Category: Society

  • “The Bear Came Right at My Car” — 1.5m Bear Rams Passenger Vehicle in Matsumoto, Nagano; Driver Unhurt

    On the night of the 13th, a bear roughly 1.5 meters long rammed into a moving passenger car on a prefectural road in Matsumoto City, Nagano Prefecture, and ended up sprawled across the hood. The driver, a man in his 30s, was uninjured. On 5channel’s Breaking News+ thread, the “1.5-meter body length” figure sparked debate — some argued that’s “about the size of an elementary schooler,” while others countered that “a bear’s length on all fours and its height when standing up are two different things.” The discussion also branched into concerns about a growing number of bears no longer fearing cars, and what drivers should do if one charges at them.

    9/14 (Mon) 4:58

    SBC Shin-etsu Broadcasting

    On the night of the 13th, a bear rammed into a passenger car on a prefectural road in Matsumoto City, Nagano Prefecture, damaging part of the vehicle.

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:21
    Bears are fine even after getting run over by a truck
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1895940628263157762/pu/vid/avc1/476×350/k8JLiSP4eZ94t9W2.mp4
    12AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:23
    Re: #7
    A bear attacking a car
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1784859059931295744/pu/vid/avc1/1280×720/WXZfsFxbKucG2QtE.mp4
    21AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:28
    Re: #7
    Bear vs. Self-Defense Force soldier
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1405934308120924161/pu/vid/1280×720/7h16oeWDVoLXOd_1.mp4
    23AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:29
    Re: #7
    Bear startled by a human voice
    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1297900645861728261/pu/vid/720×720/TD-HTLVaf7cNNyXX.mp4
    11AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:22
    1.5m? That's tiny, basically elementary-school-kid size lol
    14AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:23
    Re: #11
    You don't even know what 'body length' means, do you?
    18AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:26
    At 1.5m it's probably around 100kg. I'm 155cm and 110kg myself — I bet I'm stronger.
    178AnonymousSep 14, 2026 13:21
    Re: #18
    Sure, if you could keep running at 40km/h and had a skeleton and hide as tough as a bear's, it'd be a fair fight.
    36AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:39
    Weird that there are no bears in Kyushu.
    181AnonymousSep 14, 2026 13:34
    Re: #36
    Maybe they've quietly figured out it's a 'land of savages' already lol (a joking nickname for Kyushu, known for its rough reputation)
    37AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:39
    It was probably just a cub playfully bumping into it, people are overreacting.
    41AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:44
    Re: #37
    This was a full-grown adult male (around 100kg).
    42AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:46
    Know your place, bear… feel the power of my Alphard. (Toyota's flagship minivan)
    55AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:59
    Re: #42
    To a tiny 1.5m bear, an Alphard probably looks like a black rhino. A puny car like a Jimny gets no respect and invites an attack, but with an Alphard the bear would probably get scared and run off.
    150AnonymousSep 14, 2026 12:05
    Re: #42
    The power of financing it on a residual-value car loan lol
    53AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:58
    1.5m in human terms is like someone 150cm tall — basically elementary school size, right? A grown man could beat an Asian black bear that size if he went all out to kill it. A brown bear's too big to handle, but isn't it pathetic to be scared of a bear this small? Maybe it feels scary if you've never done any martial arts, but if you do karate, a bear like this is just a chance to make a name for yourself.
    61AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:04
    Re: #53
    A four-legged animal's 'body length' is like a human's head-plus-torso length. Once it stands up, it easily tops 2 meters.
    65AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:06
    Apparently when a bear eats a human corpse, the large intestine is often left behind — probably because it's full of waste. Leftover bits like the legs, arms, and buttocks get lightly buried in the dirt as stored food, aged into meat it comes back to devour (゚Д゚)yum~.
    The head is often left mostly intact too, but some Asian black bears skillfully peel away just the skull to neatly devour only the brain and eyeballs (゚Д゚)yum~.
    71AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:11
    Re: #65
    Nice bears would never do that! No offense meant!!
    80AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:14
    Did the airbag deploy?
    88AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:17
    Re: #80
    If it deployed, the car's undrivable now. JAF (Japan's roadside assistance) probably won't come out this far, so you'd have to call a private towing service. Wonder if you can even find one by searching online.
    94AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:26
    Re: #88 In another thread they said a 'Tokuryu' (a loosely organized crime crew recruited online for one-off jobs) showed up and charged a 300,000-yen 'inconvenience fee.'
    85AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:16
    Matsumoto City, Nagano — what a big city.
    92AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:25
    Re: #85
    Kamikochi and the east side of Mt. Yari are technically part of Matsumoto City too.
    101AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:34
    Re: #85
    This was originally a mountain village near Kiso that got absorbed into Matsumoto City through municipal mergers — not remotely urban… Because of all these mergers, Matsumoto City's outline looks pretty distorted on a map.
    106AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:42
    A bear's 150cm 'body length' is measured from butt to head while standing on all fours. Once it stands up, its legs add to the height, so it tops 2m.

    You're 180cm tall, so you think you'd win because you're 'smaller' than it? Subtract your leg and thigh length and your 'body length' is only about 100cm — and you're skinnier than the bear too. You'd just get eaten.
    111AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:45
    Re: #106
    The scary thing about bears: they can stand up on two legs like a human and claw at your head, which is way up high. Just hearing about it is terrifying.
    107AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:42
    Somebody go get Willie Williams! (a bear-fighting wrestler character from the manga Kinnikuman)
    118AnonymousSep 14, 2026 11:05
    Re: #107 Totally showing your age there. That guy used to trash cars too, apparently (source: a Shonen Magazine cover feature)
    113AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:48
    So even inside a car, it still sizes you up as 'this is a weak animal' and disrespects you, huh.
    189AnonymousSep 14, 2026 13:59
    Re: #113
    More like there are more and more bears that just aren't scared of cars anymore. In Akita there was a mother bear and cub crunching on fallen walnuts right next to a patrol car — siren blaring, lights flashing — completely unbothered.
    141AnonymousSep 14, 2026 11:56
    In a situation like this, is it a crime to just floor it and ram straight into the bear? With a person, you slam the brakes, but if a bear comes at you, full acceleration — is that not allowed? I'd like to ask the police.
    176AnonymousSep 14, 2026 13:19
    Re: #141 You wouldn't deliberately run over a monkey, a masked palm civet, or a raccoon dog, right? I doubt anyone deliberately rams a deer or a bear either. Though on Tokyo roads, plenty of cats do end up dead.
    191AnonymousSep 14, 2026 14:10
    Re: #141
    If you rammed it full force, chances are your car would be the one that ends up undrivable while the bear walks away fine. And if it's angry now 😡, you'd be stuck unable to get out of the car, scared out of your mind.
    197AnonymousSep 14, 2026 14:41
    A bear's 'body length' is measured from the tip of the nose to the rear, not including leg length — so when it stands up, it looks like this ↓
    https://www.env.go.jp/nature/nationalparks/about/bear/images/bear_about_picture.png
    203AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:06
    Re: #197
    And it's fast on top of that — there's no way you're winning that fight, hahaha

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    As Ministry of the Environment materials note, a bear’s “body length” refers to the distance from nose tip to tail while standing on all fours — a different measurement standard than its height when reared up on its hind legs. The thread reaction that “1.5m is elementary-school-kid size” stems from not accounting for this difference in measurement standards. Meanwhile, there are indications that more bears are behaving without fear of people or vehicles in recent years, which matches a trend the Ministry of the Environment and local governments have repeatedly warned about. The thread reached no consensus on the legal treatment of intentionally hitting an animal while driving — this touches on issues involving the Road Traffic Act and the Act on Welfare and Management of Animals, and there’s no simple answer. It’s also worth noting that Matsumoto City absorbed a large amount of mountainous terrain through municipal mergers, so there’s a gap between its “big city” image and its actual geography.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “[(・(ェ)・)] “The Bear Came Right at My Car” — 1.5m Bear Rams Vehicle, Sprawls Across Hood, 30-Something Male Driver Uninjured, Nagano.”

  • Hybrids Now Dominate New Cars — 5ch Debates Why Pure Gas Models Are Disappearing

    An article noting that most new cars now come as hybrids (HVs), with pure gasoline-only models on the decline, became a hot topic on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. The thread ranged widely: worries about HV battery degradation and replacement costs, the cost-benefit math of whether fuel savings actually offset the higher sticker price, and pushback that gas engines are still genuinely needed in rural settings like farm equipment and mini trucks. The thread also cited data showing the average age of EVs in China is just 1.8 years, highlighting how differently cars are used there compared to Japan.

