Category: Idols

  • Silver Streamer Cannons, Flame Effects on Two Songs, Closing Slot for “Moremi” — CDTV’s Star Treatment of Juice=Juice Sparks Buzz

    On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a thread lit up over how well CDTV’s live-stream concert treated Juice=Juice. Fans were stunned by a run of production touches no other group got — silver streamer cannons at the opening, pyrotechnic flame effects on two songs, and the closing slot going to “Moremi” (a fan nickname for a member known for always looking stunning on camera). Some speculated that the group’s strong reception at this year’s New Year’s Eve CDTV live led to this VIP treatment, and the thread also linked to a comparison thread pointing out that Morning Musume。’, a fellow Hello! Project group with equally talented members that performed around the same time, doesn’t get the same star treatment even when it puts on an equally good show. The venue was Tokyo Garden Theater — the same hall where Miyamoto Karin’s graduation concert had once been scheduled — and the viewing fee was reportedly 4,000 yen.

    1AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:00
    Every other group's staging was totally ordinary, but
    Juice=Juice got flame effects not just for Moremi but even for Fiesta!,
    and they even popped the streamer cannons at the opening. What is going on?
    2AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:02
    The host's a Juice=Juice fan,
    and Boona kept hyping up Moremi hard too,
    it really felt like their song was the main event of the day.
    3AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:06
    Guess their New Year's CDTV appearance must've left a really strong impression.
    4AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:29
    Morning Musume。 turned in a performance just as good as Juice=Juice's at the CDTV New Year's Eve live, so why doesn't CDTV treat them the same way?
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789164647/
    5AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:36
    It's nice when it leads to more opportunities, right?
    Bring on some non-Musume Hello! Project groups too.
    6AnonymousSep 12, 2026 07:39
    Sounds like it was seriously good stuff.
    I wasn't planning on paying for this stream, but now it feels like I have to watch it.
    12AnonymousSep 12, 2026 08:05
    Re: #6
    It was way more fun than that TV Asahi festival back in August.
    It's only 4,000 yen, so you should definitely watch it.
    11AnonymousSep 12, 2026 08:03
    NiziU are cute and had a ton of fans in the crowd, but their songs are kind of plain and don't pop live.
    15AnonymousSep 12, 2026 08:45
    How many times can you watch it for 4,000 yen?
    16AnonymousSep 12, 2026 08:51
    I think you can rewatch it as many times as you want for about two weeks.
    17AnonymousSep 12, 2026 09:09
    I thought it was at a livehouse, but they set off flames?
    Where was this even held?
    18AnonymousSep 12, 2026 09:13
    Tokyo Garden Theater.
    Yeah, the one where Miyamoto Karin's graduation concert was supposed to happen.

    Background and Key Points

    It’s long been noted that CDTV varies the quality of its stage production significantly from artist to artist, and this case — streamer cannons, flame effects, and the closing slot all given to Juice=Juice — is a clear example of that gap in action. Commenters speculated that the group’s well-received New Year’s Eve CDTV appearance earlier this year led to this VIP treatment, but it’s worth noting that the show’s production choices haven’t been officially explained, so this remains fan speculation. There were also comments comparing the difference in treatment with Morning Musume。’, a fellow Hello! Project group with equally talented members active during the same period, showing how easily this kind of topic turns into a debate about disparities between groups. The venue, Tokyo Garden Theater, is also where Miyamoto Karin’s graduation concert had once been scheduled; the viewing ticket cost 4,000 yen, with the stream reportedly available for about two weeks.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Streamer Cannons, Flames on 2 Songs, Closing Slot for Moremi — CDTV’s Treatment of Juice=Juice Is Way Too Good”.

  • S Cawaii! Special Edition Cover Goes to Juice=Juice, Ariyasu Ichika Takes Center — 5ch Calls It ‘Perfectly Balanced Casting’

    It’s been announced that Hello! Project’s Juice=Juice will grace the cover of the special edition of idol magazine ‘S Cawaii!’s November 2026 issue. Ariyasu Ichika will serve as center, and reactions poured in on 5ch’s Hello! Project board over the casting choice. While some praised the “casting” for making it easier to balance the members’ heights with Ariyasu at center, other posts voiced frustration over the placement of members like Ishiyama and Irie, sparking a range of opinions about the magazine’s lineup.

    S Cawaii! Editorial Team

    @mag_scawaii

    [“Special Edition” Cover Revealed❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥]

    Source: infosquare.shop / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:04
    Risachi's big boobs are giving me a nosebleed!
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:04
    Mippuru's legs
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:06
    Should've gone with Ishiyama, are you kidding me
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:06
    Garbage casting shoving Ishiyama into the back row as an extra
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:08
    Guess the Ebamifu two-top duo didn't balance out headcount-wise (nickname mashup of two members)
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:09
    Standing next to Ebamifu, Ariyasu's the one whose height actually balances out well
    She's slimmed down too and genuinely looks great now
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:10
    I hate people who end sentences with '…nano yone' (a soft, feminine speech tic)
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:12
    Being stuck on the sidelines ain't so bad (lit. "roadside" — slang for members placed at the edge)
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:13
    Round face, round fit — no wonder it works
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:17
    Is leopard print trending right now?
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:18
    Dambara, Inoue, Endo, and Hayashi got the sweet spots, no?
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:20
    Give ANGERME some cover work too, please
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:21
    Put Ariyasu at center and everything just falls into place
    Whoever made this call really gets it — genius casting
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:21
    She's genuinely on the rise right now, and it's not just hype
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:24
    Mippuru's got such intense eyes!
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:26
    Re: #27
    Not anymore, though
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:32
    Re: #1
    Ruru lol
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:33
    Is it just me, or is Dambara actually really pretty here
    Have I just seen her so much my judgment's broken?
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:34
    Re: #50
    Nah, I don't think that's off
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:42
    Just give it to Icchan already

    Background and Talking Points

    S Cawaii! is a fashion magazine aimed at teenage girls, and special editions featuring Hello! Project groups on the cover have repeatedly made waves before. Juice=Juice currently has a large lineup, so “who gets center” and “who ends up in the back row” of the magazine spread tends to be a major focus for fans. In this thread, the theory that placing Ariyasu Ichika at center made it easier to balance height differences and sub-unit groupings won a lot of support, while fans backing members pushed to the back row, like Ishiyama and Irie, voiced dissatisfaction with the placement. It’s worth noting these takes aren’t based on any stated intent from the shoot’s staff — they’re purely fan speculation.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Image] S Cawaii! November 2026 issue [Special Edition] cover is Juice=Juice! Center is Ariyasu Ichika-chan, here we go (゚∀゚)!!.”

