Category: Sports

  • Ayase Ueda Nets His 3rd Goal in 4 Games Since Joining Lille — But Lille Crash From First After Shock Loss to Bottom-Placed Nice

    On September 20 local time, in Matchday 5 of France’s Ligue 1, Lille’s Ayase Ueda started and played the full 90 minutes, scoring his 3rd goal in 4 official matches since joining the club. The goal — a left-footed finish from inside the penalty area — drew praise for its quality as well as the result. However, league-leading Lille went on to lose 1-2 to bottom-placed Nice, suffering their first defeat of the season and surrendering top spot in the table. While many thread comments praised Ueda’s individual performance, debate also broke out over whether Ligue 1 or the Premier League is the tougher league, alongside talk of how well Feyenoord — the club Ueda left — have been scoring since his departure.

    Started at center forward, played the full match

    In Ligue 1’s Matchday 5 on September 20 local time, league-leading Lille, with Ueda in the squad, faced bottom-of-the-table Nice. Lille suffered a painful 1-2 defeat — their first loss of the season — and fell from first place.

    Starting at center forward, Ueda scored for the first time in two matches. In the 79th minute, with his side trailing 0-2, he held the ball up to become the focal point of the attack, then reacted to a teammate’s lofted pass to run in behind the defense, firing home a left-footed shot from inside the left side of the box. The ball rippled cleanly into the net.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:15
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    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:16
    There were like three clear-cut chances there
    Well, seems like he'll keep racking up goals
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:17
    I'll give him credit once he's top scorer in France too
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:26
    Re: #4
    Who made you the judge?
    87AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:40
    Re: #4
    France's weak though
    The Premier League's the strongest league in the world, he needs to do it there
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:20
    That was a good goal
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:33
    Re: #5
    That was some really slick passing right before it lol
    Wait, Nice is bottom of the table now? Back when they had guys like Ben Arfa and Balotelli they were a Champions League-level side
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:25
    Trapped it with his back
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:26
    Re: #11
    Watching the movement right after, it really looks like he controlled it down on purpose…
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:27
    Re: #1
    Breaking news
    Real Sociedad win again with Kubo glued to the bench

    Kubo starting: 0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses
    Kubo on the bench: 3 wins, 0 draws, 1 loss — and that one loss was 0-0 until he came on, then it went 3-0 the other way and they lost after he entered
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:27
    Well, I guess Ligue 1 is a step up in intensity from the Eredivisie anyway

    Even Nakamura's been saying stuff like
    "Playing for Lyon is nothing like playing for Stade Rennes"

    That said, Ligue 1 these days has less talent than it did a while back,
    so it's actually gotten a bit softer for Japanese players than before too

    What Ueda needs isn't a goal tally, it's
    "the profile of a forward who can drag the team forward"

    Even scoring today, he still just ends up rated as "part of the losing side"
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:46
    Re: #15
    Yeah, when Nakamura joined up with the national team he said something like "everyone's so much better than at Rennes, it's fun" too — basically dissed Rennes lol
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:27
    The trap was probably a fluke, but nice one all the same
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:28
    Wait, they were top of the table being that weak?
    There were a couple of close headers too
    Guess it's an old cliché, but Japanese forwards really do suit a two-striker system huh
    Okazaki was the same way at Leicester
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:39
    In the Premier League, Ueda's not going to be anywhere near the top scorers
    Not like Son Heung-min

    Looking at current players like Tanaka and Kamada, they're the same as Japanese players before them —
    not at a level where they can score heavily in the Premier League

    Even as a striker, Ueda would top out in single digits in the Premier League,
    and no Champions League-level club would sign him for it anyway

    He'd have grown more scoring near the top in La Liga
    Playing for Lille isn't going to change the national-team version of Ueda all that much
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:39
    Even in decline, taking the starting spot off Giroud is impressive.
    100AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:55
    Re: #27
    And in France, no less.

    Like how hard it was for Petagine to wrestle the starting job away from Kiyohara at the Yomiuri Giants — there's always a home-turf bias at play (a famous NPB position battle)
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:42
    Feyenoord, who Ueda left, have scored 25 goals in 7 games — that's over 3 a game
    Strong even without Ueda
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    Re: #33
    You should say they're stronger without Ueda
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:50
    Re: #33
    They got stronger once Ueda left, basically
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:52
    Re: #33
    Isn't this just the "stronger without Shinji Ono" joke all over again?
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:53
    Kamada could've been the hero with the match-winning goal today, but he butchered it and let the chance slip

    What the national team actually needs is that kind of finishing punch from its midfielders
    Compared to the power of Hidetoshi Nakata's shots, Kamada's got basically nothing
    Sano's shot power is an even lower tier

    Ueda also needs to start banging in more decisive strikes as a forward,
    or none of this matters

    A goal that just drags you back level after falling behind, like today's, is the easy kind to score anyway
    And the finish itself wasn't anything special — Asia-level, J-League-level stuff

    It's not that the keeper was good, it's that the level of finish Ueda's capable of is low
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:57
    Re: #45
    True, aside from goals like that one… (this post seems to have a typo mixing in Ki Sung-yueng's name) we don't really see thunderous "Bati-goals" like Batistuta's from him, do we?
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:26
    Unbelievable compared to about 20 years ago
    Back in the hellish days of the Yanagisawa "QBK" and "enemy spy" Takahara strike partnership,
    you can really see how far the level's come now (QBK is an old meme mocking Atsushi Yanagisawa's infamous open-goal miss)
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Re: #77
    Wild that a casual fan who can only talk about Yanagisawa and Takahara at that level still hasn't grown out of it after decades
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:31
    Re: #77
    Wasn't even born 20 years ago, but… wait, "Yanagishiwa" and "Takuharu"? Weren't those the Golden Generation's go-to scorers? (playful misspellings of Yanagisawa and Takahara)
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:37
    Re: #77
    Takahara scored double-digit goals in the Bundesliga, you know
    Right around the same age Ueda is now
    He even once ended Oliver Kahn's clean-sheet streak
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Watched the highlights and Lille's defense is a mess
    No wonder they're bottom of the table
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Re: #80
    Oh, it was the opponent who's actually bottom of the table
    Still, that defense was awful
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:45
    What I really want is a Japanese Premier League top scorer, basically a Japanese Son Heung-min
    93AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:47
    Re: #92
    A few years ago, nobody
    would've predicted
    double-digit numbers of Japanese players
    playing in the Premier League
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:48
    Re: #92
    Whatever happened to Kiyogo? If he'd gone to Spurs back then, he might've been the one to become Premier League top scorer (fan nickname; unclear which player is meant)
    96AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:50
    This guy heads the ball a ton — hope that's not a health issue
    No crazy statements out of him so far at least
    But heading's linked to higher dementia risk, right? Hope he's okay
    98AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:52
    Re: #96
    Still better than American football or rugby though
    Feels like rugby players are getting concussed constantly

    Background and Key Talking Points

    Ayase Ueda transferred this past summer from Dutch powerhouse Feyenoord to league-leading Lille in France’s Ligue 1, and this goal was his 3rd in 4 official matches since joining. Thread opinion split mainly over comparing league quality, with comments going back and forth between “he needs to prove it in the Premier League, not France” and “Ligue 1 has lost talent and gotten easier lately.” Another point of debate was how to weigh Feyenoord’s strong form since Ueda’s exit — 25 goals in their last 7 matches — which highlights a twist common in judging a player right after a transfer: the verdict ends up shaped not just by output at the new club, but by how the old club performs without him. It’s also worth noting the match itself was a defeat that knocked Lille from first place, a reminder that Ueda’s individual performance and the team’s results don’t always line up.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Soccer] Ayase Ueda scores again! Blistering left-footed strike makes it 3 in 4 official games since joining! Lille suffer crushing loss to bottom-placed Nice, fall from first.”

  • Tottenham Sink to Bottom of the Table for First Time in 17 Years — Still Winless After £300M+ Spending Spree

    Tottenham lost 2-3 to Aston Villa in Matchday 5 of the Premier League on September 19, 2026, leaving them winless with 2 draws and 3 losses through five matches and dropping to the bottom of the table for the first time since 2009 — a 17-year low. Coming right after a summer spending spree of over £300 million (roughly ¥64.5 billion), the slump split opinion on 5ch threads between shock that “they’re way too weak for the money spent” and voices pointing to a “structural problem with the club itself,” the same complaint past managers like Mourinho and Conte have voiced before.

    Tottenham of England’s Premier League have fallen to the bottom of the league table for the first time since 2009. Roberto De Zerbi’s side are winless through five matches, with 2 draws and 3 losses. Despite a summer spending spree of over £300 million (roughly ¥64.5 billion), the results haven’t followed, giving the club its worst start since the 2008/09 season.

