Category: Society

  • Ghanaian Man on Dialysis Loses Final Appeal for Welfare Benefits — Supreme Court Chief Justice Dissents

    A 36-year-old Ghanaian national living in Chiba City receives dialysis three times a week for chronic kidney failure, but his application for welfare benefits was rejected on the grounds of his foreign nationality. He sued, arguing the rejection was unlawful, but the Supreme Court dismissed his appeal on the 9th, finalizing the lower courts’ rulings that the rejection was lawful. The decision was a 3-to-1 majority among the four justices, with Presiding Justice Mamoru Miura alone dissenting, arguing that ‘the provision of the Public Assistance Act limiting recipients to Japanese nationals violates the Constitution’s guarantees of the right to life and equality under the law, and is therefore invalid.’ On 5channel, voices calling it ‘just common sense that foreigners can’t get welfare’ clashed with others saying ‘this is inhumane’ or ‘just deport him,’ while users also traded information about how the man came to Japan and how his residence status changed over time.

    Ghanaian Man’s Bid for Welfare Amid Serious Illness Finally Rejected — Supreme Court Dismisses Appeal, Chief Justice Dissents: “Severely Inhumane”: Tokyo Shimbun Digital

    September 11, 2026, 19:03

    Siaw Johnson Kwaku (36), a Ghanaian national living in Chiba City who receives dialysis for chronic kidney failure, sued after his welfare application was rejected on the grounds of his foreign nationality, arguing the rejection was unlawful. The Second Petty Bench of the Supreme Court (Presiding Justice Mamoru Miura) has decided to dismiss Johnson’s appeal, dated the 9th. This finalizes the lower courts’ rulings that the rejection was lawful.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:15
    That's the 'political question doctrine' (tōchi kōi ron) at work right there
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:17
    Re: #3
    That's not right
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:16
    Re: #1
    Hey judge, why don't YOU pay for it out of your own pocket
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:17
    Then why don't YOU chip in for him, huh
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:17
    It's sad, so just send him home already
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:18
    If this gets approved, sick poor people from all over the world will flock to Japan
    66AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:26
    Re: #12
    Seriously, seriously.
    If we hand out welfare and health insurance to foreigners too freely, Japan will just get walked all over
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:19
    Sending him back to Ghana really is the best option, isn't it
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:19
    Re: #9
    The judiciary just can't make political calls like that, that's the thing
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:20
    It's just common sense that foreign nationals can't get welfare
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:20
    Does this idiot chief justice think even seriously ill patients outside Japan have a 'right to life' too? (lol)
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:26
    Aren't there foreigners who actually do receive welfare?
    Or is it literally zero people?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:27
    Re: #62
    There are — it's technically unconstitutional, but municipalities pay it out at their own discretion
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:27
    The Supreme Court has ruled that 'foreign nationals are not covered by the Public Assistance Act itself, and are only protected as a matter of administrative measures.'

    This confirms that even foreign permanent residents have no 'legal right' to receive welfare.
    117AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:32
    Re: #77
    Is this 'administrative measure' the one based on that single flimsy notice some Health Ministry bureau chief sent out ages and ages ago?
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:31
    Re: #1
    Just mark an X against every single Supreme Court justice (in the judicial review referendum) and you'll be right
    131AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:34
    >This violates the constitutional guarantees of the right to life and equality under the law, making it invalid

    [Article 25 of the Constitution of Japan]
    ①All people shall have the right to maintain the minimum standards of wholesome and cultured living

    It says 'ALL PEOPLE'! Foreigners aren't included!
    If you let foreigners in, Japan would have to guarantee living standards for every single human being on Earth!
    145AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:36
    Re: #131
    He's basically saying that article itself violates the Constitution
    I honestly don't get that logic
    143AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:36
    According to the ruling, Johnson developed chronic kidney failure after coming to Japan in 2015. He receives dialysis three times a week. His residence status is for medical treatment purposes, so he isn't allowed to work. He applied for welfare in Chiba City in 2021, but it was rejected.

    He came on a medical-treatment visa —
    applying for welfare ("namapo") at that point is already sketchy, isn't it?
    If this gets approved, Japan falls apart
    180AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:39
    Re: #143
    That's wrong.
    He originally came on a student visa.
    Came to Japan in 2015, got sick in 2019, and switched status then.
    He's kind of a pitiable case, honestly.

    Johnson came to Japan in 2015 on a student visa. While attending a Japanese language school in Tokyo, he worked part-time within the limits allowed under a student visa. After graduating, he quickly landed a job, had his status changed to one permitting employment, and worked full-time at a company.

    However, in 2019 he developed chronic kidney failure and needed dialysis three times a week. He was let go from the company, and his status was switched to a "medical stay" visa for receiving treatment, which prohibits working.
    236AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:44
    Re: #180
    It's sad, but 'he got sick in Japan' doesn't automatically mean Japan has to take care of him
    254AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:46
    Re: #180
    Just because he got sick after arriving doesn't mean there's any reason he can't go back to his home country
    167AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:38
    It is inhumane though, isn't it.
    226AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:43
    I'm a softy, so depending on what kind of guy he is, I wouldn't mind helping him out
    234AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:44
    So it's confirmed the Ghanaian man's welfare claim is denied for good, but
    does that mean the chief justice alone was in favor of granting it?
    I don't really get it
    250AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:46
    Re: #234
    The court rejected it 3-to-1 by majority vote,
    and the one justice who got outvoted issued his personal opinion.

    Note: it carries no legal force
    259AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:46
    If this gets approved,
    sick people from all over the world will hide their illness, come to Japan,
    and apply for welfare
    269AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:47
    Re: #259
    If you're a developed country, you should be able to look after that much!

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    On paper, the Public Assistance Act applies to “citizens,” and Supreme Court precedent has long held that payments to foreign nationals aren’t a legal right but merely a de facto measure left to administrative discretion. This ruling follows that same framework, with the majority opinion reaffirming it. Presiding Justice Miura’s dissent, meanwhile, doesn’t overturn the outcome and carries no binding force, but it drew attention as unusual for using the strong phrase “severely inhumane.” Some posts in the thread mistakenly read “a dissent was issued” as meaning welfare had been granted, but in fact the rejection is final and the dissent remains a minority view. It’s also worth noting — as commenters corrected mid-thread — that the man originally came to Japan on a student visa and was working, only losing his income after falling ill post-arrival; this was not a case of entering the country to exploit the system.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Express+) thread “Ghanaian Man’s Bid for Welfare Amid Serious Illness Finally Rejected — Supreme Court Dismisses Appeal, Chief Justice Dissents: “Severely Inhumane”.”

  • Tesla Unveils Handle- and Pedal-less Driverless Taxi ‘Cybercab’ in Japan for First Time — Domestic Launch Date Still Unknown

    Tesla has unveiled its purpose-built driverless taxi, the “Cybercab,” in Japan for the first time. The vehicle has no driver’s seat, steering wheel, or pedals, and has already begun operating in parts of Texas this month, though a timeline for Japanese service remains undecided. Thread reactions ranged widely — from safety concerns about how to stop the car in an emergency, to comments citing Waymo’s track record and arguing it’s “already safer than human drivers,” to skepticism about whether the technology has been proven on Japan’s narrow roads and in snowy conditions. Many also wondered whether fares would actually be cheaper, and voiced regulatory skepticism that Japan’s transport ministry would ever approve it.

    Sept 11 (Fri), 11:14 AM JST

    Yomiuri Shimbun Online

    U.S. electric vehicle giant Tesla unveiled its purpose-built driverless taxi, the “Cybercab,” in Japan on the 11th. The vehicle has no driver’s seat, steering wheel, or pedals. Service began in parts of Texas this month, but domestic operation in Japan remains undecided for now.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:31
    Is there some kind of emergency stop button passengers can hit if things go wrong?
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:02
    Re: #3
    Adding something like that would be dangerous — humans are the most dangerous part of the equation.
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:31
    Reminds me of Total Recall.
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:40
    Re: #4
    >Reminds me of Total Recall.



    Now I want to rewatch Total Recall.

    It's on U-NEXT lol
    Gonna start with the 1990 Schwarzenegger one.


    Thanks for the reminder (a pun: writing it "arigaton" using the kanji for "ton," i.e. "thanks a ton").
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:46
    Re: #23
    Is there one that's different too — the sign-language version or something? I'd want to watch it if it's on Netflix.
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:31
    What happens if it starts acting weird or there's an emergency?
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:04
    Re: #5
    Hit the self-destruct switch.
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:34
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:57
    Re: #11
    The logo looks like the Cyberpunk 2077 logo.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:40
    I wonder what happens with these things if there's a malfunction or power loss — does it force a stop and unlock the doors automatically?
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:41
    Japanese automakers are 10 years behind.
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:30
    Re: #24
    This car uses a rare-earth-free motor that even Japan hasn't managed to build yet.

