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  • NHK resumes door-to-door sales visits — 5ch: “Firmly repeat ‘I don’t have one’ and they’ll give up fast”

    NHK has resumed door-to-door sales operations through an outside contractor — sales it discontinued in 2023 — NHK confirmed to reporters on the 21st. The broadcaster has posted deficits ever since cutting its fees that same year, and aims to boost fee revenue by strengthening its sales operations. NHK says it is expanding its in-person approach on a trial basis. On 5ch threads, there was a notable divide between practical tips on how to handle door-to-door reps and differing views over the fact that, while signing a receiving contract is a legal obligation under the Broadcast Act, there’s no criminal penalty for it — enforcement instead comes through civil lawsuits.

    NHK has resumed outsourcing door-to-door sales visits aimed at signing new receiving contracts to an outside contractor, NHK confirmed to reporters on the 21st.

    Contracted door-to-door sales were discontinued in 2023, but the broadcaster has posted deficits ever since that year’s fee cut, and is strengthening its sales operations to boost fee revenue.

    NHK explained: “We have decided to expand our in-person approach on a trial basis.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:11
    What gives these guys the authority to ask 'Do you own a TV?'
    And they ask over and over again.
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Re: #3
    It's stipulated by law.
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    They're just going to get filmed and mocked on X (Twitter).
    The fee collectors can't enjoy this job either.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    They're probably dumping impossible demands on the subcontractors.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:17
    The only party opposed to NHK fees was Tachibana's, and that party is gone now.
    These days both the ruling party and the opposition all support NHK fee collection.
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:21
    My house is being renovated so I'm stuck in a temporary place right now, and I cracked up when a collector showed up at my temporary address.
    I'm already paying the monthly fee under my actual (under-renovation) home address, lol.
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:22
    They rake in 900 billion yen a year in fees
    and the average employee salary is 18 million yen
    yet they still show up at your door like debt collectors.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:26
    I pay mine, so the rest of you should pay up properly too.
    Commercial TV is boring anyway, so it can't be helped.
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:29
    I do intend to pay, but…
    yeah, we can't agree on the monthly amount, so I guess I can't sign the contract
    I intend to pay, but signing a contract is a matter of free will, you know.
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:31
    Well, if you have a receiving device, a contract is mandatory.
    But if you go tuner-less, nobody complains.
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:32
    No matter who shows up, just tell them to leave.
    If they don't leave, that's unlawful refusal to leave (a crime).
    If they let themselves in, that's trespassing.
    If they try to force you into a contract, that's coercion.
    Poor saps who don't realize the person being asked to sign overwhelmingly has the upper hand.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:35
    Re: #15
    The contract is mandatory because it's stipulated by law.
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:33
    Just get an intercom with a video monitor and don't answer.
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:34
    If a cute young woman came to my door I might actually sign up, but it's always shady-looking middle-aged guys, so no thanks.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:35
    So basically they just added more staff to the war of attrition.
    Visiting over and over to see who breaks first first
    — that's the process from their side, after all.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:36
    If you own equipment capable of receiving NHK but don't pay the fee, that is clearly a criminal violation of the law.
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:37
    There are guys who'd fall for a honey trap, so why don't they use that tactic?
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:39
    Sure, I'll pay — once they bring a court search warrant.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:42
    Some guy with a scammer's voice, faking his identity, begging to be let inside — as if.
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:53
    If I ever became Minister of Internal Affairs and Communications, NHK would be the first thing I'd take a scalpel to.
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:55
    Re: #38
    You're never going to become that, though.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:55
    How to avoid paying the fee

    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:04
    They should just moonlight as estate-clearance workers (people who sort through belongings after someone dies).
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:06
    Re: #48
    They'd make more money moonlighting as luxury car thieves.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:07
    If you install equipment capable of receiving NHK (like a TV), signing a receiving contract is legally mandatory and carries legal binding force.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:11
    Re: #51
    That's exactly why I'm saying such an outdated law should be revised immediately.
    That's the Diet's (the legislature's) job.
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:15
    Re: #51
    Wasn't there no penalty for it, though?
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:09
    Wasn't Tachibana the one saying that to sue your way out of paying the fee, you first need a contract — so sign the contract first if you want to fight it in court?
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:13
    Re: #52
    I can't understand anyone who'd actually go through with that.
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:13
    Owning a TV and then claiming you don't have one — that's just petty.
    And you don't even have the guts to switch to a tuner-less set.
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:20
    Enforcement power (court proceedings): If someone has installed a receiver but refuses to sign a contract, NHK can sue, and once a winning verdict (ordering acceptance of the contract) becomes final, the contract is deemed legally established regardless of the person's will — that's the binding force involved.

    Whether there's a penalty: The Broadcast Act itself has no direct criminal penalty (fine or imprisonment) for owning a TV and not signing a contract. However, as noted above, there is a legal risk of being compelled via civil lawsuit to sign a contract or pay unpaid fees.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:22
    But a few days later you'll end up having the exact same conversation again.
    And that just repeats over and over.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:25
    Re: #63Re: #64
    Once you send them away, they won't come back for at least six months, so you'll be fine.
    Actually, nobody's come to my place in almost 10 years now.
    It's a business for them too, so they target people who look like easy marks.
    Firmly repeat "I don't have one" a few times and they'll give up fast.
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:22
    No matter how much you explain and send them off,
    there are multiple contracted companies, so it's just someone from a different company next time — nothing changes.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Under Article 64 of the Broadcast Act, NHK’s receiving contract requirement obligates any household with a receiving device to sign a contract, but the article itself contains no criminal penalty provision — if someone refuses to pay, NHK must file a civil lawsuit, and only once a verdict is finalized is the contract considered established. This system design — “there’s an obligation, but no criminal penalty” — fueled a divide in the thread between posters arguing “the contract is legally mandatory” and those arguing “since there’s no penalty, you don’t have to comply.” Some posts also pointed to the string of lawsuits involving Takashi Tachibana, former leader of the “Party to Protect the People from NHK,” which have built up case law around receiving contracts and non-payment. The deficits following the 2023 fee cut are cited as the direct reason for resuming door-to-door sales, but the original article doesn’t detail the specific sales tactics used by the contracted companies or the quality of their approach — how much the “in-person approach” actually gets ramped up remains to be seen in practice.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “NHK resumes door-to-door sales visits it discontinued in 2023, aiming to boost fee revenue by strengthening its sales operations.”

  • 5ch VIP Marks 10 Years of Quiz Threads with a Respect-for-the-Aged Day Special: “Can’t Help Not Knowing It”

    On 5channel’s News VIP board (news4vip), a buzzer-style quiz tournament was held to mark Respect for the Aged Day. In this template-style thread, quizmaster “Rx” poses questions while participants race to answer and rack up points — this time framed as a special “10th Anniversary SO: Respect for the Aged Commemoration” round. The questions ranged widely, from basic geography (name that salt lake) to trivia about the Naoki Prize won by sci-fi writer Shin’ichi Hoshi, to a pun question tying “Monte Carlo” to earthquake news. Along the way, a dispute broke out over whether “wansaka” (a Japanese word resembling onomatopoeia) really counts as a mimetic word, prompting the quizmaster to revise a ruling after being called out.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:49
    It's Silver Week (the run of holidays around Respect for the Aged Day), so let's all do a quiz!
    ◯ Official wiki: ttps://quizinvip.playing.wiki/
    ◯ Detailed rules: ttps://quizinvip.playing.wiki/d/%a5%c6%a5%f3%a5%d7%a5%ec
    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:50
    Yep, Nada High really was strong (a famously elite school in quiz competitions)
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:51
    Re: #2
    I don't know the details, but since some people
    haven't watched the show yet,
    let's just avoid specific spoilers, okay.
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:50
    【 Answering Points 】
    ◯ One answer attempt per person, 30-second time limit
     