    Dropping to Last Place

    Tottenham faced Aston Villa in Matchday 5, played on the 19th local time. Johann Manzambi opened the scoring in first-half stoppage time, and Villa doubled their lead through Nicolas Jackson and Emiliano Buendia in the second half, putting Tottenham 3-0 down. Connor Gallagher and Jan Paul van Hecke pulled two goals back late on, but Tottenham fell 2-3.

    Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:39
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    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Re: #1
    It's still early days lol.
    Come back and freak out once we hit the final 5 matches.
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    Re: #3
    By then relegation'll probably already be confirmed
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Go get Lineker and Gascoigne in there
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:41
    Wasn't De Zerbi at Brighton before this?
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:45
    They were actually good back when Kane was still there
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    Blowing tens of billions of yen on transfers and still losing — sounds like one of those Middle Eastern clubs that loses to J.League sides
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    They barely avoided relegation to the second division last season too, so it's razor thin… well, it's still early this season, who knows how it'll go
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:48
    Lol, Tottenham's abbreviation being 'TOT' feels about right today
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:49
    What's even the motivation for supporting a weak football team?
    There's basically zero chance they ever win a title, right?
    Aren't you just wasting your life?
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:50
    Re: #17
    Well, they could always win a lower division (´・ω・`)
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:51
    Re: #17
    I mean, it's basically like cheering for Japan at the World Cup, right?
    But if they ever pull off a miracle title run like Leicester did, the adrenaline rush would be insane
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:52
    Re: #17
    Normally it's because it's your hometown club.
    Japanese fans who support Premier League clubs are basically glory hunters (グロハン),
    though some of them are more like sports snobs
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:49
    Guess Son-hyung (Son Heung-min) and 'Hurricane' really were as great as everyone said
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:50
    If Zion hadn't been out there they'd have won like 4-2, so they'll get the win next time lol
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:53
    There are people out there who mistake watching sports for some kind of daily stress relief.
    Like supporting Real Madrid or Barcelona, or the Yomiuri Giants here in Japan I guess?
    So what, are those guys about to jump ship to PSG next?
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:58
    Re: #24
    Barcelona have been scoring like crazy and are red hot since Rodri joined — Barcelona's the pick right now
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:55
    Who'd have thought Aston Villa and Tottenham would be fighting it out for bottom of the table
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:56
    Turns out De Zerbi wasn't some managerial genius — it was Brighton's front office that was actually good
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:57
    Go get someone like Davids in there to do the dirty work. You need a mad dog on the pitch or nothing's going to change.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:03
    Knew they were weak but didn't expect them to have spent 60 billion yen. It's basically the Premier League's version of the Mets
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:55
    Re: #32
    And it's not like they're broke and can't afford proper signings either —
    with this much experienced coaching staff and this much squad depth, this might genuinely be beyond saving
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:04
    More than that, it's honestly sad seeing Lampard start to go comb-over bald.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:06
    Re: #37
    He was already thinning before he retired as a player so that tracks.
    Honestly impressive he's held on this long without a hair transplant
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    Spurs fans are surprisingly quiet even with results this bad. If this were Liverpool there'd be a riot lol
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:28
    Re: #48
    The sight of them calmly filing out like it's a fire drill is kind of heartbreaking
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:30
    Guess that brief stretch when they were above Arsenal really was the good old days
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:49
    Re: #51
    I remember Ben Mabry being a Spurs supporter back in the top flight, delighted that whenever Spurs were above their rivals in the table, the derby got nicknamed the North "UP" London Derby.
    The individual players are all famous names and age isn't really the issue, but way too many of them seem to be past their peak.
    And up front, Xavi Simons, Tel, and Marmoush have all been busts too.
    60AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:56
    Re: #1
    The usual routine:

    Mourinho: "The one club I could never love is Tottenham."
    Conte: "This is the story of a Tottenham that hasn't won anything in 20 years."
    Postecoglou: "This club has no foundations. Not inside, not outside."
    Frank: "Give me more time. Nobody could pull this off."
    De Zerbi: "In 14 years as a coach, I've never seen a team like this. This fragile, this inconsistent." ←New‼︎
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:06
    Re: #60
    They've got the popularity and the money, so why does it keep ending up like this?
    Genuinely baffling
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:59
    Since it's a club stuck in an awkward middle tier, maybe the players end up thinking 'decent results are good enough' instead of actually chasing the title
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:06
    Re: #62
    Even if they ignore the manager and get frozen out, they're still guaranteed a salary big enough to live comfortably for the rest of their lives
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:06
    Unlike Carrick over at similarly struggling Man United, De Zerbi actually got to spend all this money on the players he wanted — so there's no sympathy here, isn't he just plain incompetent?
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:30
    Re: #70
    At first it was a thrown-together squad in a World Cup year, so a lack of chemistry was somewhat forgivable,
    but if it's still like this by the end of the year, it's over
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:30
    Standings
    1 Manchester City 15
    2 Arsenal 12
    3 Brighton 10
    4 Brentford 9
    5 Leeds 9
    6 Liverpool 9
    7 Everton 9
    8 Hull City 8
    9 Newcastle 8
    10 Chelsea 7
    11 Ipswich 6
    12 Manchester United 5
    13 Nottingham Forest 5
    14 Sunderland 4
    15 Crystal Palace 4
    16 Aston Villa 4
    17 Bournemouth 3
    ------------
    18 Coventry City 3
    19 Fulham 2
    20 Tottenham 2
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:32
    Re: #79
    Man United are turning back into 'Weak United' again…

    Background and Talking Points

    Tottenham last won a league title back in 1961, and haven’t lifted a major cup since the 2008 League Cup, earning them a reputation as the club with plenty of money but nothing to show for it. The quotes from departed managers Mourinho, Conte, and Postecoglou cited in the thread show that this same complaint has surfaced under manager after manager, so De Zerbi’s current struggles aren’t really anything new. It’s also worth noting that “bottom of the table for the first time since 2009” doesn’t mean this is the worst moment in club history — it’s simply their position in this season’s table so far, a distinction that’s easy to misread. This summer’s spending was among the largest in the entire Premier League, so pressure on the manager is likely to keep building if results don’t turn around.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Football] Tottenham Fall to Bottom of the Table for First Time Since 2009 as ~£300M Signings Fail to Deliver — The 17-Year-Old Nightmare Returns.”

  • Yoichiro Kashiya Admits Fellow Draftee Shinji Kagawa Was His ‘Biggest Wall’

    Former Japan national team forward Yoichiro Kashiya opened up about his career-long rivalries on TBS’s “Life’s Best Restaurant.” Kashiya, who signed with Cerezo Osaka in 2006 as the youngest pro in club history and was dubbed a “genius,” revealed that fellow draftee Shinji Kagawa was “the biggest wall” he faced. He also looked back on how Kagawa, an unknown at the time he joined the club, began to break out in his second year. The thread sparked by this story was full of nostalgia for Kagawa’s brilliance during his Dortmund days, but the conversation soon expanded to cover how current players like Takefusa Kubo and Ryunosuke Sato are being used, as well as opinions on Keisuke Honda’s work as a pundit—turning into a cross-generational debate over Japan’s greatest attackers.

    Former Japan national team forward Yoichiro Kashiya appeared on TBS’s “Life’s Best Restaurant” (Saturdays, 11:30 PM), which aired on the 19th. During the show, he opened up about his feelings toward a rival.

    Kashiya signed a professional contract with Cerezo Osaka in 2006, while still a first-year high schooler, becoming the youngest pro in club history and earning the “genius” label. When host Koji Kato brought up, “Kagawa (Shinji) was there at the time, right?”, Kashiya replied, “That’s right. He was honestly the biggest wall I faced,” referring to Kagawa, who joined the club in the same year and was one year older.

    “I didn’t even know the name Shinji Kagawa, and I had no idea he’d go pro,” Kashiya said. He recalled that in their first year, neither of them could break into the first team and they “trained together in what you’d call the reserve squad,” but by year two, “Shinji Kagawa started getting noticed by the world. He was just that good.”