  • Juice=Juice x Haramichan New Song MV Hits 533K Views in a Week — 5ch: “This Song’s a Monster”

    The music video for “Moré! Mi Amore,” the new song by Hello! Project idol group Juice=Juice and popular pianist Haramichan, has racked up 533,000 views in the week since its release. (“Moré” plays on Japanese slang for looking extra glammed-up.) On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, a thread comparing the view counts of past songs sprang up, buzzing over the fact that it trails only “BLOODY BULLET” (674,000) and “Pride Bright” (618,000) among songs released since 2020. While some posters were upbeat, saying things like “They’ve squeezed this song dry for a whole year and it still hits this hard,” others jumped in to compare it with new releases from BEYOOOOONDS and Morning Musume.’26, which are also gaining traction right now, sparking a split of opinion over which group is more popular.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:02
    Juice=Juice MV Views @ 1 Week (March 2020–)
    674,000 — BLOODY BULLET
    618,000 — Pride Bright
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:27
    They've milked this song for a whole year and it still hits this hard. This song's a monster.
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:28
    Weak, lol.
    Totally got eaten alive by Beyoo (BEYOOOOONDS) lol
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:35
    Re: #5
    Forget Beyoo, it's even worse than Anju (ANGERME).
    Juice=Juice is finished.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:29
    People are already completely over it
    Everyone's attention has shifted to Beyoo lol
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:30
    Thanks for warming up the stage for Beyoo, lol
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:38
    Beyoo's already at 430K, so it's definitely gonna get overtaken
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:39
    Re: #9
    Juice=Juice is in tears lolololololololololololol

    This is the era of Morning Musume, ANGERME, and BEYOOOOONDS
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:41
    Is this a sockpuppet post? Lame.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:43
    It's funny how whenever someone posting from Asahi Net chimes in, the opposite ends up happening lol (Asahi Net is an ISP — posts from it are a running 5ch jinx meme)
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:46
    Not sure how big the Haramichan effect was, but this one isn't from phone-farm view-botting, right?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:51
    Re: #1
    Re: #2
    What about Kurakura?
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:52
    Re: #34
    Only around 300K, totally underwhelming
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:59
    ANGERME lost again
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:02
    [Breaking] Morning Musume.'26's new song "Yes ka No ka Watashi ka" (lit. "Yes, No, or Me?") MV hits 357K views in a week!
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1789124497/
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:05
    Doesn't this prove Juice=Juice isn't just some idol group—
    that they've actually got serious talent?
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:08
    Re: #50
    That's just an illusion, though
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:07
    They're just chumps who lost to Beyoo, though? lol
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:08
    Juice=Juice is done, lol
    It's Beyoo's era now, lol
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:09
    Beyoo's numbers always spike hard on weekends, lol
    Even the "Moré" Budokan show is probably gonna get overtaken, lol
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:11
    Re: #57
    Go get past a million!
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 20:41
    Beyoo's subscriber count isn't growing at all though…

    Background and Talking Points

    YouTube view counts are often used among fans as a yardstick for gauging the momentum of Hello! Project songs, but the figures are usually not official releases — they’re numbers fans of each group tally up themselves. In this thread too, posts lined up comparing view counts across past Juice=Juice songs and new releases from BEYOOOOONDS and Morning Musume.’26 that came out around the same time, and it spiraled into a back-and-forth over which group comes out on top. Since view counts are affected by release timing, whether promotion was done, and how widely fans share the video, it’s hard to gauge real popularity from raw numbers alone. Some posters in the thread cast doubt on the specific tallying method, but no supporting evidence was offered, which is worth keeping in mind.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Breaking] Juice=Juice x Haramichan’s new song “Moré! Mi Amore” MV hits 533K views in a week!.”

  • What’s AKB48’s Greatest Song Ever? 5ch Votes Pile Up for ‘Heavy Rotation’ and ‘Koi Chun’

    A thread asking what the “greatest song of all time” is among AKB48’s tracks got lively on 5ch. Some pushed for songs like “Heavy Rotation” and “I Want You,” which spread widely through TV commercials and karaoke, while others argued “Koi Suru Fortune Cookie” was in a league of its own, and some fans cited “Kimi to Boku no Polaris,” a song only ever performed at theater shows. With people also pointing out that sales figures don’t always line up with general public awareness, the debate ended up split over what “greatest” should even mean.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:26
    Kokoro Pura? (short for "Kokoro no Placard"/"Heart's Placard")
    2AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:27
    The "I Want You" one
    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:30
    I want to give Akari a copy of Tokuhiro Masaya's manga Ken-chan & Chako-chan
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:31
    "Skirt, Hirari"
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:31
    "Fawchun Chickie" (a garbled mispronunciation of "Fortune Cookie")
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:32
    "Everyday, Kamihikouki" (Everyday, Paper Airplane)
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:33
    Isn't it "Legal Speed and Superiority Complex"?
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:33
    The one that actually became a proper hit, got recognized by regular people, and still gets sung at karaoke is Heavy Rotation, right?
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:36
    I only know "I Want You"
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:52
    Re: #9
    From the Wii commercial
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:36
    Re: #1
    What's that short for?
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:36
    Listened again to a song I loved back in their prime after ages — it just didn't hit the same
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:38
    "Kachusha Girl" (Headband Girl)
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:38
    "Only Today"
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:39
    "Seifuku ga Jama o Suru" (My School Uniform Gets in the Way)
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:39
    Cookie's basically the only good song
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:40
    "Kimi no Koto ga Suki Dakara" (Because I Like You) — Tetsuro Oda is a genius
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:41
    Among their recent songs, "Kimi to Boku no Polaris" was great
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:10
    Re: #18
    Apparently when that song was first performed at a theater show, Mukaichi Mion was watching from the audience and was moved to tears
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:41
    "Namida Surprise" (Tears Surprise)
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:41
    It's gotta be "Squall no Aida ni" (During the Squall)
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:42
    Erii's "Hisashiburi no Lip Gloss" (Lip Gloss After a Long Time)
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:54
    Ai-chan's "Koizume"
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:55
    The Ito Momoka one
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:02
    The paper airplane one reminds me of COVID lol
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:03
    The remix version they only ever performed live at Kamonegi
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:04
    "Candy" — baby baby baby
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:04
    Honestly, Koi Chun — I don't think there's a song better than that one
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:20
    Some person I didn't recognize sang "Flying Get" in English, right? Tomoaki Ogura raved about it on Tokudane
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:26
    Their all-time best-selling single being "Sayonara Crawl"?