    ◯ Silent symbols can be left out
      Extra characters count as a "wrong answer"
    ※ For now, adding one silent symbol is allowed when answering in half-width numerals
     
    ◯ Names: full name for people from kanji-using cultures,
      surname only is fine for everyone else, as a rule
     
    ◯ Unless stated otherwise, answering in hiragana is fine
      Hiragana OK… for "What's the kanji?" "What's the English word?"
           "What 3-kanji term is this?" etc.
      Hiragana NOT OK… for "《 Specify: kanji 》"
           "Please answer in 3 kanji characters." etc.
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:51
    Part 1: "Respect for the Aged Commemoration"
    【 Quizmaster 】: Rx ◆IRC1/LAAAk

    【 Rules 】
    ◎ Buzzer quiz: 27 questions

    ※ Rules will be adjusted depending on turnout.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:52
    【 Example question (past round) 】 07/01/17 "Ocean S"
    Its salinity is so extremely high that almost no organisms can live there —
    this salt lake, sandwiched between Israel and Jordan, is 【 what 】?
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:52
    I'm watching the High School Quiz Championship later off my recording, so no spoilers please.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:53
    【 Answer 】
    The Dead Sea
    09/21/07 "First" ◆BS1bu/D5xY, adapted

    Re: #10 Correct

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 54:00
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:54
    The hint is that it doesn't ask "which lake?"
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:54
    【 Example question (past round) 】 09/09/17 "Chrysanthemum Prize"
    This is a 【 headline quiz 】.
    What English word fills the blank in this editorial's headline?
     
    [1897/09/21 – The Sun]
    "Is There a 【 what 】?"
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:55
    【 Answer 】
    "Is there a Santa Claus?"
    (Does Santa Claus really exist?)

    No one answered

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 56:00
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:55
    【 Example question (past round) 】 02/09/18 "Start of Spring Special"
    This person, formerly named "Patrick Lafcadio Hearn,"
    worked as a lecturer in English literature at Tokyo Imperial University,

    and is known for his collection of ghost stories including
    "The Story of Mimi-Nashi-Hoichi," "Yuki-Onna," and "Jikininki" —
    who is 【 this person 】?
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:05
    Okay then, 'hammer'
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:05
    【 Answer 】
    Supermarket

    Re: #48-49 Correct
    Re: #50 I wonder if there's demand for a "Hammer Market"

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 06:30
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:07
    Hyara~ri hyariko (a mimicked flute-trilling sound)
    60AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:07
    【 Answer 】
    Yokobue (transverse flute)
    06/23/18 "VIP Derby," heavily adapted

    Re: #54 Correct
    Re: #59 Well, aren't you knowledgeable

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 08:00
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:09
    Exclamation
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:10
    【 Answer 】
    Question mark

    Re: #68 Correct
    Re: #69
    You wrote all that and still got it wrong

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 11:00
    141AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:30
    Part 1: "Respect for the Aged Commemoration"
    【 Quizmaster 】: Rx ◆IRC1/LAAAk

    【 Rules 】
    ◎ Buzzer quiz: 27 questions
    ◎ Three-chance format: 1st place 3pt, 2nd place 2pt, 3rd place 1pt
    152AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:37
    【 10th Anniversary SO "Respect for the Aged Commemoration" 】 in progress!
    Rules: Re: #141

    【 Answer 】
    Wansaka

    【 Ruling 】
    No answers → Void (doesn't count)

    Re: #151
    I see, that might be right by definition,
    so for now I'll rule this one void at the outset.
    Thanks for pointing it out.
    156AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:39
    Monte Carlo
    161AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:40
    【 10th Anniversary SO "Respect for the Aged Commemoration" 】 in progress!
    Rules: Re: #141

    【 Answer 】
    Monte Carlo

    【 Scoring 】
    3pt: Re: #155
    2pt: Re: #156
    1pt: Re: #157

    Heads up, there was a seismic intensity of 3 in the Hyuga-nada Sea (a real-life tie-in to the pun)
    169AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:43
    【 10th Anniversary SO "Respect for the Aged Commemoration" 】 in progress!
    Rules: Re: #141

    【 Answer 】
    The Naoki Prize / Naoki Sanjugo Prize

    【 Scoring 】
    3pt: Re: #166

    The twist might be that the prize had already reached its 44th round
    back when Shin'ichi Hoshi was still unmarried
    144AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:33
    Time to put all that "old-man power" you've built up over the years to the test
    145AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:34
    Re: #144 That's enviable! (flattery)
    151AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:36
    "Wansaka" isn't a mimetic word, is it
    155AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:39
    Monte Carlo
    157AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:39
    monte-karuro (a hiragana misspelling of "Monte Carlo")
    160AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:40
    Honestly, I don't know any of this at all
    162AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:41
    【 Scores 】
    03 (01-00-00): ID:buePsmTA0
    02 (00-01-00): ID:BaUc9DiS0
    01 (00-00-01): ID:pPIlYs6M0
    00 (00-00-00): ID:ESp6eLwk0
    00 (00-00-00): (everyone who joined partway through)
    No answers: 0, Void: 1

    Re: #160
    Can't help not knowing what you don't know

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 42:00
    168AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:42
    No idea whether Shin'ichi Hoshi even counts as sci-fi
    171AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:43
    【 Scores 】
    03 (01-00-00): ID:ESp6eLwk0
    03 (01-00-00): ID:buePsmTA0
    02 (00-01-00): ID:BaUc9DiS0
    01 (00-00-01): ID:pPIlYs6M0
    00 (00-00-00): (everyone who joined partway through)
    No answers: 0, Void: 1

    Re: #168
    Not sure about sci-fi, but he does seem to have been
    recognized within entertainment literature

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 45:00
    172AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:43
    Honestly, I didn't think that kind of literary award would ever pick a short story collection
    173AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:44
    Re: #172
    I thought the same, that's why I put that question out there
    180AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    That answer really shows you didn't read the rest of the question
    182AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:46
    【 Scores 】
    06 (02-00-00): ID:buePsmTA0
    03 (01-00-00): ID:ESp6eLwk0
    02 (00-01-00): ID:BaUc9DiS0
    01 (00-00-01): ID:pPIlYs6M0
    00 (00-00-00): (everyone who joined partway through)
    No answers: 0, Void: 1

    Re: #180
    When a question is long, there's sometimes a reason for it,
    and sometimes there isn't. Reading the whole thing is recommended

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 48:00
    183AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:46
    Was it operated with just a keyboard? Like punch cards or something like that?
    186AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:47
    Re: #183
    I've only ever used the era where you'd tell it
    how to move using function keys
    and things like that
    193AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    I only read the first line and answered, but it's probably right
    196AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:49
    【 Scores 】
    06 (02-00-00): ID:buePsmTA0
    04 (01-00-01): ID:pPIlYs6M0
    03 (01-00-00): ID:ESp6eLwk0
    02 (00-01-00): ID:BaUc9DiS0
    00 (00-00-00): (everyone who joined partway through)
    No answers: 0, Void: 1

    Re: #193
    If you're confident, it's fine to just answer on that.
    Not my problem what happens after (←wait, what)

    And next up is an approximate-value quiz.

    【 Coming up 】
    Next: 51:00

    Background and Key Points

    “Respect for the Aged Day” falls on the third Monday of September, which in 2026 lands on September 21. As the thread itself notes with the term “Silver Week,” this period is the popular nickname for the run of holidays around Respect for the Aged Day, and this quiz session was a special round themed around that holiday, billed as the “10th Anniversary SO: Respect for the Aged Commemoration.” Judging from the dates of the past questions cited as examples (2007, 2017, 2018, and so on), this quiz thread format itself appears to have been running on the VIP board for more than a decade. The point of contention came when the quizmaster, having initially ruled a question “void,” reconsidered and revised that ruling after being called out in a reply — illustrating how the line between right and wrong comes down to the quizmaster’s discretion and the thread’s back-and-forth, rather than being strictly bound by a template. The quiz content itself centered on general-knowledge questions like the Dead Sea, the Naoki Prize, and Lafcadio Hearn, with some exchanges — such as crude joke answers unsuitable for an article — left out.