    Published 9/13 (Sun), 8:30 AM

    Toyo Keizai Online

    Look at the powertrains in today’s new cars and hybrids (HEVs) dominate overwhelmingly. A growing number of models don’t even offer a pure gasoline engine option anymore.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:31
    Even if regulations tighten further, just running HV engines on LPG would basically solve the environmental problem, wouldn't it?
    Besides, pull the engine out of an HV and you're basically already looking at an EV.
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:01
    Re: #4
    Isn't that just e-Power? Or does it apply across the board?
    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:33
    It's a hybrid of muscle power and a motor, baby.
    71AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:33
    Re: #6
    My ride's a pure gas engine car — manual transmission, two-seater even… (^o^)/ boom.
    8AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:36
    With the Middle East as unstable as it is, who even needs pure gas cars anymore.
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:44
    Re: #8
    Go say that to a farmer's face. Kei trucks, tractors, farm equipment, the whole lot.
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:38
    What about diesel cars?
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:48
    Re: #10
    Not bad, but automakers keep bailing on it. Volvo's diesel wasn't bad either, but it's gone from the lineup now.
    28AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:57
    Re: #10
    Sounds like a truck. That's embarrassing.
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:51
    Japanese automakers must be sick of developing hybrids by now.
    47AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:08
    Re: #18
    That's just what's convenient for the automakers. Next they'll probably say 'we made it in time for the 22nd century' (a riff on the Prius's old ad slogan, 'we made it in time for the 21st century').
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:51
    Motor drive is so smooth I can't go back to a car with just an internal combustion engine.
    94AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:57
    Re: #20
    Sounds like something a Nissan fan would say.
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 19:58
    Gas cars are so noisy on startup. Hate that 'ka-ka-ka' sound the starter motor makes.
    49AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:09
    Re: #29
    I've got that turned off, though.
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:11
    Re: #29
    Isn't that just a worn belt squealing, not the starter?
    58AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:17
    No idea about company cars, but for home use I'd think gas cars are more cost-effective — battery replacement costs way too much.
    73AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:35
    Re: #58
    How many people even keep a car long enough to need a battery replacement?
    80AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:43
    Re: #58
    True. People tend to overlook the auxiliary battery too.
    167AnonymousSep 13, 2026 23:09
    Re: #58
    If you don't drive much — mostly around town with the occasional trip or long drive — I think a pure gas car pays off better than an HV. Newer gas cars get something like 20km/L (~47 mpg) on the highway these days.
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:20
    Drove a hybrid as a loaner once — hated how the engine feels like it's constantly kicking on.
    62AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:23
    Re: #59
    It kicks on way less than a regular gas car does…
    105AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:08
    Re: #59
    Do you even drive, or do you just ride trains? lol
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:44
    Hybrid batteries are consumables too and need replacing eventually, right?
    So then I start thinking, why not just get an EV?
    Realistically
    Realistically it comes down to gas or EV — a hybrid is a genuinely awkward middle ground.
    If you're planning to trade it in aggressively every 1-2 years before the battery degrades, though, a hybrid might make sense.
    107AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:11
    Re: #82
    It'll easily last 10 years — maybe down to 70% capacity, but still going. If anything, EVs are the ones that are done for in 3 years lol.
    160AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:57
    Re: #82
    Assuming you'll aggressively trade it in is the wrong premise to begin with.
    98AnonymousSep 13, 2026 20:59
    There are all kinds of hybrids out there — why go out of your way to drive a Prius specifically?
    100AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:00
    Re: #98
    These days the Aqua is the mainstream pick.
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:12
    Re: #98
    The Corolla series is what actually carries on the old Prius's role now — people who saw the Prius as just a practical, cost-effective tool have already switched over to that. But older folks who don't like the name 'Corolla' still insist on the 'Prius' name and keep driving one.
    103AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:06
    How many people actually break even on the hybrid price premium through fuel savings, I wonder?
    115AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:22
    Re: #103
    What matters is cushioning the blow if a disaster or Middle East crisis turns you into a 'gasoline refugee.' I'm not really counting on breaking even on the price difference.
    118AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:33
    Re: #103
    If we're talking cost-effectiveness, a compact gas car is really the only choice.
    154AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:55
    Re: #103
    Pretty much nobody, honestly.
    104AnonymousSep 13, 2026 21:06
    So many people think Suzuki's 'mild hybrid' (lol) is a real hybrid — it's not even funny.
    155AnonymousSep 13, 2026 22:55
    Re: #104
    Most European 'hybrids' (wink wink) are basically that too.
    177AnonymousSep 13, 2026 23:27
    Re: #104
    Which one's actually more of a 'real' hybrid, that or e-Power, I wonder.
    180AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:08
    If you're not paying attention you'll blow past 100,000 km before you know it, and then a battery replacement costing hundreds of thousands of yen wipes out all the gas money you'd saved.
    Feels like you'd have to become one of those users kept on a leash by the automaker, trading in every 3 years like it's a subscription.
    184AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:22
    Re: #180
    Drove my Prius 210,000 km and traded it in for 30,000 yen — never once replaced the battery.
    190AnonymousSep 14, 2026 00:56
    Re: #180
    Apparently in China the average time before people trade in an EV is now just 1.8 years.
    > A report by the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers (CAAM) and Hejun Consulting found that the average age of electric vehicles (EVs) in China is 1.8 years — far below the 8.2 years for gasoline cars.
    > This was reported by the Chinese newspaper 21st Century Business Herald.
    >
    > "Vehicle age" refers to years elapsed since new registration. According to the report, that's shorter than the span many people keep using the same phone.
    >
    > According to the newspaper, rapid advances in batteries, software, and semiconductor chips — along with falling used-car prices — may be behind this accelerating trend toward early replacement.
    > An EV's average resale value three years after purchase is reportedly 43.35% of the original price, lower than for conventional cars.
    ○ China's EVs average just 1.8 years old, under a quarter the age of gas cars — local paper reports, Bloomberg, 7/13

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Behind hybrids (HVs) becoming the mainstream choice for new cars lies not just tightening fuel-economy regulations and a worldwide push toward electrification, but also automakers trimming their pure-gasoline lineups to hold down development costs. Opinions in the thread split mainly over whether an HV’s price premium actually pays for itself in fuel savings, with some arguing that the less you drive, the more a gas car makes sense. There was also the point that Suzuki-style ‘mild hybrids’ work on a different mechanism than a full hybrid capable of running on motor power alone, yet both get lumped together under the same ‘hybrid’ label — a common source of confusion. The thread also cited a report that the average age of EVs in China is just 1.8 years, but that reflects a trend toward early replacement driven by rapid battery and software advances and falling used-car prices — a very different context from how cars are actually used in Japan.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Automobiles] New cars are all hybrids now… why are pure gasoline cars being discontinued one after another? The “2030 problem” and automakers’ thinking behind it.”

  • Touch-Panel Ordering? Welcome. QR Codes and LINE Ordering? Not So Much — 5ch: “This Has No Sense of Boundaries”

    Touch-panel ordering is spreading rapidly across restaurants in Japan, and opinions clashed over it on 5ch’s Breaking News+ board. According to the article, the system — in which customers order directly from a tabletop terminal that sends the order straight to the kitchen — has become common at izakayas and family restaurants in particular. On the thread, most posters welcomed the tabletop touch panels themselves, but there was persistent pushback against QR-code and LINE-based ordering that requires using one’s own smartphone, with complaints like “you walk in and immediately get pressured into adding the place as a LINE friend.” Opinions also split over hygiene, screen readability, and whether the systems are really just about cutting labor costs, exposing a gap between what works for restaurants and what actually feels convenient for customers.

    Published 9/13 (Sun) 10:00

    Yomiuri TV

    Touch-panel ordering systems have been spreading rapidly through the restaurant industry lately. Adopted across a wide range of establishments, from izakayas to family restaurants, the system lets customers pick what they want to eat from a dedicated terminal at their table and send the order straight to the kitchen. While it offers the convenience of ordering without having to call over staff, it has also stirred up mixed reactions from the public.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:23
    Touch panels? Welcome.
    Ordering on my own phone? Eh, not really.
    LINE ordering? I'm not going.
    163AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:50
    Re: #5
    Right?
    Getting pressured into adding them as a friend the second you walk in — total boundary fail, it's annoying.
    11AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:25
    It's fine for now, but it'll be scary once I'm older and my eyesight starts going.
    14AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:25
    Would be nice if they just put up a sign out front explaining how to order.

    People who don't like it could just see the sign and walk on by.
    107AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:42
    Re: #14
    One time I walked in, found out it was LINE-only ordering, and just walked straight back out.
    184AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:52
    Re: #14
    They should just put up a bold sign that says "This restaurant uses smartphone ordering."
    People who are fine with that will still come in, and people who aren't just won't.
    What bugs me is letting people in without telling them first.
    Some people will say "then just walk right back out" (said with a smug little smirk), but that's a waste of time and mildly stressful.
    15AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:25
    Touch panels are fine. But "scan this QR code with your phone to order" makes me think I'm never coming back.
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:27
    Re: #15
    That's such a hassle.
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:34
    Re: #15
    Yeah, it just feels like a pain, mentally.
    31AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:28
    Re: #1
    Which part specifically?
    "Even when I select alcohol, the drink I actually want doesn't come up right away. There's a 'straight from the brewery' option, but I can't find my way to it. I keep wondering what I'm supposed to tap to get there."

    ??
    103AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:41
    Re: #31
    Yeah, this one's confusing.
    I think what she means is: she wants the "straight from the brewery" drink advertised on the banners and posters, but when she operates the tablet, she can't get from the alcohol category to that specific item — it just doesn't show up.
    34AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:29
    If they want people to order on a touch panel, they should install a huge one — like 32 inches.
    69AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:35
    Re: #34
    McDonald's touch panels are huge, but they don't fit in your field of view, so they're actually hard to read.
    And depending on the location, other customers' lines or barriers get in the way, so you can't even step back from the panel.
    207AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:55
    Re: #34
    Places like Matsuya have screens that run tall too, and I've missed the d-points offer shown at the top several times without noticing.
    I'm a woman, 160cm tall, and it's positioned somewhere I have to look up at.
    35AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:30
    Aren't touch panels unsanitary though lol
    What if some malicious terrorist smears germs on it?
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:30
    Re: #35
    Wouldn't that be just as true of a paper menu?
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:30
    It's not that I hate it, but when I go with a group, it's a little sad that you can't spread out a menu together and go "ooh that looks good, that looks good" the way you used to.
    52AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:32
    Re: #36
    If the whole point for you is having a lively time with the group, I think you'll have fun no matter what the ordering system is.
    125AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:44
    I mean, there's no way ordinary neighborhood places like izakayas and diners can afford to hire a bunch of clueless part-timers just to take orders like they did before COVID — not at today's minimum wage.
    If you don't like it, go to a high-end restaurant instead.
    You pre-yutori old farts (i.e., the generation older than the "yutori" kids raised under Japan's relaxed-education policy) should own up to the fact that you burned through the good times like idiots.
    142AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:47
    Re: #125
    Seriously, exactly that.
    Led by the people who were in their 30s-40s at the peak of the bubble economy, they're eating up young people's futures lol
    154AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:48
    Re: #125
    Ah, it's that whole labor-cost-vs-capital-investment tradeoff thing.
    Like Hidakaya bringing in touch panels plus serving robots — if that ends up more cost-effective than hiring one more person, I think that's fine.
    If my workplace doesn't have the money to hire people either, I wish they'd at least install a speaker system or PA announcements to call people over.
    149AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:48
    If you think touch panels are dirty, well, paper menus and tables are dirty too, so you might as well just give up eating out.
    173AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:51
    Re: #149
    Even when the table's been wiped down, you still run into touch panels that are sticky here and there.
    226AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:56
    Re: #149
    True enough.
    You can wipe down a touch panel, but I've never once seen anyone clean a paper menu lol
    181AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:52
    I've never actually been to a restaurant where you're required to order using your own phone.
    195AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:53
    Re: #181
    It'd be embarrassing if it weren't an iPhone.
    With Android you've got the staff and other customers watching.
    203AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:54
    Re: #195
    Never thought about that, but I guess some people do worry about it.
    Sounds like a fragile mindset.
    227AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:56
    Re: #195
    Oh really, so an old iPhone with a cracked screen is fine then?
    201AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:54
    The anti-QR crowd seems more worried about the hassle than any security risk, but is it really that much of a bother? You just open the camera.
    240AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:58
    Re: #201
    Probably worried about their data plan lol
    253AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:00
    Re: #201
    It's a pain to stare at your phone screen and order when you're drunk.
    Then again, thanks to that I end up skipping one more dish or one more drink, so it's good for my wallet lol
    205AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:55
    Re: #196
    And my own phone's been in the bathroom with me, so it's dirty anyway.
    219AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:56
    Re: #205
    And some places don't even have Wi-Fi — total disrespect.
    234AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:57
    Re: #219
    It doesn't actually use as much data as you'd think, so I say don't sweat it.
    If you're worrying about that stuff while eating out, you're not going to be popular with women.
    242AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:58
    Re: #234
    Rough if you've already hit your data cap though.
    266AnonymousSep 13, 2026 18:01
    Re: #234
    Huh?
    So the tap-tap crowd (people glued to their phones) tries to one-up people over something like that? lol
    What a lightweight.
    212AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:55
    Re: #181
    It's common at izakayas.