    Never even heard of it
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:53
    Re: #41
    It's a good song, but Koi Chun, released right after it, was such a massive presence that it overshadowed it
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:28
    "Ne mo Ha mo Rumor," billed as AKB48's big comeback, was good — but right when they were about to take off, the center went and messed up
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:32
    You should've gone with "Oogoe Diamond" there
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:38
    The only one I actually own is "UZA," which I bought at Book Off
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:45
    I want to push for "Sakura no Hanabiratachi" here
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:48
    I'm not even an AKB otaku but I know every song mentioned so far — it'd take some effort to name one I don't know
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 18:56
    "Max Toki 315-gou"
    "Onegai Valentine"
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:30
    AKB has a lot of good songs since so many different people write for them — it's basically a collection of everyone's best effort
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:54
    It's gotta be "11-gatsu no Anklet" (November Anklet), Mayuyu's last one
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 19:57
    "Ne mo Ha mo Rumor" — the only AKB CD I ever bought

    Background and Points of Debate

    Since forming in 2005, AKB48 has put out a huge number of single and album tracks, and because the selected members and center position rotate from song to song, which tracks resonate most varies a lot by generation. Songs frequently brought up in the thread — “Heavy Rotation,” “Koi Suru Fortune Cookie,” and “Flying Get” — were also used in TV commercials and variety shows, spreading to the general public, and drew support based on that name recognition. On the other hand, songs like “Kimi to Boku no Polaris,” which debuted at a theater show, or “11-gatsu no Anklet,” tied to a specific member’s graduation, gathered votes tied to fans’ personal experiences, splitting the thread over whether “greatest” should mean “most famous” or “most meaningful.” The fact that sales rankings don’t always match public awareness was also part of why the discussion never quite converged.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “So What Was AKB48’s Greatest Song, Really?“

  • Juice=Juice Thread Overrun by Copypasta Spam — Fans Say ‘Now That the Wolf’s Broken, I’ve Lost Interest’

    On 5ch’s Hello!Project board, nicknamed “the Wolf,” discussion kicked off in the Juice=Juice thread after a poster complained that copypasta spam had made the thread so heavy it wouldn’t load anymore. Some said that dodging the spam had left them out of the loop on the group’s recent activities, while others countered that the board was only ever used to get information from thread titles anyway, so the actual content didn’t matter. Some pointed out that setting NG (blocked) words would lighten the load and fix the spam problem, but opinions split between those who’d lost interest now that their only source of information had stopped functioning, and those who called that just plain apathy hiding behind the spam as an excuse.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:34
    As a result I have no idea what they're up to lately, so my interest is fading.
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:35
    Isn't the Wolf a board where you get your info just from thread titles anyway? Who cares about the actual content?
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #4
    Thread titles alone are way too short to give you much information.
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Even when someone tells me they were on TV, I'm just like "wait, seriously??"
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #9
    So what DO you follow normally then? Underground idols?
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:39
    It gets spammed, loading gets slow, so you stop opening it.
    Naturally you start ignoring the Juice thread.
    And then you fall out of the loop on what they're doing.
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:41
    Re: #13
    If you use ChMate (a mobile browser app), cutting down NG words makes it lighter.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #13
    But this thread hasn't been spammed, so you already saw the info in Re: #11, didn't you?
    You saw it and you're just doing the "la la la, I can't hear you" thing — that's you in this thread.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #11
    Even if this turns out to be fake news, I wouldn't know and I can't be bothered to check.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #18
    You're clearly interested enough to post that.
    You wouldn't have even made this thread if you weren't interested in the first place.
    You wouldn't start a thread called "I have no idea what Rosy Chronicle is up to," would you?
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #18
    For the record, not a single bit of it is fake.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    I was more into Juice last year, but now I don't care and I'm getting curious about Angerme instead — weird.
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #20
    Hope the Christmas event ends up with an early-round lottery frenzy.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #20
    You don't actually care about Juice or Angerme either, do you.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #23
    I don't even know who you are, so you're not exactly credible.
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:45
    Re: #26
    Lol, as if you're someone people trust either.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:46
    Re: #26
    Oh, is that so, lol.
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:46
    Copypasta does have one effect: wasting people's lifespan.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:47
    Re: #30
    Too bad for you.

