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  • Hirotada Ototake Asks ‘Who Decided “Katawa” Is Off-Limits?’ — 5ch: ‘Don’t Look Down on People, But They Don’t Need Special Respect’

    On September 1, author Hirotada Ototake addressed on his X (formerly Twitter) account an incident on Nippon TV’s “Joho Live Miyaneya,” in which a commentator used a word considered banned from broadcast, prompting Yomiuri TV announcer Momo Nishio to apologize on air. Ototake questioned who had decided that the word “katawa” (a now-taboo term roughly equivalent to “cripple”) was inappropriate, and argued that failing to properly consider the people it affects is itself “the most disrespectful attitude” of all. Reactions on 5ch were split — some backed the broadcaster’s compliance response, others sympathized with Ototake’s point, and still others cited his own past remarks to criticize him — with no consensus emerging.

    Tue, Sept 1, 21:15

    Author Hirotada Ototake (50) posted on his X (formerly Twitter) account on the 1st, addressing the broadcast of a word considered banned from the airwaves on Nippon TV’s “Joho Live Miyaneya.”

    During the September 1 broadcast, a commentator used the banned word to convey the meaning “unable to live a normal life.” Yomiuri TV announcer Momo Nishio later apologized on air, calling the remark inappropriate.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    10AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:52
    This guy and Izena should really just keep their mouths shut.
    55AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:17
    Re: #10
    I think it's just him putting on a 'not bothered' act, but Izena feels a bit different somehow.
    No idea what she's up to lately, but there was even a thread about her on the Kijo board (a gossip-heavy forum board for housewives) for a while…
    12AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:53
    Well, that's the kind of group that files a complaint over every single remark like that.
    18AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:54
    Funny how 'chihōshō' and 'seishin bunretsubyō' (the old terms for dementia and schizophrenia) were also supposedly fine to just keep using unchanged, right?
    22AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:57
    They decided we should stop saying 'katawa' or 'shōgaisha' (disabled person), and the result was we properly started calling people 'Mii-chan' instead, didn't we?
    What's there to even complain about.
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:58
    Using 'katawa' (written with the old '片輪' kanji) in this day and age…
    That's taking compliance way too lightly, no matter how you look at it.
    The show needs to take responsibility and put its commentators through proper training.
    29AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:59
    It's weird that nobody brings up who actually decided this, or what came of that decision.
    There's no way a banned-broadcast-words list doesn't exist somewhere.
    30AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:59
    But if someone actually called him that, he'd totally lose it, right?
    47AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:13
    Re: #30
    There's a thread called 'Z-take' that absolutely rips on Ototake, and apparently he knows about it and takes it pretty good-naturedly.
    31AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:59
    But it's an empirically proven fact that word-policing does have some real effect.
    32AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:00
    Re: #1
    Honestly, I think what actually pisses off other disabled people the most is you acting like you're the spokesman for all disabled people.
    35AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:01
    Back in the 2ch days, this guy's likability was through the roof.
    He had a strong mentality too — used to read what 2ch said about him and let it fuel him.
    Now he's turned into some random pundit-for-hire nobody quite understands.
    38AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:05
    Well, I guess that's just how it works in old media.
    Complaints get loud and annoying, so it's basically to keep the call centers from getting swamped.
    This isn't a human-rights thing — it's a self-defense rule that exists purely for the network's risk management and cost control.
    Think about it for two seconds and it's obvious.
    39AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:07
    You'd think a bestselling author like him would be a stickler for wording, but turns out he's more of a 'substance over phrasing' guy.
    40AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:08
    Re: #1
    Looking down on people is bad, sure, but they don't need special respect either.
    42AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:10
    Re: #1
    Personally, I've never seen anyone use the word 'katawa' for any purpose other than mocking someone.
    43AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:10
    From Ototake's perspective, he's probably just jealous that able-bodied people can still use 'katawa' casually about half the time.
    57AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:17
    Re: #1
    > Who decided that '障害者' (shōgaisha) is NG but the softened '障がい者' spelling is OK?

    Actually, Chiba City pushes back against this.
    Citizens raised that very complaint, but the mayor at the time shot it down, and the city still uses '障害者' to this day.
    That mayor, by the way, is Kumagai — now the prefectural governor.
    66AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:24
    Re: #57
    To begin with, using '障害者' in the names of public services and facilities was never a problem — it's only in general everyday contexts that they want you to switch to '障がい者.'
    Honestly not sure there's even a point to changing it.
    61AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:22
    What's the point of reviving a word that used to be used with discriminatory intent?
    If there are people traumatized by it, just let it die.
    63AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:23
    Re: #61
    The internet is just full of people who want to discriminate against others to feel superior.
    74AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:29
    It's reverse discrimination, really.
    If people can't be allowed to speak with some degree of personal responsibility, eventually nobody will be able to say anything at all.
    81AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:34
    Re: #75
    You mean the guy who unreasonably demands people carry him up and down stairs?
    84AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:37
    Re: #81
    Well, his own take is that that's a separate issue lol.

    He denies saying 'give every disabled person the red-carpet treatment,' but this is a guy who maxes out every right disabled people are already entitled to.
    83AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:37
    Original manga:
    Rikiishi: "Not one round… one minute… that's how long it'll take to turn this meathead into a cripple…"

    Anime:
    Rikiishi: "Not one round… one minute… that's how long it'll take to make sure this meathead never stands in a ring again…"
    86AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:38
    Re: #83
    The anime kept saying 'mekkachi' (an old slur for someone blind in one eye) over and over though.

    Background and Key Points

    Banned broadcast terms aren’t set by law — they’re a form of self-regulation each network applies based on internal guidelines from bodies like Japan’s National Association of Commercial Broadcasters (Minpo-ren). Ototake’s question of “who decided this” gets at the fact that the entity and criteria behind this self-regulation are hard to see from the outside. The thread also raised the example of Chiba City, which still uses “障害者” (the original kanji for “disabled person”) in its official materials — a reminder that the switch to the softened “障がい者” spelling isn’t a nationwide rule but varies by municipality and outlet. At the same time, reactions in the thread mixed opinions on Ototake’s point itself with skepticism about his credibility based on his past remarks, so the discussion never really converged on a single line of argument. Beyond a simple “for or against word-policing” framing, it’s worth keeping Ototake’s actual angle in view — questioning who sets these standards, and by what criteria.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Hirotada Ototake Shares His Take on Miyaneya’s “Inappropriate Remark”: “Who Decided ‘Katawa’ Is Inappropriate?” / “The Most Disrespectful Attitude of All”.”

  • Turns out the Chiikawa fandom has its own ‘popular members,’ ‘unpopular members,’ obsessive stans, and haters too…

    A Chiikawa-related thread lit up with posts describing which characters are popular and unpopular using terms borrowed straight from Hello! Project idol fandom — ‘popular members,’ ‘unpopular members,’ ‘gachikoi’ (die-hard, deeply-in-love stans), and ‘antis’ (haters). It kicked off with an image of a customer poll held at the Lashinban store in Shinjuku, where Usagi came out on top, surprising a lot of posters. Meanwhile Rakko-sensei got called out as unpopular, with people unsure whether it’s ‘the looks or the personality.’ Some also questioned why Momonga, despite having a similar look, is so much more popular.