    Source: hochi.news / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:24
    Re: #1
    Neither Ryunosuke Sato nor Takefusa Kubo played in Valencia vs. Real Sociedad… Kubo's started on the bench for 4 straight matches now, clearly slipping down the pecking order
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c2193d5c88b0161a21cdfc610dfe5c9f55d7e400
    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:26
    The way Kagawa could blow past a defender on his first touch after receiving a pass — I'd never seen that from any Japan international before or since. Blew me away.
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:31
    He was razor-sharp in his Dortmund days before the Man U move.
    That thing where only one guy looks like he's moving at 1.5x speed — that's what real world-class looks like.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:06
    Re: #4
    Same feeling here.
    Really felt it in that friendly against Korea they played in Sapporo too.
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:32
    If Kashiya had the stamina for it, he probably could've stepped up after his stint in the Swiss league.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:59
    Re: #5
    Stamina's just a convenient excuse he tells himself — sure, he had the technique on the ball,
    but his off-the-ball movement was never good,
    and in the end he finished his career as just a decent J.League player.
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:34
    If a guy's that insanely good, doesn't it work the other way too — like, 'ah, he'll be off overseas soon anyway'?
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:45
    Re: #6
    2006 wasn't really an era where guys went overseas that fast.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:35
    There was a time I thought Kashiya might make it as big as Kagawa.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    Bias aside, Kagawa looked way more impressive to me than Kubo.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:04
    Kaki-P's a great talker (Kashiya's nickname).
    Thought he was just a soccer-brained airhead.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:14
    Re: #24
    He was good at soccer, but his talking skills were even better.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:18
    First it was hyping up Uchida, now it's hyping up Kashiya?
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    Re: #32
    Uchida's about to head back into the game, so Kashiya's probably filling in as his replacement.
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:43
    Re: #41
    Yeah, he went into women's soccer.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:19
    Wasn't Kashiya actually the one who got called a 'genius' first?
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:22
    Re: #35
    Kashiya got attention for scoring incredible goals at international youth tournaments.
    I didn't even know who Kagawa was until he broke out in J2.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:21
    A lot of soccer players aren't exactly sharp, so I'd imagine their second careers are tough.
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:25
    Re: #36
    There aren't many matches in soccer.
    That means there aren't just few coaching spots — there are also few 'industry insider' spots, like TV commentator or pundit roles.
    I've got a hunch the J.League keeps expanding partly because it needs to create jobs for guys after they retire.
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    Re: #36
    Things University of Tokyo students do as hobbies:
    Soccer >>> pig sugoroku (a silly dice-and-board party game — the joke being even elite students rate real soccer far above some trivial parlor game)
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:29
    Kashiya used to do a toto (the JFA's official football pools) prediction show every matchweek back during the '100 Year Vision' era,
    and it really came through that he genuinely loved soccer and watched a ton of it.
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Re: #45
    His YouTube sit-down with Kiyotake is a great watch — he's clearly done his homework, and he's amazing at putting strengths and weaknesses into words.
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:48
    Kagawa's still got the best résumé of any Japanese player, hands down.
    Won back-to-back Bundesliga titles in Germany, beating out Bayern — and he was a key player on the team, not a bench guy.
    No Japanese player has topped that record yet.
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:52
    Re: #57
    He was clearly outplaying Lewandowski back then, no question.
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:59
    Re: #57
    Actually the results were better when Kagawa was injured —
    it didn't matter whether Kagawa was even on the pitch.
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:13
    Re: #57
    He won the Premier League too, on top of that.
    Re: #58
    Right, and back then Lewandowski was playing behind him at attacking mid, as Kagawa's backup.
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:54
    A player whose name is somehow famous even though I've never once seen him actually play.
    66AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:03
    Re: #62
    Sounds like a Kubo who doesn't dribble.
    65AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:01
    Kagawa's real achievement was proving that late runs from the number 10 role could be one of the few weapons a Japanese player can reliably have — sure, he lacked the physicality and top speed for the real duels,
    but he held onto agility as an edge.

    Nakata's path of trying to muscle through in Europe didn't really translate, but Kagawa showed a 'Kagawa-type' player could make it —
    and a whole line of successors followed that model.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:04
    Re: #65
    Isn't Kaisedo Sano more the Nakata type, though?
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:08
    Kagawa peaked way too early.
    20 to 23 was his prime, and it was all downhill after that.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:10
    Re: #72
    I'd say 21-22 was really his absolute peak.
    Classic early-bloomer type, like those old-school Brazilian players — brilliant young, then basically washed up by his mid-20s.
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:09
    Re: #64
    European leagues aren't that forgiving — if that were really true, he wouldn't have gotten regular playing time at all.
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:12
    Re: #74
    Yeah, Dortmund was the only club that ever really played him.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:15
    Hard to believe it's already been 12 years since Kashiya was a nationwide sports sensation for that one half-year stretch.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Yoichiro Kashiya signed a professional contract with Cerezo Osaka in 2006 while still in high school, becoming the youngest player in club history and earning the nickname “genius.” Shinji Kagawa, who joined the club the same year, went on to break out in J2 before moving to Borussia Dortmund in 2010, where he became a key player in back-to-back Bundesliga title wins — one of the most decorated résumés of any Japanese player. Kashiya also played abroad, in Italy and Switzerland, but never established himself in Europe to the same degree as Kagawa. The thread was mostly filled with nostalgia for Kagawa at his peak, but the conversation gradually broadened to include how current players like Takefusa Kubo and Ryunosuke Sato are being used, as well as opinions on Keisuke Honda’s work as a pundit — turning into a wider, cross-generational comparison of Japanese attackers. One notable point of surprise: Kagawa and Lewandowski were teammates at Dortmund at the same time, with Kagawa as the starter and Lewandowski coming off the bench behind him — a stark contrast to how the two are regarded today.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Speed+) thread “[Soccer] The player Yoichiro Kashiya, once dubbed a “genius,” calls his “biggest wall” — the talent he was jealous of and “didn’t even want to talk about”.”

  • Takehiro Tomiyasu Subbed Off at Halftime With Injury — 5ch: ‘The Man Who Always Rises From the Dead’

    Crystal Palace’s Takehiro Tomiyasu was substituted midway through halftime in the Premier League’s Matchday 5 clash with Leeds (a scoreless draw) on September 20 local time. He had started at the center of a back three, but after the match the manager explained that he had “hurt his calf.” With the Japan national team set to convene on the 21st, concern is mounting over the impact on his call-up, and on 5ch, comments praising his actual performance mixed with laments over his recurring injuries, with some calling him a “Spelunker” (after the notoriously fragile video-game character). Opinions also weighed in heavily on how he’s being used by the national team amid a packed schedule.

    “He wasn’t in a state where he should have pushed through.”

    In Matchday 5 of the Premier League, held on September 20 local time, Crystal Palace — home to Daichi Kamada and Takehiro Tomiyasu — traveled to face Leeds, who count Ao Tanaka in their ranks. The match ended in a scoreless draw.

    In this game, Tomiyasu, who started at the center of the back three, was substituted at halftime.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:21
    Something looked off, so it was probably a precautionary sub, but…
    he's just a hard player to rely on.
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:22
    Time to retire.
    No club's going to sign him after this.
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:22
    He was playing really well, what a waste.
    Zion and Tomiyasu have quietly turned into pros at ball distribution.
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:22
    Re: #1
    Valencia vs Real Sociedad — neither Ryunosuke Sato nor Takefusa Kubo featured… Kubo's now started on the bench four matches running, clearly sliding down the pecking order
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c2193d5c88b0161a21cdfc610dfe5c9f55d7e400
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:25
    Had a bad feeling the moment I saw he was starting.
    His actual performance was good, though — didn't expect him to break down before halftime.
    Who do they call up in his place?
    The names being floated would do fine — Okamura from Machida, Inamura from FC Tokyo, or Inoue from Yokohama.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:28
    He's basically a one-trick pony out there and still can't stay fit… how does that even happen?
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:29
    He should just move to a less physically demanding league.
    Serie A or something — how about that?
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:30
    Play like Kazu (Kazuyoshi Miura, still playing pro football in his late 50s).
    He could go until 50.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:31
    He's already got the 'Premier League player' title to his name.
    He'd probably be happier seeing out his career in a lower-tier league from here.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:32
    If he doesn't withdraw from the national team and plays anyway, it'll only get worse.
    A defender who can't last 90 minutes is nothing but a liability.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:33
    His legs are already wrecked. He won't be able to walk properly when he's older. He should just retire.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    Every single match, all anyone talks about is whether he got hurt or not.
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    Spelunkered again, huh.
    Must just be his constitution.
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:37
    The usual 'shockwave' headline, right on schedule.
    It's rarer for there NOT to be a 'shockwave' these days.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:37
    If it's just his calf, that's like a month out — the man who always rises from the dead.
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:41
    Is he going to be out for all four matches in the September/October international windows?
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:43
    Re: #38
    He'll probably be fine by October, but he'll likely pick up a new injury before then.
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:43
    Someone make a Spelunker remake starring a Tomiyasu character.
    AI could pull that off, right?
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:46
    Min-jae's starting for Bayern.
    The gap between them has really widened.
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:48
    For the sake of his second career, he should retire and focus on treatment.
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:48
    A center-back who gets injured one out of every three matches is just impossible to rely on.
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:54
    He should skip the Asia trip.
    Good thing it doesn't sound like the same spot as before.
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:55
    Playing the full 90 against Brazil was basically a miracle.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:00
    Honestly his performance was excellent.
    But it's always right when he's playing well that he gets hurt.
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:06
    Right now the national team should just be put on the back burner for him.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:07
    Enough already 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:07
    There's no need to call Tomiyasu up until the final qualifiers.
    Part of why he's so injury-prone is that Moriyasu has been running him into the ground.
    Get it together, you idiots at the JFA lol
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:08
    He ate the Spel-Spel Fruit and became a full-body Spelunker (a One Piece-style joke — he's fragile everywhere).
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:20
    Did it again, huh.
    Tomiyasu's probably done at this point.
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:21
    A fake injury to dodge the national team call-up?
    Smart move if so.
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:24
    8/22 Matchday 1: 19 minutes
    8/28 Matchday 2: 74 minutes
    9/5 Matchday 3: rested
    9/12 Matchday 4: 54 minutes
    9/20 Matchday 5: 46 minutes