    Some places have even switched from tablets to QR codes.
    224AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:56
    Re: #212
    Ah, so it's common at izakayas. I haven't been to one in about 10 years, so no wonder I didn't know.
    235AnonymousSep 13, 2026 17:57
    Re: #212
    There's a place that switched back from QR codes to staff taking orders.

    Apparently once customers got drunk, entering QR codes became too much of a hassle and sales dropped — turns out a staff member asking "another round?" really does matter.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The spread of touch-panel ordering is rooted in the reality restaurants now face: with the minimum wage rising and labor shortages worsening, they can no longer staff as many floor workers as before. As the thread notes, some chains, like Hidakaya, pair reduced staffing with serving robots, while others, like Matsuya, run into practical issues — such as shorter customers struggling to see items displayed near the top of the touch panel. The main point of contention splits roughly along these lines: tabletop touch panels tend to be readily accepted, while QR-code and LINE-based ordering that requires customers to use their own phones draws strong psychological and practical resistance — complaints about being pressured into adding a LINE friend, or worries over data usage — leaving opinion divided. There’s also pushback against the claim that touch panels are unsanitary, with some arguing paper menus are actually cleaned far less often, revealing a gap between the perception and the reality of hygiene. And as with the example of a restaurant that switched back from QR-code ordering to staff taking orders, changes in ordering method can affect average spend per customer, making this more than just a matter of personal preference — it ties into real business decisions.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[For and Against] Is the Spread of “Touch-Panel Ordering” at Restaurants a Good Thing or Not? The Real Feelings of Stores and Customers.”

  • Unlawful Welfare Benefit Cuts Ruled Illegal by Supreme Court — Fears Payments Won’t Reach 1.36 Million Households

    After the Supreme Court ruled that past cuts to welfare benefit standards were “illegal,” the government plans to set aside 105.5 billion yen in this fiscal year’s supplementary budget for additional payments. The payments are expected to cover roughly 3 million households in total, with a payout of around 200 billion yen overall — but there are concerns that 1.36 million households whose addresses or circumstances have since changed may never see the money. On 5ch, discussion focused less on the additional payments themselves and more on the welfare system as a whole: its merits, the rising number of elderly recipients, and comparisons with minimum wage, with opinions sharply divided.

    Roughly 3 million households are eligible for the additional payments — about 136 of them reportedly already “self-sufficient”?

    As mentioned above, following the government’s court defeat, 105.5 billion yen has been written into this fiscal year’s supplementary budget to make additional payments to past welfare recipients, with the total expected to reach roughly 200 billion yen.

    However, the objective basis for these figures has never been disclosed — in practice, only the administrative paperwork is being pushed forward.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:14
    A broken system: the people who actually deserve it can't get it, while the ones who absolutely shouldn't get it stay on it for life
    76AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:25
    Re: #4
    Is there really anyone who "deserves" it? There's plenty of work out there if you're not picky. And if you're too sick to work, there's disability pension.
    77AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:27
    Re: #76
    The take-up rate is supposedly only 20%, so there are definitely people who qualify but aren't claiming it.
    79AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:28
    Re: #76
    Disability pension amounts differ by grade, you know. I'm Employees' Pension disability grade 3, and I only get 570,000 yen a year.
    10AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:19
    Like, what if welfare was capped at 5 years max, and if you still can't get back to work and can't support yourself after that, you'd just be euthanized? Is that really out of the question?
    17AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:26
    Re: #10
    So if you became disabled and couldn't find work anywhere, nobody would hire you, you'd obviously accept a death sentence after 5 years too, right? Being disabled doesn't guarantee you'll get disability pension, and even if you do, it might only be a tiny amount — you good with that? Don't you dare change your tune later.
    38AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:41
    Re: #10
    I think that's actually a good idea. Welfare was supposed to be premised on short-term self-sufficiency to begin with.
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:27
    Put a time limit on "namapo" (slang for welfare/seikatsu hogo) — if you can't become self-sufficient by the deadline, off to communal living.
    28AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:33
    Re: #18
    What a shortsighted idiot. Most welfare recipients are elderly. So can you actually find them jobs that pay enough to live on? No employer thinks they can profitably work an 80-year-old full-time. And communal living would need staff or a team to set the rules and track everyone's situation — that costs tax money too. No objections to that?
    136AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:27
    Re: #18
    Do you know the per-person cost of running a prison? Apparently it's over 200,000 yen a month per inmate — facility construction, upkeep, staffing, housing, healthcare, and everything else. So forget civil liberties for a second, that kind of proposal isn't even economically rational.
    156AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:48
    Re: #18
    This'll do. It's supposed to be a minimum standard of living, after all.
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:29
    Honestly, I'd love to be on welfare too. Rent covered, free medical care, free NHK fees, and about 60,000 yen a month in living money — I wouldn't have a single complaint beyond that.
    26AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:32
    Re: #21
    There is a partial support system covering just rent.

    Though it means finally leaving that unhinged parent you've been living with forever and becoming independent lol
    27AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:32
    Re: #21
    Exempt from resident tax and water bills. Free public baths. Free entry to Tokyo metropolitan facilities like museums. Free Toei subway and Toei buses.

    By the way, you can get from central Tokyo all the way to a hot spring using nothing but Toei transit.
    31AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:36
    Re: #21
    If you meet the eligibility requirements, go ahead and claim it. Just don't do it while you're sitting on money.
    30AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:35
    Re: #28
    Welfare really is the ultimate move for the elderly. It's so good you could almost call anyone who diligently saved for retirement since they were young a fool.
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:43
    Re: #30
    If a lot of citizens started thinking that cynically, the whole system would collapse in no time, though.
    47AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:48
    Re: #41
    Collapsing it is the whole point.
    144AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:35
    Re: #41
    How big is the total national budget anyway? What's the domestic net worth versus the net external assets? There's a lot more going on than that.
    48AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:48
    You actually get more from welfare than from pension. An effective take-home of 200,000 yen a month — kind of enviable.
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:55
    Re: #48
    Pension was never a system designed so you could "definitely live on the pension alone" lol
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 13:57
    Re: #48
    Envious of living on about 70,000 yen a month? Seriously? lol
    75AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:25
    Re: #48
    If you can't get by on National Pension alone, you can just apply for welfare, you know.
    84AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:31
    92AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:44
    Welfare payments are way too generous compared to minimum-wage take-home pay after deductions. Push minimum wage up too far and small and mid-size businesses go under, so the only real option is to cut welfare. Basically turn it into a universal basic income — or just restrict what welfare money can buy, using My Number card payments to limit purchases.
    97AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:47
    Re: #92
    Too generous? How much do you actually think it is?
    98AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:49
    Re: #92
    Work full-time at minimum wage, get hit with taxes and social insurance, and your take-home still never falls below welfare payments. And full-time employees get paid above minimum wage to begin with anyway.
    121AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:11
    Re: #92
    The Minimum Wage Act literally requires consistency with welfare policy. If welfare payments are adjusting to inflation and minimum wage isn't keeping up at all, take it up with the government, or tell your company to raise your pay lol


    Minimum Wage Act

    (Principle of Regional Minimum Wages)
    Article 9: To guarantee a minimum wage floor for low-paid workers, regional minimum wages (meaning the minimum wage set for each region) shall be determined for every region across the country without exception.

    2. Regional minimum wages shall be set with consideration for workers' cost of living and wages in the region, as well as the ordinary wage-paying capacity of local businesses.

    3. In considering workers' cost of living under the preceding paragraph, due regard shall be given to maintaining consistency with welfare policy, so that workers can maintain a healthy and culturally minimal standard of living.
    99AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:49
    When you have a job, you're tied down 8 hours a day and lose your freedom. If you can't work, fine, don't work — but I'd like welfare recipients ("namapo") to be tied down for at least 6 hours a day too.
    101AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:51
    Re: #99
    Just have them pull weeds or pick up litter or something.
    111AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:57
    Re: #99
    Restraining people means you become responsible for whatever happens to them during that time, you get that? Even for a natural disaster, if you get sued afterward, that's extra legal costs and time. Even ordinary company employees are told by their employer to leave promptly once work is done, because if someone gets hurt on the premises it becomes a workers' comp case, and even a sudden illness creates a duty to help. You really don't understand how society works.
    146AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:36
    Re: #99
    That would be false imprisonment. Do you even know what you're talking about?
    103AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:52
    Re: #100
    Not really following, but…
    105AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:53
    Re: #103
    Full-time employees are also covered by their local minimum wage.
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:56
    Re: #105
    What I meant was that full-timers earn more than minimum wage on an hourly basis. Is there really a company where full-time employees only get paid minimum wage?
    112AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:57
    Re: #104
    That government waste you're talking about IS welfare ("namapo"), isn't it? lol
    113AnonymousSep 13, 2026 14:59
    Re: #109
    Plenty of full-time employees don't even know they're covered by minimum wage law.

