Category: Entertainment

  • No Need to Take “That’s Just Your Opinion, Isn’t It?” Seriously… The Sorry End of “Evidence Sickness”

    An article in which Iwate Prefectural University associate professor Kazuya Sugitani criticized, in PRESIDENT Online, the trend of casually tossing around the phrase “That’s just your opinion, isn’t it?” while demanding numerical or data-backed proof for everything — dubbing it “evidence sickness” — became a hot topic on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board. The thread saw a clash between those arguing “of course data and evidence get demanded once you’re out in the working world” and skeptics countering that “numbers can be spun to manipulate impressions” and “demanding evidence for things that can’t be quantified is just sophistry,” with the debate continuing around examples like COVID statistics and cabinet approval rating polls.

    No Need to Take “That’s Just Your Opinion, Isn’t It?” Seriously… The End Result of “Evidence Sickness,” Which Measures Everything by Numbers | PRESIDENT Online

    PRESIDENT Online

    Kazuya Sugitani, Associate Professor, Faculty of Policy Studies, Iwate Prefectural University

    Source: president.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:39
    But data's the basics though
    80AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:31
    Re: #2
    Data and numbers are just reference points at best
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:39
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:41
    On 5ch, anything without a source is just personal opinion
    That's 5ch 101
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:42
    It's like pushing the edge pawn in shogi (a seemingly pointless, probing move)
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:43
    Numbers can be colored too
    Even with the same figure of 10 people, the impression changes depending on whether you say "as many as 10" or "only 10"
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:44
    If you can't tell when someone's "that's just your opinion" line is actually covering for a lie, you're going to have a hard time using social media
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:46
    There are things in this world that can be put into numbers and things that can't
    Demanding evidence for the things that can't is just sophistry
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:48
    People get called out like that because they talk about things that aren't facts as if they were facts
    There's nothing wrong with stating an opinion itself — in fact, without opinions there's no discussion at all
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:51
    Re: #1
    It's like pushing the edge pawn in shogi — this is exactly what Yoshiharu Habu and others meant when they talked about the importance of making a seemingly useless move to keep an option in reserve.
    This post is a genuinely incisive critique of today's "evidence supremacism" (evidence sickness).
    The observation that you don't need to take "that's just your opinion, isn't it?" at face value, tied together with the shogi concept of the "edge pawn" (hashifu) and the strategic philosophy of 9-dan Yoshiharu Habu, forms a strong counterargument to a modern society obsessed with efficiency and data.
    If we break this structure down a bit, some deeper meaning starts to emerge, like the following:
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:01
    Re: #20
    Rather than pushing the edge pawn there, moving a piece you can still fine-tune later is also an option
    Be prepared for a repetition draw (sennichite) too

    You can't push a pawn like that without a solid tactical outlook
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:52
    Re: #2
    That's just your opinion, isn't it?
    Got data?
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:05
    Re: #22
    Once you're out in the working world, you'll be sick of how much data and evidence gets demanded for absolutely everything
    75AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:27
    Re: #52
    Nope
    It's passion
    Go get a job sometime, why don't you
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:32
    Re: #52
    Yeah, and that's exactly what this article is calling a sickness
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:52
    Wait, Iwate Prefectural University is even a thing?
    Sounds boring…
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:59
    There's no point listening to other people's opinions
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:05
    Re: #41
    That's way too extreme
    The only truths in this world are math and religion
    They count as truth precisely because they don't exist in this world
    In the strict sense, everything else is just opinion
    Even the laws of physics are just opinion
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:03
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:04
    But data's important, you know?
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:13
    Re: #50
    Whether Sankei Shimbun's cabinet approval poll numbers can even count as evidence is the real question

    The danger with evidence supremacists is that they might push something through as if it were grounds for an argument when it isn't
    56AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:07
    Because you can use data selectively to bend things your way
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:10
    Re: #56
    Lies, damned lies, and statistics, right

    COVID case counts, unvaccinated, unknown (vaccinated but filed as unvaccinated), vaccinated
    Statistical data pulls this kind of deliberate, arbitrary trick too
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:20
    No Need to Take "That's Just Your Opinion, Isn't It?" Seriously — The End Result of "Evidence Sickness," Which Measures Everything by Numbers

    Kazuya Sugitani, Associate Professor, Faculty of Policy Studies, Iwate Prefectural University

    Isn't that just your opinion, Mr. Sugitani?
    73AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:23
    Re: #70
    Opinions chain on infinitely
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:26
    Without data to back it up, it's still just "that's your opinion, right?" — nothing's changed.
    84AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:35
    Re: #74
    Thing is, most people can't actually understand what that data means…
    The ones who think they get it are the most dangerous
    76AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:27
    If someone says that to you, just blink rapidly and act suspicious
    78AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:28
    Re: #76
    What reptile are you, exactly?
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:32
    Nah, it's fun watching people get hit back with "that's not an opinion, there's data for it"
    87AnonymousOct 3, 2026 15:36
    Re: #83
    Then it turns into a flow of emotionally denying that data

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    “That’s just your opinion, isn’t it?” is a phrase commonly used in online gotcha-style debates, and Kazuya Sugitani (associate professor at Iwate Prefectural University) criticized the trend of overusing it in PRESIDENT Online, dubbing it “evidence sickness.” The key issue is that the drive to quantify everything ends up using demands for data to shut down value judgments that were never meant to be quantifiable in the first place. The thread split between the practical view that “data is essential once you’re in the working world” and the skeptical view that “data, too, can be selectively processed and presented.” Using examples like COVID infection statistics and cabinet approval rating polls, commenters also pointed out that numbers themselves aren’t necessarily neutral. One thing readers can easily misread is that the article isn’t arguing “data is unnecessary” — Sugitani’s point is skepticism toward the casual demand for evidence even on matters that can’t be quantified, and the thread never quite spells out that data and opinion/experience aren’t opposites but complementary.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Main Thread] No Need to Take “That’s Just Your Opinion, Isn’t It?” Seriously… The End Result of “Evidence Sickness,” Which Measures Everything by Numbers.”