    Re: #32
    Hate to admit it, but you have to call this a win for the copypasta.
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:47
    Re: #32
    Meanwhile Juice=Juice fans are happily hopping from one fresh-news thread to the next.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:50
    The only ones who'd say something like the thread title is probably the copypasta guy who mindlessly pastes into every Juice=Juice good-news thread.
    Theory: he's pasting so much he doesn't even know what's in the thread anymore.
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:55
    Re: #36
    Maybe so, but I've also stopped checking the content myself, so it seems to work great.
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:50
    At this point you could just add Juice=Juice as an NG word to stop wasting your data.
    That's basically what the Wolf is now.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:51
    Re: #37
    Sounds like you're on a cheap data plan.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #39
    What do you even watch normally then?
    I'll just say "I've lost interest in whatever you're interested in" right back, so tell me.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #40
    What do you think it is?
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    X (Twitter) is plenty for info, isn't it.
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:02
    Re: #45
    X has way too much noise, I can't even be bothered to look.
    My only source of info — the Wolf — broke down, so I lost interest.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    Re: #51
    If it's noise you're worried about, the Wolf's always had more of it than X.
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    Re: #51
    Someone who relies on the Wolf as their info source 👈 what's your gender and age?
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    The Wolf has stopped working as a source of info on Juice, huh.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:01
    Re: #47
    Since I only look at thread titles, all I know about is Juice=Juice.
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    As long as the copypasta guy is around, interest in Juice is never coming back.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #57
    Meanwhile groups that AREN'T being spammed are bombing so hard it's brutal — go cheer them on with some numbers.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #52
    In my case I'm actually the one spamming Juice=Juice threads on purpose, just to lure in trolls for fun.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:05
    Re: #58
    Then make a separate thread just for luring them in.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:06
    Re: #64
    The goal of spreading information is already accomplished by the thread title and the thread's momentum, so it doesn't matter what happens to the content.
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:08
    Re: #67
    In the end, the thread title is the one thing copypasta can't ruin — that's its limit.

    Background and Points of Debate

    “The Wolf” is the nickname for 5ch’s Hello!Project board, where group-specific threads serve as the main hub fans use to exchange information. These threads have long been prime targets for “copypasta spam” — the repeated posting of identical content — which slows page loading and drives readers away. As mentioned in the discussion, dedicated browser apps like ChMate let users hide flagged posts by setting NG (blocked) words, easing the perceived slowdown, though the underlying spam posts themselves remain. What divided this thread was whether the loss of information should be blamed on the spam itself, or simply on the individual’s own waning interest — with the latter camp pointing out, somewhat paradoxically, that the very post being discussed did get a reaction out of people. There was also a side conversation about whether posters were more invested in Juice=Juice or Angerme, though this reflected differences in individual fans’ enthusiasm rather than any factual matter, and the thread reached no overall conclusion.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello!Project) thread “The Juice=Juice thread gets spammed so no information comes through.”

  • Morning Musume。’26 FC Event Set for Zepp Haneda — 5ch Reacts: ‘This Venue Holds 500 Fewer People, LOL’

    Morning Musume。’26’s fan-club-only event “Musume.×FAN×Fun!×Christmas~” has been announced for December 16, 2026, at Zepp Haneda (Tokyo). General admission tickets are ¥5,700 (tax included), with two shows per day. On the thread, fans expressed confusion that the venue is a flat-floor live house with no tiered seating, surprise that its capacity is reportedly smaller than the hall Angerme used, and nostalgia for tiered venues like Nerima Culture Center used in the past.

    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:00
    Morning Musume。'26 FC Event ~Musume.×FAN×Fun!×Christmas~
    ●Performers: Morning Musume。'26
    *Performers may change in part. Please note that ticket refunds will not be issued due to performer changes.
    ●Venue: Zepp Haneda (Tokyo)
    ●Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2026
    [Show 01] Doors 16:00 / Start 16:45
    [Show 02] Doors 18:45 / Start 19:30
    ●Seat types: General seating, Elementary school seating (all reserved)
    ●Ticket price: ¥5,700 (tax included)
    ●Purchase limit: 1 general seat and up to 2 elementary school seats per show
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:50
    Re: #3
    Wow, what an insane place to hold it…
    Feels like 5-6 years ago they did a two-day thing there — Sayumi's birthday live and a birthday talk live.
    Back then this place felt as far away as Yokohama or Makuhari.
    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:04
    Wait, what?

    [15,000 points] Notice for two-shot photo & autographed signed board reception

    Wednesday, December 16, 2026, Tokyo
    Nonaka Miki / Okamura Homare / Yamazaki Airi / Sakurai Rio / Inoue Haruka / Yumikuwa Akoto (Morning Musume。'26)
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:07
    Re: #6
    Staff always forgetting to add the new members
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:04
    They probably swiped this from Karin's tour budget. Bastards.
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:41
    Re: #7
    You had empty seats and you're saying that?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:06
    It's normal for 18th gen not to be in the two-shot photos.
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:08
    No Exe (executive-tier) photo session means no point-based photos either?
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:14
    Nearest station is Tenkubashi, via Tokyo Monorail or Keikyu Line.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:15
    MM: Zepp Haneda (1,207)
    Ang: Ichikawa Culture Hall Large Hall (1,768)
    J=J: Ichikawa Culture Hall Large Hall (1,768)
    Tsubaki: Nissho Hall (1,000)
    BEYOO: Nissho Hall (1,000)
    OCHA: Hitotsubashi Hall (802)
    Rosy: Setagaya Egret Hall (933)
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:15
    A venue with 500 fewer seats than Angerme's, lol
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:17
    If the Christmas event venue is flat-floor, I lose all motivation to go.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:19
    So we've reached the era where Musume. plays live houses and Angerme plays halls…
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    When's Sugihara's bar event? Is there even one?
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    Re: #24
    There's Countdown Concert and Hello Pro Con rehearsals, so if it happens it'll probably be after New Year's.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:21
    No bar event for Sugihara this year.
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:22
    Re: #26
    If it happens, I'd guess January next year.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:21
    Hold on, wait — Zepp means the floor seating is flat? That's seriously deflating.
    I really liked Nerima the last two years…
    Now I'm torn on whether to even apply.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:25
    I don't think Sugihara's getting one this fiscal year.
    She joined earlier than the other three, so it's an awkward case.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:27
    There's supposed to be a Suzuki & Yasuda bar event in May '27, and since it'd be Sugihara's last one birthday-wise, I feel like there should be one this fiscal year too.