    ※This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News VIP) thread “[After the High School Quiz Championship] Monday Night Quiz Thread [Let’s have a quiz showdown!].”

  • Rio Sakurai Appears on NHK Building Window-Cleaning Special — 5ch: “She’s So Competent It Doesn’t Feel Out of Place”

    NHK’s “Japan’s Hard-to-Clean Buildings Directory” featured Shinjuku’s Cocoon Tower, with Morning Musume。’26 member Rio Sakurai brought on as host. The show explores a building’s structure and charm through the lens of window cleaning, and this episode’s subject was a cocoon-shaped skyscraper standing 50 stories and 200 meters tall. On 5ch, threads buzzed with reactions to the broadcast starting a few minutes late, surprise that the L-shaped earthquake/typhoon info ticker varies by region, and praise for Sakurai’s composed hosting.

    Japanese building architecture draws worldwide attention for its striking designs and advanced technology. As more buildings take on bold, unconventional shapes, it’s often hard to imagine how their windows even get cleaned.

    Using window cleaning as an entry point actually reveals a building’s deeper appeal.

    This time, the stage is Cocoon Tower, the symbolic skyscraper of Nishi-Shinjuku — a mysterious, cocoon-like shape standing 50 stories and 200 meters tall.

    Source: web.nhk / original article here

    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:12
    @iput_univ
    Today at 10:15 PM, #CocoonTower will be featured on TV!
    "Japan's Hard-to-Clean Buildings Directory"
    Network: NHK General
    Air date/time: 9/21 (Mon, holiday) 22:15–22:45
    Cast: [Hosts] Ken Yajima, Rio Sakurai (Morning Musume。)
    [Guests] Noritaka Tange (architect), Hiroshi Miyazawa (architecture media editor-in-chief)
    #IPUT (International Professional University of Technology in Tokyo)

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSssyApagAEScfd.jpg:orig#.jpg
    6:00 PM · Sep 21, 2026
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:13
    Thought it wasn't on yet…
    turns out it just hadn't started lol
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:14
    It's already blown out over the Pacific and they're STILL running the L-shaped ticker?
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:19
    Re: #8
    Chiba and Kanagawa are bad, especially Ichihara city
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:31
    What on earth is the connection that got her this gig
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:31
    Is there even such a thing as a truss that isn't triangular?
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:32
    Yeah, same old rootless, wandering show as always
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:32
    Pulling out Sanma's trusty "I do radio too" card again
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:33
    Isn't it not L-shaped over in western Japan or Tohoku?
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:33
    Re: #47
    It's normal here @Iwate
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:34
    Osaka's public broadcaster building looks like a tough one too
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:35
    Re: #54
    That's the building Hello! Project owes a lot to
    102AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:41
    This is such a specialized skill
    Are there even successors being trained for it?
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:42
    Re: #102
    People who climb steel towers
    are literally everywhere
    104AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:41
    Why don't they show earthquake tickers via data broadcasting like BS channels do?
    118AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:43
    Re: #104
    So it's viewable even on cheap TVs
    126AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:44
    This vocational school can afford to put up a 50-story building in Shinjuku — how insane is their tuition?
    139AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    Re: #126
    Several vocational schools run by the same corporation share the building
    137AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    Way too much info packed in for typhoons and earthquakes
    All that's left is fires
    142AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    Re: #137
    Fires are Anju's department (nickname for Hello! Project group ANGERME)
    143AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:45
    What's this about books bought with tax money?
    145AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:46
    Re: #143
    It's a drama set in a library
    149AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:47
    Book 1st's Shinjuku store is in the basement of this building
    They used to hold Hello! Project photobook release events there sometimes back in the day, but haven't heard of any lately
    161AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    Re: #149
    Wait, that place was in the basement of this building?
    I always go underground to get there so I never realized
    151AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:47
    She's not the least bit intimidated dealing with old guys
    156AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    Re: #151
    She deals with them every week lol
    160AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    Re: #151
    Being Sanma's sparring partner isn't just for show
    158AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:48
    July 14, 2026 — a high-rise in the Sakae entertainment district of Nagoya's Naka Ward
    Cause: strong winds twisted two suspension wires
    https://kumanichi.com/sites/default/files/images/newspack/2026-07PN2026071401001495.-.-.CI0003.jpg
    164AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:49
    Had NHK on the whole time and didn't even notice she was on
    171AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:50
    Re: #164
    She's so competent it doesn't feel out of place
    169AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:50
    Apparently the day rate for this gig is ¥15,000
    172AnonymousSep 21, 2026 22:51
    Re: #169
    No way it's that cheap

    Background and Talking Points

    “Japan’s Hard-to-Clean Buildings Directory” is an NHK feature that showcases architectural ingenuity through the lens of window-washing work, and this episode focused on Cocoon Tower, the symbolic landmark of Nishi-Shinjuku. In the thread, one explanation notes that NHK displays the L-shaped earthquake/typhoon information ticker via a data-broadcasting system so that it’s viewable regardless of region or TV model, answering the simple question of why its approach differs from commercial broadcasters. Meanwhile, the reply about the window cleaners’ daily wage cites no source and remains pure speculation, so it should be taken with caution. An architect and an architecture-media editor-in-chief also appeared as guests on the show, but the thread’s interest centered mainly on the hosting dynamic, with little discussion of the architectural details themselves.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “■ Rio Sakurai ■ Japan’s Hard-to-Clean Buildings Directory: Shinjuku Cocoon Tower ■ NHK 22:30-23:00 ■“.

  • Shoko Nakagawa’s ‘Torneko’s Great Adventure’ Screenshot of Despair Sparks Reactions: ‘We’ve All Been There’

    TV personality Shoko Nakagawa posted an update on X about her progress in “Torneko’s Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon – A Bit Fancier Remaster,” but the screenshot she attached turned out to be so “despair-inducing” that it became a hot topic on a thread on 5ch’s Geisports Sokuho+ board. In the thread, users overlaid the posted photo with their own pet cats, gushing “that’s totally my Torneko!”, while others shared “been there” stories about losing hours of progress in an instant in Mystery Dungeon-style games. Some brought up an old incident where she had claimed an iPhone update wiped her Dragon Quest III save data, and the thread drew over 40 replies.

    Mon, 9/21, 7:35 PM

    TV personality Shoko Nakagawa updated her X account to share her progress playing the newly released game “Torneko’s Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon – A Bit Fancier Remaster.”

    “Torneko’s Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon – A Bit Fancier Remaster” is a remastered version of “Torneko’s Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon,” originally released for the Super Famicom in 1993, and is now available on Nintendo Switch 2 and Nintendo Switch. The biggest appeal of the “Mystery Dungeon” format is that the dungeon layout, the monsters that appear, and the items you find all change completely with every attempt, so the adventure stays fresh no matter how many times you dive in.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:45
    Utsukushi-ga-hara Open-Air Museum's Amore Bell rings in for reply #2

    (∪^ω^) 🔔♪ Ding-dong, ding-dong♪ (a copypasta template regulars post as the second reply in a thread)
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:46
    That's totally my own Torneko right there!
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:48
    Re: #4
    The sync rate's way too high, lol
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:05
    Re: #4
    Hey, don't go stealing my cat!
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    Re: #4
    Stealing's a basic technique in the Mystery Dungeon series, so it's totally fine
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:48
    Should've saved a screenshot back during the Ramia thing too (referring to Ramia, the flying dragon from Dragon Quest V, from an earlier mishap)
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:49
    Shokotan's barely posted about her cat since her kid was born (maybe once a month at best) — I wonder if the cat's living at her parents' place now, or if it's still with them but zoned away from the baby
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:49
    The Switch 2 she got as a pregnancy gift
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:50
    Shokotan's a big gamer — has she been playing her Switch 2 lately? Or is she too swamped with the kid to manage?
    I mean, giving a Switch 2 as a birth gift, what is that, lol
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:51
    Re: #10
    I wouldn't send a gaming console to someone who's about to be run ragged taking care of a baby.
    She's already not sleeping enough as it is — if she's got time to game, she'd rather just sleep.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:51
    Shoko Nakagawa
    After I updated my iPhone, a bunch of stuff got wiped out… nooo
    My Dragon Quest III save, right before I was about to beat Baramos, is gone too. I could cry.