    1AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:33
    The popular ones are Usagi and Momonga, though Momonga catches flak too.
    Some people are hardcore 'gachikoi' for Kurimanjuu,
    while apparently even model-student types like Shisa and the Secondhand Bookstore guy have haters…
    9AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:39
    The one who's genuinely unpopular is Rakko-san.
    Dunno if it's the looks or the personality,
    but Momonga looks about the same and it's popular, so that's a mystery.
    11AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:42
    Re: #9
    Yeah, he's just not for people who want something cute.
    And his voice is weirdly handsome-sounding too.
    10AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:40
    @The Chiikawa poll results are up at Lashinban Shinjuku! Usagi, as expected (i ω i)(i ω i)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQ7wW4ib0AArVHU.jpg?name=orig
    20AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:51
    Re: #10
    I thought Hachiware was #1… guess it's Usagi.
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:54
    Re: #10
    Wait, there's a Lashinban inside a Marui department store now?
    Sign of the times.
    29AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:57
    Re: #10
    I sense some malice in the choice of Chiikawa picture there.
    14AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:47
    Siren → Dambara
    Shima Jiro → Inoue Re
    Mermaid → Ebamifu
    15AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:48
    Re: #14
    The one that got simmered in soy sauce was probably Risachika.
    16AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:49
    Usagi → Ma-chan
    18AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:51
    Re: #16
    Well, she's a popular member after all.
    19AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:51
    Re: #16
    I'd say more Nina than Ma-chan.
    23AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:53
    Can even grandpa enjoy this stuff?
    31AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:58
    Re: #23
    It's wearing the skin of a cute character, but the content is basically Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.
    36AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:03
    Re: #23
    I'd argue adults are the ones who'll enjoy it most.
    28AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:55
    Rakko → Maekoko
    32AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:58
    Re: #28
    Wadasako: 'What even is a rakko (sea otter)?'
    37AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:04
    The real 'yumejoshi' (self-insert fangirl) pick has to be Rakko-sensei, no objections allowed.
    38AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:05
    Re: #37
    Apparently there's self-insert fan fiction ('yume shousetsu') for Kurimanjuu and Momonga too, but…
    39AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:06
    Re: #38
    Give me more Kuri x Shisa married-couple content, please.
    56AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:26
    Re: #38
    Self-insert fanfic though — that's hilarious.
    48AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:15
    Even knowing the inside is sleazy, I can't cheer for a Hello! Project member who's only cute on the outside, so I can't root for Momonga.
    But I do hope the real one comes back someday and gets along with everyone again.
    And I hope the Dekatsuyo currently inside turns into a good kid too.
    52AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:21
    Re: #48
    The moment the Dekatsuyo inside develops a conscience, I want them shoved back into their original body and hunted down.
    51AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:20
    I'm a 'Wanfoo' fan, so here's Wanfoo plus a few extras:


    Chiikawa — Sayashi
    Hachiware — Kudo
    Usagi — Ma-chan
    Momonga — Michishige
    Secondhand Bookstore Guy — Iikubo
    Kurimanjuu — Ikuta
    Shisa — Suzuki
    Rakko — Kaga
    Shima Jiro — Makino
    Siren — Fukumura
    Hitoha — Ishida
    Futaha — Oda
    61AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:30
    Re: #51
    Grew mold and failed the Level 5 houseplant certification.
    60AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:28
    Shima Jiro is actually pretty toned for his build.
    He's basically a buff, big guy.
    67AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:35
    Re: #60
    Then let's go with Haga.
    62AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:32
    What about Haru-san?
    64AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:33
    Re: #62
    Next-gen Chiikawa —
    Hachiware would be Yumigeta
    Usagi would be Yamazaki
    65AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:34
    Re: #62
    I feel like, aside from being a hard worker, Haru-san's personality is pretty far removed from the Chiikawa crew.
    If I had to pick, maybe Hachiware?
    68AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:36
    I want Momonga and Dekatsuyo to go back to normal, but…
    since it's a character-merch business, I've resigned myself to the fact they never will.
    70AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:37
    Re: #68
    In the 'Angel and Devil' episode you got a brief glimpse of what might be the real Momonga's personality, right?
    69AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:36
    I love the theory that Kurimanjuu is secretly a former top-ranked hunter — good enough to team up with Rakko — and covers drinking money from their old earnings.
    It's true that Chiikawa can barely scrape together a meal without winning a prize, so there's no way Kurimanjuu could drink Strong Zero every single day without real money behind it.
    71AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:38
    Re: #69
    On top of that, they're on the selected rhythm-section unit.
    There's a faint whiff of 'actually really good at their job' about them.
    73AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:40
    Rakko-sensei's late-20s energy is off the charts.
    76AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:41
    Re: #73
    Feels like 26 or 27.
    75AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:40
    I still can't tell Chiikawa and Hachiware apart.
    79AnonymousSep 2, 2026 00:43
    Re: #75
    The blue one is Hachiware.

    Background and Key Points

    Chiikawa is a manga by creator Nagano that started on social media, known for pairing an adorable art style with recurring, brutal plot elements like being ‘hunted’ and ‘twisted apart.’ The thread was sparked by an image of a customer poll held at the Lashinban store in Shinjuku, where Usagi placed first — prompting surprised replies like ‘I thought Hachiware was number one.’ The second half of the thread turns into a very Hello! Project-board style game, with posters borrowing Hello! Project fan terminology and member names to describe the characters’ personalities. Worth noting: the reasoning behind who counts as a ‘popular member’ or ‘unpopular member’ isn’t official — it’s purely posters’ personal opinion — and some replies are hard to follow unless you’re familiar with both Chiikawa and Hello! Project fandom context.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread ‘Turns out the Chiikawa fandom has popular members, unpopular members, obsessive stans, and haters too…‘.

  • DOCOMO Slashes ‘d Card’ Reward Rate in Half to 0.5%, Adds Annual Fee — 5ch: ‘Is Management in Trouble?’

    On September 1, NTT DOCOMO announced it will cut the point reward rate on its “d Card” credit card in half, from the current 1% down to 0.5%, effective for usage from January 2027. At the same time, the company is conditionally ending its free annual fee, introducing a system that charges 1,650 yen if the card goes unused even once in the previous year. Benefits on the premium “d Card PLATINUM” and the “DOCOMO Poikatsu Plan” are also being scaled back. On 5ch, users weighed in with everything from complaints about network quality to subscriber-count trends, debating whether the changes are justified and what they signal about DOCOMO’s management going forward.

    NTT DOCOMO announced on September 1 that it is lowering the d Points reward rate on its “d Card” credit card. Starting with usage from January 2027, points earned on regular purchases will change from 1 point per 100 yen spent to 1 point per 200 yen spent, cutting the reward rate in half, from 1% to 0.5%. The currently free annual fee will also become conditionally chargeable: from the second year onward, cardholders who don’t use the card even once in the previous year will be charged 1,650 yen (tax included).

    Benefits on the premium “d Card PLATINUM” and the “DOCOMO Poikatsu Plan” pricing plan are also being reduced. For PLATINUM, the reward rate on DOCOMO Hikari and DOCOMO Denki Green charges will be lowered, and the introductory period during which the maximum reward rate applies uniformly to new members will be shortened. Under the Poikatsu Plan, the amount used to calculate d Points earned based on monthly fees will be reduced, cutting the actual points customers receive.

    The timing of these changes varies by category. Changes for DOCOMO Denki Green take effect for usage from October 2026; changes for mobile phone service, DOCOMO Hikari, d Card Tsumitate (savings/investment), and the DOCOMO Poikatsu Plan take effect for usage from December 2026. The standard d Card reward rate changes for usage from January 2027. Implementation dates are subject to change, and the revisions apply even to customers already subscribed to or using these services.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:19
    It's not like they ever wrote anywhere that "this won't change."

    Of course an opening-day rate doesn't last forever.
    183AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:59
    Re: #8
    PayPay: "Yeah, figured."
    13AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:20
    Was looking into online banks and DOCOMO was on the list, but glad I passed on it.
    Figured they'd be this kind of company, and yep, called it.
    20AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:22
    Re: #13
    I moved every last yen out of Sumishin SBI Net Bank to another bank in one transfer.
    No matter how much you had sitting in a time deposit, once they cut free interbank transfers down to just once a month, it got useless fast.
    Ah, isn't it DOCOMO Bank now, though?
    15AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:21
    Base stations:
    SoftBank, au — 100,000 sites
    DOCOMO — 50,000 sites

    This is dead serious
    That's why you can't even get signal in central Tokyo
    44AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:28
    Re: #15
    Wait, seriously? Is NTT just not investing in infrastructure at all?
    60AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:32
    Re: #15
    I'm out at the edge of Tokyo's 23 wards, and DOCOMO's signal is the worst of the bunch.
    Sometimes I even lose signal completely indoors.
    68AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Re: #15
    Back in the day, DOCOMO used to be the one with the best coverage, though.
    25AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:23
    Quit yer whining, it's because they're pouring money into soccer—