    "Completely rare-earth-free" motor — its true value lies in escaping China-dependent supply chains, Chinese media reports
    https://www.recordchina.co.jp/b992150-s25-c20-d0193.html
    > Regarding the new "completely rare-earth-free" motor Tesla announced, the report says its real value isn't a technical leap forward but the added freedom it gives vehicle design and the shift away from dependence on China-centered supply chains.
    116AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:18
    Re: #24
    Could they build this even with a 10-year head start? Not happening even in 100 years, lol
    210AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:40
    Re: #24
    There was some YouTube video of Nissan doing something with generative AI — curious what that actually amounts to in practice.

    But since it's not driving on public roads without a person aboard, Japan being 10 years behind doesn't change.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:42
    If it goes haywire, how the hell are you supposed to stop it?
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:41
    Re: #26
    It's Level 4, so "brace yourself."

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BynF9w6CUAIR6o9.jpg
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:56
    Re: #1
    This is definitely gonna screw something up, lol
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:57
    If you keep rejecting stuff like this you just get left behind by progress — the backlash here is brutal though.
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:02
    Stuff like this — just let Toyota's Woven City go wild with it.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:05
    Re: #46
    I'm not taking that risk — you take it instead.
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:17
    It doesn't need to be a luxury car — just hurry up and make self-driving cars for the elderly. Limiting it to certain areas is fine. It'd be way safer than having old folks drive themselves.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:20
    Re: #60
    Even at this limited-operation stage, it's already safer than most drivers on Earth. Waymo alone has driven over 3 billion km with a lower accident rate than humans.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:21
    Re: #61
    Does it have a track record on roads like Japan's — narrow, winding streets, roads where the lane paint has half worn away, snow-covered roads, that kind of thing?
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:23
    Re: #61
    They say its accident rate is lower than humans', but I wonder how that holds up once you exclude high-risk groups like the elderly and young drivers, and compare it against middle-aged men or professional taxi drivers instead.
    85AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:41
    Since there's no driver, does that mean the fare's cheaper?
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:43
    Re: #85
    It's not in this article, but apparently two taxi companies are involved, so… read between the lines.
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:47
    Re: #85
    If they did that right now it'd wreck the market and taxi drivers would come after them with torches. They'll probably price it just cheap enough that skipping the tip on a rideshare feels like the better deal.
    129AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:38
    Re: #85
    Priced high because it's scarce.
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:07
    It's already reached a level several times safer than human driving. Feels like this could spread in no time.
    111AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:10
    Re: #107
    If it could do fully autonomous driving on the highway alone, I might buy it even at a high price. My Nissan Note's ProPilot sometimes tries to veer off in a weird direction and freaks me out — and it just gives up the moment the rain gets heavy.
    128AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:37
    Re: #107
    But it's gonna be pricey thanks to Trump's tariffs, lol
    120AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:24
    What happens if it gets flooded out in an underpass?
    122AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:28
    Re: #120
    At that point it's the same as any car — the person inside just gets out, no?
    123AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:32
    Re: #120
    It's not gonna drive into a flooded underpass in the first place, lol
    174AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:58
    They should just run a trial in Japan too — somewhere with relatively mild weather and wide roads.
    179AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:02
    Re: #174
    There's already a bus trial running — fixed route though.
    203AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:33
    Re: #174
    You need the law in place before you can even run a trial. Scrambling to react after an accident's already happened is a foolish approach. If it's genuinely too hard to anticipate, that's one thing, but everyone knows tragic fatal accidents are inevitable as long as cars are on the road, so the response needs to be worked out in advance.
    187AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:15
    Won't happen in Japan — the transport ministry will never approve it.
    188AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:16
    Re: #187
    Won't happen in Japan — no country in the world has approved Tesla's self-driving taxi. Even in the U.S. it's only allowed in one limited part of Texas.
    198AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:30
    Re: #187
    So tell me which country actually has approved it, then?

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The Cybercab is a fully driverless, purpose-built vehicle that began operating in parts of Austin, Texas in September 2026; the timing and areas for Japanese service remain undecided. In the debate over self-driving taxis, Waymo has logged over 3 billion km on public roads with a lower accident rate as its track record — though it’s easy to overlook that the numbers look very different depending on whether they’re compared against all drivers or against a narrower age bracket. Since operation in Japan hinges on new legislation and approval from the transport ministry, Tesla’s U.S. track record won’t necessarily speed up domestic rollout. The thread shows the claim that it’s “safer than humans” sitting alongside cautious voices noting that “its performance on Japan’s narrow roads and in snow remains unproven” — a reminder that how mature the technology is and how well it adapts to legal systems and local conditions are two separate questions.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[EV] Tesla Unveils Handle- and Pedal-less Driverless Taxi “Cybercab” in Japan for First Time — Domestic Operation Timing Still Undecided.”

  • Sex acts at the station and in a patrol car during shift — two Hyogo police officers docked pay

    The Hyogo Prefectural Police announced that it disciplined two officers, a man and a woman, with pay cuts for dereliction of duty after they engaged in sexual acts inside the police station and in a patrol car while on duty. According to ABC News, the male senior patrolman is married, and the matter came to light after his wife discovered his relationship with the female officer, prompting him to report it to his superiors himself. Both are said to have admitted the facts and expressed remorse. On 5ch’s “Breaking News Plus” board, reactions ranged from sarcasm about Hyogo police’s repeated scandals, to debate over whether the punishment fit the offense, to jokes tying the incident to Japan’s declining birthrate.

    Sex acts at the station and in a patrol car during work hours — two Hyogo police officers docked pay – ABC News

    Delivered 09/11 16:07

    The Hyogo Prefectural Police disciplined two officers, a man and a woman, with pay cuts for dereliction of duty after they engaged in sexual acts inside the police station and in a patrol car while on duty.

    Source: asahi.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:46
    Damn, no charges again
    Ahhh, coming~~~ (mocking moan, riffing on the sexual nature of the case)
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:46
    What crime is that even? Let people date freely.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:56
    Re: #4
    Isn't it "dereliction of duty" or something like that?
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:48
    Well, it's Hyogo police, so…
    Well, it's Kanagawa police, so…
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:49
    This kind of cop story comes up pretty regularly.
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:51
    This always seems to be Hyogo.
    What's going on over there?
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:52
    "Public facilities aren't love hotels, you know?!"

    → then they go to an actual love hotel while on duty

    These guys make horny dogs look tame lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:52
    What the boss is really thinking

    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    >>The male senior patrolman was married, and it came to light after his wife found out about his affair with the female officer, prompting him to report the whole thing to his superior himself.

    Getting caught by your boss beats having to face your wife any day.
    187AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:51
    Re: #32
    Maybe his wife's an ex-cop too and just outranks him in martial arts.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    Re: #1

    > The two have reportedly admitted to the facts and expressed remorse.
    That got me for some reason, lol.
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    He self-reported and spilled the details of what they actually did?
    Was everyone around them just pretending not to notice?
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:53
    Cops, the Self-Defense Forces, any rank-based hierarchy — stuff like this happens a lot in those.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:54
    It was during work hours, right?
    They should just fire them.
    Why do we keep paying taxes to civil servants who aren't doing their jobs?
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:56
    Re: #38
    People should protest hard and directly, like they're verbally tearing them apart.
    Every citizen has that right — these two are way too full of themselves.
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:54
    Someone probably filmed it on their phone and reported it?
    In that case, was it a whistleblower or a hidden-camera situation?
    125AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:20
    Re: #39
    I bet the people around them already knew.
    You can just tell from the vibe, right?
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:57
    In an age of declining birthrates, civil servants should be the ones setting an example.
    Cut them some slack.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:59
    Re: #50
    Go make babies with your own wife instead.
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:57
    They're both single people in their 20s, right?
    Then just look the other way a little, don't be so uptight about it.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:00
    Re: #54
    Actually read post 1.
    The guy is married.
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:03
    Must be nice being a cop, so much free time.
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:08
    Re: #74
    Yeah, it's cushy, anyone can become one these days, and the pay's good too.
    But even giving them every benefit of the doubt, getting paid to have sex on the job is unforgivable 👹
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:03
    If two cops marry each other their combined household income tops ¥10 million a year.
    Total winners.
    81AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:05
    Re: #75
    These days a household income of ¥10 million
    is only worth what ¥5 million used to be back in the day (lol)
    200AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:08
    Good for the birthrate, I guess, but do it at a hotel on your day off.
    202AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:10
    Re: #200
    Fixing the birthrate means couples having two or more kids each — knocking up some unmarried woman once isn't going to turn that around.

