I'd hate a place where you can hear every last blast of the bidet.
    76AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:36
    Re: #74
    It's a totally normal bathroom.
    It's just really quiet around here.
    96AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    You're probably already blocked.
    98AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    Re: #96
    Not blocked.
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #98
    Not blocked on the dating app OR on LINE?
    108AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    Re: #104
    We only matched on the app, so that's the only place, and I'm not blocked there.
    109AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    She climbed out the bathroom window with her shoes in hand and made a run for it, that's what happened.
    112AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Re: #109
    This is the 45th floor, dude.
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:44
    Depending on how you look at it, it's kind of funny that a dozen-plus people could be waiting on her to finish.
    I'd absolutely hate that.
    120AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    Re: #114
    The women's room was definitely not crowded.
    118AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:45
    Messaging her now or just leaving would both wound her maidenly pride, right?
    All I can do is pretend I fell asleep so it looks like I never noticed how long she was in there.
    124AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #118
    What do you even mean, "pretend to be asleep"?
    119AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    At this point the only explanation left is she sprinted for the exit the instant OP walked into the bathroom.
    123AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #119
    But I got a "wait for me" message after that.
    121AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:46
    Try sending her: "You giant poop monster 😡"
    125AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:47
    Re: #121
    Nah, that's rough, man.
    128AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:48
    Re: #124
    I pretend to be asleep on the bench
    ↓
    Poop Girl: "Sorry, were you waiting long?"
    ↓
    Me: "Oh, I was asleep, didn't even notice."


    That's the plan.
    147AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:55
    Re: #128
    Stop saying stuff that makes no sense.
    148AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    You get to have dinner with a woman up on the 45th floor and you're fixated on the bathroom?… Work on your story a little more…
    149AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:01
    Re: #148
    Dinner was at a cheap place.
    After that we just went up to the free high-floor lookout to see the night view.
    152AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:03
    Re: #149
    Well, no wonder she left.
    153AnonymousAug 26, 2026 21:03
    Re: #149
    Well, no wonder she left.

    Background and Key Points

    Man Waits 30 Minutes Outside Bathroom While Dating App Date Never Returns

    Japanese dating apps like Tinder, Pairs, and Tapple have become one of the most common ways young Japanese people meet, and a “first date” arranged through them is typically a short, low-commitment dinner or coffee meeting, often at a casual, inexpensive restaurant — which is part of why posters in this thread zeroed in on the detail that the date was at a “cheap place” (150-149) rather than something matching the impressive 45th-floor night-view setting. That mismatch, small as it sounds, became one of the thread’s turning points: several posters treated it as retroactive evidence that the date was already going badly before the bathroom disappearance even happened.

    The actual split in the thread was less about whether she left and more about what OP should do about it. One camp pushed a worst-case, duty-of-care reading — she could have collapsed and someone should call an ambulance or check on her — while another camp treated the vanishing as an obvious, almost comedic brush-off (the “20-meter poop” and window-escape jokes), telling OP to just accept it and stop hovering, since standing watch outside a women’s restroom door reads as alarming rather than considerate in Japan.

    What the thread never really engages with is the mechanics of the app itself: a match made purely in-app, with no LINE ID exchanged, is trivially and permanently escapable — she can simply stop responding with zero social cost, no mutual contacts, no shared history, nothing forcing a real goodbye. That’s precisely the loophole posters gesture at (“she waited for you to leave your post”) without naming it directly: on these apps, disappearing is a built-in exit, not a dramatic act.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “The girl I met on a dating app went to take a dump and never came back.”

  • Who’s the Cutest in Hello! Project? OGs and Current Members Can’t Agree

    A thread titled “Who’s the cutest person in Hello! Project?” went up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, with posters piling in to nominate OG (graduated) members like Ai Takahashi, Reina Tanaka, and Momoko Tsugunaga.

    Current members got some love too, with names like Rio Kitagawa and Marii Makino coming up, and comments like “OGs really do have more cute ones” fueling a heated OGs-vs-current-lineup debate.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:05
    OGs count too
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    Ayumi Shibata (Melon Kinenbi)
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    Probably Haru-san
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    It's Ise Rerapi for me
    For OGs, Manakan
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:09
    No joke, it's Ai Takahashi
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:09
    Ayane Sato-chan
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:10
    I'll go with Suzu Hashisako-chan!
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    "Chiikawa" Haru-san (as cute as the character)
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    A slim, busty 23-year-old who looks like she could be in Hello! Project
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351258609
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    If we're talking cutest idol overall, it's Reina Tanaka
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    For current members, all-around it's Shimakawa
    Including OGs, it's Reina
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    Yuka Miyazaki (Juice=Juice's first leader)
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    Gotta be "Ressā" (nickname, like 'red panda')
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:13
    Yuka Maeda (S/mileage)
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:14
    https://imgur.com/6ZmEfos.jpg
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:14
    Just going by face, Chii
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:16
    Come on, it's obviously Momoko Tsugunaga
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Aika Mitsui: "People who don't notice my charm are just dense"
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    SHIORI YAGI!!
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Moe Kamikokuryo
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Gotta be Shimakura Rikachun
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    Marii Makino-chan
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:20
    Akane Haga-chin!
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:20
    Right now it'd be Kirara
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Oi, what about my girl Maopin?
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:30
    Yeah, OGs really do have more cute ones
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Gotta be Rio Kitagawa
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:39
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0QPDzmaYAEpZmi.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0QIg44asAEbxvO.jpg
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    Re: #49
    Nice, she's got a lot of hair, love it
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:40
    This is Ichika Arisawa-chan
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    All-time, just going by looks, probably Shiba-chan
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4z7hQ1UUAE5G_S.jpg:orig#.jpg
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:45
    Re: #55
    Reina Tanaka's visuals are insane

    Background and Key Points

    Background: Hello! Project is Tsunku’s idol agency umbrella founded in 1998, home to Morning Musume and its sister groups (Angerme, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, and others). Nearly three decades in, it has an unusually deep alumnae bench — “OG” members who graduated (idol-speak for leaving a group, not quitting in disgrace) but remain fixtures in fan culture through reunions, solo work, and nostalgia content. Ai Takahashi and Reina Tanaka are former Morning Musume leaders/centers from the late 2000s “Platinum Era,” Momoko Tsugunaga anchored Berryz Kobo-adjacent group S/mileage, and Yuka Miyazaki and Yuka Maeda represent the Juice=Juice/S/mileage lineages — all acts that peaked commercially before many current members had debuted. Current-lineup names like Rio Kitagawa, Marii Makino, and Kirara belong to the present-day Morning Musume ’26 and junior groups.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t idol vs. idol but era vs. era: multiple posters explicitly frame it as OGs versus current members (“OGs really do have more cute ones”), with nominations splitting cleanly along that generational line rather than by group or unit.

    What outside readers will likely misread: “graduated” doesn’t mean disgraced or retired from entertainment — most OGs mentioned here stay publicly active, which is exactly why they can still win a cuteness poll decades later. Readers may also assume this is a ranking thread with real stakes, but it’s just informal nomination-dropping — no votes, criteria, or tally decide a winner, so “cutest” here reflects personal nostalgia and current fan-engagement biases (recency, screenshot circulation) more than any consensus metric.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Who’s the cutest person in Hello! Project?”.