    Re: #112

    128AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:20
    A guy who's been on welfare for over 20 years ("gokipo" — mocking slang blending "cockroach" with "namapo") was complaining that he's about to be hospitalized and it's a financial struggle. I'd have thought hospitalization is free under medical assistance — are there cases where you still have to pay out of pocket?
    131AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:22
    Re: #128
    If every member of a household is hospitalized, housing assistance gets cut for that period. But rent is still rent whether you're hospitalized or not, so that's a strange rule.
    149AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:39
    Re: #131-132
    Since monthly rent still applies even while hospitalized, I guess it is rough in that sense…

    So you can't really say medical assistance just cancels out livelihood assistance plus housing assistance. Taxpaying households spend about 400,000 yen per person a year on medical costs, versus over 1,000,000 yen per "head" (using the animal counter "匹" — a dehumanizing dig at recipients) for welfare households — how you weigh that is the real question. It's the demographic that can't survive without being pumped full of hospital visits and medication…
    154AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:46
    Re: #149
    Well, 60% of welfare recipients are dealing with illness, injury, or disability. And 55% of current recipients are elderly, and even the healthy ones among them are basically pre-illness cases. For old folks it's not about a cure, just ongoing symptom management, so treatment drags on for years.


    https://prcdn.freetls.fastly.net/release_image/116196/67/116196-67-ed6dbc3845a1b4039f86c709e1b0da58-1200×742.png?width=1950&height=1350&quality=85%2C75&format=jpeg&auto=webp&fit=bounds&bg-color=fff
    159AnonymousSep 13, 2026 15:57
    Re: #17
    And protecting everyone like that no matter what is exactly how you end up here. If you're going to say "protect them even more," you'd better be on board with raising taxes too, right?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    This additional payment is an after-the-fact remedy following the Supreme Court’s ruling that the procedure used to cut livelihood assistance standards since 2013 was illegal, in a class-action suit over those cuts. The payments are said to cover roughly 3 million households in total, but among the original recipients, 1.36 million households can no longer be tracked or confirmed as eligible — due to relocation, death, or having left the welfare system since then — meaning whether the money actually reaches them depends on local government records. What divided the thread wasn’t the payment itself so much as the welfare system as a whole: the rising share of elderly recipients, comparisons with minimum wage, moral-hazard arguments, and on the flip side, criticism of practical shortcomings in medical and housing assistance. Meanwhile, the article itself also notes that the funding rationale behind the additional payment figures has never been clearly explained, so their appropriateness is still an open question.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Unlawful ‘welfare benefit cuts’ ruled ‘illegal’ by the Supreme Court → government to pay an additional ¥105.5 billion in compensation, but 1.36 million households fear they’ll ‘get not one yen’.”

  • 40-Year-Old Man Earning ¥5.5 Million a Year Applies to 100 Women a Month for Arranged Dates — Still Can’t Land a Single Match

    An article describing a case handled by a matchmaking agency counselor — a 40-year-old male member earning ¥5.5 million a year who applies for arranged meetings (o-miai) with 100 younger women every month, yet hasn’t landed a single match — went viral on 5channel’s News Speed+ board. Matchmaking-agency o-miai are said to easily screen candidates out based on profile income and education, and the more a man insists on a younger partner, the higher the income bar he’s expected to clear. The thread split between posters pointing out the mismatch between people’s conditions and real-world supply and demand, and others debating whether income or communication skill really determines how easy it is to get married.

    Published 9/12 (Sat) 7:15 PM

    President Online

    What traits do men who go to matchmaking agencies but never manage to get married have in common? Yuko Oya, a counselor at the matchmaking agency she runs, says: “Men who insist on marrying a woman younger than themselves often end up missing their chance to marry. I have one member — a 40-year-old man earning ¥5.5 million a year — who applies for arranged meetings with 100 younger women every month, but still hasn’t managed to set up a single one.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 13, 2026 09:47
    11AnonymousSep 13, 2026 09:50
    Next, how about analyzing "baba-attack" (older women hitting on younger men) for once?
    That's a real phenomenon too, but you won't touch it because it'd cause an uproar, right?
    This is just sexist, ageist bullying dressed up as picking on middle-aged men.
    23AnonymousSep 13, 2026 09:53
    Re: #11
    Sure, it exists, but "oji-attack" (older men hitting on younger women) is way more common, so no analysis needed.
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:03
    Re: #23
    It's overwhelmingly men, because for most guys the wall of "I don't want young people to think I'm gross" is lower than their willingness to shrug and say "whatever, I've still got a young body."
    Women, no matter their age, mostly don't want men to treat them like an old hag — they want to be treated like a princess — so they don't go after younger men (or can't) the way men go after younger women.
    95AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:11
    If he's good-looking, ¥5.5 million a year at 40 isn't even that bad.
    Is this article even true?
    Something's gone wrong with these matchmaking agencies.
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:14
    Re: #95
    By 40 you're already halfway done, and earning ¥5.5 million at that age screams "high school grad."
    Without assets, going for someone younger is a no-go — early 30s is off the table.
    113AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:14
    Re: #95
    Do you really think a young girl looks at a 40-year-old geezer and thinks "handsome"?
    127AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:19
    Re: #95
    For starters, if he's good-looking and still single at 40, there's probably a catch. If neither wants kids, husband-at-¥5.5-million-plus-wife-part-time isn't bad, but if the wife can't work part-time, there's no upside to marrying for either side (especially her).
    If she's 39 or under, there's still a shot she wants kids, in which case even with dual income, ¥5.5 million from the husband is thin.
    121AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:17
    Well, every time news like this comes out showing women sizing men up by money,
    I figure it just makes men lose the will to get married.
    124AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:18
    Re: #121
    "Will to get married" when you don't even have a partner?
    What, you gonna marry an anime character?
    125AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:18
    Re: #121
    But in reality it's all about money.
    It's what decides whether the marriage goes cold or not.
    129AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:19
    Re: #121
    Guys who go around saying "women be like…" never get married anyway, so this doesn't even apply to you.
    138AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:21
    I make ¥10 million a year and have ¥130 million in financial assets, but I'm 55, divorced, living apart from my one kid, so I've given up on remarrying.
    I figure in about 20 years I'll die alone in some rundown house somewhere.
    145AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:22
    Re: #138
    Isn't your income way too low for that much in assets?
    Bet it's inherited from your parents.

    You're not getting married on that.
    181AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:33
    Re: #138
    Well, no woman wants to marry grandpa.
    185AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:34
    Re: #138
    Even at ¥10 million a year, the real question is: how many more years can you actually keep that up?
    161AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:28
    Even at 40 with ¥5.5 million, if you're proactive and good with words you can get married with room to spare.
    But if you're so bad at talking and so short on connections that you need a matchmaking agency just to find someone, it's not happening.
    169AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:30
    Re: #161
    Arranged meetings run on stats first, communication skills second.
    If your stats are low, you don't even get in the ring.
    190AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:34
    Re: #169
    Marriage comes down to being proactive.
    Between a guy on ¥5 million who's smooth-talking and a guy on ¥10 million who's terrible at conversation, the former has a higher marriage rate.
    200AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:36
    Re: #190
    This is about arranged meetings, though.
    Also, guys who are all talk get avoided when it comes to actual marriage.
    212AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:38
    Re: #190
    Matchmaking agencies run on "catalog stats" first.
    At 40 with a ¥5 million income, you're getting cut at the document screening.
    242AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:43
    252AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:44
    What's a 40-year-old woman earning ¥5.5 million supposed to do?
    270AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #252
    Marry a guy around 45.
    272AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #252
    Just pick from guys her own age to a bit older with similar income.
    295AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:52
    Re: #252
    She'd have plenty of suitors among 50-year-old men earning ¥3 million.
    254AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:45
    Why does it have to be someone younger?
    At 40 she can still just barely have kids, right?
    269AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #254
    Because breasts start sagging from the late 30s.
    271AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #254
    Recovery from a late-life pregnancy is slower, and the odds of dying from a brain hemorrhage are higher too.
    Could a man really handle raising a kid left behind on his own?
    276AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #254
    For a woman's first pregnancy at 40, natural conception is pretty rough.
    Even with fertility treatment, maybe only 1 in 10 actually manages to give birth.
    261AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:46
    You don't need to go that far just to get married.
    I'm fine being single for life at this point.

    Having to grind through marriage-hunting like that — if you're already out of breath at the starting line, something's wrong.
    282AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:49
    Re: #261
    Back in the day you didn't have to try that hard —
    people around you would automatically bring you arranged-meeting offers.
    Different era now, though.
    Everyone just seems way too bloodshot-eyed about it these days.
    Does it really need to be that intense?
    288AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:50
    Isn't it actually the matchmaking agency that's the reason he can't get married?
    Might be better to spend that money and effort a different way.
    296AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:52
    Re: #288
    I don't think someone in their 40s could get married any other way.
    306AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:53
    Re: #288
    Asking acquaintances for introductions, or looking for encounters through clubs or hobby classes, seems like it'd make you happier though.
    313AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:54
    Re: #288
    It's a place where people who couldn't manage it any other way end up gathering.
    That's what a matchmaking agency is.
    311AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:54
    Boomerang woman (it comes back around on her)
    328AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:56
    On the marriage-hunting front lines, it's the women who are left over.

    http://imgur.com/E9pVyV2.jpg
    http://imgur.com/jhe3ClI.jpg
    340AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:58
    **************

    Among married people, 79% of men and 65% of women say they think, or have thought, "I'd have been better off single."
    https://image.itmedia.co.jp/business/articles/2201/08/l_kk_kekko_02.jpg

    ****************

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    A matchmaking agency’s “o-miai” (arranged meeting) works on a system where both sides review each other’s profile beforehand and decide whether to accept, so candidates are easily screened out on quantifiable criteria like income and education. This article introduced the case of a male member for whom insisting on younger women kept raising the income bar he needed to clear, putting him at an ever-growing disadvantage on paper. Where the thread split was over whether income or communication skill really determines how easy it is to marry — some argued high income wins out even for a poor talker, while others insisted being proactive and good at conversation matters more. Worth noting is that matchmaking-agency matching tends to center on “catalog stats” like income — a quirk of the marriage-hunting market that the original article doesn’t dig into.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “[Marriage Hunting] Four Years Younger Requires ¥10 Million, Eight Years Younger Requires ¥20 Million… The Misguided Assumptions of a 40-Year-Old Man Earning ¥5.5 Million Who Can’t Land a Single Arranged Meeting Despite Applying to 100 People a Month.”