    New National Stadium: 52.8 billion yen
    World Cup: 30 billion yen
    126AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:45
    Re: #25
    City banks used to not even bother with average individual customers
    MUFG, which bought the National Stadium's naming rights, is still better
    Though with rates starting to climb, who knows what happens from here
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:23
    So iD used to be 1 point per 100 yen, and now it's 2 points per 200 yen?
    51AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:30
    Re: #26
    Wait, you still earn points with iD? Since last month nothing but d Payment earns bonus points anymore, no?
    30AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:25
    If you hate both SoftBank and Rakuten, au's your only option left.
    38AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:27
    Re: #30
    I don't really hate any particular carrier
    Been through all of them, currently on Rakuten (´・ω・`)
    I get not wanting to spend money on your phone, or the reverse of that
    but "which carrier is which"
    honestly makes zero sense to me…
    42AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:28
    Wasn't this basically forced on you at some point just to pay your phone bill?
    164AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:54
    Re: #42
    It's not forced — it just gets cheaper if you use it, no?
    43AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:28
    Turns out earning d Points through the Recruit Card and converting them beats earning them directly with a d Card by a mile, lol
    65AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Re: #43
    Yeah, it's 1.2%. Though the Visa/Mastercard version of the Recruit Card
    doesn't support tap-to-pay, wish they'd fix that
    58AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:32
    Maybe I should quit d Payment too?
    78AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:36
    Re: #58
    PayPay's already the undisputed king of QR payments. Rakuten Pay's a distant runner-up, that's settled.
    88AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:37
    Wasn't DOCOMO supposed to be strengthening its financial arm after buying a bank? What's the point of making things worse?
    173AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:56
    Re: #88
    Stop handing out points, start collecting fees — that's basically free money.
    97AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:38
    Wouldn't say it's this extreme everywhere, but yeah, pretty much every company's cutting back on point rewards these days.
    104AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:40
    Re: #97
    Visa tap-to-pay's reward rate is great lol
    98AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:39
    Heads up: DOCOMO says your d Account has been "deleted," but it actually isn't, so be careful.
    108AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:41
    Re: #98
    Huh?
    So you're saying Japan's top telecom is running shady dark-pattern practices?
    And they've even started a bank, so they're a financial institution too
    That's rough
    Is the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications just turning a blind eye to this?
    172AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:56
    Re: #98
    Q: An error shows up when I try to close/delete my d Account

    A: For customers who don't have a DOCOMO mobile line, closing/deleting a d Account will show an error and fail in the following cases:

    – It's set as the points destination for a d Card
    – DOCOMO Hikari (fiber) is registered to the d Account (for non-DOCOMO-line holders)
    – DOCOMO Denki Green (electricity) is registered to the d Account (for non-DOCOMO-line holders)
    – A DOCOMO phone number is registered
    https://id.smt.docomo.ne.jp/src/utility/detail_06_10.html

    So basically, unless you clear every single one of those conditions, it just stays forever?
    109AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:41
    Wait, what?! What's that mean?
    Does that make it a better deal?
    113AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:42
    Re: #109
    If you don't use tap-to-pay on your phone, the reward rate drops to 0.5%.
    112AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:42
    Guess it comes down to Rakuten in the end
    au's Ponta points don't really have anywhere to spend them
    If au Market were on par with Rakuten Market or Yahoo Shopping, they'd actually be worth something
    120AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:44
    Re: #112
    About all you can do with Ponta points is spend them at Life supermarkets
    or those Lawson trial-exchange coupons
    132AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:46
    Re: #120
    Convert them to au PAY.
    162AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:53
    Re: #120
    The Lawson trial coupons themselves are already pretty bad anyway
    at that point it's no different from just buying it at a regular supermarket
    130AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:46
    Is DOCOMO's business really in trouble…

    If things weren't going badly, they wouldn't be doing this
    And the fact that they ARE doing it means…

    It's a drop in the bucket and it'll drive customers away too, but hey, they'll probably just get bailed out with a flood of tax money anyway
    Seriously, they can do whatever they want, huh
    137AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:48
    Re: #130
    DOCOMO's not going under no matter how bad management gets, they're part of the NTT group. Though their brand image has completely tanked in the sense I described above.
    184AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:59
    Re: #130
    Customer exodus isn't letting up

    au (KDDI etc.) topped net subscriber additions for Q1 FY2026 (mobile phone contract counts as of end of June 2026)
    Key figures as of end of June 2026:

    – All four mobile carriers combined: 233,117,100 lines

    – By carrier:

    NTT DOCOMO: 91,291,800 (−1,784,600)

    au (KDDI etc.): 73,814,300 (+1,053,700)

    SoftBank: 57,019,700 (+99,600)

    Rakuten Mobile: 10,750,000 (+390,000)

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/39c65760d5577946b491bead07e84e3679783c93
    152AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:52
    Nobody's gonna use a credit card with a 0.5% rate
    when the baseline everyone expects is 1.0%
    170AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:56
    Re: #152
    Yeah, it's ridiculous.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This revision isn’t limited to the core d Card reward rate — it’s a sweeping overhaul that also touches the d Card PLATINUM benefits for DOCOMO Hikari and DOCOMO Denki Green, plus the point calculation for the DOCOMO Poikatsu Plan tied to monthly fees, with rollout dates staggered by service from October 2026 through January 2027 — an important fact from the original article. Opinions in the thread split between reading the revision as a “sign of financial trouble” versus “part of an industry-wide trend of reward cutbacks,” and posts like #104 backed the latter view by pointing out how rival cards’ Visa tap-to-pay rewards compare favorably. On subscriber numbers, replies cited figures showing DOCOMO with a net loss while au, SoftBank, and Rakuten Mobile posted net gains as of end of June 2026 — worth noting as fact that the timing of the reward-rate cut does coincide with the subscriber decline. That said, whether this is the direct cause of the revision remains speculation within the thread itself, and it’s worth flagging that the figures in this article are quoted information supplied by a 5ch poster.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “DOCOMO’s d Card Reward Rate, 1% → 0.5% (Tap-to-Pay Excluded) — 1,650 Yen Annual Fee If Unused Even Once a Year.”

  • Popular IP mobile games keep ‘shutting down’ — 5ch says it’s not tipa, it’s gacha fatigue

    Mobile games built on popular IPs like “Bungo Stray Dogs,” “Love Live!,” “Final Fantasy,” and “Sword Art Online” have been shutting down one after another. IT journalist Hiroshi Mikami analyzed the trend, saying, “Young people today don’t play social games. TikTok is enough for them, and games feel like a hassle. What they want is ‘tipa’ (time performance — getting maximum value for minimal time spent).” The 5ch thread reacting to this article erupted with pushback against the “tipa” theory itself. Opinions split over why young people are abandoning social games, with comments like “It’s not about tipa, it’s a rejection of the exploitative gacha system” and “Casual players are being abandoned, which is why hardcore titles like FromSoftware and Resident Evil are thriving.”

    No wonder they’re “shutting down”… The dark reasons behind the wave of mobile game “service terminations” as young people turn away

    What on earth is happening in the mobile game industry?