  • Mom brings her 3- and 5-year-old to Afghanistan — when called out over the government’s evacuation advisory, YouTuber claps back: “The Foreign Ministry? Can’t really trust them~”

    Yuri, the YouTuber behind “Dokonjo Yuri’s Mother-Child Travels,” who documents trips with her two kids, reported on Threads that she had entered Afghanistan with her 3- and 5-year-old children. Japan’s Foreign Ministry has issued an evacuation advisory for the entire country, but when criticized, Yuri shot back, “The Foreign Ministry? Can’t really trust them~”, sparking a wave of backlash. On a 5ch Geinou/Sports Express+ (entertainment and sports news board) thread, users debated the security risks under Taliban rule, comparisons to past Japanese hostage incidents, whether it’s right to bring kids along, and the question of personal responsibility.

    On September 30, Yuri of “Dokonjo Yuri’s Mother-Child Travels” (4,600 subscribers), who posts about traveling with her two kids, reported on Threads that she had arrived in Afghanistan with her 3- and 5-year-old children. After facing criticism for bringing children into a country under a nationwide Foreign Ministry evacuation advisory, Yuri shot back, “The Foreign Ministry? Can’t really trust them~”, which only fueled the backlash further.

    A “mother-child journey” around the world with two kids

    Yuri launched her YouTube channel in April 2025, documenting trips around the world under the theme of a “mother-child journey” with her two children. In her very first self-introduction video, she revealed that alongside running a photo-candle brand, she had “recently started working as a hostess at a cabaret club too,” and said her dream was to visit all 196 countries in the world.

    Source: yutura.net / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:45
    Does she even know the local laws about women over there?
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:46
    Nobody who puts their kids on camera like this turns out to be a decent person.
    That's just a universal law.
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:46
    She'll do literally anything for money, won't she.
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:47
    I heard that back when the comedy duo Saruganseki did their famous hitchhiking trip, some copycat got kidnapped and the Foreign Ministry had a real mess on its hands.
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:53
    Re: #6
    In the actually dangerous zones, Saruganseki took a plane though.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:47
    Honestly, I just feel sorry for the kids.
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:48
    She'll probably get dragged through the mud online — the real worry is what happens to the kids.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:48
    Only 4,600 subscribers?
    I wish the media would just stop covering her.
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:49
    A million views but only 4,600 subscribers, lol.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:49
    Hey, anyone out there making a living off kidnapping — here's your big chance.
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:50
    Eh, don't worry, if it comes down to it she'll just whip out the Article 9 barrier. (a sarcastic meme about Japan's pacifist constitution magically protecting citizens abroad)
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:51
    Honestly, she's free to do what she wants, and the odds of anything actually happening are probably low.
    But if she's going to talk that big, then if something does happen, don't go asking for help — that's our tax money.
    75AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:01
    Re: #28
    And here comes the "muh taxes" guy, right on cue~
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:51
    As long as she's not planning to lean on the embassy or the Foreign Ministry if something happens, sure, fine.
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:52
    Everyone's piling on with "poor kids," but in a few years those same kids will probably be doing the exact same thing — not even funny.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:52
    Come to think of it
    there used to be people called the "Three Idiots" (nickname for the 2004 Japanese hostages in Iraq)
    I wonder
    if they're still doing okay these days (´・ω・`)
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:53
    If she gets taken hostage, the Japanese government's going to get dragged into negotiations, right?
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:54
    Re: #35
    Wasn't that Imai?
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:53
    Oh yeah, there was also one that came with a "movement range" map attached

    well, if it's just a "just kidding" fake, I guess that's fine.
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:53
    There's precedent for idiots getting captured by terrorists exactly like that, you know.
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:53
    I bet she figures even taking a bullet wouldn't actually k*ll her. ("タヒ" is 2ch/5ch slang spelling out "death" to dodge word filters)
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:55
    If you think they can't be relied on, shouldn't that make you even more careful about going?
    51AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:55
    > 4,600 subscribers

    Yep. Case closed, everybody go home.
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:55
    Ecuador Tetsuo: questioning common sense, going out in a blaze of glory, butt-first. (an opaque 5ch in-joke/meme reference — exact origin unclear)
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:03
    Whatever trouble she runs into, it's on her — personal responsibility.

    Background and key points of the debate

    Japan’s Foreign Ministry overseas safety advisory has placed all of Afghanistan at the highest risk level, meaning travel to the country itself is widely considered a high-risk act. The 2004 hostage-taking of Japanese nationals in Iraq referenced in the thread (the case of Noriaki Imai, who survived, and Shosei Koda, who was killed) was the incident that first sparked widespread debate over “personal responsibility” for Japanese citizens traveling to dangerous regions, and the same framing was repeatedly invoked again in this controversy. Whether it’s acceptable for the YouTuber herself to travel there, and whether it’s acceptable to bring minor children into a dangerous region, are technically separate questions — but within the thread the two got tangled together, which is largely why opinions ended up so split.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “Mom brings her 3- and 5-year-old to Afghanistan — when called out over the government’s evacuation advisory, YouTuber claps back: “The Foreign Ministry? Can’t really trust them~”.”