    Though if Oda graduates in November, Christmas event rehearsals start right after — someone's bound to be worn out.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:29
    Re: #31
    Suzuki & Yasuda's is in April.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:27
    So 'live house' means it's a flat floor with no incline or steps? You won't see a thing even if the aisle divas come out.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:28
    Can't remember who, but some new member in another group did one without it spanning fiscal years, so Musume. could easily manage it too.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:32
    I'm an out-of-towner with Exe (executive-tier) membership, but this venue killed my motivation to go.
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:34
    I'm from Tama, and it's far… Even if I go, there's no way I can do both shows.
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:35
    1,000 capacity would've been fine — I wish they'd used Nissho Hall like the 18th-gen event.
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:39


    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:43
    Two girls who look like they could be in Hello!Project — a 19-year-old and a 20-year-old — doing karaoke
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351359497
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:44
    A cramped dump way out in the boonies — and this is the one and only Musume. FC event of the year? I could cry.
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:45
    The Homamei (Homare & [an]other 18th-gen member) event had a 1,000-capacity lottery wipeout, so this one should be easy too, right?
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:51
    Re: #45
    'Easy'? You sure your Japanese is okay?
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:47
    With Oda graduating, Morning Musume is seriously over. lol
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:48
    Whenever I go to this venue, it reminds me of J.G. Ballard's novel 'Concrete Island.'
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:49
    There's no one in the current Morning Musume lineup I actually want to see…
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:51
    If it were standing-room it'd be fun, but there's absolutely no way Morning Musume does standing for a Christmas event lol
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:51
    No standing room at Christmas events.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:51
    Ranked below Angerme — that's third place in the pecking order, lol
    57AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:52
    Is it a live house because Oda's graduating?
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:52
    Even with chairs, it's still flat floor. Not going.
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:53
    Starting with the spring tour, it's confirmed live houses are the new normal for tours — think of this as a dry run for that.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Zepp Haneda is a live-house-style venue with no tiered seating, meaning that even with assigned seats, sightlines can easily be blocked by the heads of people in front. The complaint on the thread that “a flat floor kills my motivation to go” appears to stem from this structural feature. Capacity comparisons (such as “500 fewer seats than Angerme’s venue”) are based on attendees’ memories and rumors rather than officially announced seat counts, so the exact figures should be confirmed against the organizer’s announcement. The thread also includes multiple mentions of a certain member’s (Oda’s) graduation timing and the scheduling of other members’ individual fan events, but these are all fan speculation rather than official announcements, so caution is warranted.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Project) thread “★Fan Club Members-Only Event★ “Morning Musume。’26 FC Event ~Musume.×FAN×Fun!×Christmas~” Announced!“

  • Tsubaki Factory releases live footage, taiko drum staging splits fans — 5ch: “If they’re fine staying uncool, that’s OK too”

    The official channel of Tsubaki Factory, an idol group under Hello! Project, has released live footage of “Fuwari, Koi Dokei” from the concert “Tsubaki Factory’s Summer Festival 2026 ~Shakunetsu~,” held on August 27, 2026 at Kawaguchiko Stellar Theater in Yamanashi. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, comments on the footage sparked a clash between fans who called the group’s signature taiko drum staging “outdated and uncool” and those who defended it as the group’s long-standing signature style, escalating into a debate over whether the staging still works.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    [Tsubaki Factory Channel]
    Tsubaki Factory "Fuwari, Koi Dokei" Shakunetsu 2026 Live Ver.
    youtu.be/chervkbEN_4
    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chervkbEN_4

    This is the LIVE footage of "Fuwari, Koi Dokei," performed at "Tsubaki Factory's Summer Festival 2026 ~Shakunetsu~," held on Thursday, August 27, 2026 at Kawaguchiko Stellar Theater in Yamanashi.
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:31
    Are they gonna do this one at tomorrow's band live too?
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:31
    I can't believe this is the thumbnail for "Fuwari, Koi Dokei"
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:38
    Tsubaki's Anju and Biyo's manager is really putting in the work (nicknames for two members)
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    They already burned all the hype on Biyo, c'mon (Kansai-dialect grumble)
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:47
    I'm not blaming the members here, but the whole idea of "let's bang a taiko drum" is old-fashioned and painfully uncool.
    That alone is enough to make young people not even glance their way.
    Tsubaki Factory, do something stylish enough to make the old guys uncomfortable for once.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:47
    A group with a refined, dignified beauty, paired with an evergreen freshness and strength.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:51
    The shamisen and guitar combo is seriously cool
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:53
    Right after the "wanting to be seen" line, they should cut to silence and build the tension there (referring to a specific section of the song).
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:54
    Give us Tayu's solo and King Marin's duet too (member nicknames)
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:18
    Tsubaki just can't shake that underground-idol vibe.
    The taiko drums are way too uncool at this point.
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:21
    Honestly, I'm sick of that image by now.
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:23
    Re: #44
    If you don't like it, you don't have to watch.
    Nobody's forcing you to.
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:23
    It's aimed at old guys, so sure, the old guys are getting mad about this, but for young people, an idol banging a taiko drum is just cringe and out of place.
    I mean, it's fine if Tsubaki wants to stay stuck with that uncool image.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:25
    Re: #45
    Instead of complaining here, why not post it on X or in the YouTube comments
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:25
    Out of all the idol groups out there today, one that plays taiko drums is just embarrassing…
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:27
    Re: #54
    That way of thinking is what's embarrassing
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:27
    Tsubaki's basically a magnet for troublesome fans ("yakkai wota"), so it'd be a problem if they got too cool for that crowd.
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:29
    Re: #64
    Yeah exactly, Tsubaki's whole worth is being uncool.
    If they turned into IVE, the old guys would lose their place to belong.
    Keep banging those taiko drums at every single live.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:28
    If young fans actually hated it, it would've already been changed in the lives by now.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:29
    The crowd at Shakunetsu is seriously full of young people.
    It's growing every year.
    Guess couch fans ("zaitaku," those who never actually attend) wouldn't know that.
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:29
    Re: #68
    Sorry, but calling that crowd "young" had me cracking up lol