    “Lately, mobile games (hereafter ‘mobile games’) built around popular IPs (intellectual properties) like ‘Bungo Stray Dogs,’ ‘Love Live!,’ ‘Final Fantasy,’ and ‘Sword Art Online’ have been ending their service one after another,” says a gaming magazine writer.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:19
    Isn't it just because everyone realized these are hollow gacha games with no substance?
    Japanese social games really aren't designed to be fun to actually play.
    4AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:19
    Re: #2
    Except for Final Fantasy, none of these are really "popular IPs."
    They're anime-otaku stuff.
    No history.
    No brand power.
    And there's never a genuinely new entry.
    5AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:20
    lol he's not Shinji Mikami (the famous game director) — just some random guy
    97AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:31
    Re: #5
    He's actually pretty well known as an IT journalist though.
    6AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:20
    lol, this is an even more concrete case of mobile gaming's massively bleak future than Concord (the infamous game flop)
    7AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:21
    That's exactly why they need to abandon casual players and make titles aimed at hardcore players.
    That's why harder games like FromSoftware's or Resident Evil are doing well.
    In contrast, Square Enix leaned into casual players and failed.
    12AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Re: #7
    >Square Enix leaned into casual players
    Isn't it the other way around?
    Aren't "casual players" here basically the general public/mass audience?
    I feel like both FromSoftware and Resident Evil are pushing Square Enix closer to a "depopulated village with no children being born" kind of state (a dying, shrinking community).
    9AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:22
    Young people not playing social games that waste money and time — that's smart. I don't play them either.
    20AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:26
    Re: #9
    Though apparently they're getting even dumber from short-form videos instead.
    10AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:22
    lol calling him a "journalist"
    Spreading your own baseless delusions as fact is way more "tipa"-efficient.
    57AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:55
    Re: #10
    No, that's actually correct.
    They've stopped even playing social games and just kill time with short-form videos.
    The era where "killing time" automatically meant "playing games" is simply over.
    11AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    If you're just killing time, you don't even need games anymore.
    13AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    My image of social games is just boring mini-games with a visual-novel story sequence tacked on as a reward.
    22AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:27
    When you're young, it's better to spend money on other things, so Gen Z is smart about this.
    Of course, even past your 30s, not touching gacha games at all is still the best move.
    25AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:29
    Re: #22
    Who knows.
    They might be dropping cash on "tip" donations for streamers instead.
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:41
    Re: #22
    Probably donation tipping.
    I think the #1 hobby among teenage girls was "oshi-katsu" (fan-support activities for idols/influencers).
    41AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:43
    Re: #1
    No, it's not that they're chasing "tipa."
    It's just that they're sick of the exploitative gacha structure, and the smart ones who haven't gotten hooked yet are rejecting it before they fall in.

    It's just that gacha is hated — framing it as "tipa" is way too broad a claim.
    70AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:13
    Re: #41
    Re: #1 just wants to say "tipa," that's all.
    Gacha has nothing to do with it either.
    They watch short videos just because they're trending.
    They watch just to keep up with conversations so they don't get left out.
    They played social games before for the same reason — just going along with everyone else.
    In the past people got their info from TV and magazines; now the trendy info source just happens to be short-form video.
    45AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:48
    The bar for entry into games itself is simply too high now — only the "cream" of today's kids can even engage with them.

    Short-form video → the algorithm automatically picks something entertaining, and you know if it's fun within the first second.

    Games → you have to choose what to play yourself, and it takes several minutes before you know if it's fun.

    As a result, only the proactive, high-attention-span "cream" of young people can still play games at all.
    50AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:50
    Re: #45
    Nah, that's too broad a claim lol.
    It's more like polarization — there's definitely a split by class/tier —
    but lately parents are finally catching up with the times,
    so even in ordinary households, plenty of families can properly judge what's good or bad and pass that on through education.
    71AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:18
    Re: #45
    What it really means is that game ads are losing to short-form video.
    Square Enix and other social-game makers run their ads in between short videos,
    but those aren't received as an intriguing game introduction — they're just perceived as annoying noise.

    So the games themselves never get any interest, and without interest people don't buy them or spend money on them.
    Within the first second, viewers go "yeah yeah, another boring, generic game ad" and just scroll past.

    That's exactly why something like a Nintendo Direct is so valuable and important — a broadcast that a huge, wide cross-section of people actively choose to go watch and pay attention to.
    51AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:51
    A YouTuber couple in their 20s with 1.5 million subscribers (got engaged, then divorced a year later) announced they'd built a passive-income portfolio worth several hundred million yen in savings, generating 7 million yen a year, and achieved FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early).

    The ultimate winners of modern consumer culture.
    52AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:52
    Re: #51
    There were way more nouveau-riche types like that back in the day.
    Are you underestimating the Bubble-era generation or something?
    55AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:53
    I mean, the mobile games people on the console-war boards call "social games" have already lost all their social element — they're just boring solo grind games with gacha bolted on to let you progress.
    The era of posting "yay I got the character I wanted!" on social media and getting likes is over too.
    That has nothing to do with "tipa" — it's just a money pit with no point in playing.
    59AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:56
    Re: #55
    They're satisfying their need for validation on social media, and feeling like they're sharing the experience with streamers (lol) and influencers —
    isn't that a legitimate form of social interaction?
    73AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:26
    lol never heard of this Mikami guy, for real
    76AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:33
    Re: #73
    He's on TV news programs a lot.
    Same with that "Ishi-something" guy too.

    Still no Switch 2 Fold yet?
    95AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:26
    Young people are something else.
    They don't even do anything themselves anymore — they just swallow whatever falls in front of them.
    This is beyond "the masses are pigs" at this point.
    They're more like sea squirts or sponges — creatures that just passively filter-feed.
    100AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:37
    Re: #95
    Can't be helped, that's just the world we live in.
    Even we were spoiled by grandparents who knew postwar hardship, and got fed until there was food to spare.
    For today's kids, that same spoiling has just extended to content and pleasure.
    It's the "happiness" humanity has always been chasing.
    99AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Who the hell is Hiroshi Mikami anyway?
    101AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:42
    Re: #99
    He's a huge celebrity with 300 regular TV appearances.
    There's no Japanese person who doesn't know him.
    105AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:46
    Re: #101
    Those can't all be regular slots though.
    103AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:43
    Are you an idiot? Someone who actually values "tipa" wouldn't waste their time on short-form videos in the first place.
    106AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:49
    Re: #103
    For these "dopamine kids," tipa just means how much dopamine they can squeeze out per unit of time.
    107AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:49
    Some people treat social games like "quick, easy fun," but free-to-play social games actually take an incredibly long time before they become genuinely enjoyable.

    Early on, they keep the difficulty low so you don't quit, so you're just stuck mashing buttons through dull, repetitive battles.

    Partway through, tedious progression systems, grindy repeat-farming, and item-collecting side quests start piling on — with "do this or your character growth stalls" pressure.
    Growth is slow, and you can't fill out your roster without gacha-pulling constantly.

    Only after you understand the systems, assemble a decent roster on your own, get your characters built up, and push well into the content do you finally reach the point of an actual game — "think for yourself, build your team, and see if your strategy works."

    Even with expensive, flashy production values, the cost-performance and time-performance are both terrible.
    And the content itself is aimed at mass appeal, so there's nothing distinctive about it — just formulaic drama you've seen a hundred times before.
    109AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:50
    Re: #107
    But it's still convenient since you don't need a game console.

    Background and key points of this topic

    Free-to-play mobile games have long relied on gacha-based microtransactions as their main revenue source, but in recent years they’ve faced criticism that “gacha preys on gambling psychology,” along with competition for people’s free time from fully free short-form video platforms like TikTok. Where the thread split was over how to interpret young people’s exodus from social games: as a shift in consumer behavior toward “valuing tipa (time efficiency),” or as “a rejection of the gacha payment structure itself.” The former position aligns with Mikami’s analysis, while the latter counters that “tipa is just an excuse — the real issue is distrust of gacha.” Neither view goes beyond speculation. It’s also worth noting that Hiroshi Mikami is an IT journalist who appears on TV news programs, not a gaming-industry expert — a detail that isn’t obvious from the original article or headline alone, which is part of why some thread commenters said they’d “never heard of him.”

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Mikami: ‘Young people today don’t play social games. TikTok is enough for them, games are a hassle. What they want is tipa’.”

  • First-Date Etiquette: 5ch Says “Check Your Nails and Nose Hair”

    On 5ch’s “Anything Goes Live” board, a poster with a first date scheduled for the next day started a thread asking what they should watch out for. Replies poured in with concrete advice, ranging from grooming details like nails, nose hair, and arm hair, to how to pick a meeting spot, to the rule of thumb that a first date should wrap up early. Opinions on smoking, though, split right down the middle — some argued it’s attractive, others warned it’s a turn-off nowadays — and someone even suggested just asking an AI, leaving the thread without a clear consensus.

    1AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:17
    I've got a date tomorrow with someone I've never met in person before — could you all give me some pointers on what to watch out for on a date?
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:28
    A café's too roundabout, just go to an izakaya.
    43AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:30
    Re: #37
    Not much point going to an izakaya if I can't drink…
    We're just having lunch anyway.
    44AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:30
    I've never actually been on a date myself, but
    apparently looking clean is what matters most.
    Good luck, OP.
    53AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Re: #44
    I bought new clothes, and I'll check my nails and nose hair like you said.
    I'm also thinking I should shave the hair on my arms and fingers, just in case.
    I'll be extra careful drawing my eyebrows in too, more than usual.