    At this point it's basically abuse.
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    It's just a friendly, he doesn't need to show up for the national team.
    Honestly, you shouldn't even be planning around a player who gets injured this much.
    60AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Nothing but fragile players and rejects left in this washed-up excuse for a football scene (lol)
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:32
    Isn't this a planned substitution just to dodge the national team?
    Totally fine by me though.
    62AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:34
    Why does someone always show up saying 'Tomiyasu hasn't been injured for a little while now, he's cured! Someone tell Mitoma!' like clockwork?
    Is it amnesia or something?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Tomiyasu has repeatedly suffered injuries — to his hip, knee, hamstring, and other areas — dating back to his time at Arsenal in 2023, and this latest injury is being discussed in that context. As of this writing, the only official information is the manager’s comment about a “calf injury”; the results of any detailed examination and the length of his absence had not yet been confirmed at the time of this article. In the thread, some pointed to his playing time this season (Matchday 1: 19 min, Matchday 2: 74 min, Matchday 3: rested, Matchday 4: 54 min, Matchday 5: 46 min) to question how he’s being used, which could be read as the result of both club and country repeatedly giving him short spells on the pitch. Meanwhile, some speculated this could be a precautionary move to avoid a national-team call-up, though that remains pure speculation. Worth noting: his on-field performance itself is being rated highly, and the discussion tends to treat his injuries and his performance as separate issues.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Soccer] Shockwave hits the Japan national team as it convenes on the 21st… Takehiro Tomiyasu subbed off with injury. Palace manager explains the situation: “He hurt his calf”.”

  • Kubo and Sato Both Benched the Whole Match as La Liga Round Wraps Up — Both Off to Join Japan Squad

    In the Valencia vs. Real Sociedad clash, both Take Kubo (Sociedad) and Ryuji Sato (Valencia) — Japanese internationals playing in Spain’s top flight — started on the bench and never got off it. Sociedad won a wild 3-2 shootout. With this being the last league match before the international break, both players missed out entirely: Kubo has now started on the bench for four straight official matches, Sato for two in a row. On 5ch, posters debated whether the slide down the pecking order comes down to tactics, physical condition, or mentality, and compared the pair to Kang-in Lee, who’s been in fine form over the same stretch.

    [Sept. 20 — La Liga Matchday 7: Valencia 2-3 Real Sociedad]

    La Liga’s Matchday 7 fixtures were played around the country on the 20th, including a meeting between Real Sociedad, home of midfielder Take Kubo, and Valencia, home of midfielder Ryuji Sato. Both Kubo and Sato started on the bench, and incredibly, neither one got a single minute. Both now head into Japan national team duty on a sharp downward slide in club status. The match itself was a fierce, high-scoring affair, with Sociedad winning 3-2.

    It was the last league match before the international break. Both players, named to Japan’s squad for the September/October window, had been getting minutes early in the season, but have since lost their starting spots — Kubo has now started from the bench in four straight official matches, Sato in two.

    Source: web.gekisaka.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:31
    Same old pattern with "Sugar" too (a pun on Sato's name — 砂糖/"sugar" is read the same as Sato) — all hype at first, then nothing.
    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:31
    Where'd Kyutaro go?
    He just vanished, huh.
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:32
    The team's better off without Kubo.
    Sato's minutes are drying up too, which is bad for his development — done.
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:33
    Kubo's fallen off, huh~
    Nakai's time now.
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    He'd be better off going back to be king of the J.League.
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:38
    Re: #10
    He never had much of a scoring touch to begin with — even in the J.League he was just a sideline trickster who'd beat one man and stop there. Don't think that's changed much.
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:55
    Re: #10
    He couldn't even manage that.
    Outside the top two clubs, La Liga isn't that different from the J.League anyway.
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    A lot of national team players are scared of the Sano brothers.
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    The Kubo faithful ("Kubo-shin"): "Take was smiling on the bench, so it's not really a demotion."
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    Atletico start Lee Kang-in for the 7th straight match
    Lee Kang-in drives Atletico's attack and sets up the second goal, Atletico win
    Atletico 2-1 Real Madrid
    https://x.com/BibimBallers/status/2101701245874393557
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Re: #13
    Lee Kang-in started in the derby and beat Real Madrid,
    while Kubo didn't even leave the Sociedad bench…
    Proof once again that Sociedad are stronger without Kubo — brutal result for the Kubo faithful…
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    But isn't he supposed to be the face of the national team?
    Funny how he gets called up for Japan while he can't even get off the bench for his club.
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:36
    Same as Ohtani —
    the team's stronger without him,
    and the results back it up, so there's no arguing it now.
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:39
    Can't speak for Sato, but if Kubo were really sliding down the order he'd probably have transferred by now, so who knows.
    It almost feels like the club is building its system around him eventually leaving, using him while they still have him.
    Doubt they'll keep that up for a whole year, though — maybe a winter move?
    Contrary to the impression you get from the article, they've actually looked shaky even against weak clubs.
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:39
    There's just no fixing that physique.
    Anyone could tell he had no room to grow back in his teens.
    Figured he'd be completely unusable by his mid-20s.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Is it mental, or lingering effects from the injury he picked up at the World Cup?
    His play's definitely lost its edge.
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Meanwhile Lee Kang-in was putting on a show in the Madrid derby.
    Still holding out hope Sato can turn it around.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:40
    Sato just doesn't have the physicality — he's not cutting it at all.
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:43
    Re: #24
    Then how do you explain him dominating in preseason?
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:41
    Forget that, apparently Tomiyasu's injured again.
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:41
    Slapping labels like "Japan's Messi" or "the Japanese Curry" (as in Steph Curry) on someone never ends well.
    27AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:41
    These guys are hopeless.
    La Liga's just a graveyard for Japanese players.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:42
    If he were riding the bench at PSG like Kang-in, at least that'd look respectable.
    But while Kang-in — once called his rival — was quietly starting and winning the Madrid derby, Kubo was…
    How did the gap get this big?
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:42
    Both of them are pretty short too.
    Sato especially needed to score early and make his case while he still had playing time.
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:44
    Kubo needs to build up his core way more, like Okazaki did when he overhauled his body in his late 20s.
    As he is now, he's on track to be nothing more than a slightly more sociable Usami.
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:47
    Kubo's dribbling and ball control really do hold up in La Liga, no question.
    But that alone never seems to translate into a string of goals or beating two defenders to finish it off — that part's just missing.
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:49
    Re: #40
    Doesn't mean much being good far from goal.
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:50
    Re: #40
    Sure, with a favorable setup or support from teammates, fine — but blowing past two defenders sitting deep from a standing start takes a Messi, nobody else can do that.


    Anyway, there might be a Tottenham move in the winter.
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:52
    Re: #39
    That's the "conductor" guy, right?
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:58
    Re: #52
    Kagawa's old fanboys switched over to being Kubo fanboys.
    The torch gets passed right here.
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:52
    Kang-in started against Real and helped take them down.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:55
    Re: #54
    Beat Valverde, you mean.
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 07:59
    This from the last match had me cracking up
    — Oskarsson's wide open, but instead of passing he goes for a solo dribble ("onadori" — hogging the ball instead of passing) → gets tangled up and loses it → appeals for a foul → Oskarsson loses it
    https://imgur.com/dKjkl5s
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:01
    Re: #72
    He's been nothing but a hindrance since his national team days.
    Team's stronger without him.
    88AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:07
    The "wonder kid" title belongs to Mitsuidera now.
    We'll be riding high on Mitsuidera hype ("hol-hol," basking in smug pride) for the next five years.
    91AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:09
    Re: #88
    What about the FC Tokyo kid?
    Forget his name, but he debuted at like 15, right?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Both Kubo and Sato had been getting playing time early in the season but have since lost their starting spots. The comparison that came up again and again in the thread was Kang-in Lee, once described as Kubo’s rival, whose start (and win) against Real Madrid in the Madrid derby was repeatedly held up as a contrast. That said, club playing time and national team call-ups are separate matters — being left out of the matchday squad doesn’t necessarily rule out a national team selection. The thread was split between the view that “the team is better off without him” and the view that “things could change with a winter transfer,” with opinions divided over whether the cause lies in physical condition, tactics, or mentality. A few names of up-and-coming young players came up as well, though the thread alone doesn’t offer enough detail to confirm their track records.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisports Sokuhou+) thread “[Soccer] Kubo vs. Sato: Shocking No-Show for Both in Japan-vs-Japan Showdown — Both Head to Japan Squad Amid Plummeting Club Status.”