    Background and key points of this story

    Disciplinary action against police officers is a matter of internal conduct rules, separate from criminal punishment — and in this case too, the grounds for discipline weren’t the sexual acts themselves but the fact that the officers neglected their duties while on shift (a violation of their obligation to devote themselves to their work). Because one of the two was married, the case drew attention as an “affair,” but as far as reported, the affair itself wasn’t the reason for the punishment. On the thread, the sense that Hyogo police scandals keep making headlines drew a pile of sarcasm, while opinions split between a more forgiving “if they were both single it’d be one thing” camp and an “it’s out of the question since they were on duty” camp. The fact that the case came to light not through an internal report but because a spouse noticed also left posters wondering how many similar cases never make it into the open.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Sex acts at the station and in a patrol car during work hours — two Hyogo police officers docked pay.”

  • Mercari Tests ‘Private Listing’ Feature — 5ch Reacts: ‘Feels Like a Black Market’

    On September 11, Mercari began trial-testing a “private listing” feature for select users, allowing only people who know a product page’s URL to view and purchase it. It’s available to sellers at level 4 or higher who have completed identity verification, and can only be set when creating a new listing priced at 9,999 yen or under. Because the item won’t appear in search results, recommendations, or the seller’s profile, reactions on social media have been split — some pointed to the benefit of making it easier to sell to a specific buyer via “reserved” listings, while others raised concerns that the anonymity could be exploited for shady deals or money laundering. Opinion was similarly divided on 5ch.

    As of September 11, Mercari is trial-testing a “private product listing” feature for some users. In response, voices on social media (X) have raised concerns about potential misuse.

    Private listings are a way of selling items where only users who know the product page’s URL can view and purchase it. Unlike regular listings, the item will not appear in search results, the “recommended” section, the seller’s profile, or anywhere else.

    It’s available to sellers at level 4 or higher who have completed “Easy Identity Verification via App.” It can be set from the private-listing option under detailed settings when creating a new listing priced at 9,999 yen or under. Listings cannot be switched back to regular listings once set as private.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:18
    This is just going to make reselling even easier.
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:25
    So like those 'reserved for Mr./Ms. So-and-so' listings?
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:27
    This really does feel like a black market.
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:27
    What's with this whitelist approach?
    Sounds like it's gonna turn into some underground auction…

    Since they're already doing identity verification, wouldn't a blacklist system make more sense —
    · only verified users can view it
    · block undesirable buyers from viewing
    That's the normal way to do this.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:19
    Re: #1
    They really get their users
    Everyone's laundering money after all
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:22
    Re: #6
    That's not the point — this just makes 'reserved' listings actually work.
    Before, even if you wrote 'reserved,' other people could still buy it.
    With this feature, that won't be possible anymore.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:23
    Re: #17
    Read it properly —
    it won't show up in search either.
    194AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:57
    Re: #17
    Even with 'reserved' listings, you'd share the URL in the comments anyway,
    so nothing really changes in the end.
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:20
    Some people are calling Mercari basically organized crime, but that's a bit much.
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:24
    Re: #8
    I think they mean it in the literal, original sense of the word.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:23
    Re: #1
    Fine, it can't be seen by others, but
    how are they going to weed out illegal listings and activity?
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:24
    Re: #25
    You really think Mercari would bother doing that?
    Everyone already learned that lesson from the Chiikawa incident.
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:23
    I sell a lot on Mercari, and this feature just sounds like a hassle.
    They basically want us to use it for 'reserved for so-and-so' listings, right?
    Annoying.
    151AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:44
    Re: #29
    They could've just built in a passkey system instead,
    but no, it's just a dedicated URL… come on.
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:24
    >Private listings let only users who know the product page URL view and buy the item
    >Unlike regular listings, the item won't appear in search results, the 'recommended' section, or the seller's profile

    This is a straight-up black market for organized crime and shady dealings — basically the dark web.

    Seriously, regulate Mercari, Yahoo Auctions, Rakuten, all of them, already.
    Police, do your job, seriously.
    This is nothing but a breeding ground for money laundering and tax evasion.
    Enough already — Nagatacho and Kasumigaseki too (Japan's political and bureaucratic centers).
    Do your jobs, regulate this.
    245AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:13
    Re: #35
    Why do you think they bring in retired bureaucrats (amakudari) in the first place?
    Nobody's expecting actual competence from officials anyway.
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:28
    It's capped at 9,999 yen, but people will probably just sell 'I'll tell you the URL' as a separate high-priced listing anyway.
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:31
    Re: #57
    Wouldn't it just be more convenient to do that through other social media instead?
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:32
    (;゚Д゚) Turns out you don't even need Tor ('the onion') anymore to deal weapons, drugs, and human trafficking lol
    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:33
    Re: #77
    Well, Tor was made in the US, so deals routed through it are basically all being monitored anyway.
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:32
    They're not about to give up those fat fees from stolen-goods resales and money laundering!
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:35
    Re: #79
    Good or bad aside, their attitude is basically 'never leave money on the table.'
    Gotta admit, that hustle is impressive lol
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:34
    If this feature had existed, the stolen Chiikawa merch resale scandal probably wouldn't have gotten caught.
    103AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:35
    Re: #98
    'Chinkawa'? Is that even a thing? (mangling the character name Chiikawa as a joke)
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:35
    *This listing is reserved exclusively for Lord Frieza. We kindly ask that no one else attempt to purchase it. (joking with a Dragon Ball villain's name)
    119AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:37
    Re: #107
    Beerus, God of Destruction, has purchased this item.
    Please confirm and proceed with the transaction. (continuing the Dragon Ball joke)
    117AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:37
    Openly touting shady deals like this —
    are these guys even a legitimate company?
    130AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:38
    Re: #117
    This is the same company that let people list actual cash for sale
    until it got called out on social media and the police had to step in.
    (Criminals were using it for money laundering.)
    147AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:43
    So is it actually okay to post that URL on social media outside of Mercari?
    152AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:44
    Re: #147
    Should be fine, I'd think.
    149AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:43
    More importantly, stop holding onto account info after people close their accounts. You do delete payment info, right? What about identity verification info?

    Is there even a legal basis for non-financial companies to retain identity verification data?
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:45
    Re: #149
    Isn't deletion basically impossible because of tax office audits?
    182AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:54
    Re: #149
    Just request that they delete your own personal data yourself.
    If it's the person themselves asking, it's not mandatory, but it does create an obligation to make an effort (Article 22 of Japan's Act on the Protection of Personal Information).
    If they refuse, press them for a reason.
    179AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:52
    If Mercari's private listings don't have a way to send the URL to just one specific person, it feels half-baked.
    In the end, if you can already contact the buyer directly via LINE or whatever, you'll just think, 'Why not skip Mercari entirely and do cash-on-delivery?'
    No fees taken that way either.
    183AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:54
    Re: #179
    You lose anonymous transactions that way.
    The biggest advantage of Mercari's shipping service is that it's anonymous — you can trade without either side knowing the other's name or address.
    187AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:56
    Re: #179
    Which is exactly why the only uses left are things like sellers who can't process credit cards,
    or deals where you deliberately want a third party in the middle —
    basically nothing but shady use cases, and that's apparently the appeal lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mercari’s new “private listing” is a trial feature limited to sellers at level 4 or higher who have completed identity verification, and it can only be set on new listings priced at 9,999 yen or under. Sellers have long used labels like “reserved for Mr./Ms. So-and-so” to sell to a specific buyer, but since those listings still showed up in search and on the seller’s page, there was a loophole letting anyone buy them anyway. This new feature closes that loophole — but because anyone who has the URL can still buy the item, thread posters have argued that a “blacklist” system limited to verified users would make more sense. There’s also lingering wariness given the past incident where stolen Chiikawa merchandise was resold for cash, raising concern that listings hidden from search could make it easier for such deals to spread. That said, no actual misuse has been confirmed so far — it’s worth noting this feature is still only in trial testing.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Mercari] Trial Launch of ‘Private Listing’ Feature Viewable Only to Those Who Know the URL — Misuse Concerns Raised“.