    I really wanted to get my hair done as well, but I'm in the middle of growing it out right now, so I'll just style it to cover that up.
    46AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:31
    If you don't nail down the meeting spot properly, you'll end up panicking when you can't find each other
    I've had trouble plenty of times with buildings — one of us at the wrong entrance, or on the wrong floor.
    50AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:32
    Re: #46
    What is this, the Showa era? You can just text these days, grandpa.
    55AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Re: #46
    True. We're planning to meet at the station, just to be safe.
    48AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:31
    After you eat lunch, hey, how about going to play some baseball⚾ Crack!
    54AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:34
    Re: #48
    Apparently it's best to end a first date early, so I'm planning to keep it to just lunch!
    51AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:33
    Bring a handkerchief and tissues
    And while you're at the nails, watch out for finger hair and any stray stubble you missed shaving.
    59AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:36
    Re: #51
    I always carry a handkerchief. Good point about tissues too. I'll watch out for my nails and any noticeable stray hair. I've got a good National-brand razor too, so I'll take care of my stubble.
    52AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:33
    Make sure you give her a parting gift when you say goodbye
    I'm dead serious about this one.
    61AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:36
    Re: #52
    A parting gift? We're not even coming back from a trip.
    56AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:35
    The moment you walk in, bow to the camera first thing
    Same goes for whenever you pass a staff member.
    62AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:36
    Re: #56
    Lol, it's not a TV shoot, where's there even a camera
    Wait, do you mean I should bow at my phone's camera?
    57AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:35
    Go to the bathroom too many times, or take too long in there, and you'll get dumped
    Skip the drinks and eat light.
    63AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:37
    Re: #57
    Why would I go to the bathroom multiple times — you mean going several times in a short span?
    The food should be light anyway since we're just going to a café.
    60AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:36
    Alright, I'll go ask Chappy (Japanese internet nickname for ChatGPT) for you — hang tight while I hit the bathroom!
    66AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:38
    Re: #60
    At this point I'll take AI advice too! Thanks in advance!
    69AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:39
    Re: #66
    Don't go relying on AI for this
    What month do you think it is? It's autumn!
    Just go grab an iced coffee at a coffee shop and talk about which mountain to go chestnut-picking on.
    71AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:40
    Re: #66
    According to Chappy:

    Pay smoothly, don't fumble with the bill.
    Don't bring up heavy topics — focus on securing a promise for a next date.

    Good luck!
    68AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:39
    Guys who smoke regular cigarettes are popular, y'know.
    70AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:40
    Re: #68
    I've actually been thinking I'd like to try smoking at some point.
    72AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:41
    Re: #70
    Seriously, don't start smoking — you'll get addicted and have a brutal time trying to quit.
    77AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:43
    Re: #70
    That's the one thing you should not do.
    88AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:50
    Thinking smoking is cool nowadays is such a Showa-era mindset
    A lot of women especially find it off-putting.
    93AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:55
    Re: #88
    My family home is old-fashioned in a lot of ways, and I personally like the Showa era and older things, so that might be influencing me.
    When I watch old movies, I can't help but idolize it a bit.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Advice emphasizing grooming details like “nails,” “nose hair,” and “body hair,” as seen in this thread, is a standard response in 5ch relationship-advice threads, reflecting a mindset that treats a sense of cleanliness as the key measure of a first impression. Opinions on smoking split sharply between “it’s attractive” and “it’s a turn-off nowadays,” a divide that reflects declining smoking rates and shifting attitudes toward secondhand smoke, and is a topic where views tend to differ by generation. While the thread produced concrete advice on how to choose a meeting spot and the rule of thumb to end a first date early, it’s worth noting that some points that commonly come up in real first-date advice — like how to handle the bill or what to talk about — weren’t addressed here.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Anything Goes Live) thread “Things to Watch Out for on a First Date.”

  • Former Morning Musume Member & TV Tokyo Announcer Rio Kitagawa’s “Got My Job Offer 2 Years Ago” Post Sparks Speculation Over Her Graduation Timing

    Rio Kitagawa, a former member of the idol group Morning Musume who now works as an announcer at TV Tokyo, sparked discussion on 5ch (a major Japanese anonymous forum, formerly 2channel) after posting on the station’s official Instagram: “Before I knew it, it’s almost been 2 years…!! This is a memory photo from the day I got my job offer (naitei — the formal, pre-graduation job acceptance notice common in Japanese hiring).” Kitagawa left the idol group and transitioned into a TV announcer career following a scandal involving leaked information about her dating life and private life. In the thread, opinions split over how the timing of her job offer relates to the circumstances of her idol “graduation” (sotsugyou — the standard term idols use for leaving a group), and whether the timing of her departure had actually been decided long in advance.

    1AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:05
    So her Morning Musume graduation route was already set in stone 2 years ago, huh
    2AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:06
    https://gzo.ai/i/sZhpRf3.jpg
    64AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:20
    Re: #2
    See, the job offer really did come early
    Told you so
    4AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:07
    So wait, does that mean…
    was that whole leaked-photo scandal actually a script written by the agency and Kitagawa herself?
    Because otherwise there's no way their ace could suddenly quit Morning Musume
    It's also weird that whoever leaked it still hasn't been arrested
    72AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:21
    Re: #4
    Nope, that's not it
    The original plan was a joint graduation for Kitagawa and Yokoyama at Yokohama Arena (a major concert venue) at the end of last year
    92AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:25
    Re: #4
    Nah, she could've just said 'I found a new goal' and quit like normal, lol
    That's how past star members like Sayashi Riho left too
    13AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:09
    If things had gone as planned, she probably would've had an amicable graduation during last fall's tour
    34AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:14
    Re: #13
    That's exactly why — a triple graduation concert with Yokoyama and Haga all at once would've been too much of a burden
    so she stepped back
    Just bad timing
    19AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:10
    Obviously they couldn't just fire her once her job offer was locked in, lol
    Also I bet it was either the guy or a friend who leaked it
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:12
    Re: #19
    The dating photos weren't even leaked, the guy just posted them normally
    Kitagawa herself said the slander against other members came from a female friend
    33AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:13
    Did Rio-chan only interview at TV Tokyo?
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:14
    https://i.daily.jp/gossip/2026/08/22/Images/f_20733037.jpg
    43AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:15
    She was all set for an amicable exit and then the leak happened
    49AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:17
    Re: #43
    First off, realize you can't exactly job-hunt like a regular person while hiding it from your agency
    46AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:16
    If Kitagawa hadn't messed up,
    the plan was for her and Haga to have a joint graduation last fall
    Yokoyama's mental health issue was the unexpected part
    84AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Re: #46
    No, it was a joint graduation for Kitagawa and Yokoyama
    51AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:17
    Re: #1-2
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DcvfMPLEg3y/



    Story (Instagram Stories)


    rio_kitagawa_tx

    Before I knew it, it's almost been 2 years…!!
    This is a memory photo from the day I got my job offer 📸

    Starting today,
    applications are open for the final selection round
    for our Class of 2028 (students graduating university in 2028) new-grad announcer hiring!

    Looking forward to your applications!