    Square Enix's response:
    No bugs causing save data to be lost have been confirmed at this time.
    Normally, an OS update should not cause save data to be lost.
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Re: #11
    So Square Enix was lying?
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:51
    Shoko Nakagawa's signature song is 'Flying Humanoid,' right?
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:51
    At this rate her kid's gonna end up lecturing her someday
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:52
    Is this actually a screenshot from her own playthrough, I wonder?
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:58
    I'm more of a Shiren the Wanderer guy myself
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:31
    Re: #32
    I'm Asuka all the way (likely referencing 'Asuka Ken!', a Mystery Dungeon spin-off)
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:12
    You sure about that? Couldn't it be someone else's screenshot?
    I mean, that cat wasn't even your cat, remember
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:15
    This is 8 again, replying to Re: #44
    Apparently the cats are currently living in a room on the second floor!
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:15
    Re: #1
    Huh? Wait, isn't she supposed to have a Switch 2 — why's she using her phone?
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:24
    Re: #46
    Because it's even more convenient than the Switch.
    Same reason people buy a big fancy camera for great shots and still end up only ever using their phone.
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:29
    Playing Shiren the Wanderer on the Nintendo 64, I made it down to floor 99, grabbed a Scroll of Return to head back, and then a Kappa threw it away and it vanished.
    I kept going down floor after floor but that Scroll of Return never showed up again — all that time, down the drain.
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:31
    Re: #55
    lol
    Honestly, once you start listing the rage-inducing 'been there' moments from Shiren and Torneko, there's no end to it, lol
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:34
    The thrill of stealing and the rush of pulling it off is just better in the Shiren series.
    Honestly, in the Mystery Dungeon series, the whole appeal kind of comes down to the thrill of theft.
    The moment you swipe some ridiculously expensive, powerful item you could never afford, for free — that's pure dopamine.
    From early game onward I'm basically just playing the whole thing thinking about how to combine items I've picked up to pull off the next heist.
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:46
    Re: #62
    To be safe, I'd always check the floor's shop first, then steal with a Scroll of Attraction from the stairwell room and head down immediately.
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:56
    Re: #62
    The idea of stealing actually goes all the way back to the original Torneko, but it got scrapped for not fitting Torneko's character as a merchant.
    Stealing caught on in Shiren instead, and later got 'reverse-imported' back into the Torneko games.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:37
    Didn't she say she was quitting X?
    Lied again?
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:34
    Re: #63
    Probably got flamed online, found it a hassle, and just deleted the post itself.
    Then acted like it never happened, and here we are.
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:48
    Huh? Switch content's fair game again now?
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:53
    You're soft, newbie.
    THIS is what a real dead-end looks like.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    It's so unfair that dying sends you back to level 1
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:59
    Re: #75
    You get sent back to level 1 even without dying, lol
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:03
    Oh, Torneko's out on Switch now?
    I loved how the music arrangement changed depending on the floor, so maybe I'll pick it up.
    93AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:31
    Re: #79
    It's on Steam too. The hardcore players who've squeezed everything out of Shiren had complaints, but it did get a patch eventually.
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:05
    I said I'd only played Yangus and the old-school fans laughed me out of the room (Yangus — a Dragon Quest spin-off Mystery Dungeon title)
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:16
    Re: #80
    Yangus was built easy-mode for the soft generation, way too forgiving
    100AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:46
    Is there even a point to this remaster?
    104AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:55
    Re: #100
    Square Enix's whole business these days is just remasters and remakes

    Background and Talking Points

    “Torneko’s Great Adventure: Mystery Dungeon” is an RPG released in 1993 for the Super Famicom by Chunsoft (now Spike Chunsoft). Its defining feature is that the terrain and enemy placement change randomly every time you descend, and running out of strength sends you back to level 1. This system was later carried over into titles like “Shiren the Wanderer,” and “Mystery Dungeon” became established as a genre name in its own right. In the thread, opinions were split between those asking “is there really a point to releasing this remaster now?” and others reacting with weary resignation that Square Enix has been churning out remasters and remakes nonstop in recent years. Some replies also noted that the “stealing” mechanic was originally rejected for not fitting Torneko’s character, and instead took root first in the later “Shiren the Wanderer” — though it’s worth noting this account comes from fan lore rather than an official statement from the developers.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “Shoko Nakagawa’s ‘Torneko’s Great Adventure’ Screenshot of Despair Shocks the Internet: ‘We’ve All Been There’.”

  • Which Hello! Project Group Should Suzuki Kotomi Join? 5ch: ‘This Is Actually Pretty Tough’

    On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a thread heated up over which Hello! Project group trainee Suzuki Kotomi should ultimately be placed in. While posters rated her looks highly, opinions on her singing and dancing skills were mixed, with some sarcastically suggesting she ‘just go to a group where you only have to move to the beat.’ Others pointed to precedents like ‘even Ishiyama turned out fine,’ citing members whose skills were once doubted but who later grew into their roles, suggesting she could still develop with the right training. As for specific placements, multiple group names came up — including Tsubaki Factory, Juice=Juice, and Rosy Chronicle — sparking discussion that weighed height and compatibility with existing members.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:32
    Seems like nobody actually knows how to make use of her
    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:33
    Maybe she should just join a group where all you do is move to the beat
    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:34
    Even Ishiyama turned out fine, so don't give up on her
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:35
    Re: #3
    Ishiyama was actually really good at dancing right from the start, and while her singing wasn't great, she had a powerful voice
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:34
    Which group would still work even if she ends up basically just standing there as decoration?
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:35
    Saw her dancing alongside the mascot costume
    Kotomi-chan's actually got talent
    The 'Black Panther' (nickname for another trainee) still needs a few more years though
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:36
    It's less that she's bad and more that she's just inexperienced — she's not particularly bad either
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    It's not really about being good or bad — the real question is how to handle looks that are almost wasted on Hello! Project
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Graduate Tsubaki's older leader and bring her in
    Add one more member at the same time as Akiyama's replacement
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:45
    Re: #15
    There's already someone lined up to replace Akiyama, so just add Kotomi alongside a low-voice replacement for Ono
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:41
    Nishiguchi, why didn't you put her in Morning Musume?
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:41
    If she gets left on the shelf into her older years like Ishiyama did, there'll be a revolt
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    Looks like she'll end up around 165cm, so putting her in Juice=Juice makes the most sense
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:43
    Tsubaki sounds good
    The 'Enoshima' type members are about due to age out anyway, so relaunch the group with her
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:43
    Put her in Rosy Chronicle and let her boost their average height
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Re: #23
    That would make her stick out way too much, though
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Honestly, whichever group actually lands Kotomi is going to become the flagship group
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Keeping her benched too long at this age isn't going to do her any favors
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:45
    Wasn't there a case where they scouted Momo but kept her sitting around, and she left to end up as some mystery underground idol now?
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:46
    To start with, there's basically no information on how good her singing actually is,
    or how well she can dance — what's the real deal here?
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:46
    In a Hello! Project where skilled members get all the love, how does she become popular?
    Can she get by on looks alone like Kamirena?
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:47
    I'd support her in any group except Morning Musume
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #31
    So you'd just mindlessly trash her if she's in Morning Musume?
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:47