  • Elderly Renters Hit a Wall With Guarantor Companies — Some Forced Out; 5ch: ‘Better to Bulldoze It and Make It a Parking Lot’

    Renters in their 50s can rack up 100 rejections before finding a place — a news story on the harsh reality of apartment hunting for older people sparked a reaction on 5ch. In recent years, rental contracts have come to rely on screening by guarantor companies rather than a personal co-signer, and elderly or unattached single renters are often screened out at this stage. Thread posters shared cases of tenants being told to vacate because they couldn’t line up the co-signers a guarantor company required, and stories of landlords demolishing aging buildings and turning them into parking lots to avoid the risk of a lonely death on the premises. Many recommended UR public housing as an alternative. Whether there’s any legal check on refusing tenants purely because of their age also became a point of debate.

    “Turning 50 without owning a home — how long can you keep renting?” Some elderly apartment hunters face “100 rejections”… Is refusing tenants because of their age even legal?

    9/11 (Fri) 10:00 JST

    Lawyer JP News

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:33
    At my apartment building, we made a guarantor company mandatory for anyone signing a lease, and a few elderly tenants ended up contacting us asking to be let out of their lease because they couldn't line up the two co-signers the guarantor company required.
    Apparently that tenant is arguing "it's ridiculous that the guarantor company demands co-signers too," but that's just the guarantor company's policy, so nothing can be done about it.
    Anyway, they packed up and moved out.
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:39
    Re: #25
    Wait, something doesn't add up here.
    "Made the guarantor company mandatory and had them sign" → but they already signed the lease, so why file to vacate over not having co-signers??
    "A guarantor company is for people who can't secure a co-signer" → but then it demands a co-signer anyway?
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:40
    Re: #25
    They probably just wanted a tidy excuse to push the old folks out.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:40
    Do you get turned away even from public housing like UR?
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:42
    Re: #45
    Don't you have to hand over a lump sum up front to move into UR housing? Poor people don't have that kind of money.
    You can get into city- or prefecture-run public housing, but those places tend to have long waiting lists.
    69AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:45
    I'm a single guy pushing 50, and I don't plan on buying a house myself, but friends my age — married and single alike — have been buying homes the last few years.
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:51
    Re: #69
    Rates are shooting up though — are they okay carrying a mortgage? Or did they just buy outright in cash?
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:53
    Re: #69
    If you're in your 40s, that's probably your last shot. Get much older and you won't be able to get a mortgage at all.
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:47
    It all comes down to the guarantor. Even if you're old or unemployed, as long as you've got a guarantor, realtors will rent to you right away.
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:48
    Re: #78
    These days it's mostly guarantor companies now, not personal guarantors.
    95AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:52
    Re: #79
    True. If a personal guarantor were still mandatory, Japan would be full of homeless people.
    114AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:55
    Re: #79
    On top of the guarantor company contract, you're sometimes also required to have a separate personal guarantor/next-of-kin contact.
    116AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:56
    Re: #45
    For UR housing you need a monthly income at least 4 times the rent, or savings worth 100 times the rent.
    The savings can just be "parked" money for the check, but the real question is whether you can scrape together that much cash even for a moment.
    UR isn't really built for poor people.
    127AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:58
    Re: #116
    And there's also a full year's rent paid up front, right? If you can put together 15 months' worth of rent — that plus a 3-month deposit — you could get in pretty easily. You do still need an emergency contact, though.

    That emergency contact requirement is a real headache for people with no family.
    There are shady "stand-in emergency contact" services out there, but you're not allowed to have them pose as relatives — apparently they'll only pretend to be an acquaintance at most.
    150AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:02
    Re: #127
    An emergency contact can just be an acquaintance or friend, so you have no choice but to ask someone.
    175AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:06
    Re: #127
    If the contact has a different surname and no blood relation, they'll definitely get called to verify — because that contact might turn out to be useless when it actually matters.
    120AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:57
    We won't rent to them.
    If it's just going to end up all elderly tenants, someone dies alone, and the unit becomes a stigmatized "incident property," we'd rather tear it down and turn it into a parking lot.
    And honestly, more and more landlords are doing exactly that these days.
    144AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:01
    Re: #120
    Exactly this. Better to clear the lot and turn it into a monthly parking lot.
    165AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:04
    Re: #120
    Same here — we had the tenants move out, tore the building down, and made it a parking lot. There aren't many parking lots nearby, so it filled up instantly.
    254AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:22
    Re: #120
    That's probably the sound call. Fine for a brand-new building, but for a place that's decades old, turning it into a parking lot gives more stable profit — and it never becomes a stigmatized property either.
    126AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:58
    Guess I'll lock in a rental while I'm still in my 50s and just hang on to it. Worst case I buy a used condo, but I've only got about 60 million yen in financial assets. UR housing's probably the realistic option, huh.
    204AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:12
    Re: #126
    I'm in about the same boat, and I've pretty much decided on UR housing — like 90% sure.
    If some amazingly cheap used place came up that I could buy outright, sure, I'd consider it, but realistically that's not a likely option.
    129AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:58
    Isn't there some way to get a stigmatized property for free rent? If a lonely death is basically expected going in, there ought to be a rental service built around that from the start.
    On the hardware side, maybe construction methods that make it easy to deal with a decomposed body.
    163AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:03
    Re: #129
    Even handed over as-is, a stigmatized property still comes with property tax and future demolition costs. It can't really be free.
    179AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:07
    Re: #129
    For a stigmatized property where someone with no family died alone, even the owner can't just go in and clear out the belongings on their own — so you can't even re-rent it. You can't even get the specialized cleaning crew in.
    135AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:00
    There's no other lending scheme out there with rates as low as a home mortgage. On top of that, it even qualifies for a tax deduction. People who are in their 50s now and missed out on that when they were young are definitely on the losing end — 20 years ago, home prices were also at rock bottom.
    197AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:10
    Re: #135
    Huh, is that right. Guess I might be one of the winners then — I took out a 20-year variable-rate mortgage 20 years ago.
    208AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:12
    Re: #135
    If you were investing too, you're not exactly a loser either lol
    190AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:09
    You could prevent lonely deaths just by putting a sensor in the toilet and checking in if there's no activity for a day — why doesn't anyone do that?
    202AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:11
    Re: #190
    At the end of the day, the real problem is dealing with things after someone dies. Landlords don't want to handle the cleanup — and the property value drops too.
    213AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:14
    Re: #190
    If you tack that cost onto the rent and charge elderly tenants more for it, you get branded as discriminatory and torn apart for it — so nobody does it.
    205AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:12
    The house itself, well, my siblings and I can sort out somehow, but what do you even do with things like paintings? Apparently they can be worth a decent amount, but it's not like you can sell them instantly, and if you rush it you'll probably get lowballed.
    224AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:16
    Re: #205
    In my family some of the paintings run into the millions of yen, and my mother's jewelry and kimonos add up to hundreds of millions, but I've got no interest in any of it — figure my brother, or a nephew or niece, can just take it lol
    253AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:22
    By the time the Ice Age generation (Japan's 'employment ice age' cohort, who came of age during the 1990s–2000s hiring crunch) gets old, landlords are going to have no choice but to rent to them.
    263AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:24
    Re: #253
    There's no way lawmakers are going to put legislation like that in place.
    266AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:25
    Re: #253
    Landlords are running a business too — if it's a money-loser, they won't rent it out. They're not running a charity.
    271AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:25
    Re: #253
    Rather than individual landlords, I'd guess big rental-management divisions will end up handling this in bulk. Going forward, the young population is going to keep shrinking fast, but the elderly population isn't shrinking anytime soon — if anything, elderly people with no family are only going to increase. When a big company runs it at scale, it keeps overall costs down, and repairs and day-to-day management get cheaper too.

    Background and Key Issues

    These days, rent guarantees mainly run through guarantor companies rather than a personal co-signer. This shift traces back to a 2020 revision of Japan’s Civil Code that required a personal guarantor’s scope of liability to be spelled out explicitly, which pushed landlords increasingly toward making guarantor companies mandatory. Screening standards vary from company to company, but in practice applicants are often turned down simply for being elderly or low-income. On top of that, when a single elderly tenant dies alone, the landlord is left to handle the practical fallout — sorting through belongings, arranging specialized cleaning, and absorbing the drop in property value — which makes demolishing an aging building and converting it into a parking lot look like the rational choice. At the same time, Japan has no law that explicitly bans refusing tenants on the basis of age alone; the only safeguards are voluntary schemes, such as municipal registries of “housing that won’t refuse elderly tenants.” Some replies in the thread also conflated guarantor companies with emergency contacts — worth noting that the two are actually separate things, a point that’s easy to get confused about.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “‘Turning 50 without owning a home — how long can you keep renting?’ Some elderly apartment hunters face ‘100 rejections’… Is refusing tenants because of their age even legal?”