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Tsubaki Factory is a Hello! Project group formed in 2015, and “Shakunetsu” is their annual summer concert series. The taiko drum staging has been a recurring feature at these shows for years, and the release of this latest live footage reignited a clash between those who see the staging as “outdated and uncool” and those who embrace it as a long-standing piece of the group’s identity. Some in the thread claimed the audience is “getting younger,” but no concrete data backs this up — it’s worth noting these are purely individual impressions. Much of the discussion also drifted away from the merits of the staging itself and into name-calling, with participants branding each other “idiots” or “old men,” falling short of a genuinely constructive exchange.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Tsubaki Factory “Fuwari, Koi Dokei” Shakunetsu 2026 Live Ver.“.

  • Current Idol Says “Dating Ban Isn’t Really Necessary” — Sparks Debate; 5ch: “An Idol Is Still Just an Idol”

    The unwritten “no dating” rule remains deeply entrenched in the idol world. Against that backdrop, a current idol’s comment — “That rule doesn’t really need to exist, does it? We’re professionals at singing and dancing” — became a hot topic on 5ch. In the thread, some agreed: “If they’re professionals, they should be free like artists are.” Others pushed back: “Idols are sold as a total package that includes pseudo-romance, not just singing and dancing.” Opinions split over how dating affects popularity and over what “professional” even means.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:42
    Honestly, I couldn't argue back against that…
    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:43
    Then just quit being an idol.
    Artists don't have some unspoken rule like that.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:46
    Re: #2
    Idols don't really have it either lol
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:43
    Fine by me, as long as she announces it the moment she gets a boyfriend.
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    Honestly, Juice=Juice fans would probably let that slide.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:45
    Re: #4
    No way, that's impossible.
    Juice=Juice has the most members with fans seriously in love with them in all of Hello! Project right now.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    A slender, busty 23-year-old who looks like she could be in °C-ute had her address exposed during a blackout mid-stream
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351359919

    A 16-year-old schoolgirl-type who looks like she could be in Hello! Project, whose birthday was yesterday, opens presents sent in by listeners
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351356331
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    It's not actually banned.
    It's just that goods and cheki (polaroid photo) sales drop, which causes trouble for management.
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    Fine, as long as they're performing at the same level as professional vocalists or ballet dancers.
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:44
    It's not technically forbidden, so if she wants to date, she can go ahead.
    But she has to accept the price that comes with it.
    You only get to pick one: popularity or love.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:46
    Re: #10
    There's demand from female fans too, so it's fine even if a relationship gets exposed.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:45
    I think it's fine, as long as she's prepared for it to hit her popularity.
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:45
    I don't want to spend my time and money on an idol with a boyfriend, so just tell us straight if you get one.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:46
    It's only outsiders saying this kind of thing.
    The idols themselves are the ones imposing the restriction on themselves — otherwise fans won't spend money.
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:47
    No damage done even if Dambara has a boyfriend.
    Her male fans have such a niche fetish that they'll keep cheering her on even with a boyfriend.
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:47
    The answer's been settled for ages now: disband. Just disband.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:47
    "Professionals at singing and dancing" — yet a lot of it is just lip-syncing and swaying around like some Bon Odori festival dance.
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:47
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:48
    You think you can make money off singing alone with no added appeal?
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:48
    I have a feeling the type who says stuff like this is bad at both singing and dancing.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49
    Even if an idol who says this wins the argument, her popularity actually drops as a result, so no real problem.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49
    Juice=Juice stays popular even with two 'death idols' (members whose scandals threaten to tank the group) in the lineup.
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:50
    Re: #30
    Maybe it's because Hello! Project fans don't buy into the 'death idol' rumors.
    But the guy's a former industry insider, so his info is actually pretty credible.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49


    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49
    The idol business sells singing, dancing, looks, and the pseudo-romance angle all bundled together as one package.
    If you're that confident in your singing and dancing, don't be an idol — write, compose, arrange, and sing everything yourself and sell it that way.
    Then nobody would complain.
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:53
    Re: #32
    People would still complain.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:49
    Maybe so, if you're as good as Dambara.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:50
    Sanma Akashiya: "If you say, 'Handshake event in Osaka tomorrow, Sendai the day after — come see me,' there's no man alive who'll come running for that. Not a boyfriend, not a husband, no man like that exists. Only fans put up with that kind of selfishness. That's why idols have to hide their love lives. That's their sincerity toward the fans."
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:51
    You can't keep selling as a singer unless the songs are genuinely good.
    As for dancing, you can't make a living at it unless you're world-class to begin with.
    But just say 'I don't have a boyfriend' and you can get fans to shower you with money even if you're terrible — that's obviously the better deal.
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:53
    Wanting idols to be free to date is dreaming way too big.
    What people like that are picturing is some wholesome romance with a good-looking guy their own age.
    Reality isn't some manga world like that.
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:54
    If she gets a boyfriend, I want an actual announcement — I'll be switching my oshi (favorite member) after that.
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:54
    You guys are defining 'professional' way too narrowly.
    A baseball player batting under .100 is still a pro.
    A guy who looks headed for retirement without ever leaving the minor leagues is still a pro.
    Being a pro doesn't mean you're high-level — if you get paid for it, you're a pro.
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:56
    Re: #50
    That's true.
    But idols aren't selling singing and dancing alone as their product, so they're not 'professional singers and dancers.'
    An idol is still just an idol.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The idol “no dating” rule sometimes comes from an explicit clause in an agency contract or internal rulebook, and sometimes it’s a line idols draw for themselves out of fear of fan backlash or a drop in popularity. In this thread, one comment noted that “it’s not the agency banning it — the idols restrict themselves because otherwise fans stop spending money,” and reactions split depending on differing assumptions about who’s actually imposing the ban. Opinions also clashed over what counts as “professional” — whether it should be judged purely on singing and dancing skill, or on the idol’s overall value as a product, pseudo-romance included. How popularity is affected once a relationship comes to light also varies by group and fanbase, suggesting there’s no one-size-fits-all answer here.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Current idol: “Isn’t it fine if idols just aren’t banned from dating? We’re professionals at singing and dancing”.”