  • Jun-ichi Kawamoto Discharged From Hospital — But 5ch Can’t Stop Talking About His Old Welfare Scandal

    Jun-ichi Kawamoto (51), of the comedy duo “Jicho Kacho,” was discharged from the hospital on October 3 after being admitted for pancreatic trouble, commenting, “I hope to get back to doing comedy once I’ve gradually rebuilt my strength.” On the 5ch Entertainment/Sports News+ thread reacting to the news, comments dwelling on his 2012 welfare-fraud scandal outnumbered simple get-well wishes. Users were split over why his image still hasn’t recovered despite his apology and repayment of the benefits, as well as over his TikTok activity and whether he should keep appearing on TV — with only a handful offering straightforward support for his comeback.

    Jun-ichi Kawamoto discharged from hospital: “I hope to get back to comedy as I gradually regain my strength” – Nikkan Sports

    October 3, 2026, 11:22 AM

    Jun-ichi Kawamoto (51), of “Jicho Kacho,” who had been hospitalized for pancreatic trouble, announced on the 3rd that he has been discharged.

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:44
    They call it comedy, but Yoshimoto comedians these days are nothing but unfunny and unpleasant.
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:44
    He apologized and even repaid the money, yet people still hate him over his mother's welfare-fraud scandal — makes you wonder what response, right after it broke, could've actually brought his image back to neutral.
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:48
    Re: #4
    He should've just ignored the internet.
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:50
    Re: #4
    How far back did the repayment go? Didn't know that detail.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:52
    Re: #4
    After the welfare fraud ("namapo," slang for illegally claiming welfare) got exposed, lashing out on Twitter was the fatal mistake.

    That's what finished him off for good.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:51
    Kajiwara got away with it so cleanly though.
    33AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:58
    Re: #17
    Did he really get away with it though? He's just barely scraping by — there's no way he can ever show his face again in front of anyone who knows him from the mainstream entertainment world. I'd say he just fell into the shadier side of the business, that's all.
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:55
    Tough to watch. He keeps surviving no matter what, all thanks to Sanma.
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:56
    Well, might as well have a drink and take it easy while he recovers.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:57
    If a comedian gets sick, there's nothing funny left — just retire already.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:59
    Guess there's no hospital food fit to feed a guy like you, huh?
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:01
    If he goes straight from the hospital onto some big-eating show, that's peak entertainer behavior for you. He'll probably keep playing the sympathetic underdog — milking illness and mental-health stories while rambling on about farming.
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:02
    Re: #1
    Is eating too much tanmen (ramen-style noodle soup) bad for your pancreas?
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:04
    I saw that photo of Kawamoto and Date together in the hospital room too — Kawamoto looked pretty rough.
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:05
    That skit on Zenryoku Datsuryoku Times where he gets stumped by kids' edgy questions is getting stale already.
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:07
    Re: #13
    Makes you wonder if ignoring it even works in the internet age. It doesn't blow up into a huge firestorm, but your image just quietly rots and shrinks instead. Still, apology press conferences almost never actually succeed either, so maybe ignoring it really is the best option after all.
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:30
    Re: #46
    It's just bottom-feeders who want to screech online. Not that many of them — just leave them be.
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:24
    I catch him on TikTok Live every now and then — just a quick glimpse, but he was collaborating with some random woman lol.
    56AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:25
    He's not even on 'Komakasugite Tsutawaranai Monomane' (his one steady impressions show) anymore — guess he really can't do comedy at all now.
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:25
    Just take some Biofermin (a stomach probiotic) and call it a day (´・ω・`)

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    In 2012, it was reported that Jun-ichi Kawamoto’s mother, whom he lived with, had been receiving welfare benefits while he himself was earning a substantial income; he subsequently apologized and repaid the benefits received. The point of contention on the thread was why criticism still hasn’t died down even after the apology and repayment — some argued that mishandling the fallout on social media is what dragged it out, while others argued he should have simply ignored the online backlash from the start, leaving opinions divided on what the “correct” response to the firestorm would have been. Meanwhile, the news itself is simply a report of his discharge and recovery from pancreatic trouble, with no direct connection to the old welfare issue. What’s easy to miss from the article alone is that most of the thread’s criticism isn’t actually aimed at his current illness, but at events from more than a decade ago.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Jun-ichi Kawamoto discharged from hospital: “I hope to get back to comedy as I gradually regain my strength””.

  • Miki Fujimoto reveals her family of five’s weekly grocery bill: ¥27,000 — 5ch reacts: “That’s cheap! Thought it’d be ¥100,000”

    Talent Miki Fujimoto revealed a receipt for a week’s worth of groceries bought in bulk for her family of five — herself, husband Tomoharu Shoji, and their three kids — on the September 29 broadcast of “Otto ga Neta Ato ni” (Husband After He’s Asleep, TV Asahi). The haul filled three reusable shopping bags and came to about ¥27,000 in total. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board, reactions split over whether that amount is high or low for a family of five, with many posters comparing it to their own household’s food budget. The thread also buzzed with the shared experience that food costs balloon as kids get older, plus debate over whether bulk buying or frequent trips chasing sales saves more money.