  • Gen Z: “No Need for Booze, Golf, or Cars” — 5ch Fires Back: “Golf Costs Money, Though”

    Nikkei Cross Trend’s report that Japan’s “oshikatsu” (fan-support spending) market has grown an estimated 32% over three years to reach ¥3.4 trillion sparked a thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board about Gen Z spending habits. While Gen Z is often said to skip traditional “adult hobbies” like golf, drinking, smoking, cars, gambling, and watches, some posters noted that young employees at their companies golf constantly, and that people in their 20s make up a notable share of pachinko and boat-racing participants — highlighting a gap between the generational narrative and the actual numbers.

    Japan’s Fan-Support Spending Market Grows 30% in Three Years to ¥3.4 Trillion — Data Reveals What’s Driving the Growth

    In fact, even excluding indirect spending such as travel and dining out, the fan-support spending market has reached an estimated ¥3.4 trillion, growing roughly 32% over the past three years.

    So what’s driving this growth?

    Source: xtrend.nikkei.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:29
    If the entertainment industry's booming, people must basically be well-off — so raising taxes shouldn't be a problem. We're talking about a nation dumb enough to donate hundreds of millions of yen to that 24-hour charity TV telethon.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:30
    Why did golf fall out of fashion? It's ridiculously fun. Plus if you're good at it, you're popular with women.
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:31
    Re: #8
    At my company the young guys golf like crazy too. They drink a ton as well.
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:32
    Re: #8
    Golf really is fun. I'm 28 and totally hooked on it right now.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:32
    Re: #8
    Golf costs money, though.
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:33
    Only a small niche of otaku are actually obsessed with singers and actors anyway.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:37
    Re: #26
    Among Gen Z, a YouTuber with maybe 500,000 subscribers probably has more name recognition than a B-list celebrity or an aging big-name star.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:39
    Re: #13
    I've gotta start golfing but I have no idea what to buy or where to begin… For now a senior coworker gave me a full set of clubs and a bag.
    40AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:40
    Re: #38
    If you got those, all that's left is to practice at the driving range.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:43
    Re: #38
    People always say to practice with a 7-iron first, but I think irons are hard, so I figure it's safer to just start with the driver.
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:44
    Re: #38
    If you're heading to the driving range, you can at least work on your grip and stance at home beforehand — that's the most important part.
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:43
    My 50-year-old mom and 70-year-old grandma suddenly started watching anime and got totally obsessed with Chiikawa (a hit cute-character franchise) these past couple of years, and it's honestly getting on my nerves. They're constantly hitting up the Jump Shop and the Chiikawa Store to buy merch, they've seen the Chiikawa movie multiple times, and apparently they go to Kura Sushi (a sushi chain known for its Chiikawa tie-ins) over and over too. Aren't they embarrassed acting like this at their age?
    70AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:52
    Re: #51
    If it's women, I mean… whatever. It's basically a mascot character at this point, practically a national phenomenon.
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:45
    "Oshikatsu" (fan-support spending) basically just means women, right? Booze and cigarettes are gone, but that part stuck around.
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:46
    Re: #58
    Anime and plastic models aren't just a women's thing though.
    69AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:51
    What's actually fun about golf?
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:53
    Re: #69
    The girls' outfits are cute, the food tastes great out there, and it feels amazing when you hit a clean shot.
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:17
    Re: #69
    Honestly I think it's kind of a sport for otaku types. You know how they love stuff like "my original deck build!" or "my own custom shortcut technique!" — it's that same energy.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:53
    I think the pachinko/slot player population is somewhere around 7-8 million, and apparently 30% of them are in their 20s, so it doesn't seem like Gen Z has actually given up on gambling.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:00
    Re: #72
    Boat racing's seen a huge jump in young fans too.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:55
    Gen Z is going all-in on NISA (Japan's tax-free investment account) instead.
    90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:19
    Re: #75
    Nah, the reality is almost nobody's actually trading stocks.
    93AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:24
    Re: #75
    Dream goal: a comfortable, carefree life in a nursing home! Is that really living, though?
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:58
    Re: #77
    Everyone's hobbies look pointless from the outside. Even "oshikatsu" looks like nothing but throwing money away to me.
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:00
    Re: #79
    But this whole thread feels like it's ranking certain hobbies as higher or lower status than others.
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:21
    Re: #88
    Does anyone actually do it outside of work obligations?
    105AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:41
    Re: #91
    I do it all the time, for real.
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:35
    Women doing "oshikatsu" is one thing, but men doing it is genuinely concerning.
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:39
    Re: #102
    Otaku = oshikatsu. Same thing.
    110AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:43
    Not that long ago it would've been dumping cash into mobile games instead.
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:45
    Re: #110
    Mobile gaming kind of feels like its boom has passed, honestly.
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:45
    I went and bought a guitar.
    121AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:51
    Re: #113
    Apparently today's otaku ride motorcycles, go camping, fish, and play guitar, all at once.
    118AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:49
    Bowling died off even more quietly than golf did.
    123AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:57
    Re: #118
    Darts: "And what about me?"

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The original article calculated Japan’s fan-support spending market at an estimated ¥3.4 trillion, up 32% over three years. But what the thread actually debated was the underlying assumption behind that framing — that “Gen Z doesn’t buy alcohol, cigarettes, cars, gambling, or luxury watches.” On golf specifically, opinions split between “young employees at my workplace golf all the time” and “it gets avoided because it’s expensive,” suggesting the reality isn’t so clear-cut. Posters also pointed out that people in their 20s make up a notable share of pachinko and boat-racing participants, hinting that the idea of Gen Z “abandoning gambling” may also be an oversimplification. Even “oshikatsu” itself came up as covering far more than idols and anime — golf, camping, and playing instruments were all mentioned — underscoring just how hard it is to sum up a generation in one narrative.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Gen Z: “No need for women, golf, booze, cigarettes, cars, gambling, or watches” ← Turns out we found out what they ARE spending money on wwwwwwww“

  • U-21 Japan Thrash Kyrgyzstan 7-0, Book Asian Games Quarterfinal Spot

    In the men’s soccer first-round group stage at the Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games, the Japan U-21 national team, led by manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa, routed Kyrgyzstan 7-0, clinching a quarterfinal berth with one match still to play. FW Yumeki Yokoyama opened the scoring in the 28th minute with a gorgeous lob shot, and Japan piled on six more goals from there for a lopsided win. The move to swap out seven starters — a response to the lack of finishing flagged after the opening match against Hong Kong (result not specified in the article) — paid off. Reactions on the forum were split between those who discounted the gap by noting Kyrgyzstan played a looser back four than Hong Kong, and those praising manager Oiwa’s knack for getting results.

    ◆Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games ▽Men’s Soccer First Round, Matchday 2 Japan 7-0 Kyrgyzstan (Sept. 20, Toyota Stadium)

    Japan’s U-21 (under-21) national team in Group A crushed Kyrgyzstan 7-0 to secure a quarterfinal spot. With a 6-point gap now over third place in the group, Japan advanced from the group stage with one match still remaining.

    Manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa changed seven starters from the opening match against Hong Kong on the 16th, bringing in FW Yumeki Yokoyama among others. In the 28th minute, Yokoyama delivered a brilliant opener: latching onto a long ball from MF Yotaro Nakajima, he lobbed a one-touch shot that sailed over the keeper’s head and dropped straight into the net.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Looks like Shimamoto, a natural defensive midfielder, will end up playing as the lone striker.
    Well, until they hit a match they might actually lose, they'll probably just keep going with Michiwaki and Nwadike up top.
    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Saying they 'fixed their lack of finishing' against Kyrgyzstan of all teams doesn't mean much though.
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:54
    Re: #4
    Hong Kong played a back five, but Kyrgyzstan had a back four.
    Though Kyrgyzstan's defenders were overage (OA) players.
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:02
    Re: #4
    This is a lack of finishing too.