  • Fuji TV’s History of Mass-Producing Idol Groups Goes Viral on 5ch: ‘How Many of These Did You Make?!’

    A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board caught fire over the string of idol group projects Fuji TV has produced throughout its history. Posters listed group after group the network had a hand in, from 1980s projects like Onyanko Club, Ribbon, and CoCo through to the 2000s’ Idoling!!!, with one reply naming more than 40 groups including Shoujotai and the AKB48 franchise. The debate centered on whether Fuji TV had actually mass-produced *good* idols — some argued everything besides Onyanko Club was a string of failures, while others countered that projects involving Yasushi Akimoto have kept a solid batting average.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:16
    From Onyanko Club to Ribbon, CoCo, and More
    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:19
    They were probably just toys for the network staff, huh
    5AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:19
    Fuji TV's amazing, honestly
    Let them produce idols instead of the talent agencies
    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:19
    Fuji was the pinnacle of Japan back then
    The strongest network there was
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:21
    Onyanko Club's the only one that actually succeeded
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:22
    Re: #9
    Onyanko Club was only active for two and a half years, though
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:23
    Okawari Sisters
    Ikko Club
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:23
    Did Fuji TV already pull out of the idol business?
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:27
    Hitting it big in the idol business is probably just hard
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:33
    After Onyanko Club disappeared, otaku were scrambling around lost
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:36
    Ribbon and CoCo were quality idols precisely because it was an idol winter era
    So in that sense maybe they really were 'good'
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:36
    There was also Claire and Tokyo Performance Doll and stuff
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:41
    TV Asahi has Last Idol
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:59
    Re: #29
    If we're talking the same era as Otome Juku, TV Asahi had Sakurakko Club
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:42
    Somehow, when Yasushi Akimoto's involved, it tends to succeed
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:43
    Re: #31
    Plenty of failures too, though
    Like Last Idol, Rain Tree, Ginbis…
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:43
    Pony Canyon isn't Fuji TV
    It's a group company, though
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:43
    There was Suitei Shoujo too
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:12
    Re: #34
    Shouchi-no-Suke (a joke reply — a personification of 'understood!')
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:44
    What was that group Asami Mizukawa was in again?
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:44
    Re: #35
    Never heard of any of them, so that says it all, I guess
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:57
    Akimoto sticks his nose in too much, that's Fuji for you
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:58
    Akimoto hates going the standard route and flops plenty on his own
    It works out when there's competent staff around him
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:59
    Idoling!!! gets a lot of flak too, but it lasted 10 years, so isn't that a success?
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:01
    Idoling was based out of a CS satellite channel, and Fuji TV was never really serious about it
    It survived on AKB's momentum, and the staff probably got stubborn about making it work
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:02
    Yasushi Akimoto just mass-produces idol groups like it's a numbers game
    48AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:06
    Has Fuji had a hit at anything besides idols recently?
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:12
    Re: #48
    Silent (2022)
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:15
    Shoujotai
    Ikko Club
    Bakumatsu Juku
    BANANA
    Nezumikko Club
    Suitei Shoujo
    AKB48
    SKE48
    SDN48
    NMB48
    HKT48
    Nogizaka46
    JKT48
    SNH48
    Thinking Dogs
    NGT48
    Keyakizaka46 (now Sakurazaka46)
    Hiragana Keyaki (now Hinatazaka46)
    22/7
    BNK48
    STU48
    Last Idol
    Gekidan 4 Dollar 50 Cent
    TPE48 (now AKB48 Team TP)
    Seishun Gakko 3-nen C-gumi
    MNL48
    AKB48 TeamSH
    High School Children
    Yoshimotozaka46
    IZ*ONE
    SGO48
    The Coin Lockers
    CGM48
    DEL48
    MUB48
    Watashi ga Joyuu ni Naru Hi
    Blueberry Soda
    Boku ga Mitakatta Aozora
    SHOW-WA
    MATSURI
    WHITE SCORPION
    Fujikozu
    Tabekko Kids
    Rain Tree
    Cloud ten
    Rinku Nishiyama
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:16
    Re: #55
    Like, how many of these did you make?
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:22
    Re: #55
    This is rough
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:19
    Re: #56
    The Tsunku Victims' Association (fans burned by producer Tsunku) doesn't stand a chance against the Yasushi Akimoto Victims' Association
    60AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:20
    Tsunku's an Akimoto fanboy too, isn't he
    61AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:21
    Nana Nakayama and Momoko Hashimoto, who worked in both Hello! Project and Akimoto-affiliated groups, are the strongest
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:25
    The fact that Nao Asahina is the only survivor from Idoling!!! really says something
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:28
    Ami Kikuchi's still around too
    Once she's done raising her kids she'll swap back in
    66AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:28
    It was such a waste with Ms. Tanizawa from Idoling
    Retiring to marry a TV producer — genuinely a shame

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Onyanko Club was an idol group born out of a late-night Fuji TV program in the mid-1980s, and is well known for having been produced by Yasushi Akimoto. After the group disbanded, successor groups like Ribbon and CoCo were planned, but neither reproduced success on the same scale. It’s easy to overlook that groups like AKB48 and Nogizaka46, which came up repeatedly in the thread, are projects from a separate production company involving Akimoto, run under a different structure than Onyanko Club or Idoling!!!, which were produced in-house by Fuji TV itself. The coexistence of the view that “things hit when Akimoto’s involved” and the view that “Akimoto hates the standard playbook and often misses” comes down to whether you measure success by sales, name recognition, or how long a group lasted.