    Miki Fujimoto reveals her family of five’s “one week of grocery costs” — shows receipt for buying “all at once” to fill three reusable bags; mother of three, married to Tomoharu Shoji

    Talent Miki Fujimoto appeared on the September 29 broadcast of TV Asahi’s “Otto ga Neta Ato ni” (airs Tuesdays at 0:15 late night), where she revealed a receipt for a week’s worth of groceries bought for her family of five.

    The show is a variety program focused on housework and childcare, co-hosted by Fujimoto and comedian Natsuko Yokozawa.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:26
    Re: #1
    Lol, Shoji's getting the "Sawa's good at dribbling" treatment here — just a token afterthought mention (a meme about giving someone minimal, throwaway credit)
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:28
    Surprisingly cheap, I thought — is that really normal?
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:31
    Re: #5
    ¥27,000/week for 5 people
    That's a bit over ¥100,000 for 4 weeks/a month

    Maybe about ¥20,000 above average
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:56
    Re: #5
    Once the kids get bigger it's nowhere near this
    For one, rice consumption gets insane
    Good thing rice got cheaper recently
    And they eat crazy amounts of side dishes
    Even a huge bulk buy disappears in seconds
    72AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:44
    Re: #5
    If you're good at cooking it's doable
    Especially for growing kids in the Kanto area, this is actually doing pretty well

    Even at my place in urban Kansai, with a family of 4 that has high-school and college-age boys, we easily spend ¥100,000 a month (not even counting the college kid eating out) — a bit over ¥20,000 a week is normal
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:30
    Jumped over but I can't find the receipt
    Where can I see it?
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:34
    I buy 10 days' worth at once
    Because if you go shopping too often you always end up buying stuff you don't need
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:41
    Re: #14
    I think buying frequently to catch sales works out cheaper than bulk buying
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:49
    Re: #19
    Think about the time cost
    Someone like Mikity earns tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of yen per hour
    73AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:47
    Re: #19
    If you're working and raising 3 kids, time spent shopping is the precious resource

    Also, the more trips to the supermarket, the more you end up buying stuff you don't need, so it evens out in the end

    Mikity's actually pretty smart
    She's got her feet on the ground
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:35
    ¥100,000 a month, huh
    Combined, the couple probably pulls in over ¥100 million a year
    That's on the cheap side, isn't it
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:38
    She's the daughter of a yakiniku (grilled-meat) restaurant owner, so beef is non-negotiable for her
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Impressive, she's good at shopping
    I'm single and I bet I spend over ¥15,000 a week
    And I don't even use Uber Eats or Demae-can (food delivery apps)
    With prices up, I've stopped caring about cost as an excuse
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:46
    Rich people eat out for lunch and dinner, so it's probably just the cost of bread for breakfast
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:49
    Re: #25
    Depends on the household budget breakdown
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:51
    Re: #28
    That person isn't even talking about Mikity
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:53
    That's cheap!
    I thought it'd be around ¥100,000
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:54
    You can tell she's doing it properly, so it's likeable.
    If she wanted to cut costs, she could probably get it down to half that
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:55
    Celebrities
    make huge money anyway
    so they should just buy as much as they want
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:55
    I'm single and I still drop about ¥5,000 a week
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:56
    Same with Tsuji-chan's place — it's tough when the main breadwinner is also the one doing all the shopping and cooking
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:56
    Never expected Mikity to get this popular
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:03
    Re: #41
    She did become the #1 most-disliked TV personality among male viewers though lol
    Guess she went all-in on appealing to women instead
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:58
    ¥104,000 over 4 weeks for a family of 5 seems cheap — maybe they get a lot of food as gifts?
    51AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:12
    Re: #43
    This is just what she bought in one supermarket run, after all — I bet eating out, sweets, and all sorts of other stuff add up separately on top of this
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:13
    Re: #43
    She says something like "I think this is about a week's worth?"
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:01
    Cheap for someone so in-demand
    Though that's probably the whole point of showing it off
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:03
    Re: #44
    Of course it's calculated
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:09
    Re: #46
    I can't believe Miki Fujimoto is popular with women
    I figured she was popular with men, former otaku types, same as Tsuji
    Not sure which demographic actually likes her
    90AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:38
    Re: #50
    She's popular with housewives
    Otherwise she wouldn't get picked as the image character for cleaning products
    In the first place, the people who like Mikity are the generation that already has families
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:37
    Isn't the real punchline that they eat out for dinner three times a week?
    78AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:11
    Re: #70
    Yeah, probably lol
    Like Uber Eats and stuff
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:41
    She's probably keeping it cheap for TV
    Tsuji does the same thing, buying Top Value (AEON's private brand) to make a good impression
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:14
    Re: #71
    Yeah, definitely
    Even the whole "always does her own shopping and cooking" thing might just be an image strategy for TV, right?
    This boosts her image, lands more mom-talent commercials, and she's laughing all the way to the bank
    Even here there are a lot of posts praising her

    Background and key points of this discussion

    What Miki Fujimoto showed was “the receipt from a single bulk-buying trip,” and posters in the thread pointed out that it doesn’t include money spent on eating out or prepared/takeout meals (#51). Because of that, the simple math of “¥100,000 over 4 weeks” (#10) may not match her family’s actual monthly food spending. Several posts also noted that celebrities revealing their household budgets on TV may be a staged, image-conscious move on the production’s part (#71, #83), making it hard to judge the real situation from the yen amount alone. Where opinions in the thread split was on the single question of whether “¥27,000 a week for a family of five” is high or low — views differed sharply depending on the age of one’s kids and regional price differences (#39, #72). The thing readers might easily misread is treating this figure as the full picture of the Fujimoto household’s food spending.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Entertainment] Miki Fujimoto reveals her family of five’s “one week of grocery costs,” shows receipt; mother of three, married to Tomoharu Shoji.”