  • Unauthorized Climbing During Mt. Fuji’s Off-Season Can Trigger Road Act Penalties — 5ch: “Someone Should Just Citizen’s-Arrest Them”

    Mt. Fuji, straddling Shizuoka and Yamanashi, typically closes for the season in early September, but a TV Asahi crew caught people busting through barricades to push for the summit on the first weekend after this year’s closure. Once the mountain closes, its trails become legally off-limits under Article 46 of the Road Act, and violators can face up to six months’ imprisonment or a fine of up to 300,000 yen. Even so, rescue calls keep coming in, and there have reportedly been cases of mountain huts being vandalized. On 5ch, users debated how off-season climbers should be punished, how rescues should be handled, and moves being considered to make climbing registration mandatory and charge for rescue costs.

    Sept 13 (Sun), 1:18 AM JST

    TV Asahi (ANN)

    Mt. Fuji had its first weekend since closing for the season. On the 12th, our cameras caught people pushing past barricades on a trail marked “No Entry,” climbing on despite bad weather. (Aired Sept. 12 on “Saturday Station”)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:44
    If they were brazenly walking past a "no entry" barrier, someone should've made a citizen's arrest. Why'd they just let it slide?
    64AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:03
    Re: #2
    Mountains and the sea have always been lawless zones anyway.
    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:44
    They should make the post-closure entry fee 1 million yen, and unauthorized entry 5 million yen.
    Rescue costs billed separately, of course.
    28AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:53
    Re: #3
    Just let them die. That'd stop the secondary casualties too.
    203AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:22
    Re: #3
    Bill them? They'll just skip out on paying.
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:44
    Even in a case like this, do rescuers still have to respond if someone calls for help?
    12AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:46
    Re: #5
    The mountain huts are closed once the season's over.
    There's no guarantee a rescue team reaches you before you're dead.
    81AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:10
    Re: #5
    Sadly, yes.
    6AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:44
    Not enough public notice.
    They need to publicize this more.
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:45
    You guys really hate exercise, huh.
    How are you gonna get through life with a body like that?
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:49
    Re: #7
    (;゚Д゚) I'm fine — I bike round-trip between Saitama and Tokyo.
    27AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:53
    Put this sign up at the trailhead:

    "Only climb if you can descend under your own power.
    Note: if you get stranded, we'll recover your body next season, but we will not rescue you."
    34AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:54
    Re: #27
    Even with a sign that carefully worded, they'll call for rescue anyway. No way they're just going to die quietly.
    30AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:53
    Why not just arrest every single one of them for trespassing?
    37AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:56
    The question is who has the authority to ban climbing, and on what basis.
    Is it actually legally binding? Are there real penalties?
    If not, then it's not a crime at all.
    92AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:15
    Re: #37
    Are you even Japanese?
    If you were, you'd know a famous law like this one.
    It's been in the news over and over.
    120AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:25
    Re: #30
    Exactly.
    They've got barricades properly set up and people are still busting through them.

    Re: #37
    Looked it up — the legal basis is Article 46 of the Road Act.
    Violators face up to 6 months' imprisonment or a fine of up to 300,000 yen.
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:57
    Just leave 'em be, lol
    49AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:59
    Re: #41
    Thing is, these guys still call in for rescue when something goes wrong.
    Ignore them and you'll just get another crowd kicking up a fuss.
    60AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:02
    Re: #49
    Set up a paid hotline number with an AI voice loop that never actually connects, lol
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:03
    Re: #49
    Who are they even calling?
    The phone line should be off during the closed season too.
    76AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:08
    The mountain huts are definitely going to get trashed.
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:11
    Re: #76
    During this year's pre-season prep, the locks were already broken and the place had been ransacked.
    83AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:11
    Re: #76
    There have always been plenty of people like that.
    Off-season climbers who break a hut's lock because it's cold, let themselves in to sleep, and drink whatever leftover drinks are lying around.

    And remember, a few years back the rest house at the Fujinomiya Trail's 5th Station burned completely down because some idiot broke in during the closed season and lit a fire to keep warm.
    155AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:47
    If they're serious about stopping people from climbing, why not just block off the access roads?
    160AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:50
    Re: #155
    Dunno, but wouldn't that affect people who actually work around Mt. Fuji?
    I guess some people still go up for work even after closure, not just for rescue and search operations.
    169AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:55
    Re: #160
    According to the official site, authorized personnel do still go up after closure.
    In that case, I'd think they could just restrict the Subaru Line to authorized people only.
    184AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:08
    Closing the mountain doesn't actually mean climbing itself is banned, you know.
    187AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:09
    Re: #184
    Way too many idiots don't get this.
    It's just Sengen Shrine's opening/closing ritual, that's all it is.
    195AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:13
    Re: #184 Re: #187
    Actually, climbing IS banned.
    Under the Road Act, the route to the summit is closed to passage.
    There's a real chance of being penalized for breaking the law.
    https://www.fujisan-climb.jp/off-season/
    198AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:17
    Remember that guy who livestreamed himself falling?
    That was terrifying.
    208AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:25
    Re: #198
    If it's the one from the Niconico Live streamer, you can still find the video.
    Though it might've been taken down by now.
    210AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:25
    Re: #198
    Wasn't it edited down to the point you couldn't even tell the gender?
    206AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:24
    Re: #195
    They're in final coordination on making climbing registration mandatory and charging for rescue costs.
    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/20260910-GYT1T00319/
    215AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:33
    Re: #206
    So does that mean they're basically allowing climbing during the closed season?
    Well, hardly anyone's actually dumb enough to call for rescue in practice anyway.
    216AnonymousSep 13, 2026 12:34
    Re: #206
    That's a separate issue.
    Some of the people who register and enter during winter are serious pros training with full awareness of the risk, so just leave them alone.
    They do sometimes die too, like in the Ukyo Katayama case (the former F1 driver who died in a winter climbing accident on Fuji), but that's just how it is — basically no need to go rescue them.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mt. Fuji’s “closing” is a custom rooted in Sengen Shrine’s religious rites, but the legal basis for treating the trails themselves as off-limits after closure comes from a road-closure measure under Article 46 of the Road Act. In the thread, a misconception that “closed season doesn’t mean climbing is banned” clashed with posts pointing out that the ban does carry real legal weight, with replies laying out the statute and its penalties (up to six months’ imprisonment or a fine of up to 300,000 yen). Also raised as background: mountain huts sit closed during the off-season, which can delay rescues in an emergency, and there’s a history of huts being vandalized. According to reporting by the Yomiuri Shimbun, mandatory climbing registration and paid rescue fees are reportedly in final coordination — a broader safety overhaul for Mt. Fuji reaching beyond just the closed season, and an important piece of context that the original news report alone doesn’t make clear.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[🗻] “Foreign tour groups” spotted on Mt. Fuji trails after closure — reality of “10,000 climbers a year” during the off-season revealed.”

  • ‘My Pay Never Changes, Only My Taxes Go Up’ — Japan’s Impoverishment Machine Sparks Backlash

    A report claiming that “wages aren’t rising, yet taxes and social insurance premiums keep getting heavier” sparked a wide-ranging debate on 5ch’s News Express+ board. According to an OECD survey, as of 2022 Japan ranked 25th out of 38 member countries in wages, with an average in the high 4-million-yen range — a huge gap compared to top countries earning over 10 million yen. In the thread, users criticized the politicians responsible for tax hikes and ballooning social security costs, vented frustration over “hidden burdens” like consumption tax and national health insurance premiums, and debated the merits of the welfare (livelihood protection) system, with some expressing regret over how companies and policy abandoned the “Employment Ice Age” generation. Others pushed back, arguing that “wages actually are rising,” splitting opinion over the gap between statistics and lived experience.

    (details omitted)

    According to a survey by the OECD (Organisation for International Cooperation and Development), Japan ranked 25th in wages among the 38 member countries in 2022. While top-ranked countries like Switzerland, Iceland, and Luxembourg sit at the 10-million-yen level, Japan is in the high 4-million-yen range — far below the member average.

    For reference, according to the National Tax Agency’s “Reiwa 6 (2024) Survey on Private Sector Salaries,” average annual income by age group breaks down as follows.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:22
    Who turned Japan into this!?
    43AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:36
    Re: #2
    The voters who elected these garbage politicians.
    94AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:58
    Re: #2
    It's the consumption tax.

    Japan's decline started right when this thing began — just look at the GDP growth graph, it shows it plainly.
    272AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:48
    Re: #2
    The politicians from the '90s through the 2000s.
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:23
    Tax revenue keeps hitting record highs every single year, but the LDP crowd trots out "where's the funding gonna come from" the moment it's inconvenient.

    95AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:59
    Re: #5
    Where does it all disappear to every year, I wonder.
    195AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:25
    Re: #5
    When prices rise, government spending goes up too, you know.
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:24
    Re: #1
    Moving to Tokyo in the first place is just stupid. If you're getting into a famous university, your parents are rich enough to send you an allowance, and you have a clear plan to land a big-income job in a major industry down the road, fine — but otherwise it's the height of foolishness.
    193AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:24
    Re: #7
    Saving money while living with your parents is the right call these days.
    Building a house
    and paying double living costs —
    were we all just brainwashed by the government into thinking that was the "correct" path???

    For reference, my
    unmarried son still lives at home
    and has saved 20 million yen in his 30s.

    A relative's kid has the grandparents watch the children while both parents work,
    and they've saved over 100 million yen.

    And it's not even the countryside —
    it's a government-designated city,
    3 minutes from the station.
    9AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:25
    Pensions and welfare are on the side that's squeezing money out of workers.
    Some beggar is bound to show up on this thread screaming to scrap the consumption tax, but know your place.
    32AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:32
    Re: #9
    Exactly this.
    The reality is working adults get hit with massive tax burdens
    while lazy welfare recipients live a carefree life.

    They should just abolish the whole welfare system.
    115AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:03
    Re: #32
    They should renovate closed-down schools in rapidly aging rural areas into dormitories with three meals a day for welfare recipients,
    pay recipients just about 10,000 yen a month in pocket money,
    and shuttle them to hospital visits by minibus.
    If it's dorm life, there's no need to give everyone their own smartphone either.
    Honestly, it's absurd to let people who can't support themselves live in independent households in the first place.
    13AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:26
    The era of retiring at 70 is right around the corner.
    104AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:01
    Re: #13
    What are you talking about — retirement age is going to be 95.
    19AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:27
    The hidden tax that is health insurance premiums is even worse. If you're self-employed, it runs over 1 million yen a year.
    84AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:57
    Re: #19
    Dunno what job you're in, but it's your own fault for not signing up for something like the Construction Workers' National Health Insurance.
    It's around 45,000 yen a month regardless of income.
    24AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:29
    The child allowance used to be 30,000 yen every two months, but
    it got cut to 20,000 yen starting the month my kid turned 3.
    Our income went up, so the daycare fee also
    rose from 15,000 yen to 30,000 yen.