    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:49
    The big-sister figure all the trainees look up to
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:22
    Re: #35
    Even for a huge company that'd be way too much
    Are you stupid or something
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:49
    Re: #34
    Too long to read all of it, just give me the top 5
    And Kotomi's scores
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:53
    Re: #38
    Total score across 5 categories (singing, dancing, rhythm, voice, stage presence)

    1st: Ishikawa — 42.0 pts (avg 8.4)
    2nd: Kishida — 41.5 pts (avg 8.3)
    3rd: Nemoto — 41.0 pts (avg 8.2)
    4th: Miyazaki — 40.5 pts (avg 8.1)
    5th: Sakamoto — 40.0 pts (avg 8.0)

    Suzuki Kotomi scored 37.0 pts (avg 7.4), broken down as
    Singing 7.0, Dancing 7.0, Rhythm 7.0, Voice 7.0, Stage presence 9.0.
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:56
    Re: #43
    Out of that top group, Miyazaki or Sakamoto seems best
    What about Yamamoto Hana-chan? She seems to get good buzz in the 'Wolf' rankings (a fan poll/nickname), but I've never seen her perform live, so let me know if you have
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:26
    Re: #47
    She sings in an emotional style, kind of like Kawanishi
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:32
    Re: #47
    She didn't make it to the finals of the solo audition for nothing
    She's the type who can actually sing
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:56
    Tsubaki it is, then
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:00
    Re: #49
    Tsubaki is actually the worst fit once you factor in Hinakin's height
    She'd end up looking like a chaperone teacher
    Unless they add four or more tall new members, that is

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    In Hello! Project, new members go through a trainee period before being assigned to a group, so which ‘color’ a trainee fits tends to become a topic of discussion early on. It’s worth noting that the ‘5-category, 45-point max’ scoring shared in the thread appears to be an unofficial tally compiled independently by posters, not an official skill assessment. As the comparison with Ishiyama illustrates, several Hello! Project members who scored low in singing and dancing while still inexperienced went on to improve significantly, so the thread’s discussion also touched on how current scores alone can’t fully predict future potential. Regarding placement, many opinions emphasized height differences and compatibility with existing members, reflecting the recurring tension in Hello! Project’s group formation between prioritizing visuals versus prioritizing skill.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread ‘How to make good use of Suzuki Kotomi-chan in Hello! Project ← Isn’t this actually pretty tough?‘.

  • ANGERME’s Fall Tour Nagoya Show Still Has Day-of Tickets — Leader Ise Puts Out the Call

    With ANGERME’s fall tour stop in Nagoya just a day away, group leader Ise took to her blog to appeal to fans, writing that she’d love to see more people come in on day-of tickets. In the 5ch live-discussion thread, posters pointed to the fact that sister group Juice=Juice’s shows around the same time had sold out in advance, raising doubts about whether the venue capacities chosen for ANGERME actually match its real drawing power. At the same time, some voiced fatigue with seeing this kind of turnout appeal made ahead of nearly every show, so opinions split between blaming the agency’s venue choices for the weak turnout and taking issue with the repeated appeals themselves.

    Tomorrow’s the fall tour stop in Nagoya!

    Honestly, I’d love for more of you to grab day-of tickets and come!

    There’s still room to get in…!

    Source: ameblo.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:58
    Every single venue's dead empty, ain't it?!!!
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:04
    ANGERME, halls are too much for you
    Move to livehouses.
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:05
    They should just pack the seats with shills like Juice (Juice=Juice) does.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:06
    And here Juice=Juice's the one playing "the Village" (apparently a smaller-tier venue)…
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:07
    The original tour order was Osaka → Chiba → Nagoya → Ise, so it's no wonder Nagoya's getting the cold shoulder even more
    Now that Rock in Japan's been cancelled, touring fans might find it a bit easier to make it out
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:11
    But I want to play Rock in Japan again.
    No matter what, I want to play it.
    Since I'm absolutely going to play it, I'll keep grinding tomorrow, the day after, and beyond!!!

    I have zero intention of quitting yet, none at all
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:11
    Seriously, just pick spring OR fall already, not both
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:12
    That's weird
    UP-FRONT's supposed to be known for nailing venue capacity…
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Re: #21
    That's because they pick venues based on how popular the group was a year ago
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:13
    Instead of "please come!"
    I'd rather hear "we'll make sure you have a blast!"
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:20
    Re: #24
    Can't just lie though
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Wow, the leader's the one letting slip that the fall tour's dead empty lol
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Writing "still plenty of room" basically outs how empty it is lol
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:14
    Did today's livestream actually help sell tickets?
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:16
    Example of a good way to invite people:

    Hey, hey, hey,

    did you know
    Nishimura Otoki
    got new bangs?

    Wanna come to Budokan
    and check if they suit her?

    You'd be missing out if you don't come see!!
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:17
    Re: #30
    ANGERME one-on-one meet-and-greet
    1st time
    Goto: "Please don't drift off to the younger girls." (really presses the point)
    Old-guard wota: (flustered) "Hana-chan's my favorite, I won't drift to anyone younger than her!"
    Goto: "I'm watching you, you know."

    2nd time
    Goto: "Oh! You came again! You're coming to the fall tour too, right? Right?"
    Old-guard wota: "Yeah, I'm going to the Ise and Sendai shows."
    Goto: "Make sure you watch Hana a lot, okay!"
    Old-guard wota: "Yes ma'am!"
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:16
    So how are we even supposed to invite people to the Ise show then?
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:17
    The members are just going to have to sit down together and brainstorm ways to draw a crowd
    The agency's too busy fawning over Juice to be any help
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:18
    Re: #33
    Do livestreams and blog posts like Tsubaki does, you idiot
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:17
    Juice doesn't even need to ask, people just show up
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:18
    There's no way ANGERME can pack Forest [Hall] full
    The agency's lost its mind
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:19
    Re: #36
    Don't worry, they're not doing that anymore starting next year
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:19
    Some members just don't get that this is a business built on fans ("wota shoubai"), and that's why nothing ever improves
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:27
    Tsubaki's still saddled with the handicap of having given back 700 seats
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:42
    Two days left in Osaka,
    it'd make me so happy if a few more people could come out…
    I want you all to see us, but how do I get you to come see us~~! 🥲 Anyway, I just really want everyone to come.

    First of all, to everyone who came today,
    see you again next time (☆)
    https://ameblo.jp/angerme-new/entry-12979295519.html

    Doesn't it get exhausting, begging one-sidedly like this every single day?
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:48
    It's not just a one-show plea though
    every stop from here on except Ise is going to look like this
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:50
    Whoever on staff picked the wrong venues is getting a pay cut and a demotion lol
    Even the agency and the fans probably didn't expect ANGERME to end up looking this pathetic
    They already knew Juice was selling well off the hype, so couldn't they have swapped venues before announcing the fall tour?
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:53
    I feel like what Ise really wants to beg for isn't "please come" aimed at the fans
    it's "stop booking unreasonable tours" aimed at the agency
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:54
    [Breaking] Juice=Juice Room Tour 2026 "5ROOMS" JMS Aster Plaza Large Hall show: advance tickets are sold out, so there will be NO day-of tickets sold!
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789991469/
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:54
    The spring tour was already dead empty everywhere except opening night and the smaller-capacity Osaka show, so it's a bit late to act like this is some new problem lol

    Background and Discussion Points

    Behind this appeal lies the fact that during the spring tour, too, seats went unfilled at every show except opening night and the Osaka performance — leading to speculation in the thread that the agency sets venue sizes based on the group’s popularity from a year earlier. Fellow Hello! Project group Tsubaki Factory is also said to still be carrying the handicap of seats it previously had to give back, suggesting that differences in each group’s drawing power feed directly into the difficulty of picking the right venue. Opinion in the thread split between those who blame the agency’s venue selection for the poor turnout and those who are simply worn out by the members having to plead “please come” at nearly every show — circumstances that go beyond a simple matter of one group being more or less popular than another.