  • Morning Musume Reportedly Second Only to Juice=Juice in Audience Size — 5ch: “That’s Like Two Tiers Above, Actually”

    Morning Musume’s 2026 fall tour holding roughly the same scale as the fast-rising Juice=Juice became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Posters initially pushed back with positive takes like “the venues are filling up decently,” but then data was posted showing an actual decline — from 66,336 total seats on the 2025 fall tour down to 57,541 for 2026, including a drop in per-show venue capacity — fueling a harsher view that the group is just coasting on past glory. When independent audience-count estimates were posted for comparison, the discussion flipped even further: far from being “the same scale,” Morning Musume was pegged as roughly two tiers above Juice=Juice, calling the entire premise of the thread title into question.

    1AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:48
    Every venue's filling up decently,
    and that's honestly despite the fact that Morning Musume isn't exactly on an upswing right now.
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:51
    Re: #1
    There are signs of a comeback, though.
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:51
    Re: #3
    Nope. Turns out a 1,200-capacity venue is apparently the "right size" for their fan club events now.
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:25
    Feels like they could make a comeback once Oda graduates.
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:26
    Re: #52
    The very first event after she leaves is the one in Re: #4, so no chance.
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:54
    Their baseline "group-oshi" vote (fans who support the whole group rather than one member) is huge. Hope Juice gets there too.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:55
    Re: #6
    Another thread was saying Juice=Juice's bar events only fill up because there are a lot of group-oshi fans running a "mutual aid circle" (互助会 — fans buying tickets to prop up each other's favorite members), not because the members are individually popular.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:55
    They played the "Oda's graduating" card for fall,
    so I think next year's going to be rough.
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:57
    Re: #8
    This spring ended up being Makino's graduation tour, but since it was originally planned as a "no graduations" tour, the scale got slashed hard compared to last spring.
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:52
    Re: #8
    Gen 17, 18, and 19 are about to blow up, just you wait.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:56
    Outside of Morning Musume, barely anyone even knows these groups.
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:57
    Re: #9
    These days even legacy groups can't hold onto name recognition without going viral on TikTok.
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:07
    Watching stuff like the singing contest, Musume. has looked pretty good lately.
    Their singing's rough, but they've got that unmistakable Musume-ness.
    Watching them is just plain fun — it really is Musume.
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    Re: #16
    They looked totally gassed out there.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    It's not actually holding at a high level —
    if anything it's being quietly scaled down.

    Morning Musume '26
    2025 Fall Tour (Haga & Yokoyama graduation, 33 shows) *halls
    Total capacity: 66,336 seats
    Average capacity per show: 2,010 seats
    ↓
    2026 Fall Tour (Oda graduation, 29 shows) *halls
    Total capacity: 57,541 seats (down 8,795 from last year)
    Average capacity per show: 1,984 seats (down 26 from last year)
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:12
    Re: #21
    Looking at Re: #17, even that nest egg seems to be steadily running out.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:11
    They're just living off past glory at this point.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:18
    Re: #21
    If you can still eat off past glory, that's all that matters, honestly.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:19
    Re: #32
    Not every show is selling out though, so they're not really "eating" off it.
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:21
    Re: #32
    Question is how much longer that nest egg lasts.
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    Panda: "Ah, good thing I'm Morning Musume." (a jokey 5ch quote format, not an actual panda)
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Re: #26
    Sapporo's not exactly selling out though.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    Juice=Juice has nowhere to go but down once Danbara graduates.
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Re: #28
    By then Okamura, Yamazaki, and Sakurai will probably have left too.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:19
    Musume's got a mountain of upbeat, crowd-pleasing songs to draw on, after all.
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:19
    Re: #34
    But their lives are boring, which is why the Blu-rays don't sell?
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:21
    Danbara's in the "Oda position," so she'll probably stick around until just before 30.
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:21
    Re: #35
    Someone who thinks you can't turn a profit without selling out?
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:22
    Re: #43
    Juice=Juice has been hearing that line for a while now.
    48AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:24
    Re: #1 "Same scale"????? The group that's actually the same scale as Juice is Angerme.