    [Asian Games] Men's basketball: South Korea wins first gold in three Games, comes from behind to beat Japan — Lee Hyun-jung and other NBA hopefuls exempted from military service [Amidagamine★]
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1789910570/
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:53
    Stopped watching after the first goal — so they scored six more after that?
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:54
    Re: #1

    ⚽ Japan National Team Schedule

    Aichi Asian Games, Men's Soccer
    9/23 (Wed) 19:30~
    Japan vs Thailand 🇹🇭
    📺 TBS

    Kirin Cup
    9/24 (Thu) 19:05~
    Japan vs Uruguay 🇺🇾
    Q&A Stadium Miyagi
    📺 Fuji TV

    Kirin Cup
    9/28 (Mon) 19:25~
    Japan vs Venezuela 🇻🇪
    Edion Peace Wing Hiroshima
    📺 NTV

    Kirin Cup
    10/1 (Thu) 19:10~
    Japan vs Ecuador 🇪🇨
    Yokohama International Stadium
    📺 TBS network

    Kirin Cup
    10/5 (Mon) 19:30~
    Japan vs Panama 🇵🇦 or New Zealand 🇳🇿
    National Stadium
    📺 TV Asahi
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Re: #7
    Such a shame — it's a full three-week international match window, but Europe's tied up with their own Nations League so no games there, and Asia's flooded with requests so they get turned down too. No wonder the schedule ends up mostly South American opponents.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:55
    They should've broadcast soccer or volleyball instead of that basketball loss.
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:10
    Re: #8
    Can't be helped.
    Nobody thought they'd lose.
    Japan's the one at fault for losing to a South Korea that's buffed by something as big as military-service exemption.
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Isn't Yokoyama the guy who plays for Genk?
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #10
    That's the older brother.
    This one's the younger brother, who plays for Cerezo.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:01
    Re: #10
    That one's the older brother.
    This one's Cerezo.
    No telling how long he'll stay in the J.League, so they need to find at least one usable left winger before the U-23 Asian Cup (LA Olympics qualifier) in January or April 2028.
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Ichihara really is a cut above, huh.
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:01
    Re: #11
    The guy who's not getting playing time at AZ?
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:00
    Re: #1
    ■Players unavailable for the 2026 Asian Games U-21 Japan squad

    Ryunosuke Sato (Spain, 1st division)
    Keisuke Goto (Germany, 1st division)
    Koki Ando (Belgium, 1st division)
    Shion Shinkawa (Belgium, 1st division)
    Gaku Nawata (Belgium, 1st division)
    Shunsuke Saito (Belgium, 1st division)
    Ryoga Kida (Argentina, 1st division)
    Kazuya Kita (Spain, 2nd division)
    Asuma Ikari (Germany, 2nd division)
    Kento Shiogai (Germany, 2nd division)
    Reo Takaoka (Belgium, 2nd division)
    Muki Yoshinaga (Belgium, 2nd division)
    Keito Kojiro (Eintracht Frankfurt second team)
    Sora Yamamoto (Borussia Dortmund second team)
    Ryota Onoda (Augsburg second team)
    Taiyu Yamazaki (Mainz second team)
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:03
    Re: #18
    Wasn't Shiogai called up to the full national team?
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:07
    Re: #18
    Sato, Shiogai, Saito, and Goto are with the A (senior) national team.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:08
    Re: #18
    If it's Sint-Truiden or a second team, there's a chance the clubs let them go.
    For the Paris Olympics too, Sint-Truiden released Kokubo, Chima, and Yamamoto, and the second team released Kein Sato.
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:00
    Guess I'll go watch the Sint-Truiden and LA-generation Saito's match now.
    Taniguchi's in it (using おる, Kansai dialect for 'is/exists').
    Wait, wasn't he dropped from the squad due to injury?
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:04
    Re: #19
    Oh, you can watch it on BS10.
    First time I've ever tuned that channel in.
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:55
    Re: #19
    That's because the manager himself is the type who gets dropped.
    I think the guys called up right now are more of a 'Moriyasu send-off Japan' — centered on Moriyasu's favorites (lit. 'mistresses,' i.e. pet players), not necessarily the best available.
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:07
    Looks like they reflected on that timid, sorry excuse for a match in game one — this time they were aggressive, holding the ball centrally and driving forward.
    Baseball's a lost cause now though.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:11
    The Asian Games really don't mean anything.
    The level's too low — winning this doesn't amount to much.
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:14
    Re: #37
    It's such a low-stakes tournament that everyone except South Korea — who have military-service exemption on the line — shows up with a slapped-together squad.
    It's such a throwaway tournament that Japan and Uzbekistan, who'd normally be favorites, field U-21 sides with no overage (OA) players at all.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:23
    For a tournament at this level, Japan could get by even with its U-21 side missing its 'rook and bishop' (shogi term for being without your two best pieces/players).
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:35
    Re: #52
    It's less about the tournament level and more that they landed in a really easy group.
    Wish the senior team got this kind of luck in the World Cup draw.
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:24
    Last Asian Games they couldn't even get enough players together — it was a brutal lineup of a university select team plus a handful of J.League bench players. Compared to that, this time they managed to call up guys with actual potential.
    Pretty sure none of the players from last time's squad are on the current national team, right?
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:32
    Re: #55
    This time it's hosted in Japan, so the J.League clubs are cooperating a lot more.
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:42
    Re: #55
    Of the players from the last Asian Games squad, only two — Kein Sato and Sekine — made the Paris Olympics squad.
    And of course, not a single one of them has made the senior national team yet.
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:42
    Oiwa's just too good a manager.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:44
    Re: #65
    He's got this mysterious knack for winning the big ones.
    Very Kashima Antlers of him.
    74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:52
    Re: #65
    He gets trashed by the Kashima crowd, but honestly managing the Paris-generation squad wasn't that stressful to watch.
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:59
    Re: #65
    Not widely known, but he's the only manager to have won the AFC Manager of the Year award twice.
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:46
    Re: #67
    Are other countries really slacking though?
    The peninsula (South Korea) is clearly going all-out.
    Wasn't it Uzbekistan — or some country — that copied Japan and switched to a U-21 squad too? Vietnam did that as well, didn't they?
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:53
    Re: #71
    Re: #71
    Of course South Korea goes all-out every time — they've got military exemption on the line.
    Uzbekistan's the same as Japan: U-21 only, no overage players.
    83AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:00
    The tempo's pretty one-dimensional, so they'll probably struggle to break down anyone ranked higher.
    88AnonymousSep 21, 2026 00:10
    Re: #83
    I mean, the opponent parked the bus way too much.
    Don't go getting scared of 21-year-olds, lol.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Men’s soccer at the Asian Games is an age-restricted, U-21-driven competition, and unlike the Olympics, most countries don’t use overage (OA) slots. The exception is South Korea, which — driven by the powerful incentive of military-service exemption for winning gold — fields what amounts to its best possible squad, creating a notable gap in how seriously each country treats selection. The thread repeatedly circled back to this structural question of ‘why is South Korea the only one going all-in?’ Another point of debate was whether swapping seven starters, a response to the lack of finishing criticized after the opening match against Hong Kong, actually paid off — though some discounted the result by noting Kyrgyzstan’s defense was looser than Hong Kong’s. One detail readers might easily miss: many of the top under-21 players at major European clubs, such as Ryunosuke Sato and Keisuke Goto, were effectively impossible to call up, since this tournament isn’t an official FIFA international match window, meaning their clubs are under no obligation to release them. The article also noted that manager Tsuyoshi Oiwa, who also led the Paris Olympics generation, has won the AFC Manager of the Year award multiple times.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisou Sokuhou+) thread ‘[Soccer U-21] Oiwa’s Japan Thrash Kyrgyzstan 7-0 to Reach the Quarterfinals, Hugely Improving on Their Opening-Match Lack of Finishing — Asian Games.’

  • Men’s Basketball: South Korea Wins Gold for First Time in 3 Asian Games, Japan Falls to Silver — 5ch: “They’re Serious Because Military Exemption Is on the Line”

    On September 20, in the Asian Games men’s basketball final at Aichi International Arena, world No. 57 South Korea defeated world No. 22 Japan 67-57 to claim its fifth gold medal and first in 12 years. Japan had reached the final for the first time in 64 years but couldn’t hold its lead and suffered a come-from-ahead loss. South Korea’s ace, Lee Hyun-jung, has signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers for next season, and this gold medal makes him eligible for exemption from South Korea’s mandatory military service. On 5ch, the main point of debate was a “difference in seriousness”: South Korea, with exemptions on the line, fielded a near-full-strength roster using its overage player slots, while Japan — in a sport where it has other major tournaments like the Asian Cup — prioritized developing younger players and didn’t field its best lineup.

    “Asian Games Men’s Basketball Final: Japan National Team 57–67 South Korea National Team” (September 20, Aichi International Arena)

    World No. 57 South Korea, fielding a youth-driven squad, defeated world No. 22 Japan — which had reached the final for the first time in 64 years — to win its fifth gold medal and first in 12 years. Ace Lee Hyun-jung and others, who signed an “Exhibit 10” contract with the NBA’s Trail Blazers for next season, secured a military service exemption with this gold.

    In the 1st quarter, South Korea took the lead behind three-pointers from Lee Hyun-jung and others. Japan fought back with three-pointers from Kanechika and others, forcing turnovers with tenacious defense to catch up and take the lead. The quarter ended 12–16 in South Korea’s favor. The 2nd quarter stayed tight throughout, with neither team giving ground, ending the first half tied 28–28.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:27
    Japan wasn't fielding its best lineup, but what about Korea?
    They had a guy with an NBA Exhibit 10 deal, so were they going full-strength?
    143AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:51
    Re: #20
    Pretty much their full best lineup.
    They even had Seattle's prized gem on the roster.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:31
    Re: #1
    Meanwhile football won 7-0… should've just watched that instead.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:34
    Re: #38
    Japan did put together a somewhat more serious squad than usual for basketball, but it's still U-21 with no overage players, same as ever. Facing a Korea packed with U-23 overseas pros plus overage players going all out, Japan's win rate is probably 30% at best.
    Scoring 7 against Kyrgyzstan doesn't mean anything.
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:34
    Japan was the only team just gambling on three-pointers (運ゲー, lit. "luck game" — 5ch slang for relying on chance instead of skill).
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #50
    Japan's offense just never clicked.
    Still, good to see a proper nail-biter (セメントマッチ, 5ch slang for a tight, grinding low-scoring game) for once.
    The World Cup qualifier with Hachimura was way too one-sided to be interesting.
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:35
    Did Lee Hyun-jung play in the B.League just to win this game?