    Isn't it contradictory to tell people to have kids and raise them while doing this?
    224AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:30
    Re: #24
    At the start of the Heisei era,
    having a second child got you
    just 2,500 yen
    a month!

    And even that 2,500 yen only lasted until about age 3!


    If they'd
    beefed up the allowance back then,
    more people would have had kids…

    I wanted about 4 kids,
    but I gave up once I thought about tuition costs.
    56AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:42
    It's your own fault if you don't put in the effort.
    Just go earn money doing anything, even shady gig work ("yami baito" — under-the-table jobs often tied to scams or crime).
    Personal responsibility.
    59AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:45
    Re: #56
    Doubt it.
    Japanese people are genuinely hardworking.
    The only explanation for low wages despite that is the government steering toward a weak yen and negligence on the part of companies.

    >Real labor productivity growth, adjusted for inflation, was +0.2% year-on-year, marking the fourth straight year of gains.
    >On a quarterly basis, it has been positive for six consecutive quarters from Jan-Mar 2024 through Apr-Jun 2025, the longest streak of productivity growth since 2000.

    >Nominal labor productivity per worker also topped 9 million yen for the first time, reaching 9.07 million yen.
    https://ailesplus.com/news/?p=61019
    93AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:58
    Re: #56
    Shady gig work is a no-go.
    61AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    If they'd helped the Employment Ice Age generation 25 years ago, things wouldn't have turned out like this.
    It's entirely on companies.
    87AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:57
    Re: #61
    Whatever the root cause, I think things would've turned out quite differently if they'd corrected course back then.
    Decades of being forced to endure it — and, annoyingly, the Japanese trait of being able to just endure it made things worse too.
    63AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:47
    Re: #41
    Disabled people have disability pensions, and the elderly have old-age pensions,
    so it'd be fine to abolish it entirely.
    116AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:03
    Re: #63
    Do you even know how much that is per month?
    75AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:54
    Japan became a temp-staffing superpower — the Koizumi-Takenaka duo broke everything.
    91AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:58
    Re: #75
    Well, it was the voters at the time who gave that overwhelming support, though.
    They looked down on regular employees and civil servants as "slaves" compared to temp work,
    praising it to the skies as the free lifestyle and way of working of the future — even on this very board.
    86AnonymousSep 13, 2026 10:57
    Wages are rising, aren't they. Bonuses too…
    Minimum wage has gone up quite a bit too.
    Why do they shamelessly write false articles like this?
    239AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:35
    Re: #86
    Because the vast majority of middle-aged and older workers haven't seen much of a raise.
    245AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:38
    Re: #86
    Go bring me the median wage graph.
    97AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:00
    Losing out even to South Korea and Taiwan, whose populations are less than half of Japan's —
    how low is this country's productivity?
    This is the price for not investing in anything since the bubble burst.
    111AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:02
    Re: #97
    Maybe it's that a lot of people aren't working?
    The people who are working have high productivity,
    but the non-working, non-productive ones drag the average down or something?
    102AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:01
    Re: #95 It's because the debt is way too massive. In a sense, it's like paying off a revolving credit balance.
    107AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:01
    Re: #102
    Debt owed to whom?
    131AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:07
    The tax that's taken comes back to you anyway, so it's all the same lol
    137AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:09
    Re: #131 They're handing it out to people who never had it taken from them too, so some people come out even and some don't.
    188AnonymousSep 13, 2026 11:24
    Re: #131
    There are all kinds of handout payments, after all.
    Demanding handouts is what drives taxes up.
    Chicken or the egg, huh lol

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The National Tax Agency’s “Survey on Private Sector Salaries” and OECD wage comparisons make headlines every year, but it’s worth noting the difference between "average" and "median." Averages are easily pulled upward by high earners, so they tend to diverge from what people actually feel. As some commenters noted, nominal labor productivity itself is on an upward trend — the real issue lies in a distribution structure where productivity gains aren’t reflected in wages. Rising taxes and social insurance premiums also have structural roots in the natural growth of social security costs driven by the falling birthrate and aging population, so the situation can’t be explained by simply blaming the government. The trajectory of economic growth since the consumption tax was introduced, the expansion of temp staffing work, and delayed support for the Employment Ice Age generation are all policy decisions that have piled up over the years to produce the current situation — a nuance that’s easy to miss in the back-and-forth of comments alone.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “‘My pay hasn’t changed, but my tax burden just keeps growing…’ — the ‘cruel mechanism’ behind Japan’s ongoing impoverishment.”

  • Satsuma Domain’s 150-Year-Old Ban on Jodo Shinshu Buddhism: Kagoshima Exhibits Sacred Treasures to Mark the Anniversary of Its Lifting

    At the Kagoshima Betsuin temple of Hongan-ji in Kagoshima City, a panel and sacred-treasure exhibition is being held to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the lifting of the ban on Jodo Shinshu (True Pure Land) Buddhism. In the Satsuma Domain, Jodo Shinshu had long been outlawed, and history shows that not only commoners but even samurai secretly kept their faith. On 5channel, a thread sparked lively discussion about why the sect was banned, the distinctive funeral customs that still linger strongly even after the ban was lifted, and doctrinal differences with other sects — the conversation even veered into theories about which sect the Tokugawa shogunal family belonged to.

    Jodo Shinshu was once a banned faith in the Satsuma Domain. The year 2026 marks the 150th anniversary of the lifting of that ban. A temple in Kagoshima City held an exhibition tracing this history and the journey of those who kept practicing their faith in secret.

    At the Kagoshima Betsuin of Hongan-ji in Kagoshima City, a panel exhibition and sacred-treasure exhibition were held to commemorate 150 years since “the opening of the faith in Satsuma.”

    “On display are materials from the era when Jodo Shinshu was banned in Kagoshima, as well as records from after the ban was lifted in the 9th year of Meiji [1876] — materials related to the temple and records of people who practiced their faith in secret” (Tomooka Satoshi, Kagoshima Betsuin of Hongan-ji).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:00
    Are there really differences between Buddhist sects worth fussing over?
    17AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:16
    Re: #3
    Enough that Nobunaga's Ambition (the strategy game series) sorts faith into categories like "Buddhism," "Ikko-shu," and "Christianity"
    109AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:52
    Re: #3
    Strictly speaking there are differences, but ordinary believers don't know the details and aren't even expected to, so it's basically the same as having none.
    For the average person, whether it's Zen, Pure Land, or Nichiren-affiliated, it's all just "the folks who handle the funeral" the same way.
    Either way, the head priest has hair, is married, and drinks and eats meat.
    162AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:45
    Re: #3
    Zen sect — emphasizes seated meditation
    Shingon sect — emphasizes mantras and sutras
    Jodo (Pure Land) sect — puts Amida Buddha above all else, that kind of thing
    4AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:01
    So why was Jodo Shinshu banned in the first place?
    5AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:04
    Re: #4
    Because the Shimazu clan, the domain lords, feared an Ikko ikki uprising
    21AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:25
    Re: #4
    Hongan-ji's teachings risked undermining the Shimazu clan's rigid status system, and worse — earnings the Shimazu lord should've been squeezing out of people might get donated to Hongan-ji instead
    7AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:06
    Ironically, it was Jodo Shinshu that revived Kagoshima's Buddhism after it was thoroughly crushed during the haibutsu kishaku (anti-Buddhist purge)
    52AnonymousSep 13, 2026 01:19
    Re: #7
    Even before the haibutsu kishaku, the region had already been hit once by a Christian "invasion"
    88AnonymousSep 13, 2026 05:12
    Re: #7
    It just moved into the empty space left behind, that's all
    18AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:17
    Why was it so popular anyway? What's different from today?
    23AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:27
    Re: #18
    Jodo Shinshu is the only sect where lay believers can become buddhas.
    If you live a normal life you're bound to kill something at some point, so in every other sect you're guaranteed to fall into hell.

    That's where "funeral Buddhism" comes in — the bereaved family pays a priest so the deceased can at least get into paradise.
    Even then, you don't become a buddha, you just come back to this world again.
    And there's no guarantee you'll even be reborn human.

    Well? Doesn't Jodo Shinshu sound better now?
    30AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:32
    Re: #23
    My family is Jodo Shinshu, Hongan-ji branch.
    When I was worrying about how to handle my parents' funeral and looked into it, Jodo Shinshu funerals turned out to be a real pain — quite different from other sects.

    > And there's no guarantee you'll even be reborn human
    Honestly, next time I'm reborn I want to come back as a sloth deep in the African jungle and spend my whole life just chilling out there.
    70AnonymousSep 13, 2026 01:49
    Re: #30
    Huh? I was chief mourner for a Jodo Shinshu funeral once and it was incredibly easy.
    Like I said, it depends on the priest, but the old temple that's taken care of my family for generations never once sent anything like an invoice.
    I've heard that elsewhere in the same city there are temples that basically bill you for a not-cheap amount, and the old folks joke about how rough that other temple sounds by comparison.
    I'm sure the wealthy in our congregation give plenty too, but seriously, the Jodo Shinshu funeral was easy.
    198AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:57
    Re: #30
    Jodo Shinshu is the easiest by far.
    The donation (ofuse) is half of what other sects charge too.
    20AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:20
    There's no religion out there that isn't at least a little crazy.
    25AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:28
    Re: #20
    That's because it's built to be convenient for those in power, even if the founder never intended that.
    26AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:28
    Re: #20
    Though at the same time, no one is free of contradictions either.
    22AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:25
    Not totally clear on this, but is it basically a catchy teaching like "just believe and anyone can go to paradise when they die"?

    Is it the sect for people who like flashy gold decoration?
    27AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:29
    Re: #22
    You can reach paradise through other sects too, not just this one.
    If the bereaved family pays a priest to perform memorial rites, you get there.