    Nogizaka46 2026 draw → 500,000

    NiziU 2026 draw → 240,000

    =LOVE 2026 draw → 220,000

    FRUITS ZIPPER 2026 draw → 200,000

    CUTIE STREET 2026 draw → 180,000

    AKB48 2026 draw → 170,000

    Morning Musume 2026 draw → 150,000 ←←←←← this one

    Juice=Juice 2026 draw → 100,000 ←←←←← this one

    Angerme 2026 draw → 90,000

    Momoiro Clover Z 2026 draw → 80,000
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:25
    Re: #48
    Morning Musume's like two tiers above, then.
    OP's a liar.
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:25
    Re: #48
    There's that much of a gap, huh…
    You'd need to fill Yokohama Arena three times over to catch up.
    68AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:33
    Re: #48
    Same tier as Angerme lol
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:25
    Morning Musume's in "nostalgia hit" territory at this point — same class as Hiroshi Itsuki or Southern All Stars.
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:26
    Re: #53
    That's an insult to Southern All Stars.
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:27
    Re: #53
    Nobody goes to a Morning Musume show for the nostalgia hits anyway — the old classics aren't even in the fall tour setlist.
    73AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:37
    Since they tour year-round, a group with a deep song catalog like Musume ends up winning out in the long run. The younger the group, the more their setlists repeat and the more limited their hype songs are. Hello! Project doesn't play the "double the venue size every tour" game, and I bet even new fans drawn in by flattering photos ("盛れ") will get bored of the same routine.
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:38
    Re: #73
    Then why don't Johnny's, Kawaii Lab (the agency behind groups like FRUITS ZIPPER), or Sashihara-produced idols ever get boring?
    77AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:40
    Re: #73
    If anything, "gets boring unless they change the songs" just proves it's only old-guard otaku left and there's no popularity with new fans. Truly popular idols draw people who just want to "go see the popular thing" — nobody's fussing over setlist variety.
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:42
    Re: #1
    Guess "Juice-scum" (汁カス, a mocking nickname for Juice=Juice fans) doesn't realize they're starting to get stale.
    86AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:44
    Re: #83
    Compare this↓
    [Sad News] Juice=Juice Room Tour 2026 "5ROOMS" Mikuni Kiryu Cultural Hall Silk Hall (Gunma) — general ticket sales sold out in 2 minutes lolololol
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1790989482/

    To this↓
    [Sad News] Morning Musume '25 fall tour: tickets for today's on-sale in Fukuoka and Hiroshima — and even Gunma, Mie, and Aichi — are sitting completely unsold lol
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1758938433/1

    1 Anonymous Wanted… 2025/09/27 (Sat) 11:00:33.57 0
    Gunma

    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:46
    Re: #86
    The biggest profit move would be handing Morning Musume's venues over to Juice.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “audience numbers” ranking quoted in the thread isn’t an official figure — it’s an independent estimate compiled by a 5ch user from each group’s number of tour dates and venue capacities, so the numbers would shift depending on the year or methodology used. With that in mind, the list in >>48, which compares groups like Nogizaka46 and NiziU, is probably best read as a rough "ballpark guide" rather than hard data. The venue-capacity comparison in >>17 (66,336 seats in fall 2025 → 57,541 in fall 2026, a drop of 8,795), on the other hand, is based on actual figures with show counts and hall names cited, making it considerably more reliable. The thread title’s claim of being “the same scale as Juice” left it ambiguous whether it meant the gut feeling of how full the venues look or the hard audience-count numbers, and that ambiguity is likely what drove pushback like >>50 and >>68 arguing that Morning Musume is actually above, not equal to, Juice=Juice. The upcoming graduations of Oda and Danbara — each group’s flagship member — also underlie the shared anxiety over how long either group can keep up its current scale.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Say what you will, but isn’t it actually impressive that Morning Musume can still pull off a tour the same size as today’s Juice=Juice?“.

  • Runners Threatening Pedestrians Around the Imperial Palace? Ward Launches Probe — 5ch: ‘He Screamed “Move It!” at Me Like Some Samurai-Drama Tyrant’

    Following a string of collisions and intimidation incidents between runners and pedestrians on the sidewalk circling the Imperial Palace, Chiyoda Ward has announced plans to conduct a fact-finding survey on runners’ manners, revealed during a ward assembly session. The survey will be carried out within this fiscal year, with the results informing possible measures such as additional warning signs and security cameras. On 5ch, one commenter recalled being screamed at with a “Move it, move it!” straight out of a samurai period drama, while calls for dedicated runner lanes drew pushback from users asking, “Don’t you get the difference between someone walking to work and someone training?” — splitting opinion over whether it’s the runners or the pedestrians who need to show more understanding.

    Chiyoda Ward to Investigate “Imperial Palace Running” Etiquette Violations Amid Wave of Complaints Over Intimidation and Collisions — Security Cameras Among Measures Considered

    Citing a continuing stream of reports of trouble between runners and pedestrians on the sidewalk around the Imperial Palace, Chiyoda Ward announced at a ward assembly session on the 1st that it plans to investigate manner violations by runners.