    *This article has been excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “”zMƒ‰ƒCƒuI‚¦‚½ˆÉ¨ƒŠ[ƒ_[u–¾“ú‚ÍHƒcƒA[–¼ŒÃ‰®I³’¼A‚Ü‚¾‚Ü‚¾“–“úŒ”‚Å“ü‚Á‚Ăقµ‚¢I‚Ü‚¾“ü‚ê‚é‚ñ‚Å‚·ccI’‹‚à–é‚àIv.”

  • Perfume’s A-chan Reports Wedding in Italy — Nocchi and Kashiyuka Attend as Family

    Perfume’s A-chan (37) announced in English on her Instagram on September 21 that she held a wedding ceremony with only family present at Lake Como, Italy. The post, shared alongside words celebrating the group’s debut anniversary, included a three-shot photo of A-chan with fellow members Nocchi and Kashiyuka, along with a message calling the two of them “family” as well. On 5ch, while many comments praised Nocchi and Kashiyuka’s outfits, posts about rising prices at the brand said to employ her husband stood out, and the discussion drifted from the wedding itself toward tangential chatter.

    September 21, 2026, 5:45 PM

    A-chan (37), of the three-member unit Perfume — which entered “cold sleep” (a self-described hiatus) at the end of 2025 — updated her social media on the 21st to announce that she held a wedding ceremony in Italy with only her family present.

    The Instagram post was written in English: a joyful message reading, in essence, “September 21st is our debut anniversary. Congratulations to us!!!!” followed by, “I got married with just my family at Lake Como, Italy. Of course, you two are part of my family too” — accompanied by a three-shot photo with Kashiyuka and Nocchi.

    Source: news.livedoor.com / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:54
    Getting married in Como — she knows exactly what she's doing
    It's the go-to spot for celebrities worldwide right now
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:55
    They used to be the "pure girl" trio, but now that A-chan's a married woman that's off the table, so are Nocchi and Kashiyuka the only "maidens" (unmarried ones) left?
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:00
    Re: #11
    Hasn't Kashiyuka been a married woman for ages already?
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:55
    Better hurry up with the kids
    Having two by 40 is
    a pretty tight schedule
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:56
    Who's the husband?
    Savanna Takahashi (the comedian), was it?
    98AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:17
    Re: #16
    The canvas-bag shop guy
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:57
    What happened to Go-chan? She's so skinny
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:58
    When it's held overseas, who foots the travel bill?
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:01
    Re: #21
    Probably gets written off as an expense?
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 19:59
    Nocchi alone looked even more gorgeous
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:02
    Yoshida Kaban (Porter) was already pricey before, but it's gotten even more expensive now
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:12
    Re: #27
    That's definitely going to end in a fight
    No matter how many people are involved, it's still like this?
    In the end, scary is scary
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:03
    I've actually met Yoshida's young company president before
    He was a really nice guy
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:04
    PORTER's price hikes have gotten out of hand
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:10
    Re: #30
    Just looked it up — a strap alone was going for 26,000 yen (~$175) lol
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:05
    I keep seeing articles about PORTER's new releases lately, and I was floored at how insanely the prices have climbed
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:06
    Didn't Porter have some kind of controversy recently?
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:07
    A-chan might be the skinniest of the three
    Her build is different from the other two, who already look petite, so being the thinnest of the group is pretty extreme…
    That's less "effort" and more sheer self-discipline…
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:13
    Getting married in Italy —
    doesn't that come with some religious hassle?
    Like having to attend church beforehand or something?
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:15
    Porter's price hikes are no joke
    Their stores look like luxury boutiques now
    when high schoolers used to carry their bags back in the day
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:16
    Say what you will, but they're all aging really gracefully
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:19
    Is the husband the heir to Yoshida Kaban (Porter)?
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:20
    Surprised she's 37
    Might be a tight window for the other two to have kids at this point
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:23
    Wow, Nocchi is still this cute?
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:25
    Love Nocchi and Kashiyuka's outfit choices
    Modest, intelligent, and elegant vibe
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:04



    Yeah, it's gotta be Nocchi
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:16
    They're the type of group that survives on its hardcore fans, and yet this feels like she just completely cut those hardcore fans loose
    110AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:25
    Re: #95
    Do they have more male fans than female fans?
    I've heard a lot of the male fans are the "serious oshi-love" type (fans who treat it like an actual romantic relationship)
    96AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:16
    Come to think of it, the three members of Candies (the 1970s idol trio) stayed close friends forever too
    102AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:20
    Re: #1
    How carefree, getting married while Japan's going through a rough patch

    Background and Talking Points

    Perfume has been in a self-described “cold sleep” hiatus since the end of 2025, and A-chan’s wedding announcement came during that period. The fact that the announcement date coincided with the group’s debut anniversary also appears to have been chosen deliberately to match her message. In the thread, speculation spread that the husband is “the heir to Yoshida Kaban (Porter),” but this is a guess readers drew from the post’s content, not an official statement from A-chan or her agency. There were also moments where discussion of Porter’s ever-rising prices generated more buzz than the wedding itself, and the thread’s tendency to drift from the main topic into tangential chatter is one of its notable features.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Perfume’s A-chan Reports Wedding in Italy — Nocchi and Kashiyuka Attend as “Family”.”

  • Pharmacists’ Salaries and Future Prospects Divide Opinion — 5ch: “AI Can’t Take Responsibility, So the Job Will Survive”

    A thread titled “Is it true that pharmacists don’t even earn that much and have unstable jobs?” got lively on 5ch. The discussion ranged from pay and working conditions to broader industry structure — covering the gap in difficulty between pharmacy school and medical school, fears that AI will replace dispensing work, layoffs among MRs (medical representatives), and the possibility of cuts to dispensing fees. Opinions that “AI can’t take responsibility, so the pharmacist job itself won’t disappear” coexisted with views that “the number of pharmacists will be scaled back going forward,” making for a discussion that leaned toward neither simple optimism nor pessimism.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:34
    Is this career already washed up?
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:36
    Kind of regret not buckling down and studying to get into med school instead….
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:36
    Re: #5
    The difficulty gap is way too huge
    Even the lowest-ranked med school is far harder to get into than the top pharmacy school
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:37
    Re: #5
    Re: #8
    This is exactly the kind of labeling that makes nobody want to aim for it
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:37
    Sure, if you could've gotten into med school you should have, but most people choose pharmacy school precisely because they couldn't get into med school
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:37
    Re: #7
    That's not true for private med schools
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    Re: #10
    Even the bottom ones need Waseda/Keio-level academics
    Some private pharmacy schools basically let you in if you can write your own name
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Re: #14
    Isn't the hardest pharmacy program the University of Tokyo's Science II track?
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    Re: #14
    Did you not know Keio has a pharmacy school?
    The bottom-tier private med schools aren't Waseda/Keio level at all
    Though the tuition is insane
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:38
    You guys are bashing pharmacists again
    Seriously gross
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:07
    Re: #11
    Agreed. Who do they think they are?
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:38
    They're often called one of the first jobs that'll disappear, right?
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    Re: #12
    Apparently AI is going to hit them hard
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    I heard it's ¥7.5 million a year at 30, clock out on time, no overtime, 165 days off a year
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    Re: #16
    Who'd you hear that from?
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    It's just the pharmacist role that's washed up — there are still jobs at pharma companies, cosmetics makers, and the like
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:41
    Re: #19
    I heard research jobs are in trouble because of AI too
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Salaries are rising everywhere else — is it for real that theirs is dropping?
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Re: #21
    Pharmacists!? No way!?
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Re: #21
    Still better than hospital doctors, though
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    Re: #27
    Which one is the lowest-ranked private med school?
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Working in some tiny 50-square-meter pharmacy out in the countryside, doing the exact same thing every day from morning to evening — I'd lose my mind
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:48
    Re: #36
    Sounds kind of like being a factory line worker, just with slightly better take-home pay?
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:45
    Back in the day even grads from bottom-tier pharmacy schools could become MRs, but that's probably tough now
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:47
    Re: #38
    Apparently MRs are getting laid off these days too
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:49
    Re: #40
    There were massive layoffs after COVID
    Hiring is extremely tight now
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #40
    Is there even a point in choosing a 4-year pharmacy program? I keep wondering that
    Wouldn't a regular chemistry department in a science faculty work just as well?
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    It's a job that's really going to get replaced by AI
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    Re: #55
    People have been saying that for over 10 years now
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:07
    The pharmacist job itself isn't going away
    AI can't take responsibility, after all
    Pharmacists overseeing AI will stick around
    It's just that they won't need as many people as now
    Even drugstores are moving into an era of one pharmacist covering three nearby stores
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:08
    Re: #80
    Won't insurance companies find some clever way around that?
    82AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:08
    Re: #80
    That's true
    But under the Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Act, I don't think they'll ever be allowed to go below one pharmacist per store
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:10
    How exactly are they going to reduce the number of pharmacists going forward?
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:12
    Re: #84
    Easy
    Just cut dispensing fees and remove the cap on prescriptions per pharmacist, raising it from 40 to unlimited
    98AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:21
    Re: #84
    They could just cap the number of people who pass the national exam
    107AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:27
    Re: #1
    Nurses only make ¥6 million even working night shifts
    Civil servants in their 30s are stuck in the ¥4 million range