    ※This article was compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Fuji TV really did mass-produce good idol groups, huh.”

  • Underground Idol Group’s Nijigasaki Parody Sparks Debate: Theft or Tribute?

    On 5ch’s Love Live! board, controversy erupted after an underground idol group ran a promotional event parodying a live show by Nijigasaki High School Idol Club — sparking protests from hardcore Nijigasaki fans known as “Niji-shin.” Some posters argued the flyer design and song titles were copied so closely it amounted to outright plagiarism, while others countered that the poses and costumes fall well within the industry’s common visual vocabulary and saw nothing wrong with it. The thread split sharply over where parody ends and homage begins.

    Don’t get so worked up over a parody like this…

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:35
    These are otaku obsessed with an anime about idols, yet they look down on actual idols — so it's probably more like, 'how dare some lowly underground idol group parody the almighty Nijigasaki.'
    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:38
    What is going on with Pikaere's sense of ethics, seriously
    5AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:39
    The details match exactly, and they even used the same song titles — that's straight-up theft, so I get why people are mad.
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:40
    By the way, looks like Nijigasaki itself has done some copying too

    https://x.com/MrCupCakeP/status/2092678731047252219
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:32
    If Nijigasaki's going to demand an apology from the underground idol group, they should apologize to iDOLM@STER too Re: #7
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:41
    Figured this was just people picking a fight, but it's actually pretty blatant.
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:41
    Did Nijigasaki kill Myo-san's parents or something?
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:43
    Niji-shin fans are way too obsessive, honestly kind of scary.
    Are they prepared to get grilled the same way if the roles were reversed?
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:43
    If it were just the live show's title, fine, but
    the flyer design is a total copy on top of that,
    and even after the 'correction' it's still copied — that's a real problem.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:43
    The composition's different too, and this kind of costume is pretty common in the genre, so some resemblance is unavoidable, don't you think?
    If 'resembles another work' automatically means it's not allowed, then the Superstar!! merch with the angel/devil motif that was popular among Nijigasaki fans would count as copying too, right?
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:43
    First off, they should be grateful someone even bothered to parody them.
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:45
    If anything it reads as respect to me… but I guess to a Niji-shin, respect from some lowly underground idol group isn't respect at all.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:46
    'The composition's different too' ← how exactly are you looking at this lol
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:46
    The fact that they copied the flyer and then quietly edited it proves they never got permission, so how is that supposed to count as respect for the content?
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:47
    Love Live! Straight-Up Copies a Chinese Manufacturer's Costume → Chinese Fans Go Ballistic! Official Account Gets Mass-Brigaded and Flamed : Oreteki Game Sokuho @ Yaiba https://share.google/CkzAfnJVf9eZWoe0M

    Pikaere's clearly doing this on purpose — there's already precedent of Superstar!! ('Spasta') making the news for this exact thing







    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:49
    The moment Nijigasaki itself started copying costumes,
    Pikaere was fully intent on steering the conversation toward Re: #18.
    This guy is seriously anti-Superstar!!.
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:05
    Re: #41
    I mean, for Superstar!! it was the official side doing Re: #18 in the first place…
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:49
    Don't get all bent out of shape over some 1,000-2,000 yen live show.
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:50
    If Nijigasaki's management doesn't act, the Niji-shin fans are going to crush these idols completely on their own.
    Nijigasaki's management should really put out a statement.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:51
    Nijigasaki doesn't even do live shows of its own,
    so Niji-shin fans should just be grateful, honestly.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:57
    Looks like they've covered Printemps songs too, so it seems like they just genuinely love Love Live! — kind of sad they're getting dogpiled this hard.
    https://x.com/aozorawokimini/status/1561669087046303744
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:10
    Re: #29
    Getting genuinely furious over what some tiny, no-name idol group does is just small-minded.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:58
    By the way, this is what they put out after deleting the Nijigasaki stuff

    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:02
    Re: #32
    That's pretty funny honestly.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:11
    Wish people would have a bit more of a big heart about this.
    That's how the strong are supposed to behave, isn't it.
    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:16
    Re: #51
    People with big hearts don't do illegal streaming, harassment, or defamation.
    They don't post sneering comments or leak pirated videos either.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:27
    Re: #2
    This thread's looking down on underground idols too, huh.
    So does that make everyone on the Love Live board a Niji-shin?!
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:29
    Re: #68
    Honestly feels like a lot of people here do like Nijigasaki — I mean, most active Love Live fans these days are into Nijigasaki anyway.
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:30
    Re: #70
    If most people supposedly love Nijigasaki, then why are CD sales only 2,000 copies?
    73AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:31
    Re: #70
    Yeah, that's true, but still…
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:36
    Also, they should apologize to Ai Kawashima over 'Kaika Sengen' ('Blooming Declaration'), which rips off her song 'Ashita e no Hikari' ('Light to Tomorrow').
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:42
    Re: #78
    Wasn't the Natsumi episode in Superstar!! season 2 said to rip off some movie or another?
    Did they ever apologize for that?
    Also, the song 'Kaika Sengen' actually resembles 'Ashita e no Tobira' ('Door to Tomorrow'), not that one.
    And Road of Major's 'Taisetsu na Mono' sounds a lot like 'Mahou Tsukai Hajimemashita' — was there ever an apology for that?

    Background and Points of Debate

    Underground idol groups running parodies that borrow flyer designs and staging from licensed franchises while performing original songs are nothing new, and these are usually done without official permission. In this case, opinions split between those who saw the close match in design and song titles as outright “theft” and those who viewed it as “tribute,” an extension of derivative-work culture. The thread also brought up past cases where another idol franchise’s costumes sparked imitation controversies on social media, framing this less as a one-off flare-up of emotion and more as an ongoing debate over where licensing rights end and parody begins. That said, as of this thread neither the underground idol group nor Nijigasaki’s management had issued any official comment.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Niji-shin Fans Go Ballistic Over Underground Idol Parody.”