  • Business Manager Visa Capital Requirement Raised to ¥30 Million — Nepali Curry Shop Owners Face Closure

    Japan’s Immigration Services Agency has raised the capital requirement for the “Business Manager” visa — the residency status foreigners use to start and run companies in Japan — to a new threshold of ¥30 million. Yahoo! News reports that this is hitting cash-strapped sole proprietors hard, including a Nepali restaurateur who has run a curry shop in Tokyo for about nine years and now faces closure because he can’t meet the new requirement; industry watchers predict that as much as 90% of Nepali- and Indian-run curry shops could disappear by 2028. The report sparked a thread on 5ch where some welcomed the tougher rules, while others questioned whether the change actually accomplishes anything, since Chinese-funded companies — which can easily raise ¥30 million — would simply “slip through” the net and be the ones left standing.

    ● The “¥30 million wall” could wipe out authentic curry

    “With the visa requirements getting stricter, I think 90% of the restaurants run by Nepali and Indian people will be gone by 2028. The places where you can get authentic curry for around ¥1,000 will probably disappear.”

    Speaking with a note of regret is Mr. Bista (pseudonym, 35), who hails from Nepal and has run a curry restaurant in Tokyo for about nine years. He now finds himself up against the new “¥30 million in capital” requirement for the “Business Manager” residency status.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:21
    I mean, CoCo Ichi (a mainstream curry chain) is fine by me
    133AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:52
    Re: #4
    It's just retort-pouch curry and frozen fried food though.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:27
    I'd think it'd be way easier to work back in their home country, so why stay in Japan?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:28
    Re: #25
    Well, the average annual income in Nepal is only about ¥500,000.
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:30
    Re: #25
    Because Nepal is one of the poorest countries in the world.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:30
    The old 'shell company' trick is getting shut down too, serves them right.

    They're just trying to become a normal country, yet somehow people still complain.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:33
    I'd also like them to require a Japanese joint guarantor.
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:34
    Re: #61
    That'd be the quickest fix. Make them sign a continuing guarantee, and if anything goes wrong, put full responsibility on that Japanese guarantor and their relatives.
    81AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:39
    Curry shops are supposedly a hotbed for illegal entry, right?
    The reason staff keep changing all the time is apparently because new arrivals keep coming in one after another and
    get sold off as cheap labor, or something like that.
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:41
    Re: #81
    Actually, that 'being sold' part isn't that common.
    Once someone who came over as staff saves up a bit of money, they open their own shop and switch to the side collecting fees for bringing in the next Nepali worker.
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:45
    So there was a loophole to slip through.

    They need to close that and get things back to normal.
    121AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:49
    Re: #101
    Regulating foreigners' condo purchases has been shelved for now…

    Government, LDP hold off on restricting foreign condo purchases, prioritize fact-finding first

    https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOUA030Z70T00C26A6000000/
    115AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:48
    A Chinese business owner I dealt with recently on a work matter brought this up and just casually said, '¥30 million? No problem, I can easily come up with that.'
    120AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:49
    Re: #115
    Those guys are raking it in, I mean that's just normal for them.
    126AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:51
    Tightening the business manager visa does have some effect, but raising the visa renewal fee is completely pointless.

    Companies end up covering part of the fee hike.
    ↓
    Then they use that as an excuse to ask the government for subsidies.

    So it accomplishes nothing at all.
    173AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:04
    Re: #126
    They just brought it in line with other countries. That's literally all it is.
    145AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:56
    The era when they handed out business manager visas to foreigners who couldn't even scrape together ¥30 million — that's the part that was crazy.
    156AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:58
    Re: #145
    Then go raise ¥30 million and go throw it in the Shinano River.
    You can't even manage ¥30 million, can you? lol
    184AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:05
    Personal remittances flowing overseas from immigrants in Japan have topped ¥1 trillion.

    This flow of remittances is also one factor behind the current 'weak yen.'
    192AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:08
    Re: #184
    If some kind of separate foreigner economic zone forms, that'd be unbearable. All the Japanese would end up poor (´・ω・`)
    187AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:06
    Foreign owner, foreign staff,
    and most of the customers are foreign too.
    Japan doesn't need restaurants like that.
    203AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:11
    Re: #187
    At least this weeds out Chinese people without money.
    As for the rest, they can look at how the foreign companies that survive with ¥30 million in capital actually behave, and if it's bad, just amend the law again.
    191AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:07
    No wait, Chinese people are in trouble too — the Chinese government is cracking down hard, so it won't be so easy for them to come to Japan anymore.
    207AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:11
    Re: #191
    If you stir things up like 'Japan's such a great country that all the Chinese will flee here and China will collapse,'
    China will probably just crack down even harder lol
    201AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:10
    Takaichi is living out the whole 'money is everything' philosophy for real. Japanese people without money don't get a second glance either, so of course foreigners without money won't be taken seriously.
    205AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:11
    Rich Chinese people at least aren't going to turn to robbery, so that's fine, isn't it.
    216AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:13
    Re: #205
    People with money can be far worse.
    No thanks to anyone with no respect for the law.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “Business Manager” residency status allows foreigners to start companies in Japan and stay on as their operators, and it has long been criticized for being abused via shell companies with little real substance. The new ¥30 million capital requirement appears aimed at weeding out those hollow shell-company setups, but opinion on 5ch was split. Many users questioned whether the rule would actually work, arguing that it singles out cash-poor operators — like the Nepali and Indian curry shop owners running budget ¥1,000-range restaurants — while well-funded Chinese-backed companies can clear the new bar with ease. Some also claimed that remittances foreign workers send home are contributing to the weak yen, or raised concerns about friction between foreign communities and local residents, but these were speculation within the thread, not facts confirmed by the original article.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “Visa Crackdown Leaves Foreigners Saying ‘Japan’s Hopeless Now’… The Absurdity of Honest Foreigners Getting Pushed Out While Chinese Capital Slips Through.”

  • ‘We Want You Working Until 70,’ Companies Admit — Average Expected Retirement Age 67.9, Oldest Worker 91

    A survey finding that companies expect employees to stay “active” until an average age of 67.9 — with the oldest expected age being 91 — sparked reactions on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. Companies from the transportation and IT services sectors were quoted wanting staff to work “until 75” or “until around 70.” The thread saw plenty of complaints about the system where pay drops sharply after rehiring past retirement age, along with pointed criticism of the mismatch with the pension start age. At the same time, some worried about maintaining physical stamina and motivation for work, while others weighed in on FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) plans for their 40s — the discussion ranged from whether a long working life is even desirable to strategies for building assets.

    ◼ Survey on trends in companies’ expected “active working age”

    When asked up to what age they’d like their own employees to stay active, the overall average came out to 67.9 years old.