    Basically, there's no tax revenue left
    108AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:28
    Re: #107
    What are you even talking about?
    111AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:29
    Re: #107
    Can you speak Japanese, please
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:29
    I work at a hospital, and pharmacists are safe there
    They're cheaper than hiring more doctors, and they qualify for fee add-ons too
    114AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:30
    Re: #112
    But don't hospital pharmacists earn less?
    116AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:32
    Re: #112
    Did you know most hospitals in Japan are running deficits?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Since pharmacy programs shifted to a six-year curriculum starting in the 2006 academic year, enrollment quotas have kept growing, and the number of people sitting the national pharmacist exam has remained high. Dispensing fees, meanwhile, are official prices revised with every round of medical fee reform, so changes in the business environment tend to flow directly into on-the-ground pay and conditions. The thread’s point that “hospital pharmacists earn less” is really the flip side of the fact that many hospitals themselves operate at a deficit, which tends to create a pay gap compared with working at a dispensing pharmacy or drugstore. The reduction in MR (medical representative) headcount is also a real trend playing out across pharmaceutical companies in recent years, driven by the shift to online sales channels and digital information delivery. As for the argument that AI will replace pharmacists, the discussion tends to blend two different things — tasks that can genuinely be streamlined, like prescription auditing and inventory management, and tasks where a human still has to be involved, like final medication counseling and taking responsibility for outcomes. Within the thread itself, the debate settled into a middle-ground view: “the job itself won’t disappear, but fewer people will be needed.”

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Is it true that pharmacists don’t even earn that much and have unstable jobs?“

  • Hiroaki Hirata Pitches the Dubbed Version, But 5ch Still Swears by Subtitles

    Voice actor Hiroaki Hirata appeared at a screening event for the dubbed version of director Christopher Nolan’s new film “The Odyssey,” pushing hard for the dub. The film, based on Homer’s epic and starring Matt Damon, sparked a flood of reactions on 5ch — some argued “the actor’s real voice is better,” others countered that “subtitles eat up all your focus just trying to read them.” While many felt comedies and sitcoms suit dubbing, plenty of others said original-language audio is better for performances that hinge on acting skill, splitting opinion down the middle between subtitle and dub camps.

    Mon, 9/21, 17:54

    Voice actor Hiroaki Hirata (63) attended a screening event in Tokyo on the 21st celebrating the smash-hit dubbed version of the American film “The Odyssey.”

    The latest film from director Christopher Nolan, known for works like “Oppenheimer,” stars American actor Matt Damon. Based on the ancient Greek poet Homer’s epic of the same name, it depicts the hero Odysseus’s decade-long journey home after the Trojan War.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:48
    Fair point, but voice actor dubbing is way too over-the-top. And it's so one-note that it doesn't matter who's doing it.
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:49
    Comedies are definitely funnier dubbed.
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Re: #5
    The "Nagano Movie Channel" on BS-TBS mostly airs foreign films with subtitles, but Cannonball Run was the one exception they aired dubbed.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    Re: #5
    The Big Bang Theory is definitely better subtitled. Not that the dub is bad, but Sheldon's weirdness comes through better in the original performance.
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #5
    Agreed. Even shows that aren't full-blown comedies but have a lighter tone work well dubbed — Columbo, for instance.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    Jackie Chan is the one exception — that Ishimaru guy's dub voice feels more "real" than his actual one. (Hiroya Ishimaru is Jackie Chan's longtime Japanese dub voice actor)
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Re: #6
    Same goes for Schwarzenegger, right?
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Re: #6
    Same with T-Bag from Prison Break. Hearing his real voice with subtitles on just isn't intimidating at all — total buzzkill.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    Before long, AI will be good enough to replace both voice actors and actors lol
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Re: #7
    With AI you could probably translate into other languages while keeping the actor's actual voice.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:00
    Re: #7
    Nah, voice actors have idol-level popularity here, that's not happening. Maybe just for straight dubbing or narration work.
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    If you don't offer both subtitles and dubbing, you're leaving a lot of viewers behind.
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:51
    Worst case, even with no subtitles available and not understanding the language, I'd still rather hear the actor's real voice.
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Well of course voice actors push the dubbed version — it's the version that keeps them employed.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Uncharted is great dubbed, but I tried it with subtitles and the mumbly dialogue made it boring lol
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Subtitle purists spend over 80% of their attention just reading the text — they've got no bandwidth left to actually take in the real voice, let alone the acting.
    The normal move is to watch the dub first to get the dialogue and plot, then watch the original version.
    Besides, Hirata, with the nuance you bring to your own dub performances, that's plenty for casual viewers.
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #13
    Reading speed varies a lot by person, so someone who reads fast isn't using anywhere near 80% of their attention. Subtitles don't even have that many characters to begin with.
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    Jackie Chan's actual voice sounds fake — it just doesn't suit him.
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:52
    You can't say that lol. It's like a traditional restaurant's proprietress saying "Western food is the best."
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:53
    I've got low vision so I can't really read subtitles. Dubbed is my only option.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    Muir Freya (from "The Old Man in the Backwoods Becomes a Holy Sword," voiced by Arisa Nakata):
    "Old man, you really shouldn't say things like that."

    The man himself, Beryl Gardenant (from "The Old Man in the Backwoods Becomes a Holy Sword," voiced by Hiroaki Hirata):
    "Yeah, I know, but still……" (a joke playing on the fact that Hirata voices a character in that very anime)
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    Dubbed is easier to watch — with subtitles you end up just chasing the text.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    Streaming dramas and movies absolutely need subtitles included, even alongside the dub.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:55
    Dr. Carter has to be voiced by Hirata.
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:07
    Re: #26
    Yeah, I can't picture that character with any other voice at this point.
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:21
    Re: #26
    Dr. Carter, Jack Sparrow, and Sanji all have to be him.
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:55
    Matt Damon's usually voiced by Miki though~ (referring to Hirokazu Miki, Matt Damon's regular Japanese dub voice actor)
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:55
    I want a dub for GTA. Don't care about anything else.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:55
    Same with YouTube — I end up just chasing the subtitles with my eyes. That's why auto-dub versions are an absolute lifesaver.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:57
    Re: #29
    Watching fighting game streams, I love how even the on-screen characters' battle cries get auto-dubbed.
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:00
    Top 3 movies/shows that are funnier dubbed:
    Columbo
    Jackie Chan movies
    What's the third one?
    111AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:30
    Re: #38
    Taichiro Hirokawa in the Mr. Boo! films.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:08
    Game of Thrones was better dubbed…