    According to the ward, the survey will be conducted within this fiscal year, and based on the results, measures such as additional warning signs and the installation of security cameras will be considered.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:03
    Wait, people are actually threatening others out there?
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:13
    Re: #2
    I've had someone yell at me like a tyrannical lord from a period drama — 'Heyyy! Move! Move it!'
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:03
    That's genuinely the worst.
    How is this any different from a biker gang terrorizing the streets?
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:04
    The Imperial Guard should just patrol the place while they're out on their walks.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:04
    Apparently groups even come in from far away just for this.
    It's basically a form of overtourism.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:04
    >'Because of a few people who don't follow the rules'
    Every hobby gets ruined by that handful of people.
    Though for some hobbies, the rule-breakers are actually the majority.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:05
    There are just way too many runners there to begin with.
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:05
    Runners are basically just an obstacle.
    Go run down the middle of the road instead.
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:07
    Going out of your way to run in air that polluted, then blocking pedestrians and threatening them on top of it — give me a break.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:07
    Isn't the air quality bad for running there anyway?
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    Re: #12
    Maybe all the trees around the Imperial Palace soak up the bad air or something?
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    Meanwhile, the Sumida River waterfront has seen a surge of runners too, turning it into the most lawless running spot in Tokyo.
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:30
    Re: #13
    That's a nuisance too.
    They should just split it into separate lanes for pedestrians, runners, and cyclists.
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:08
    They could just build a dedicated facility with a 5km loop for this.
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:09
    It's basically a hookup spot for the 'self-improvement' crowd.
    Security cameras actually sound like they'd help.
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:10
    Wait, there weren't already security cameras around the Imperial Palace?
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:21
    Re: #19
    Even ordinary residential neighborhoods have them these days, so it's hard to believe there are none there at all.
    I'm reading this as them adding new, more visible cameras specifically to deter runners.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:10
    Just another example of sports facilities built for the Tokyo Olympics going completely unused.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:10
    I once got told I was 'in the way' at Yoyogi Park, but honestly they need to stop those corporate-league runners from doing their high-speed training drills there.
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:10
    Re: #1
    Running there means sucking exhaust fumes into your lungs nonstop — I don't know how they do it.
    78AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:29
    Re: #22
    Diesel trucks don't run through there anymore, so the air's actually pretty clean these days.
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:12
    They could just go run loops around Odaiba instead — it's practically empty.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:12
    Some of these guys are already running before they even reach the Imperial Palace, starting as far back as Hanzomon.
    At least wait until you actually get there to start running.
    It's genuinely dangerous when a runner suddenly pops out around a blind corner.
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    Re: #25
    I run the sidewalk from Yotsuya.
    There's a public bathhouse near Yotsuya you can use as a 'run station' (a shower/changing spot for runners), if that counts for anything.
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:12
    There's also a jogging course inside Hibiya Park, right next to the Imperial Palace.
    https://sportsone.jp/running/course/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/002.jpg
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:13
    There's a big marathon event happening in my area this month, so there are people around here doing training runs for it too.
    The ones with bad manners won't move aside even when there are pedestrians, and they run at scary speeds.
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    A lot of people grow up watching marathon broadcasts and shows like the 24-Hour TV charity marathon, where runners are shown getting priority over regular pedestrians.

    They probably just end up carrying that mental image into everyday sidewalks.
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    Is it really that bad out there?
    These people have zero patience.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    Having some marathon jerk huff and puff right past you from the side is just gross — I wish they'd stop.
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:15
    >Setting up a dedicated zone for runners might be one way to avoid trouble

    Huh? Why would the ward need to do that?
    And if it's built with tax money, that's just ridiculous.
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:16
    Re: #36
    Pedestrian-only, bike-only, runner-only, and the regular road — the streets just keep getting carved up more and more.
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:24
    The area around Takebashi is seriously annoying.
    There's a spot where trashy runners hang around, and they swarm in at a crawling pace, just getting in everyone's way.
    69AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:26
    Re: #60
    The main hotspot is by the clock at Sakuradamon, but there are also plazas and parks right outside the subway exits at Hanzomon and Takebashi where people tend to gather — that's probably part of why crowds build up there too.
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:25
    It's not just idiot runners — there's also those road cyclists on the riverbank.
    They blow past you from behind at insane speeds.
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:28
    Re: #65
    You should report that to the police.
    A bicycle is legally a vehicle, after all.
    77AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:29
    You're all bashing runners, but have none of you ever screamed abuse at a fellow pedestrian while walking?
    Only people who've never once screamed at another pedestrian get to criticize runners.
    Idiots.
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:30
    Re: #77
    You don't even get the difference between running to get somewhere and running to train?
    You're the idiot here.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The loop around the Imperial Palace is roughly 5km with no traffic lights, making it easy to run — which has cemented its status as one of central Tokyo’s most popular running spots, drawing office workers and amateur runners from early morning onward. In response to the wave of complaints, Chiyoda Ward says it’s considering additional warning signs and security cameras, but these measures aren’t meant to restrict runners’ access itself — they’re aimed at deterring specific incidents like intimidation and collisions. The thread ranged from firsthand accounts of runners threatening pedestrians, to the theory that people are simply projecting the imagery from televised marathons onto everyday sidewalks, to debates over whether dedicated runner lanes should be built. This report alone doesn’t reveal the actual number of complaints or exactly how the survey will be conducted, so until the ward releases its findings, it’s worth remembering that a handful of anecdotes may not represent the full picture.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread ‘“Imperial Palace Running”: Ward to Investigate Runner Etiquette Violations Amid Wave of Complaints Over Intimidation and Collisions — Security Camera Installation Among Measures Considered‘.

  • Ayumi Hamasaki Announces Her 48th Birthday: “I’ve Reached Lv48” — 5ch Reacts: “She Was Still Lv16 When I First Saw Her”

    Singer Ayumi Hamasaki announced on Instagram on September 30 that she had turned 48. “I’ve reached Lv48! Sorry for being such an immature adult,” she wrote, striking her usual defiantly quirky pose. On 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports News+ board, the thread filled with nostalgic comments grouping her together with Hikaru Utada, Ringo Shiina, and aiko — all of whom made their major-label debut that same year, 1998, a lineup often called a “miracle year” — alongside reflections on time passing like “She was still Lv16 when I first saw her.” But plenty of posters also brought up her lack of recent hits, where her career stands now, and changes in her appearance, leaving her standing as a reigning diva up for debate.

    Ayumi Hamasaki: “I’ve Reached Lv48!” — Birthday Announcement Sparks a Wave of Well-Wishes: “My Eternal Idol,” “Grateful to Be Alive in the Same Era as Her”

    Singer Ayumi Hamasaki (48) updated her Instagram on the 30th to announce her birthday.