    Companies offered comments such as, “If someone is healthy and able to work, we’d like them to work until 75” (transportation/warehousing, Saitama Prefecture) and “In this era of 100-year lifespans, we’d like people to stay active until around 70” (IT services, Fukuoka Prefecture).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:36
    They're not even hiding that they see us as replaceable cogs anymore lol
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:37
    Ah, so they just want to keep using cheap old workers.
    That's straight-up evil.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:37
    Overhaul the retirement system already.
    I don't want to keep working if rehiring means my pay gets slashed.
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:41
    Re: #6
    Exactly this.
    What's the logic in cutting pay for the exact same job?
    And pensions don't start until 65 while retirement age is still stuck at 60.
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:42
    Makes sense since life expectancy keeps rising.
    The pension system was designed around the last 20 years of life, after all.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:43
    Having dealt with Timee (gig-work app) hires at warehouses, I totally get why a seasoned old guy is more reliable than some weird, unmotivated college kid who won't listen to a word you say.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:43
    No no no, I'm working until 50, retiring early, and traveling the world nonstop lol
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    If you're able to work, you should.
    Just at a manageable pace.
    Quit working and you lose your sense of purpose and connection to society — you age fast after that.
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    Re: #1
    Fine if they actually hire you as full staff with annual raises,
    but it's probably contract-worker treatment anyway.
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    My pay drops 30% just for turning 60 — why would that make me want to keep working?
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    Death risk goes up too, you know.
    Do they even pay out condolence money or something?
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    I'd consider it if they restored the pay that gets cut after retirement rehiring.
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:45
    Meanwhile they reject tons of applicants at the resume stage just for their age.
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:45
    So at 60 you're supposed to go find new work doing blue-collar labor?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:46
    If you want us to keep working, don't cut our pay.
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:19
    Re: #34
    They want you to work BECAUSE it's cheap!
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:48
    Newborns dropped 30% in just 10 years.
    Anyone who thinks they'll be able to live off their pension in the future is out of their mind.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:49
    Re: #37
    No point paying into the pension then.
    Better off just saving it yourself.
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:52
    Sure, that's possible if it's not physical labor, but
    pay for data entry, glorified errand-running, gofer work, and professional meeting-attenders should be even lower.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:56
    Re: #50
    This is a country where a 74-year-old woman wearing a hard hat falls to her death doing work at height.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:55
    Retirement age went up to 65, and there's a 62-year-old still working who makes so many mistakes I wonder if dementia is setting in.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:56
    Re: #59
    Might actually be starting for real.
    Maybe suggest they get checked out.
    124AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:29
    Rehiring lets companies push pay down to almost minimum wage.
    Companies are laughing all the way to the bank.
    129AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:31
    Re: #124
    At my company that led to a flood of zero-motivation contract staff, so starting this year they switched to the same pay and performance reviews as full-timers.
    134AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:33
    I'm building up 100 million yen (~$650K USD) and FIRE-ing by my early 40s.
    Can't imagine spending my whole life working.
    181AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:07
    Re: #134
    I'm 58 with over 100 million yen (~$650K USD) in financial assets —
    so tell me how to actually retire.
    153AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:45
    Even now though, the job-hopping age limit hasn't budged from the Showa-era "35."
    The moment you turn 35, job listings crater to less than a tenth of what they were.
    155AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:46
    Re: #153
    This makes no sense to me.
    Once you fall off the track once, there's no way you can survive, right?
    171AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:59
    My spouse and I have 300 million yen (~$2M USD) combined — is it okay for us to FIRE?
    179AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:05
    Re: #171
    Should be fine if you're over 35.
    173AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:00
    I want to quit right now.
    Can't wait for retirement.
    190AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:17
    Re: #173
    What's it feel like spending most of your life at a job like that?
    182AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:10
    Young people today have NISA (Japan's tax-free investment account), a general mood pushing everyone toward investing, and rising interest rates — I'm jealous.
    FIRE-ing in your 40s is realistic now.
    I never invested a yen because there used to be this vibe that investing was somehow shady.
    Started a few years ago, but I doubt I'll get much benefit from compounding at this point.
    198AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:29
    Re: #182
    People who started buying stocks right when an LDP administration change looked like a lock
    probably have a high rate of becoming 'oku-ri-bito' (yen-denominated stock millionaires).
    186AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:14
    I'm unmarried and just finished caring for my parents, so part of me wants to quit and take it easy, but
    looking at Japanese society as a whole, there's no way I actually can lol
    189AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:15
    Re: #186
    > 'just finished'
    Did they pass away?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Under Japan’s Act on Stabilization of Employment of Elderly Persons, companies are legally required to secure employment up to age 65, while ensuring work opportunities up to age 70 remains only a “best-efforts” obligation. It’s easy to misread the survey’s 67.9-year figure as a company promise — it’s merely an “expectation,” not a commitment to better treatment. The thread’s main split was over whether cutting pay after rehiring is justified: some criticized it as a cost-cutting tactic, while others cited real examples of companies restoring full-employee treatment. Many also pointed out the persistent gap between the pension start age (generally 65) and the retirement/rehiring system, fueling frustration that the system hasn’t caught up with people’s willingness to keep working. Meanwhile, thanks to NISA and a changing investment climate, some posters discussed FIRE-ing in their 40s — a value system coexisting in the very same thread alongside the assumption of working long into old age.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “‘We Want You Working Until 70,’ Companies Admit — Average Expected Retirement Age 67.9, Oldest Worker 91.”

  • Households With Kids Average ¥8.57 Million a Year — Yet 60% Say Life Is a Struggle

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Overview of the 2025 Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions,” the average income per household with children was ¥8,573,000 — ¥2,821,000 more than the all-household average of ¥5,752,000. Even so, the finding that 60% of these households still say life is a struggle sparked a stir on 5channel’s News Speed+ board. Threads filled up with talk of the cost-of-living gap between city centers and rural areas, alongside comments from couples earning over ¥20 million a year who say they can “barely manage one child,” and others earning around ¥6 million who say they’ve “never once felt like it was hard.” The discussion laid bare how what really shapes the feeling of hardship isn’t the raw income number, but how the money actually gets spent.

    For households with children, even a decent income can leave little cash on hand at the end of the month — isn’t that a common feeling? When education costs and mortgage payments overlap, it gets hard to see just how much slack is really left in the budget.

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Overview of the 2025 Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions,” the average income per household with children was ¥8,573,000.

    That’s ¥2,821,000 above the all-household average of ¥5,752,000.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:57
    There's no way that's "a struggle," lol — are they messing with us?
    180AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    Re: #7
    That's basically the same as ¥4 million back when the yen was at 80 to the dollar, so of course it's tough.
    265AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:35
    Re: #7
    In central Tokyo, that's pretty rough, honestly.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:58
    Well yeah — if you build a house, lease an Alphard (Toyota's flagship minivan, a status symbol for families) on residual-value credit, send your kids to private school, get everyone an iPhone, eat out constantly, and take a trip once a year, of course life feels tight.
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #13
    Just have your company buy the assets for you.
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    Re: #13
    The people raising kids right now are the same ones glued to social media, so they feel like they'll die if they don't keep up with everyone else.
    181AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    Re: #13
    Families leasing an Alphard on residual credit aren't the ones sending their kids to private school, you know.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:00
    Ours is about ¥6 million. We're in a regional city, but we still own a house, own a car, and put two kids through university on that. What city do you have to live in where earning that much still leaves you struggling?
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Re: #19
    By that math, ours is around ¥4 million, and I still haven't really felt like it's that hard.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #18
    Rural areas and central Tokyo are two different worlds. We're a couple in our early 30s with household income comfortably over ¥20 million, and we're still agonizing over having even a first kid.
    143AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:17
    Rough math puts take-home pay at around ¥6 million? Yeah, that'd be tough.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:00
    Re: #1 Are they mixing up "income" and "gross salary"? Isn't it "gross salary minus deductions = income (take-home)"? If income is ¥8.57 million, wouldn't gross salary be over ¥10 million? Or am I misunderstanding this?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Re: #19
    You've got it right. A gross salary of ¥10 million? You can't even manage one kid on that, lol.

    We're at ¥25 million household income and we're only just now trying for our first.
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #34
    Totally get it. We're at ¥35 million household income and we're still on the fence about having kids at all.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #34
    That's gotta be someone living in the "24 wards," lol (Tokyo actually only has 23 wards — a jab at how out-of-touch that sounds).
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:04
    Guess you really can't have kids without money.

    What's with this "average household income of ¥8.75 million" thing anyway? You don't hit that income level unless both spouses are full-time regular employees.

    This just proves non-regular workers can't have kids.
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #42
    Having kids while working non-regular jobs is basically child abuse at that point, lololol. Unless your parents are loaded, that is.
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #42
    Since it's "income," the article's household gross salary works out to about ¥11 million.

    And even then, one kid is a no-go. It's only once household income clears ¥20 million that having even one kid starts to feel realistic.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    The average income around here (on this board) is like ¥5 million. Keep the lies to a reasonable level or nobody's going to believe you.
    Then again, nobody trusts what gets posted here in the first place.
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Re: #58
    At big Tokyo companies, second-year new hires easily clear ¥7.5 million. If that kind of couple moves in together and marries, household income of ¥18 million by age 28 is totally common.

    Looking at my university friends, this is just normal these days.


    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #82
    The average age on this board is over 50 — there's no way young people are posting here. This is the Ice Age generation (Japan's "employment ice age" cohort who graduated into a brutal job market).
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #82
    Well, only a handful of people actually land jobs at big city-center companies. And raising the kind of high-achieving kid who can pull that off takes money.

    They really do call it "parent gacha" (the idea that which parents you're born to is a random draw that decides your life) for a reason.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    I'm 47, only a high school diploma, no work history, and make ¥2.1 million a year — I can still turn my life around, right?
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #59
    As long as you've got the will to do it.
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:08
    We've made ¥6.5 million since we had our two kids and never once felt like it was a struggle.
    You just live within your means.
    Even without much money, you can still live happily.
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Re: #71
    Bragging about being poor is just sad, cut it out.
    Feel sorry for the kids.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    Re: #88
    After switching jobs and getting promoted I'm at ¥11 million now, but my lifestyle hasn't changed at all from when I made ¥6.5 million.
    You don't need much money to be happy.
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #98
    How old are you?
    I live in Tokyo, I'm 30, and I make ¥14 million.
    Major energy company, TOPIX 100.