    Well, military exemption is a huge deal, so…
    112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:46
    Re: #58
    He's not even NBA-level to begin with.
    He was a bench player even in the Australian league.
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:36
    Japanese basketball is going to end up being all mixed-heritage players eventually anyway, so who cares.
    93AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:42
    Re: #60
    I thought the same thing 10 years ago.
    But the reality is mixed-heritage players (ハーフ, "haafu") only dominate through their teens — once they hit their twenties, even "pure" Japanese players start overtaking them.

    Pick a best-five lineup and Hachimura is the only mixed-heritage player who makes it. That's been the story for the last 10 years.
    The rest is one naturalized foreign-born center and three "pure" Japanese players.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:40
    Since a win means military exemption for Korea, there are a lot of events where Korea is the only side actually going all-out.
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:43
    Korea's fielding a full-strength squad for football too, going all in to win.
    For other countries this is supposed to be a place for developing young players and gaining experience.
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:44
    Re: #95
    Meanwhile Japan is apparently going all-out to sabotage them off the court to win lol
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:45
    Re: #95
    Winning gold at the Asian Games gets you a military exemption no matter the sport.
    They're more desperate for the exemption than for the gold itself.
    132AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:49
    Re: #95
    Same as the Olympics — there's a military exemption on the line.
    For Koreans, an Asian Games gold carries the same value as an Olympic gold.
    97AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:43
    Oh, there's a military exemption riding on it. No wonder they're serious. Could be fun if there's ever a Japan-Korea football match.
    127AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:48
    Re: #97
    They're in full serious mode, even using their overage slots.
    165AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #97
    Korea's been on a winning streak in football too lately.
    They call up even their Europe-based players and come in hard for the military exemption.
    Winning Asian Games gold is far easier than finishing top-3 at the Olympics.
    106AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:44
    Most popular sports in Asia

    1. Football
    2. Badminton
    3. Swimming
    4. Basketball
    5. Cycling
    6. Volleyball
    7. Cricket
    8. Table tennis
    9. Tennis
    10. Boxing
    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/samuraigoal/imgs/a/c/ac7ab344.png
    117AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:46
    Getting a military exemption from something as "minor" as the Asian Games is a sweet deal.
    144AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:51
    Re: #117
    That's exactly why even within Korea, a 2023 survey found as many as 44.5% saying it's inappropriate to grant military exemptions to elite athletes.
    It's still fresh in memory how a Korean reporter mocked Son Heung-min's exemption before the World Cup — quite a few Koreans actually dislike the Asian Games exemption system.
    148AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    Why wasn't Japan fielding its best lineup?
    158AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:55
    Re: #148
    For ball sports where Japan also has the Asian Cup, the Asian Games get used to develop backup players instead.
    170AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:57
    Re: #148
    Depending on the sport, the Asian Games carry almost no prestige or value at all.
    149AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:52
    There was zero tension in that game… and it was the final?
    175AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:58
    Re: #149
    Saw this floating around yesterday — it was laid-back enough that a Japanese fan actually posted hoping Korea would win because this player's military service was riding on it.
    He's trying for the NBA this season, but up through last season he was playing in Japan.
    163AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #158
    For women's volleyball it's pretty much the best lineup except for Ishikawa.
    And yet they struggled against Indonesia, which had the fans panicking.
    180AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Re: #163
    No idea why they put Wada and Sato in that lineup.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Under South Korea’s military service law, athletes who win an Olympic medal or an Asian Games gold medal can qualify for exemption from mandatory military service as “culture and sports personnel.” Lee Hyun-jung, who won gold this time, has signed an Exhibit 10 contract with the NBA’s Portland Trail Blazers for next season, so the exemption is a big deal — it lets him keep pursuing the NBA without worrying about his age. Where opinions split on the thread was over the difference in how seriously each country treated the Asian Games. South Korea fielded what was effectively its best lineup, even using overage player slots, while Japan treats the Asian Games as a development ground for younger players in sports where it has higher-status tournaments like the Asian Cup — and again didn’t field its best team this time. This “asymmetry in seriousness” got talked about even more than the final score. One easily misunderstood point: even within South Korea, skepticism toward athletic military exemptions runs deep — a 2023 survey found 44.5% called them “inappropriate.” There was also the incident where a Korean reporter’s comments mocking Son Heung-min’s exemption sparked backlash, showing the exemption system doesn’t have unanimous support even within Korean society.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Asian Games] Men’s Basketball: South Korea Wins Gold for First Time in 3 Asian Games, Comes From Behind to Beat Japan — NBA Hopeful Lee Hyun-jung and Others Get Military Exemption.”

  • Borussia Mönchengladbach, Home to 4 Japanese Players, Opens Season 0-4 with 16 Goals Conceded — German Media: ‘Not Worthy of Being Called a Defense’

    Borussia Mönchengladbach took on Mainz in Matchday 4 of the Bundesliga on September 19, and although they fought back with a penalty from Ko Itakura among other efforts, they fell 3-4, marking a miserable start of four straight opening losses and 16 goals conceded. The club has four Japan national team-caliber players on its roster — Ko Itakura, Daiki Hashioka, Shuto Machino, and Zento Uno — but German media blasted the back line as ‘not worthy of being called a defense.’ On 5channel, a debate broke out between those defending Itakura and those criticizing him over how directly he was responsible for the goals conceded.

    ‘Not top-flight level,’ ‘A disaster’ — German powerhouse with a Japanese quartet mired in a dismal four straight opening losses. German media slams the ‘historic collapse’ after conceding 16 goals: the back line marshaled by a Japan national team defender is ‘not worthy of being called a defense’

    ‘There’s no sign their slump is letting up’

    Borussia Mönchengladbach, home to the Japanese quartet of Ko Itakura, Daiki Hashioka, Shuto Machino, and Zento Uno, took on Mainz in Matchday 4 of the Bundesliga on September 19 local time. They fought back with a penalty from Machino among other efforts, but lost a 3-4 shootout of a match, extending their miserable run to four straight opening losses.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:05
    (∪^ω^)Woof woof!
      ∪  |
      し ⌒J
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:07
    Never thought Itakura would actually fail to cut it there
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    So embarrassing… soccer is a disgrace to Japan
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:11
    Re: #6 Can't help it, Japan's a baseball country
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    Take a page from Tottenham, who still haven't fired De Zerbi lol
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    Even after a historic collapse, his wife's there to comfort him, so no damage done
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    It's a country that can't win in the knockout stage anyway
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:10
    No wonder he got cut loose in the Netherlands lol
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:14
    Nah, Itakura wasn't directly involved in all 16 goals conceded — he's innocent. If anything, he made way more than 4 or 5 fine saves/clearances. They're just pinning the blame on the Japanese guy because he's an easy foreign target
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:15
    Re: #22 You enjoy knowing pointless stuff like that? lolololol
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:17
    Re: #22 The Japanese guy on the other team is doing well, so I get why people want to bring it up
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:23
    Re: #22 What kind of situation has a center-back not involved in any goals conceded? Was he standing outside the pitch or something? lol
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:14
    Itakura — the shine keeps wearing off.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:14
    I want them to learn a thing or two from the women's national team
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:18
    Honestly, any team that signs Hashioka and Itakura is out of their mind
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:19
    The opponent that day was Mainz, led by Kaishu Sano — no way they were winning
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:19
    So Ryunosuke Sato and Uno only managed to transfer because their squads were weak?
    35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:19
    Hashioka's claim to fame is the goal he was involved in with Haaland
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:20
    Guess they just didn't have an eye for talent. Meanwhile the team that signed Sano — another Japanese player — clearly did
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:22
    Re: #36 Mainz sold both Okazaki and Muto for big money too. Though because of that, Sano's price tag has gotten absurdly high lol
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:22
    Well, all four of them were only decent-level players in the J.League too
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:15
    Re: #38 Come on, Machino and Itakura are at least the level top J.League clubs would go after
    48AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:33
    Re: #41 There are plenty of ways to not be involved in a goal. Have you never watched soccer?
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:39
    Re: #22Re: #48 It's a stretch to say the defensive leader wasn't involved in a single goal conceded. Being involved isn't just about directly challenging the ball carrier
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:34
    Well, none of them are regular starters even on the national team, so it's not that surprising
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:38
    > 'Not top-flight level' — that hits close to home, huh, Nibungamu (apparent nickname/self-reference, likely alluding to Japan's second division; exact meaning unclear)
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:40
    That's why Japan can't win at the World Cup
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:01
    Japanese players just don't have the physicality, and they don't have enough technique to make up for it either
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:08
    Re: #72 Right, they age fast too — knees fill up with fluid, and they whine about their upper arms and neck hurting. They're getting a bit too chubby these days