    But if there's no one left to perform rites for you, it's hell.
    Because everyone kills something at some point, guaranteed.
    33AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:39
    Re: #22
    Back then, commoners suffering from famine, plague, and war were desperate for salvation, but in the Buddhism of the time only powerful aristocrats or the ultra-wealthy who could make huge donations could become monks.
    Commoners couldn't even get to the starting line, and samurai were out of the question since killing was their trade.
    In that climate, the Pure Land schools taught that ordinary people living honestly were saved more readily than monks who built gilded temples — and of those schools, Shinshu was the one that really connected with the common people.
    24AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:28
    Jodo Shinshu could serve as a spiritual pillar for commoners in the Edo period, and it had real value back then.
    But in today's world, where people already have food, clothing, and shelter, it offers no support at all.
    If anything, it's just modern money-worshipping, desire-riddled hereditary priests fleecing you of money you earned through hard sweat.
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:30
    Re: #24
    Jodo Shinshu doesn't require payment.
    Believers all become buddhas immediately upon death, no charge.
    55AnonymousSep 13, 2026 01:22
    Re: #24
    AI: "No need to worry at all — we'll take care of everything for you."
    31AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:33
    Fairly rundown, huh

    https://i0.wp.com/access21-co.xsrv.jp/shigekikou/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/202209091604.jpg
    34AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:44
    Buddha: "A thousand years after my death, people will no longer be able to attain enlightenment through their own effort — cling to Amida Buddha instead."

    Buddhism means the teachings of the Buddha.
    Anything that contradicts the Buddha's teachings isn't Buddhism.
    In other words, in the present day, only the Jodo (Pure Land) and Jodo Shinshu sects are true Buddhism.
    All the "self-power" sects are fakes.
    46AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:59
    Re: #34
    Which sutra is that from?
    Pure Land thought isn't in early Buddhism — it's from the Tendai lineage.
    That's just the standard line Mahayana uses when criticizing early Buddhism.
    56AnonymousSep 13, 2026 01:24
    Re: #34
    The other sects are just "skillful means" (hoben) meant to lead people toward Jodo Shinshu.
    The truly fake ones are separately designated as "heretical."
    61AnonymousSep 13, 2026 01:28
    Re: #34
    "So we've developed technology to make practice 1,000 times more efficient than back then!"
    77AnonymousSep 13, 2026 02:08
    Even so, these days believers overwhelmingly belong to Jodo Shinshu — Tendai, Shingon, and Soto, which held power throughout the medieval period, have far fewer followers.
    I wonder if commoners were already mostly Jodo Shinshu or Jodo sect even by the late Muromachi period.
    82AnonymousSep 13, 2026 03:02
    Re: #77
    Number of believers:
    Jodo sect lineage — about 19 million
    Shingon sect lineage (11 branches combined) — about 12 million
    114AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:58
    Re: #77
    What do you mean "overwhelmingly"?
    Sect affiliation originally reflected social class to begin with.
    Tendai/Shingon — court nobility
    Soto/Rinzai — samurai
    Jodo sect — farmers and townsfolk
    There are exceptions, of course.
    Current sect population figures come out every year in statistics, and there's no dramatically huge gap.
    102AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:26
    Jodo Shinshu was only classified as one of the traditional religions after the Meiji era.
    In the Edo period it wasn't officially recognized as a temple.
    Huge organizations like Hongan-ji may have held power, but ordinary local temples weren't treated as official temples — they were treated like new religious movements.
    Yet some of them were still used within the danka (parishioner registration) system, so their standing was ambiguous.
    113AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:58
    Re: #102
    Isn't it a stretch to say it wasn't an official temple when it served as the family temple (bodaiji) of daimyo houses?
    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/守綱寺
    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/忠綱寺
    156AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:41
    Re: #113
    Apparently Ikko-shu was outside the jurisdiction of the Tokugawa shogunate's temple and shrine magistrate (jisha-bugyo).
    It might have been different in the various regional domains though.
    136AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:26
    Re: #1
    Wasn't the Tokugawa family Jodo Shinshu…?
    139AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:27
    Re: #136
    Wasn't Tokugawa Nichiren-shu?
    143AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:30
    Re: #139
    That's just because one of Tokugawa Mitsukuni's concubines happened to be Nichiren-shu — the main Tokugawa line and the three branch houses (gosanke) have been Jodo Shinshu for over 400 years.
    145AnonymousSep 13, 2026 07:33
    Re: #143
    Really now? Never heard that.
    Everyone normally says Tokugawa = Nichiren-shu, right?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Satsuma Domain is said to have banned Jodo Shinshu because the Shimazu clan feared that Ikko ikki uprisings by Hongan-ji followers could destabilize the status system. Unlike other sects, its doctrine doesn’t require mandatory donations, and tradition holds that not only commoners but even samurai kept practicing in secret. The ban was lifted in the 9th year of Meiji (1876), and the current exhibition commemorates that 150th anniversary. In the thread, alongside discussion of the reasons for the ban, there was a string of personal accounts claiming that Jodo Shinshu funerals are simpler and cheaper than those of other sects, while opinions split over which sect the Tokugawa shogunal family actually belonged to, with both Jodo-sect and Jodo-Shinshu theories put forward. It’s worth noting that all of this reflects individual posters’ personal knowledge and impressions on 5channel, not confirmed historical fact.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “[Kagoshima] ‘Not only commoners but samurai too practiced in secret’ — Jodo Shinshu, banned in the Satsuma Domain, marks 150 years since the ban was lifted… temple holds commemorative sacred-treasure exhibition.”

  • “KEEEEEI!” — Satsuma’s Ancient Sword School Yakumaru Jigen-ryu Holds Ceremony for Its 15th Grand Master

    At Sengan-en in Kagoshima City, a ceremony was held to install the 15th head of Yakumaru Jigen-ryu, an old school of swordsmanship handed down from the Satsuma domain, with practitioners ranging in age from 5 to 77 demonstrating its one-strike-kill technique to the distinctive battle cry of “KEEEEEI!” The school is said to date back roughly 1,000 years, and legend has it that both Kirino Toshiaki (Nakamura Hanjiro) and Togo Heihachiro trained in it during the late Edo period. On 5ch, threads debated its lineage relationship to the similarly Satsuma-born Jigen-ryu, the origin of the battle cry, and how effective it would actually be in real combat.

    A ceremony was held at Sengan-en to install the 15th head of Yakumaru Jigen-ryu, a school of swordsmanship handed down from the Satsuma domain. Participants ranging in age from 5 to 77 took part, demonstrating the old sword art.

    “KEEEEEEEI!”

    Yakumaru Jigen-ryu is said to date back roughly 1,000 years. It’s a “one-strike-kill” style that stakes everything on the very first swing, and it was passed down among the lower-ranking samurai of the Satsuma domain.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:42
    Wait, isn't the shout supposed to be "chesuto"?
    29AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:00
    Re: #3
    Cheerio!
    169AnonymousSep 13, 2026 05:13
    Re: #3
    That's a botched "chesuto" for ya, goawasu (old Satsuma-dialect for "is/it is")
    196AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:15
    Re: #3
    Yakumaru Jigen-ryu is actually an offshoot of Satsunan Jigen-ryu (the "chesutooo" one)
    6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:44
    Kinda sounds like it's turned into a licensing racket, like flower arranging or tea ceremony~
    55AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:17
    Re: #6
    Giving out "tea names" and the like is technically banned as a front, but apparently some people still charge 1 million or 3 million yen for one.
    That's 5x, 15x the going rate!
    10AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:45
    I watched the news clip and honestly the shouting was needlessly loud, kind of annoyed me.
    And on top of that the swordwork looked wobbly and lame.
    12AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:48
    Re: #10
    Probably because they're swinging something heavy, that's why.
    11AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:47
    13AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:48
    Wouldn't a one-strike kill be more reliable done silently instead of with a shout?
    18AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:53
    Re: #13
    It's not dojo swordsmanship, it's built for war, so you need the battle cry to psych yourself up.
    20AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:53
    Re: #13
    Having these guys line up on a battlefield and come charging at you screaming would be sheer terror.
    23AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:56
    53AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:16
    Re: #23
    When you explain it like that, it does start to feel like it'd actually be strong…
    36AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:06
    Sounds like at best it's aiming for a mutual kill.
    Still, this is a style meant for 1-on-1 fights, right?
    41AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:08
    Re: #36
    By that logic every sword style is the same.
    For group combat, bows and spears are the standard.
    46AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:11
    Re: #36
    No, since it's mainly an overhead swing, charging in formation works too.

    Re: #39
    That's more about the quality of the soldiers than the swordsmanship. Echigo troops do seem tougher than Satsuma troops.
    Wasn't the "Echigo master" Toda Seigen of the Chujo-ryu?
    39AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:07
    What sword styles even come from Echigo?
    50AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:14
    I wonder if not many people are watching Dan Don?
    It's really good though.
    51AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:14
    Re: #50
    I love it so much.
    129AnonymousSep 13, 2026 02:38
    Re: #50
    I'm watching it.
    Nakamura Hanjiro, who was a total monster in Chiruran, is adorably dumb in this one.
    61AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:22
    I want to know why Kagoshima Prefecture fell from grace.
    65AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:24
    Re: #61
    You… are you about to vanish…?
    76AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:35
    Re: #61
    Because all the talented people moved to Tokyo.
    78AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:38
    Re: #61
    It was already in decline to begin with.
    It's remembered as a wealthy domain, but after conquering the Ryukyu Kingdom, Satsuma actually used Ryukyu as a base to mint counterfeit koban (gold coins).
    Once the counterfeiting was discovered, the paper currency of every domain in Kyushu instantly lost credibility.
    When the domains investigated just how much fake money was circulating, it turned out everyone had copied Satsuma and was minting counterfeits too.
    "Wait, we were doing it too?!"
    A Fukuoka domain retainer was so ashamed at having failed to notice this that it escalated all the way to him committing seppuku.