    Don't tell me you're in your 40s or older?
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Kids are nothing but risk, honestly.
    People aren't thinking about what happens if the kid has a developmental issue, stops going to school, or becomes a hikikomori (a shut-in who withdraws from society).
    This country is mass-producing shut-ins.
    245AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:32
    Re: #93
    It's almost entirely determined by genetics.
    Some people are just high-risk and some are low-risk.
    260AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:34
    Re: #93
    Makes you wonder why it's actually increasing these days.
    Selection pressure is getting stronger, so you'd think it would naturally be decreasing instead.
    127AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:14
    So what kind of lifestyle would actually NOT feel like a struggle?
    148AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:19
    Re: #127
    Both kids go to private school,
    you keep two safe-choice cars — a Crown and an Alphard —
    the wife works a part-time job for fun earning ¥70,000 a month and keeps all of it as her own spending money,
    the family eats out somewhere non-chain every week,
    and you take economy-class overseas trips for Golden Week, Obon, and New Year's.

    Apparently you can pull all that off on a household income of around ¥25 million.
    155AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    Re: #127
    Having two kids, being able to eat out on weekends, take one family trip a year, build a new home in the greater Tokyo area, buy a new car every five years, put your kids through the private middle-school entrance exam gauntlet, and get them into a private science/engineering university program.
    173AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    Re: #127
    Man, I just want to eat some sashimi…
    216AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    We're at ¥6 million with a stay-at-home wife, two kids, living in Saitama, and we're not struggling that much.
    What are the people who say it's tough actually spending their money on?
    Are both of them hitting the pachinko parlor together or something?
    219AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    Re: #216
    I have known couples where both drink and smoke and then complain they have no money.
    222AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:29
    Re: #216
    At least let your kids sit the middle-school entrance exams.
    224AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:29
    Re: #216
    It's the whole exam-prep obsession, isn't it.
    The world is changing, but people are still clinging to academic credentials.
    Going forward, alumni networks might still matter, but the credential itself won't count for much.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This figure comes from the average in the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s annual Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions, and it’s worth noting that averages like this can be skewed upward by a small number of high-income households. As pointed out in the thread, the “income” referenced here is closer to gross total income before tax and social insurance deductions — it is not take-home pay. That means it isn’t accurate to simply read “¥8.57 million in income” as “comfortable living,” since for households raising children with overlapping education costs and mortgage payments, the statistical figure and the lived experience can diverge sharply. Where opinions split in the thread was over how, even at the same income level, the feeling of “struggling” can vary enormously depending on where you live and how you allocate your spending — comments comparing the high cost of city living against life in rural areas came up again and again. It’s also easy to overlook that, being an average rather than a median, this number may be pulled upward by high-income households.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “👦👧 Average income for households with children is ¥8.573 million, yet 60% say “life is a struggle”.”

  • Inside Tokyo’s Street Prostitution Scene: 40% Are Doing It to Pay Off Host Club Debts

    Around Kabukicho, women continue to line up in gaps between buildings waiting for customers in a practice known as “tachinbo” (street soliciting), and Daily Shincho reports that 40% of them are selling sex to pay off debts to host clubs. On 5channel, users debated a structure that resists simple moralizing: the limits of enforcement, since merely standing there isn’t grounds for arrest; the argument that cracking down on hosts won’t reduce the practice since women have countless other places to funnel money; and the historical point that street soliciting actually took root in the area before host clubs did.

    “A fair-skinned beauty in her 20s heads to a hotel with a middle-aged man…” Lined up in the gaps between walls like merchandise — the reality of “street walkers,” 40% of whom are paying tribute to host clubs

    Fri, Sep 11, 5:58 AM JST

    Daily Shincho

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:29
    Scary without any health screening — they're probably sleeping with filthy creeps too
    168AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:29
    Re: #3
    Even with health checks there's an incubation period, so you'd still catch something.
    Can't believe people do this so casually.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:30
    Why don't they just arrest them?
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:44
    Re: #6
    On what charge?
    They're just standing there.
    Unless it's a sting operation, but…
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:31
    I'm a "weak man" (low-status, incel-adjacent guy), so I just make do with videos.

    I don't even want to bring kids into a world like this anymore, so I have no use for women.
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:55
    Re: #7
    The sex industry just leaves you feeling empty and it's scary health-wise — it's not even that great.

    So that's fine. Don't force it; if you naturally meet someone, just go with the flow. Don't push yourself.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:33
    I want to ask someone who's really into this — if you compared it to the Heart Sutra, which part would it be???
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #12
    "Even the proud do not endure long" (a line from the Tale of the Heike)
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48
    Re: #12
    Gyatei gyatei hara gyatei (a mangling of the Heart Sutra's closing mantra)
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:37
    Wouldn't it be quicker to just abolish host clubs?
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:40
    Re: #25
    Honestly, I don't think it'd make a difference
    Even without host clubs, women would keep selling themselves to fund other things
    There's zero stigma left around prostitution now, and it's become widely known as an easy way to make money. Plus they get protected no matter what happens.
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:45
    Re: #25
    Men's concept cafes, underground boy idols, Johnny's talent — there are plenty of other places women pour big money into, so just getting rid of host clubs alone won't change anything.
    172AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    Re: #25
    Cracking down on malicious hosts is necessary, but on top of that, unless someone actually has academic goals or a career plan, stop sending them to university and just marry them off early — that would cut the numbers.
    If they want to study later, they can always go to college after their kids are grown.
    Pointless credentialism and later marriage are the real root cause.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:43
    Re: #1
    Why not start by officially designating host clubs as antisocial activity and cracking down on them?
    Because that's basically what they are.
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48
    Re: #38
    It's more complicated than that — historically in this area, street soliciting almost certainly became popular before host clubs did, and if anything, the rise in street soliciting is what drove the rise in host clubs.
    So it's questionable whether getting rid of host clubs would actually end this kind of prostitution. But if street soliciting died out, host clubs would definitely die out too — so if you want to hurt the host business, wiping out street soliciting is the surer bet.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:44
    Re: #31
    That's exactly why, unless you crack down on the sellers, street soliciting will never go away.
    Everyone must know this, yet they look the other way. On top of that, plain prostitution gets rebranded as "papa katsu" (sugar-daddy dating) to strip away the stigma — that's basically promoting prostitution.

    This country is finished.
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:53
    Re: #41
    There's also the argument that cracking down wouldn't help much anyway.
    In the end, once people learn to earn money this way,
    it's hard for them to ever take pride in an honest job.
    That's been true from ancient times right up to today.
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:45
    Why are they being talked about like victims?
    They're just earning cash to fund their fandom spending.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:46
    Re: #43
    They are victims — of the men who buy sex from them.
    The host's role is basically a counselor healing the emotional wounds that causes.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:50
    In that case, wouldn't it be simpler if the middle-aged guys just handed the money straight to the hosts?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:54
    Re: #59
    These old guys pay tribute to hostess-club girls AND to the street walkers — double tribute.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:51
    Is being with a host really worth selling yourself over?
    Or is it simply… a matter of low intelligence? (the original phrasing here reads like a typo/IME slip)
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:54
    Re: #63
    Apparently it turns into a genuine psychological dependency.
    So if you had to slap a clinical name on the relationship between these women and their hosts, it'd probably be something like "pseudo-romance addiction."
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:57
    What's the deal with the old guys buying them?
    Why not just go to a regular sex-industry shop?
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:00
    Re: #90
    Being able to see the face directly before buying is probably a big draw.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:01
    Re: #90
    That part's honestly a mystery.
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:05
    Re: #90
    It gets cheaper depending on how you negotiate.

    Speaking from experience.
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:02


    So this is "merchandise" too, huh.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:07
    I'm curious, what do hosts actually spend all that money on?
    Are they paying tribute to someone above them?
    193AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #112
    Say there's a host who calls himself a "100-million-yen player" (i.e., racks up 100 million yen in sales).
    First, the club takes roughly half, leaving 50 million.
    The flashy ones end up paying real taxes too one way or another, so that halves again to 25 million.
    They also drop a fair amount on clothes, housing, and keeping up appearances, and once you factor in how rough things get around age 35, it's actually not that profitable.
    174AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    At its core it's the same as guys who've burned out on online games or take shady "yami baito" gigs (illicit under-the-table jobs) — there's no reason to feel sympathy.
    186AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:34
    Re: #174
    Yeah, well…
    Basically, women obsessed with hosts are just the female version of sex-industry-addicted old men.
    If host-obsessed women are a pitiable group that needs saving, then sex-industry-obsessed old men would equally be a group that needs saving.
    211AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #174
    "Yami baito" jobs are bad because they produce actual victims, but street soliciting doesn't hurt anyone, so isn't it fine?