    @tx_recruit

    #TVTokyo
    63AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:19
    Since she already had a newscaster job lined up at TV Tokyo,
    that's probably why they let her 'graduate' instead of just kicking her out or firing her outright, even after all that
    77AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:21
    Re: #63
    Was that whole thing really that bad though?
    65AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:20
    I wonder how far back she'd been planning this
    Did she become an idol as a stepping stone to becoming an announcer?
    79AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Honestly the leaked photos with the guy were the bigger shock to me
    91AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:25
    Re: #79
    It's basically been swept under the rug, so it's fine now
    86AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Rio-Rio's motivation meter
    94AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:25
    Re: #86
    Turns out she just started updating it less and less once she began aiming to become an announcer
    108AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:29
    Re: #90
    That's a judgment call for whoever's putting the info out
    Kitagawa's only been handed rookie-level assignments so far
    116AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:32
    Re: #108
    Sounds like you still think announcer Kitagawa is being frozen out

    Background and key points of the debate

    Announcer hiring at Japanese TV stations generally follows the “shinsotsu ikkatsu saiyo” system — simultaneous, single-batch recruiting of new university graduates — in which job offers go out in the fall of a student’s third year, while the actual start date isn’t until the following spring, roughly a year and a half to two years later. A gap of that length between offer and start date is nothing unusual. Read one way, Kitagawa’s post is simply her reflecting on that ordinary hiring timeline. But because the timing overlaps with when she left Morning Musume (amid the scandal over leaked information about her dating life and private life), the thread filled with speculation that her graduation from the group may have already been decided before the job offer even came through. It’s worth stressing this isn’t an officially confirmed fact — it’s speculation built entirely on a coincidence in timing. Several posts also flatly asserted the hiring was secured through “connections” (kone), but since no evidence was given for that claim, those posts have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project subforum) thread “Announcer Rio Kitagawa: ‘Before I knew it, it’s been 2 years since I got my job offer’ — this.”

  • Showa-Era Company Trip Photo Sparks ‘AI or Real?’ Debate on 5ch: “Their Teeth Are Too Perfect”

    On 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (Anything Live Broadcast) board, an image purportedly showing a company trip from the Showa era became a hot topic. Some users suspected it was AI-generated, citing the uniformly straight teeth and unnaturally high image quality, while others pushed back, pointing to the quirks of disposable cameras from the era — like the “Utsurun-desu” — arguing “even a real photo would look like this.” The debate over authenticity dragged on, alongside a split reaction to the era’s company culture — mandatory trips on days off, drinking, and smoking treated as normal — with some calling it “hell” and others saying “I’m jealous.”

    6AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:07
    Work was brutal back then, but it was an era full of hope
    7AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:07
    When there's a woman like this around, the drinking party actually gets fun
    14AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:09
    Everyone's teeth are way too perfect, this has to be AI
    15AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:09
    Jealous they can get this hyped just off drinking
    20AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:11
    A dream era where bonuses apparently weren't even taxed
    24AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:12
    Beer that looks like Asahi but isn't Asahi
    31AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:14
    Re: #24
    They called it "Ginnama" (silver draft)
    25AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:13
    It was an era when you could actually enjoy this kind of thing

    Just not the case anymore these days
    34AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:16
    Sounds like hell
    Why would you have to spend unpaid hours with people from work
    35AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:18
    The classic "didn't want to go but ended up having a blast" situation
    36AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:18
    Not a single beer label is even facing the camera, impossible to tell what brand it is
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:19
    It's supposed to be an old photo but the quality is way too good
    38AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:19
    "Drinking and smoking were just the norm back then"
    ↑
    Sounds like hell to me lol
    40AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:20
    Looks fun
    Wish I'd been born in that era
    46AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Re: #40
    You only got one day off a week
    And even that day off was spent hanging out with coworkers
    53AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:25
    Re: #40
    "Can you work 24 hours?" (famous old energy-drink ad slogan)
    45AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Say what you want, but once you're actually there it's fun
    47AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:23
    Judging by the second photo there's no garbled text, so probably not AI
    51AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:25
    Re: #47
    AI's moved past the garbled-text-giveaway stage lately
    48AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:24
    Not a single ashtray either
    A party from this era should be filled with smoke — guess AI has trouble with that due to content filters
    49AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:24
    If it were real, I'd expect cigarettes and ashtrays
    54AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:26
    Everyone's still got that same identical laughing face
    But AI's come a long way though
    55AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:26
    When these guys say they worked late every night, that included drinking and mahjong too
    69AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:32
    Re: #55
    Back then, with no internet, no home consoles, no satellite TV, a single guy going home would seriously have nothing to do
    Maybe just reading and watching videos…
    57AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:28
    Why do they all look like they're having so much fun
    60AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:29
    Feels like you couldn't get through it without drinking
    61AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:29
    Young male employees doing a naked bit for laughs was just standard
    62AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:30
    Back then, when an amateur photographed a crowded scene like this, this is just how it turned out
    Don't forget, there was no autofocus and lenses were still pretty crude
    The popular "Utsurun-desu" disposable camera was only about 3.5 megapixels at best
    92AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:50
    Re: #62
    In reality, firing the flash would only light up the people in front while everyone else came out dark
    95AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:54
    Re: #62
    The Utsurun-desu's lens was crude, sure, but the film itself has near-infinite resolution
    If that photo looks rough, it's a print-quality issue — if the film survived in good shape, you could get a much cleaner print out of it today
    63AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:30
    There's probably an original photo, and they're crudely editing the women's chests to look more exposed
    The people in the photo must be pretty upset about it
    64AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:30
    I want a bit more of an obvious giveaway to point at
    66AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:31
    Guys back then would work until like 9pm on Friday
    Then speed down the highway to a ski lodge
    Meet up with everyone for a party
    Sleep 2-3 hours and hit the slopes in the morning — an insane lifestyle
    75AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:36
    Even today, volunteer fire brigades still do New Year's trips like this
    82AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:42
    Re: #75
    The fire brigade I'm in doesn't do parties, they just hand us the money instead

    Context and Key Talking Points

    The “Utsurun-desu” was a disposable camera Fujifilm released in 1986; given the lens and flash performance of the time, image quality tended to get grainy in backlit or dimly-lit banquet halls. On the thread, discussion spread around trying to judge authenticity based on signs said to be typical of generative AI — “the teeth are too evenly aligned,” “no garbled text” — while counterarguments pointed out that the film itself had high resolution and that the roughness was really a print-quality issue. The custom of company trips became established as a flagship employee benefit from the postwar economic boom through the bubble era, but has since scaled back alongside work-style reforms and a growing emphasis on respecting personal time off. The thread’s energy was driven less by the question of whether the image was real and more by astonishment at the sheer amount of unpaid company time it depicted — something unthinkable today.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Image] The Showa-Era Company Trip lolololololololol.”

  • Kaishu Sano Could Make Last-Minute Premier League Move — German Report Meets Skepticism on 5ch

    German outlet Bild reported on September 1 that a Premier League move may be on the cards for Japan international midfielder Kaishu Sano, currently of Mainz. The transfer fee is said to be around €30 million (roughly ¥5.2 billion), though Mainz sporting director Christian Heidel had previously ruled out a late sale, saying, “We won’t let him go at the end of August — there wouldn’t be time to bring in a replacement.” Europe’s summer transfer window is set to close on September 1 European time (early morning of September 2 in Japan). On the 5ch Geisports Sokuho+ (entertainment/sports news board) thread, users questioned whether the reported fee was too low and wondered whether the story was the kind of unreliable “deadline-day filler” typical of transfer-window silly season.

    A possible Premier League move has emerged for Mainz’s Japan international midfielder Kaishu Sano, German newspaper Bild reported on the 1st.

    Is Kaishu Sano headed to the Premier League?

    Until now, Sano had been widely expected to stay at Mainz through the summer. Indeed, Mainz sporting director Christian Heidel had previously denied a last-minute departure for Sano, telling Bild, “We won’t let him go on August 27 or 28 — if we did, we wouldn’t be able to bring in a replacement.”

    Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:44
    So he's just keeping one foot out the door for now?
    8AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:47
    Kamada, Tomiyasu, and now Sano Kaishu
    Classic panic buy, but there's no time left.
    9AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:47
    Word is Liverpool are the frontrunners, apparently.
    10AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:48
    €30 million wouldn't even buy one of Kaishu's legs.
    11AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:48
    Here comes the 'Notr piggy geezer' losing it again (mocking nickname for a certain type of 5ch poster).
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:58
    The 'don't do winter transfers' uncle, chiming in with: 'Don't do winter transfers.'
    27AnonymousSep 1, 2026 21:59
    Is today really the deadline?
    Well, it's European time, so it'll run until about 7am Japan time.
    28AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:00
    Go to City! No Japanese players there yet.
    29AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:01
    Just write the article once it's actually official.
    34AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:06
    Is there some kind of pay-the-rest-later deal for the shortfall?
    36AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:06
    That fee only makes sense for a Premier-to-Premier move, I'd think.
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:07
    Palace look like relegation candidates on current form.
    39AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:10
    €30 million is a non-starter.
    43AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:12
    Wait, Newcastle are letting Woltemade go to Juve too?
    Do they even have any players left?
    44AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:12
    Mainz played hardball right up to the wire
    and probably dropped the price anyway.
    46AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:14
    So in Japan time that's until dawn tomorrow, huh.
    48AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:16
    The big deals get sorted out first, after all.
    56AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:20
    Re: #48
    Not necessarily
    You never know what'll happen at the last minute
    Remember Nagatomo's move to Inter? That was wild
    Though he tarnished it a bit in his later years.
    50AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:17
    If there's already a Japanese player there, at least he won't get singled out, right?
    54AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:18
    This one'll probably fall through, but staying at Mainz wouldn't be bad either
    The real problem child is Nakamura down in France's Ligue 2.
    55AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:19
    No way Mainz sells him at a discount like that with no time left to bring in a replacement.
    57AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:22
    Mainz probably want something like ¥10 billion for him — this is half that lol
    Doesn't seem like Mainz has any reason to rush a sale right now.
    58AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:22
    Hey, Old Man Wao! Stake your reputation and make the call! lol
    60AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:23
    They've already got Kamada and Wharton, so what are they even doing?
    64AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:27
    Does Palace even realize the Asian Cup is coming up?
    65AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:31
    Even the guys playing abroad get paid miserably little in soccer, huh.
    67AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:33
    It's already September — transfers are still happening?
    70AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:34
    Re: #67
    Because of the World Cup, I think the big five leagues' window runs until tomorrow?

    Background and Talking Points

    Kaishu Sano is a Japan international midfielder who has played for Bundesliga side Mainz since 2023. This report comes from Germany’s Bild, and the key point is its timing — right at the very end of the summer transfer window (so-called deadline day, closing September 1 European time / early morning of the 2nd in Japan). Mainz sporting director Christian Heidel had previously denied any last-minute exit, saying “There’s no time to bring in a replacement, so there won’t be a departure at the end of August,” and many replies focused on how that squares with this new report, along with pointed skepticism that the reported fee of €30 million (roughly ¥4.8 billion) is far too cheap for a key defensive midfielder. Commenters also poked fun at the classic late-window “panic buy” narrative and the way local and Japanese outlets feed off each other’s reporting to hype up these stories, with doubt about the move happening outweighing belief that it will. Note: this article excludes baseless, sexual-crime-related insults directed at a real player that appeared in the original thread.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Kaishu Sano’s Premier League move resurfaces at the last minute! Mainz offered around ¥5.2 billion?“

  • Sakura Ishiyama’s Whole Sweet Potato Turns Her Pork Soup Ultra-Sweet — 5ch: ‘Wife Material Confirmed’

    Idol group Juice=Juice member Sakura Ishiyama reported on the group’s official blog that after tossing one whole sweet potato into her tonjiru (pork and vegetable miso soup), it came out sweeter than she expected. When the post got reposted to 5ch’s Hello! Project board, the discussion drifted away from the food itself and into whether someone living alone would really bother making a labor-intensive dish like tonjiru. The thread also dug up her habitual anecdotes — like buying huge amounts of sliced bread or a three-seater sofa — with many commenters praising her homemaker-like personality.

    Made tonjiru today

    Since I had a sweet potato lying around

    The more you put in, the tastier it gets, right!

    Source: ameblo.jp / Read the original post here

    2AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:35
    My mom's tonjiru has sweet potato in it too, it's too sweet, I won't eat it
    5AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:36
    Would a woman living alone actually buy a sweet potato?
    7AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:38
    A cooking report… ugh, my head… (a joking 'painful flashback' meme reaction)
    8AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:38
    Her omurice egg game is on point
    I'd burn mine for sure
    9AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:38
    I'd buy one lol
    11AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:39
    There's a guy reflected in the plate
    12AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:39
    Tonjiru is one of those foods that scores big homemaker points
    13AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:39
    She really is the homemaker type, huh
    14AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:39
    Wife material confirmed
    15AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:40
    By the way, sweet potato is also supposed to be a stamina booster 🤗
    16AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:40
    She's marriage-ready any day now
    19AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:45
    What we really need is a non-sweet sweet potato variety made for miso soup
    20AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:47
    Nobody living alone makes tonjiru
    21AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:47
    Honestly sweet potato just dissolves and makes the soup gritty, that alone kills it for me
    25AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:49
    I cook for myself and tonjiru's a totally normal thing to make
    26AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:49
    What is this omurice, it looks like one of those yes/no nodding pillows (a wobbly novelty toy that nods or shakes its head)
    27AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:49
    If you skip the ginger, taro's great too — taro goes amazingly well in soups
    28AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:49
    Tonjiru's exactly the kind of thing you'd make
    You get your veggies and meat in one shot
    31AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:50
    Born and raised in Tokyo, yet somehow lives alone in Tokyo anyway
    Ends up making like 10 servings of tonjiru
    Somehow buys more sliced bread than one person could ever finish
    Lives alone but buys a three-seater sofa
    Gets so down sometimes that Arisawa comes and stays over for three days straight to cheer her up
    34AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:52
    Re: #31
    That's gotta be a red flag for an idol, no way around it
    40AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:56
    Re: #31
    She's in college, right
    She said '1 serving = 1 bowl,' so that math checks out
    It was about the size of two loaves of 4- or 6-slice bread, so buying that much is normal
    Lying down on the sofa, that's normal too — honestly buying a single-seat sofa while living alone would be weirder
    And the ending is just a genuinely nice story
    32AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:50
    If anything tonjiru's as basic as curry
    We made it in home ec class
    36AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:52
    Well, if you battle-hardened veterans say so, guess that settles it
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:52
    Well, cooking is something you do for someone else after all
    38AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:53
    Maybe she had a huge fight with her boyfriend and was down about it?
    39AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:55
    She was probably living with some big-eating athlete guy
    42AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:58
    A sofa you can cuddle on while watching movies sounds nice
    45AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:59
    Do the 'wolf' uncles (older fans always hunting for hints of a boyfriend) read this as a hint too?
    50AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:00
    So many juicy anecdotes about her
    The bond behind 'Ichisaku' (a fan nickname for a close member pairing) must be the real deal
    53AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:02
    Having a guy around is exactly what lets an idol push through her activities
    54AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:04


    57AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:06
    Wanting to cook despite being kind of a sloppy person by nature is basically her confirming she wants to go all out for a guy
    58AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:06
    "Oops, I made too much tonjiru…"

    What do you do?
    59AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:06
    Ishiyama's such a big eater she got a D rating on her health checkup from eating too much Jiro (the notoriously huge-portion ramen chain)
    60AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:07
    Dizzy for You ☆ Climax
    61AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:08
    "CanCam" August 2026 issue (on sale June 2026)
    Juice=Juice Member Profile (excerpt)

    Q5. What's something you always end up buying at the convenience store?

    Sakura Ishiyama: Fried chicken and Jiro-style ramen

    Background and Points of Debate

    Sakura Ishiyama is a member of Juice=Juice who shares updates on her daily life through the group’s official Ameblo blog. This post was originally just a lighthearted account of a cooking mishap — not measuring the sweet potato properly — but on the 5ch thread, the discussion moved past the food itself into a broader debate about lifestyle: whether someone living alone would really bother making something as involved as tonjiru. Opinions split between those who see tonjiru as a laborious dish and those who consider it a basic recipe taught in home economics class. The thread also revisited older anecdotes — like her buying huge quantities of sliced bread or a three-seater sofa — sparking speculation about her private life. It’s worth noting this speculation comes entirely from 5ch users and has not been confirmed as fact by Ishiyama herself or her agency.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Sakura Ishiyama: ‘I made tonjiru, and since I had a sweet potato I figured the more the merrier! So I put in a whole one, and it came out sweet’.”