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Borussia Mönchengladbach currently has four Japan national team-caliber players at once — Ko Itakura, Daiki Hashioka, Shuto Machino, and Zento Uno — a rare concentration of Japanese talent at a single Bundesliga club. Despite this, the team opened the season with four straight losses and 16 goals conceded, prompting German media to single out and slam the back line by name. Where opinions split in the thread was over how much individual responsibility to place on Itakura: those defending him argued he had little direct involvement in the goals conceded, while critics countered that as the defensive leader, ‘not directly involved’ isn’t an excuse. It’s also worth noting — something not obvious from the article text alone — that Mainz, that day’s opponent, features Japan national team player Kaishu Sano, and the thread’s undercurrent draws a comparison between Japanese players whose transfer destinations turned out very differently.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread ‘‘Not top-flight level’ — Japanese quartet’s team mired in historic collapse with 4 straight opening losses, 16 goals conceded; back line marshaled by Japan national team defender is ‘not worthy of being called a defense’.’

  • Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games: South Korea’s Bus Never Showed, Practice Canceled — “Was It Deliberate?” Sparks Controversy

    Ahead of the men’s basketball final between Japan and South Korea at the Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games, the shuttle bus for the South Korean national team failed to show up with no explanation, forcing the team to cancel its final tune-up practice. South Korea’s sports channel SPOTV reported that this may have been deliberate sabotage to give host nation Japan — which had reached the final for the first time in 64 years — a boost, and the story has rippled through Japanese media. On 5channel threads, users traded claims about the operating company’s track record, along with reports that Thailand’s and India’s delegations had also suffered lodging and transport mishaps, leaving posters split over whether this was “deliberate discrimination” or simply “sloppy management.”

    Ahead of the Japan-South Korea clash in the men’s basketball final at the Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games (held on the 20th at IG Arena), the South Korean team’s bus failed to show up without any notice, forcing the cancellation of their final tune-up session — and the incident has caused a huge stir.

    An unthinkable accident struck just before the fateful Japan-South Korea match. South Korean broadcaster SPOTV reported: “Their opponent in the final is Japan, the ‘old rival’ they beat in the group stage. That day, the national team was scheduled to head to a different gymnasium in the morning for shooting drills to loosen up ahead of the final. But that practice was canceled. The reason: the bus never showed up. The vehicle arranged for sometime after 10 a.m. never appeared, with no explanation given, forcing the team to scrap the session.” According to the report, not only did the bus fail to arrive due to an organizing error, but the organizers never even gave notice, leaving the team with no way to arrange an alternative — and their crucial final tune-up was abruptly scrapped as a result.

    The broadcaster went on to denounce the incident: “Incidents and mishaps that defy common sense have piled up at the Nagoya Asian Games, but given that this bus issue disrupted practice right before the final against Japan, it’s impossible not to grow suspicious. After all, this marks the first time in a full 64 years that Japan’s basketball team has reached the final. That’s exactly why people suspect this was deliberate.” The report argued that organizers may have intentionally sabotaged South Korea’s practice in order to help host nation Japan capture gold.

    Source: tokyo-sports.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:44
    Japan's really going downhill fast, huh
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:47
    Re: #3
    Events like this that put it all out in the open really drive the point home.
    It's usually hard to see otherwise.
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:45
    Japan was supposed to be the country that stayed fair even on home turf.
    What an embarrassment.
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:45
    The moment you've created a situation where winning gold wouldn't even feel out of place next to the complaints, you've already lost.
    Feel bad for the Japanese athletes too.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:47
    Feel bad for South Korea's basketball team — they're real gentlemen about it.
    And they even bothered coming for exhibition matches.
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:47
    This is the latest face of Reiwa-era Japan.
    From "omotenashi" hospitality (Japan's famous hospitality slogan) to just leaving people hanging.
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:48
    What a shambles of a tournament.
    All we hear about is one blunder after another — mix-ups, oversights, mistakes.
    The whole organizing staff seems borderline incompetent.
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:49
    It's probably worse than Manila or Jakarta.
    Well, guess that's just how it is.
    20AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:49
    Apparently the number of participants suddenly jumped by 2,000 and things are chaos on the ground.
    Still, of all the countries to do this to, this one's a bad idea.
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:51
    Re: #4
    S-s-sloppy… (stumbling over the word "杜撰"/zusan, "shoddy," as if it's hard to get out)
    132AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:10
    Re: #28
    …forms the great duo with Li Bai. (a pun: the "杜" in 杜撰/"shoddy" is the same character as in Du Fu, who together with Li Bai forms China's legendary pair of Tang-era poets)
    42AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:54
    So which company's running this thing?
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:57
    Re: #42
    GL events is a general event-management company headquartered in Lyon, France, contracted for 63 billion yen to build and run the competition venues for the 2026 Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games and Asian Para Games.
    57AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:59
    Why does it keep happening to South Korea specifically?
    Soccer → drove the South Korean team to a baseball stadium
    Field hockey → played North Korea's national anthem for the South Korean team
    Basketball → cramped rooms for tall players, bus never came, practice canceled

    This is way too much.
    At this rate Japan's going to have to apologize forever.
    67AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:01
    Re: #57
    Harry's already dead.
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:59
    >Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games men's basketball final (20th, IG Arena)

    Go ahead and search the term "IG Arena."

    You'll find out what that 370 billion yen actually went toward.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:01
    Re: #58
    IG Arena's got nothing to do with this.
    That was just a rebuild due to an aging facility.
    64AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:00
    Does winning gold in basketball also get you out of military service?
    71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:01
    Re: #64
    Every Asian Games gold does.
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:01
    Somebody clearly wants to drag Japan's reputation through the mud.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:02
    Re: #66
    If it keeps happening this much, the truth's bound to slip out eventually.
    If there's really nothing behind it, then it's just a mistake, right?
    83AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:04
    Re: #1

    Thailand's team had no lodging and had to sleep rough on the lobby floor


    India's team waited 14 hours for their rooms to be ready


    India's team:
    "Our room wasn't ready"
    "There was no breakfast"
    "The team bus never came"
    "No nutrition food or fruit either"
    i.imgur.com/MGgsNwz.jpeg
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:05
    Media, do your job properly — this is what happens when you hand operations over to a foreign company.

    "The result of cutting Dentsu out is that the know-how wasn't passed down, and things are a mess on the ground."
    109AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:07
    Re: #91
    So Dentsu got cut out here.
    Wish they'd get cut out of MLB coverage too.
    All they ever show is Sasaki and Yamamoto, Dentsu's pet projects.
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:05
    Re: #1

    Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games: bus carrying South Korea's soccer team heads to a "baseball stadium"
    https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/32337718/


    Turns out there was also harassment involving the soccer team's bus being sent to a baseball stadium.
    117AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:08
    Re: #96
    I can only think this is being done on purpose to embarrass Japan.
    The governor didn't even push to host this, did they.
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:06
    Governor Omura: "Did I even ask for this?"
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:06
    Wait, operations are outsourced to a foreign company?
    114AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:08
    Re: #103
    Operations: France
    Broadcast footage: China
    The one footing the bill and hosting: Japan
    104AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:06
    Re: #1
    Japan's gotten to the point where even the regions can't properly run a tournament anymore lol
    118AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:08
    Re: #104
    Probably on the same level as that shoddy "Lake Biwa Three-City Simultaneous Fireworks Festival" that ended up getting canceled.
    125AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:09
    This is what happens when you outsource to a foreign company — the result of you all constantly bashing Dentsu.
    133AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:10
    Re: #125
    The fact that the only alternative to Dentsu is a foreign company is just pathetically incompetent, Japan…

    Background and key points of this story

    Organizational mishaps have been reported repeatedly at the Nagoya Asian Games, not just in this one incident. This bus problem involved South Korea’s national team, but posters in the thread also shared accounts of Thailand’s delegation spending a night in the lobby and India’s team waiting 14 hours for their rooms to be ready — leaving little basis to conclude South Korea alone was being targeted. Venue construction and operations are reportedly contracted out for 63 billion yen to GL events, a company headquartered in France, and some in the thread speculated that sidelining Dentsu, which had long handled this role, may be part of what’s causing the confusion. It’s worth noting that the “deliberate sabotage” theory stems from speculation in a report by South Korean outlet SPOTV, and the games’ organizing committee has not acknowledged any intent.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Aichi-Nagoya Asian Games] South Korea’s bus never showed up before the Japan-Korea basketball match… practice canceled, sparking uproar with claims of “sabotage” and “deliberate action”.”