    The old guy buying sex is happy — he got to sleep with a young woman.
    The street walker is happy — she got to pay tribute to her favorite host.
    Her favorite host is happy — he got a big payday.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The structure in which women sell their bodies to cover living expenses or pay off “uriage” tabs run up at host clubs, centered on Kabukicho, has repeatedly been reported as a social problem since around 2022. Opinions in the thread split over whether regulating host clubs alone could break this cycle: some called for tighter regulation, while skeptics countered that “there are plenty of other outlets to pour money into, like men’s concept cafes or fan/idol spending.” The point that “it’s hard to crack down when someone is just standing there” highlights a practical legal wall — there’s little regulation that directly targets the act of standing on the street itself — a nuance easy to miss from the article alone. The observation that, historically in this area, street soliciting took hold before host clubs did also shows the causal relationship between the two can’t be reduced to a simple narrative.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread ““A fair-skinned beauty in her 20s heads to a hotel with a middle-aged man…” Lined up in the gaps between walls like merchandise… the reality of “street walkers,” 40% of whom are paying tribute to host clubs.”

  • Tokyo Metro Bus Driver Caught Tailgating, Yelled ‘You Idiot!’ on Dashcam — License Revoked

    It has emerged that a driver for the Tokyo Metropolitan Bus service was referred to prosecutors last October on suspicion of violating the Road Traffic Act (obstructive driving/tailgating) after aggressively tailgating a private vehicle while operating an out-of-service bus. The dashcam also recorded the driver shouting “You idiot!” The case was reported as unusual, since it’s rare for a public transit driver to face charges over aggressive driving that could lead to a serious accident. On 5ch, discussion ranged widely — from speculation about the driver’s employment status and the bus system’s operating structure, to how dashcam footage is handled, and on to the working conditions of route bus drivers and the reality of trouble with passengers.

    It has been learned, through reporting to the Metropolitan Police Department and other sources, that a driver for the Tokyo Metropolitan Bus service was referred to prosecutors this past autumn on suspicion of violating the Road Traffic Act (obstructive driving) after tailgating a private vehicle while driving an out-of-service bus. With tailgating that can lead to serious accidents now subject to tougher penalties, it is said to be unusual for a public transit driver to be charged. (By Ayana Ebisuno)

    ◆ Industry group: “Never heard of a case like this anywhere in the country”

    According to Komagome Police Station, the man referred to prosecutors was a Tokyo Metropolitan Bus driver in his 30s at the time. Last October, while driving an out-of-service bus between Shinobazu-dori and JR Komagome Station in Tokyo’s Bunkyo Ward, he is alleged to have committed violations such as unnecessarily honking his horn and flashing his headlights at a private vehicle. The dashcam recorded the driver’s voice shouting “You idiot!” The case came to light after a 110 emergency call, believed to be from the victim who was tailgated.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:37
    Is this guy a city employee? If so, the union's strong enough that losing his license won't get him fired.
    164AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:15
    Re: #6
    I don't think he's a city employee.
    Toei Bus routes are outsourced now.
    I recall it's under the Tokyu Bus group, if I remember right.
    (Not Tokyu Bus itself, though.)
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:39
    Are they actually punishing the real tailgating cases that get posted on YouTube and other videos?
    They're not just letting those slide, right?
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:41
    If someone won't move out of the priority lane, isn't a honk about right?
    Even ambulances tell people to get out of the way.
    151AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:11
    Re: #18
    An ambulance and a city bus.
    Explain exactly how they're different.
    152AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:11
    Re: #18
    An ambulance and a city bus.
    Explain exactly how they're different.
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    Ah, Tokyo Shimbun.
    In that case the guy who got tailgated is probably mostly at fault, then.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    Re: #28
    You know what a dashcam is, right? lol
    198AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    Re: #28
    A lot of Tokyo's embarrassing stuff only ever gets reported by Tokyo Shimbun —
    like the homeless population numbers or the Metropolitan Police overstepping.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    Dashcams record audio too, huh.
    I talk to myself a lot and curse under my breath, lol.
    That'd be rough if I ever had to submit it as evidence for something.
    94AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #33
    I keep the mic off.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:47
    Everyone's got a dashcam these days, yet people still manage to tailgate and shout abuse…
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:50
    Re: #40
    Guys who lose their temper and tailgate will do it whether there's a dashcam or not,
    and guys who wouldn't do it, wouldn't do it even without one.
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:52
    This is bad for a city bus driver to do.
    He should've gone to work for Tobu Bus instead.
    105AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:02
    Re: #60
    Just an average day for Kyoto buses —
    they tailgate even during regular service.
    140AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:09
    Re: #60
    If anywhere, it'd be Kanto Bus.
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Passengers have already resigned themselves to 'well, buses run late sometimes' — does he really need to rush that much?
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    Re: #93
    Isn't he liable to get disciplined if the arrival time is off by even a minute?
    100AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:01
    Re: #93
    Because there are a lot of passengers who yell at them.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:03
    Re: #93
    When passengers put up with lateness thinking 'well, it can't be helped,' the drivers just get more and more full of themselves.
    Sotetsu Bus is like that too. But since it's my local line, I don't want neighbors seeing me arguing with the driver,
    so I just file complaints through the inquiry form whenever it happens.
    No idea if anyone actually reads them, though.
    142AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:09
    This is exactly how route buses keep disappearing from towns, one incident at a time.
    148AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:10
    Re: #142
    That's exactly why they're running self-driving bus trials.
    156AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:12
    Re: #142
    Self-driving on bus routes in places like Tokyo or Yokohama is probably a long way off.
    Might not happen in our lifetimes.
    144AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:09
    I'd like to see the dashcam footage from the bus's side too.
    It's not fair to judge from just one side.
    There's got to be more to the story.
    154AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:11
    Re: #144
    Obviously they checked the bus's own dashcam before handing down the punishment.
    207AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Re: #144
    Didn't you learn that tailgating is wrong no matter the cause?
    242AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:29
    Re: #144
    Under the agreement with the labor union, Toei Bus normally doesn't review dashcam footage.
    I remember a past case, not a traffic incident but a dispute over how a driver treated a passenger, that turned into a he-said-she-said.
    This time it might have only come out because the police got involved and forced disclosure.
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:14
    Bus drivers have always had that aggressive 'get out of my way' attitude.
    168AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:16
    Re: #158
    Yeah, ever since everyone started talking about 'customer harassment,' it's swung back that way again.
    Station staff too — lately some of them have worse attitudes than bad civil servants. I don't think passengers yelling at them is good either,
    but once passengers stop complaining at all, public transit just gets sloppier and sloppier — I can feel it happening.
    186AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:19
    Re: #168
    No matter how much you complain, service quality across the board just keeps declining.
    That's what a labor shortage means.
    Without enough people, there's no way to guarantee quality.
    214AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:23
    Re: #168
    There's never a sensible middle ground — the pendulum just swings reactively from one extreme to the other.
    174AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:17
    I've never met a calm bus driver.
    They're pretty much always irritated.
    188AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:19
    Re: #174
    Well, that can't be helped —
    for us drivers, running on schedule is the job.
    197AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    Re: #174
    There are probably a lot of terrible drivers out there.
    I see plenty who really shouldn't have been given a license in the first place.
    Most of them tend to be older, but surprisingly some young ones too.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Aggressive tailgating (the offense of “obstructive driving”) is a relatively new violation category, created under the 2020 revision of the Road Traffic Act, and it carries harsher administrative penalties and criminal punishment than ordinary traffic violations. What made this case “unusual” is that the offender was a public transit driver — the industry association says it isn’t aware of any comparable case being prosecuted before. Where opinions in the thread diverged was mainly over whether the driver was a city employee or worked for a subcontracted company; the article itself doesn’t specify this, so it remains pure speculation on 5ch. Comments claiming there’s “an arrangement with the labor union not to review dashcam footage” are likewise unverified personal opinion and shouldn’t be taken as fact. That said, it’s worth noting how the discussion expanded beyond this single incident into structural issues facing the industry — staff shortages on bus routes, customer harassment, and pressure to keep to schedule.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Toei Bus] Tailgating… Driver Shouts “You Idiot!” on Dashcam — License of Man in His 30s Revoked.”