    except for that "It's me, it's me, Border" bit. (a meme referencing one particularly awkward-sounding line from the Japanese dub)
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:10
    Re: #63
    Honestly, you kind of feel bad for both the translator and the voice actor on that one…
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:09
    At home I go with dubbed — I just don't have the focus for subtitles.
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:18
    Re: #68
    Dubbed with subtitles on, you mean.
    110AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:30
    The annoying thing about dubs is when the voice actor changes depending on the broadcaster, or differs from the disc release — it just feels off the whole way through.
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:31
    Re: #110
    Well, subtitles are the mainstream choice in practice, so it can't be helped.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The dub-versus-subtitles debate has long been a recurring topic in how Japanese audiences watch foreign films and dramas, and this time the spark was a voice actor himself publicly advocating for the dub in a public setting. On the thread, the dominant reasoning wasn’t a simple either-or stance but a genre-based split — “comedies suit dubbing,” “serious performances come through better in the original language.” Works like Jackie Chan’s films or Columbo are cases where the dubbed version actually became more beloved in Japan than the original ever was abroad, which can be seen as a product of Japan’s uniquely developed dubbing culture. At the same time, the spread of streaming services — which let viewers freely switch between subtitles and dubbing — has fueled more comments along the lines of “I watch both” or “I pick depending on the situation.” There was also some discussion of whether AI-generated voices might eventually replace voice actors’ work, though it’s worth noting this was purely viewer speculation about the future, not something Hirata himself actually said.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Voice actor Hiroaki Hirata pushes hard for the Japanese dub, yet says “I’m actually a subtitles guy myself” — “Obviously the original voice is better”.”

  • Final Fantasy’s “Greatest Entry” Debate: Japanese Fans Split Between 5/6/10, Western Fans Rally Behind 7/8

    A thread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G board asked, “What’s the greatest Final Fantasy game?” According to posters, Japanese players tend to champion FF5, FF6, and FF10, while overseas players’ support clusters around FF7 and FF8. Some noted this pattern was sparked by discussion of which FF titles various Hololive VTuber members have played. The thread saw takes like “FF6 poured too many resources into presentation” and “FF7 kicked off the cutscene-heavy era, leaving less room for imagination,” while others pushed back by noting that FF6 and FF12 often top overseas fan-ranking projects — turning it into a debate over the gap between gut feeling and actual poll numbers.

    1AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:12
    It's pretty blatantly split like this — why is that?
    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:13
    Nah, it's obviously 4.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:16
    Re: #2
    There's still a solid faction of old Japanese guys backing that one too.
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:19
    Re: #2
    No way.
    A totally linear game where everyone's playthrough turns out the same is just too boring.
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:32
    Re: #2
    The main couple just aren't charming at all.
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:17
    Overseas it's 12 and 6, right?
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:19
    Re: #10
    Not 6.
    The source for the thread title is which FF games Hololive members have played (Hololive being a VTuber agency).
    The Japanese members are almost all 6 and 10.
    The overseas members are almost all 7 and 8.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:29
    Re: #15
    Sourcing this from VTubers is a joke.
    In actual overseas poll rankings, 6 comes out on top pretty much every time.
    12 is usually up there too.
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:20
    Speaking as someone who's played every entry and actually gets what FF is about, it's 15.
    Square Enix as it stands now isn't capable of topping that.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:23
    Re: #18
    That comment sounds like it came from a fujoshi scriptwriter (slang for female fans of boys'-love fiction).
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:25
    10 got trashed back when it came out, but the kids who played it then probably grew into the biggest demographic online now, so the tide turned.
    Same story as Gundam SEED — it's the same generation.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:27
    Re: #33
    It got trashed because it was completely linear with an arrow guiding you around — of course people complain when there isn't even a world map.
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:31
    Re: #33
    The 20th Anniversary Ultimania scenario book says 7 actually drew more criticism than praise back when it launched too.
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:35
    Re: #28
    Still, it's the second-best-selling entry ever, and it's been a while since an FF blew up like that.
    It even became a mainstream social phenomenon.
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:38
    Re: #56
    Name recognition keeps climbing and currency values keep inflating, so of course the newest entry tends to top the sales charts.
    If it didn't, that'd honestly be a huge failure.
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:36
    But you got chills when Zidane popped out at the end of 9's ending, didn't you?
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    Re: #58
    I shivered when he headbutted Materazzi (a joke conflating FF9's Zidane with footballer Zinedine Zidane's infamous World Cup headbutt).
    65AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:39
    7 and 10 are strong on character and story, but as games they're just okay.
    Once 7 pushed the series into cutscene-movie territory, leaning on story became kind of unavoidable.
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:43
    Re: #65
    Yeah, I genuinely felt like room for imagination disappeared starting with 7.
    It feels less like playing and more like being made to watch.
    66AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:40
    Re: #62
    Sorry, that's unit sales, not yen figures, so it's beside the point.
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    Re: #66
    Then it must've been sold dirt cheap.
    Just guessing, but a game that originally cost 9,504 yen was probably being sold at something like 980 yen — about 90% off.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:41
    Re: #49
    That "I loooove the protagonist~" stuff feels like a virgin's fantasy, it's rough to watch at this point.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    Re: #67
    Sorry, but neither of them has any charm even on their own…
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:42
    There's actually quite a few people who've logged the most hours in 11.
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Re: #71
    11's basically a different game that just happens to share the name (it's the MMO entry).
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    The old guys kept hyping up 5, so I tried it and honestly it just wasn't fun.
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:44
    Re: #74
    Guess it was too advanced for a baby like you.
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    I love 12's world.
    That one would absolutely blow up as an oepn world game.
    90AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:50
    Re: #89
    Typo, meant open world.
    93AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:54
    What's the deal with 1 not even getting a mention in a thread like this?
    96AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:56
    Re: #93
    The prequel, Origin, is a great game.
    110AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:01
    Re: #93
    It's kind of a pioneer of what you'd call time-loop stories.
    Having a cold open before the title screen was innovative too — it really shows off the staff's creative sense.
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:55
    9 has absolutely nothing new going on mechanically.
    It's an atmosphere game.
    100AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:57
    Re: #95
    FF always used to push into new territory, so it felt like the first time the series played it safe, and I didn't like that.
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 20:57
    6 probably poured too many resources into presentation.
    Even Sakaguchi himself called it the most polished FF.

    But if you actually surveyed fans on polish and completeness, I bet 6 would land dead last.
    That kind of gap in perception is probably what's behind the series' decline now.
    114AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:02
    Re: #101
    But baking the character's raw level straight into the damage formula makes zero sense, no matter how you look at it.
    133AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:06
    Re: #101
    How would they even remake that mid-air falling battle scene?
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:02
    Anti-8 and anti-9 people are so cringe.
    Especially since they're diehard fans of other numbered entries, yet they try to frame it as fans of 8 and 9 fighting each other.
    118AnonymousSep 21, 2026 21:04
    Re: #113
    The ones who say this are always 8 fanboys.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    In fan polls for the FF series, gut-feeling impressions and actual tallied results tend to diverge. While the thread claimed “overseas fans favor FF7 and FF8,” some pushed back, noting that FF6 and FF12 often top the rankings in overseas fan-voting projects — turning the gap between perception and statistics into a central point of debate. FF6 is said to have been called “the most polished FF” by its own developer, Hironobu Sakaguchi, yet it’s also a game that splits opinion, given experimental-for-its-time features like factoring a character’s raw level directly into damage calculations. As for FF7, some pointed out that the ‘FFVII 20th Anniversary Ultimania’ notes it faced criticism at launch over its linear progression and the arrow indicators on the world map — a reminder that its current reputation as the “greatest FF of all time” wasn’t the consensus from day one, but was largely shaped years later, a detail that’s easy to overlook.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Mystery] What’s the greatest Final Fantasy? Japanese fans say “5, 6, or 10,” foreigners say “7 or 8”.”