  • 56% of Japanese Teens Say They Don’t Want to Pay Pension Premiums — School Lessons Make a Big Difference in Attitudes

    A survey on social security awareness among junior high and high school students, reported by Bengoshi JP News, found that 56% of respondents said they don’t want to pay pension premiums in the future. This is the first nationwide survey of its kind targeting students from junior high through high school, and it also revealed a stark gap in how convinced students are of the pension system depending on whether they’d learned about it in class. On 5channel, a lively debate broke out over whether the pension system truly amounts to a “losing bet,” or whether it’s actually a good deal once benefits like disability pensions are factored in — with the discussion ranging from welfare (seikatsu hogo) comparisons to whether self-directed investing through NISA (Japan’s tax-free investment account) would be a better bet.

    56% of Junior High and High School Students Say “I Don’t Want to Pay Pension Premiums”… Fears of “Intergenerational Unfairness,” With a Big Gap in “Understanding” Depending on Whether They Learned About It in Class | Bengoshi JP News

    Tetsuya Enokizono, September 1, 2026, 17:58

    “I don’t want to pay pension premiums in the future.” The anxiety teenagers feel about social security has now been quantified by a “Survey on Social Security Awareness Among Junior High and High School Students.” This is the first nationwide survey of its kind covering students from junior high through high school.

    Source: ben54.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:05
    If you don't pay, you just lose your own benefits — seems fine to me?
    29AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:15
    Re: #5
    The right to receive it is basically worthless anyway, so refusing to pay isn't a problem at all
    16AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:10
    People have been saying they don't want to pay pension since 60 years ago
    That's exactly what's led to today's elderly with no pension
    Well, welfare (namapo, slang for public assistance) bails them out though
    37AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:18
    Re: #16
    Back then national pension premiums were cheap, so not paying was just plain stupid
    Even at minimum wage, 50 years ago you could cover it with 4 hours of work
    Nowadays even 16 hours' worth of pay from two full workdays won't cover it
    Maybe you could in Tokyo though…
    19AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:11
    This generation is very likely to end up on the losing end of the deal
    23AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:14
    Re: #19
    You think so?
    By the time today's junior high schoolers start collecting their pension, I think they'll be sitting pretty.
    Either way, the Ice Age Generation (the "employment ice age" cohort who graduated into Japan's lost decades) is absorbing all the downside, so I don't think anyone after them loses out.
    27AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:15
    An insurance plan that's a 100% guaranteed loss is basically a scam
    40AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:19
    Re: #27
    The fact that it includes disability pension already means it's not a 100% loss.

    Don't tell me you're equating welfare with disability pension, lol.
    The amount of freedom you have in your life is worlds apart.
    42AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:20
    Re: #27
    Most people end up receiving more in pension than they paid in
    How is that a loss??
    89AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:34
    Re: #27
    The Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare has long maintained that pension premiums aren't savings but a way of supporting today's elderly, and that calling it a "losing bet" completely misses the point
    36AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:18
    Guess you don't get that paying into the pension is actually the better deal, lol
    41AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:20
    Re: #36
    I'll just invest it myself
    45AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:21
    Re: #41
    There's no self-directed investment strategy that guarantees better returns than the pension, so…
    46AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:22
    Re: #41
    Best to pay into the pension AND invest on top of it
    Investing isn't guaranteed to succeed either
    Even with All-Country funds (Orukan, a popular low-cost global index fund), who knows what things look like in 30 or 40 years
    54AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:24
    Without a pension, the longer you live, the more your savings dwindle
    People saying they don't need a pension clearly haven't thought this through
    63AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:26
    Re: #54
    Well, without any real-world experience, plenty of kids fall for the idea that "we young people are just getting screwed! I don't wanna pay into the pension!"
    I felt the same way back in middle/high school after seeing those images posted on 2channel showing pensions as a plus for old people and a minus for the young, lol
    56AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:25
    30% of Japanese salarymen work at large corporations

    The remaining 70% work at small and mid-sized companies

    ↑ Is that a 2x gap?
    65AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:27
    Re: #56
    What about the self-employed?
    76AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:30
    A normal household would pay into employees' pension insurance AND max out their NISA every year, plus contribute to their kids' NISA too, no?
    78AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:30
    If you only break even right before you die, there's no point struggling to pay into it
    Especially now that we have NISA
    90AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:34
    Re: #78
    NISA isn't guaranteed to grow either, and the contribution limit caps out at 18 million yen
    Sure, it'd be great if it grew to 100 or 200 million yen like those simulations you always see
    85AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:33
    People saying they don't need a pension and will just invest it themselves
    What are they gonna do if something like the Lehman Shock hits?
    Your principal would take a nosedive instantly
    93AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:34
    Re: #85
    It bounced right back afterward, and has kept hitting new highs ever since though
    94AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:35
    Re: #85
    I made it through the Lehman Shock and I'm still in the black, though?
    151AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:51
    Re: #85
    If you've been investing for years, even during a crash your gains can still be 5x, so I don't worry about it much
    104AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:37
    Re: #1
    Even without a pension, there's still welfare
    And as a safety net, welfare actually lets you live better
    Unless that imbalance gets fixed, I think the number of people arguing pensions are unnecessary will keep growing

    It's true that a pension plan built around paying in for 37 years from age 18 to 55 and collecting from 60 to 70 is collapsing thanks to the average lifespan now being 85
    That said, if you wanted it to guarantee a standard of living equal to your working years, you'd need to put half your earnings into premiums
    And on top of that, health insurance and long-term care insurance hit you hard too, lol
    Abolish it? …There's no way that could actually happen
    109AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:38
    Re: #104
    That's not really the problem — the real issue is that a shrinking working-age population has to support a growing number of pension recipients because of the low birthrate and aging population
    Though of course there's also the "vanished pensions" scandal on top of that
    187AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:03
    Re: #109
    If pensions were abolished, kids would end up taking care of their parents like in the old days
    Back then, the eldest son's family would stay with the parents to look after them, or if they'd moved to the city, they'd take the parents in
    Nowadays with fewer children, a married couple would end up taking in and caring for both sets of aging parents — and since nobody wants that, the pension system was created
    If a parent becomes bedridden it gets even more of a hassle, so long-term care insurance was created to deal with that
    If you scrap both pension systems and refuse to take care of them, parents will have to start taking defensive measures of their own
    Like kicking kids out after junior high, not having kids in the first place, or thinking "prison offers a better life than this"… and acting on it
    134AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:45
    Kids today get all kinds of perks like child allowances and free tuition
    None of that existed back in the day
    139AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:47
    Re: #134
    Oh I know alright, back in the bubble era just parking your money in a post office account earned you 8% interest
    144AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:48
    Re: #134
    With child allowances and stuff you get 3 million yen by age 18, plus 75,000 yen a month in daycare subsidies per kid, lol
    Just from that alone you're getting at least 7 million yen
    143AnonymousSep 1, 2026 22:48
    "That's beyond arrogant"
    Backlash floods in over 72-year-old Waseda University professor emeritus's "generational divide" post


    https://jisin.jp/domestic/2530364/?rf=2
    198AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:07
    Percentage-wise it's not that big a deal these days
    For me, having just over 10,000 yen taken out of my 170,000 yen paycheck was brutal
    A little over 10,000 yen at age 20 is worth something like 300,000 yen at 65
    202AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:09
    Re: #198
    Even counting the roughly 1.7 million yen a year including the employer's contribution, there's just no way you're getting that back, however you look at it
    206AnonymousSep 1, 2026 23:12
    Re: #198
    National pension premiums are around 18,000 yen a month these days

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Japan’s public pension system isn’t a funded savings scheme — it runs on a “pay-as-you-go” basis, where premiums from the working generation support today’s elderly, and the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare maintains that viewing it as a “losing bet” misses the point. The thread tends to reduce this to a simple win/lose calculation, but it’s easy to overlook that the pension covers not just old-age benefits but also protections like disability and survivor pensions, meaning a straight comparison of premiums paid versus benefits received doesn’t capture the full picture. This survey is also the first nationwide one to target junior high and high school students, and the finding that having learned about the system in class affects how convinced students are suggests a need for better financial and social security education. That said, the original article doesn’t break down specific figures by generation, so how large the gap actually is will have to wait for more detailed disclosures.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “56% of Junior High and High School Students Say They Don’t Want to Pay Pension Premiums… Fears of Intergenerational Unfairness, With a Big Gap in Understanding Depending on Whether They Learned About It in Class.”