    https://rekishikaido.php.co.jp/detail/6693?p=1
    68AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:26
    Kirino Toshiaki was that Satsuma army officer who either killed himself or was executed during the Satsuma Rebellion, right?
    Even Jigen-ryu couldn't beat the government army's guns and cannons.
    81AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:43
    Re: #68
    Before he changed his name he was Nakamura Hanjiro, one of the "Four Great Assassins" of the late Edo period.
    He was a lower-ranking samurai as poor as a farmer, but apparently had a blunt, straightforward personality and was hugely popular with women.
    175AnonymousSep 13, 2026 05:25
    Re: #68
    That was after he cut down Saigo, who had tried to flee.
    72AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:31
    Togo Shigekata, 13th head of Jigen-ryu
    80AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:42
    Togo Shigekata, founder and 1st generation of Jigen-ryu
    121AnonymousSep 13, 2026 02:30
    If it were the strongest, they wouldn't have been routed at Sekigahara.
    131AnonymousSep 13, 2026 02:43
    Re: #121
    Actually, they broke straight through the enemy lines and retreated out the other side, lol
    136AnonymousSep 13, 2026 02:51
    Re: #121
    Wasn't Taisha-ryu probably the mainstream style at that time?
    Sorry if I'm wrong, I don't know much about this.
    145AnonymousSep 13, 2026 03:11
    So Yakumaru Hirohide is a real descendant? That's wild.
    146AnonymousSep 13, 2026 03:20
    Re: #145
    Sorry, I looked into it and it doesn't seem related.
    Apparently he's from Musashimurayama City.
    Correcting myself.
    200AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:22
    Re: #146
    That whole exchange above was a joke, you know.
    Haha, you fell for it!
    201AnonymousSep 13, 2026 06:23
    Re: #146
    I'm pretty sure Yakumaru Hirohide's father or grandfather was from Kagoshima. It's a rare surname even in Kagoshima, so he's probably a descendant, or at least related.
    156AnonymousSep 13, 2026 04:14
    Ka-BLAM.
    186AnonymousSep 13, 2026 05:45
    Re: #156
    I believe the story behind this scene is that Harrison Ford, who played Indiana Jones, was sick and in terrible shape at the time, so they staged it to end in one quick shot instead, lol

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Yakumaru Jigen-ryu is considered an offshoot of Jigen-ryu, the mainstream school of swordsmanship in the Satsuma domain, and it spread mainly among lower-ranking samurai. Like Jigen-ryu, it puts heavy emphasis on “settling things with a single strike,” a training system built around massed charges into battle rather than dojo-style dueling, which is why its purpose differs from typical swordsmanship. Nakamura Hanjiro (later Kirino Toshiaki), known as an assassin in the late Edo period, and Togo Heihachiro, who led the Combined Fleet in the Russo-Japanese War, are both said to have trained under this school. On the thread, users traded knowledge about how to render the battle cry (“chesuto” vs. “kei”) and the lineage relationship with Jigen-ryu. Meanwhile, posts linking TV personality Yakumaru Hirohide to the family line were later corrected as having been a “joke,” so this has not been confirmed as fact. The fact that the succession ceremony brought together such a wide range of ages, from 5 to 77, illustrates how traditional culture continues to be passed down in the regions.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Kagoshima] “KEEEEEI!” — Satsuma Domain’s “One-Strike-Kill” Yakumaru Jigen-ryu Holds Ceremony for 15th Grand Master… Disciples Included Kirino Toshiaki and Togo Heihachiro: “We Want to Keep This Going for 10,000 Years”.”

  • ‘Rejected Even With Steady Income’: Elderly Singles Locked Out of Renting

    A TV program spotlighted a growing number of cases where single people with jobs and steady income are being turned away by real estate agencies when trying to rent — and the story caught fire on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. The program featured testimony from a man in his 60s: “Even though I’m working and have income, I still got rejected.” On the thread, posters repeatedly pointed out that landlords avoid elderly single tenants mainly over the risk of lonely deaths (kodokushi) and the cost of restoring the unit afterward, sparking debate over whether public housing and local council watch-over services are actually working. The discussion also spilled into the broader question of whether owning or renting is better for old age.

    “Even though I’m working and have an income, I got turned down by the real estate agent. There’s nothing I can do.” (Man in his 60s)

    Broadcast & streaming: Wednesday the 16th, 7:30 PM

    Right now, single people are increasingly finding themselves unable to rent an apartment.

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:31
    What are renters supposed to do once they're old?
    8AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:32
    Re: #6
    I've still got 30-40 years to go, everything will be totally different by then anyway
    14AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:33
    Re: #6
    Crash at my girlfriend's place (she's an old bag)
    46AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:41
    Re: #6
    As long as you pay rent on time you can keep living there into old age — they can't terminate your lease or evict you just because you got old
    7AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:32
    Isn't public housing supposed to handle this?
    26AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:36
    Re: #7
    The city housing near me has basically turned into a complex full of elderly people living alone. It's ancient and there's no plan to rebuild it, so young people and families won't move in — that's probably why.
    183AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:07
    Re: #7 Even public housing turns them down? What, did they commit murder or something?
    64AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:45
    You can rent just fine normally — tenant rights are strong in Japan. This is the usual pattern of Close-Up Gendai (an NHK current-affairs show) manufacturing a 'poor vulnerable victim' narrative.
    70AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:46
    Re: #64
    Nobody wants to rent to old guys — the odds of a lonely death are too high. If you were the landlord you'd feel the same way.
    76AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:47
    Re: #64
    Yeah, this. Google it and plenty comes up.
    138AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:58
    Re: #1
    Big cities have much better support services.


    The "Nakano Ward Anshin Sumai Pack" (Safe Living Package) is a service offered by providers under agreement with Nakano Ward for singles living in private rental housing — it bundles ongoing welfare check-ins with coverage for clearing out belongings and restoring the unit if the tenant dies.

    Info on the Nakano Ward Anshin Sumai Pack:
    https://www.city.tokyo-nakano.lg.jp/machizukuri/jyutaku/shien/anshinsumaipack.html
    145AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:00
    Singles should just live in Nakano Ward, which has the service mentioned in Re: #138
    219AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:13
    Re: #138
    Guess I'm moving to Nakano Ward!
    144AnonymousSep 12, 2026 23:59
    Look, if you're going to run an apartment business you need to just accept that lonely deaths and sudden deaths are par for the course. Everyone knows people die eventually! And it's not just today's elderly — the tenants you have right now will get old too. Or are you planning to treat them like valued customers now, then find some excuse to kick them out once they age?
    164AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:04
    Re: #144
    > Or are you planning to treat them like valued customers now, then find some excuse to kick them out once they age?

    That's probably exactly the mindset of landlords who flatly refuse to rent to the elderly.
    169AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:04
    Re: #144
    Which is exactly why nobody's going to want to run apartment buildings anymore — they'll just shut down the business once major repairs are needed.
    185AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:07
    If you won't rent to singles, what are you supposed to do about salarymen on job transfers?
    197AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:09
    Re: #185
    They'll rent to a salaryman if he works for a company big enough to have transfers
    218AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:13
    Re: #185
    Can you even read Japanese? Did you actually look at this?

    We're talking about elderly singles here, lol
    215AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:12
    It'd be fine if there were private apartments that bundled in end-of-life care. The actual problem is lonely death — if they go into a hospital before that and pass away there, the room stays clean.
    225AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:14
    Re: #215
    Exactly this. In an era with this many singles, I don't want people who can't think that far ahead running apartment businesses.
    239AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:17
    Re: #215
    Then just rent only to elderly people who have a voluntary guardianship contract in place — just a ¥50,000–100,000/month subscription fee, lol 😁
    262AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:23
    Re: #215
    That already exists normally — it's called "service-attached rental housing for the elderly."

    And if lonely death alone is the concern, there are services that monitor your electricity usage too. Plus the post office has people who check in on you about once a week — those only cost a few thousand yen a month.
    217AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:13
    There must be plenty of well-off elderly single men out there — why doesn't anyone build rentals for them?
    222AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:14
    Re: #217
    When you factor in the risk of cleanup afterward and rent going unpaid, of course landlords balk.
    226AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:14
    Re: #217
    People like that just buy a house or condo even as singles
    227AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:15
    Re: #217
    People with money go into high-end nursing homes. And when I say "nursing home," I mean facilities with spacious private rooms and doctors and nurses on-site 24/7.
    244AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:19
    Re: #240
    Nah, what's the point of leaving behind a house and land after you die when you're single anyway?
    251AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:21
    Re: #244
    There's no point leaving money behind either. At least a house lets you live comfortably while you're alive.
    258AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:23
    Re: #251
    Why not just go with a nursing home? Care and meals are included.
    263AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:24
    Re: #258
    Sure, if you can find one that'll actually take you.
    270AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:25
    Re: #258
    Not sure what kind of nursing home you're picturing, but most places that'll take you while you're still healthy will kick you out once you develop dementia, become bedridden, or need serious full-time care.
    257AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:22
    Guess the homeowner vs. renter debate is settled for now, huh?
    264AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:24
    Re: #257
    Sure, if your mortgage is fully paid off, but if you're still paying it down the real hell is still ahead of you, right?
    266AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:25
    Re: #257
    Both have their pros and cons.
    284AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:28
    Re: #257
    The answer's already in: both the homeowner camp and the renter camp are losers.

    A house isn't something you rent or buy — the real winners are the ones who just get one handed to them. If your own parents don't have one, get it from your spouse's parents instead (lol)
    281AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:27
    Re: #270
    Do they even have somewhere to go once they're kicked out? That's just heartless.
    294AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:29
    Re: #281
    It's a business. You wouldn't want to pay out of pocket to take care of some random stranger's elderly relative either, right? Landlords and nursing home operators are the same way.
    298AnonymousSep 13, 2026 00:30
    Re: #281
    For-profit companies just need to turn a profit — what happens to the person afterward isn't their problem.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Behind the difficulty elderly singles face in renting is landlords’ reluctance over the cost of restoring a unit after a lonely death and the risk of unpaid rent. The government has set up a safety-net housing program for “those requiring housing assistance,” but in practice both public awareness and the supply of such housing remain insufficient. The thread split over whether to view this as “a rational risk judgment by landlords” or as “de facto exclusion of the elderly.” Municipal services that bundle welfare check-ins with coverage for clearing out belongings after death (such as the Nakano Ward example) came up as a possible solution, but this kind of program hasn’t spread nationwide, and the disparity in support between municipalities is something the original report alone doesn’t convey well. There were also claims that public housing “isn’t working,” but that reflects a regional issue where aging housing complexes can’t be rebuilt and their tenant base has become fixed in place — it isn’t simply a flaw in the system itself. The discussion also expanded into the homeowner-versus-renter debate, but it’s worth noting that this is a separate issue from the core problem at hand: elderly singles being refused rental housing.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “‘Rejected Even While Employed With Income’: Singles Facing Situation Where They Can’t Rent Housing.”