    “I’ve reached Lv48! Sorry for being such an immature adult (lol),” Hamasaki began. “Please forgive me for continuing to live as this oddly quirky, fun-loving weirdo,” she wrote.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:34
    Could you please level down by like 20 or 30
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:36
    Ayu doesn't seem like she'd be popular with gloomy nerds like you 5ch guys (inkya = slang for socially awkward "dark personality" types)
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:38
    Re: #4
    Well I'm not even a 5ch regular myself, so there, lol
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:47
    Re: #4
    She's never really been that big a hit with guys anyway
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:36
    Can't believe the girl who sang those songs is now a 48-year-old lady
    Life really is short
    45AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:21
    Re: #5
    Makes you wish you could live, like, 100,000 years (´・ω・`)
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:38
    Ayumi Hamasaki, Hikaru Utada, Ringo Shiina, and aiko
    All made their major-label debut in that same year, 1998
    A miracle year
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:38
    Her face has really changed into something else. Though honestly, you could've seen that coming
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:39
    She doesn't need the Westernized stage production, simple is fine — I just wish she'd sing good songs like she did in her early days
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    She was still LV16 when I first saw her
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    She's so cute, looks just like Suzu Hirose

    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:48
    Re: #12
    If you covered up the name, I wouldn't even guess that was Hama-san
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:04
    Re: #12
    She deserves credit for basically driving the tanned "gal" look to near-extinction
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:49
    Guess we won't get to see Hama-san's flying stage shows anymore?
    (´・ω・`)
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:50
    Hama-san, you've really changed since the custard snack-cake commercial days
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:52
    Must be nice to get to live doing what you love
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:52
    Getting older and older, tough fighting against aging, huh Hamasaki-san
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:52
    I wonder when and who first started calling their own age a "level"
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:00
    Wait, she's younger than me now somehow
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:02
    She hasn't had a hit in like 20 years now, right?
    At that point she's basically an enka singer (enka = traditional Japanese ballads, a genre associated with veteran singers who tour without chart hits)
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:02
    Wait, Ayu is now 2 years older than Kozo Murashita ever got to be (singer-songwriter who died at 46)
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:03
    The cap is 25, so I'm 23 limit-breaks past that (joke using gacha-game terms — women often joke their age "caps out" at 25, then just tally repeat upgrades beyond it)
    33AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:07
    Is her face's "version number" higher than 48, or about the same?
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:09
    Every time the fans hype her up saying she's gorgeous and doesn't look 48 at all,
    she takes it to heart and keeps right on with her
    endless remodeling maintenance routine
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:09
    Both Hikaru Utada and Hamasaki have had way too much drama in their lives, it's fascinating — unlike the tens of thousands of washed-up idols out there with nothing going on, totally hollow, just money, money, money
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:17
    Re: #36
    Same goes for Namie Amuro. Probably gets less spotlight these days because she's just seen as one member among idol groups now
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:10
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:33
    Re: #37
    Is that Megumi Okina on the left?
    68AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:52
    Re: #37
    Wait, is this seriously the same person? That's a different person, right?
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:14
    Re: #37
    Would facial recognition even still work on her?
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:21
    I'm from the Hamasaki generation but neither her as a person nor her music ever did anything for me
    I genuinely don't get why she was so popular
    Sure, her face is flashy and well put together, and she's not a bad singer
    If we're just talking "different strokes for different folks" and she sold decently, fine, I could understand that much
    But to the public she's treated as a "diva," basically an artist who supposedly hit the peak and defined an era
    If that's the case, I feel like there should be some universal appeal that makes people feel that way, but I just don't get it at all
    If I had to pick one, I guess "SEASONS" is a song I can at least listen to
    79AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:28
    Re: #46
    I'm from the same generation and never really got what was so great about her either, but her very first album, from back when she was dating that avex "rat guy" (nickname for her former producer/boyfriend, said to resemble a mouse), seemed to be the good one
    That's the impression I got listening on YouTube
    Her face has also started looking more like that avex "rat guy," with that stretched philtrum look
    Guess it's true that couples end up resembling each other
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:30
    Ayu "scooped" me up and saved me (pun: sukuu means both "to save" and "to scoop," setting up the goldfish joke below)
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:31
    Re: #54
    A goldfish scooped up at a festival stall, maybe?
    61AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:33
    https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m69301517720_1.jpg
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:29
    Re: #61
    Full-on delinquent gyaru energy

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Ayumi Hamasaki made her major-label debut in 1998 with “poker FACE,” and is often discussed as part of the “miracle year” generation alongside fellow 1998 debutantes Hikaru Utada, Ringo Shiina, and aiko. In the thread, opinions split along lines of comparison with these peers and whether she’s still landing hits, with posters disagreeing on where her career currently stands. Her choice to describe her birthday as reaching “Lv48” is a self-deprecating way of framing her age like a video-game level — a style of self-expression Hamasaki has used before. The comments about cosmetic surgery and changes in her appearance that stood out in the thread weren’t really reactions to the content of her post itself, but appearance judgments drawn from comparisons with old photos — worth noting there’s some distance between the “birthday announcement” the article reports and the points readers are actually reacting to.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Ayumi Hamasaki Announces Her 48th Birthday: “I’ve Reached Lv48!” — Wave of Well-Wishes: “My Eternal Idol,” “Grateful to Live in the Same Era as Her”.”

  • Lupin III 55th Anniversary ‘Best Episodes’ Picks: Fan-Voted #1 Episode Revealed for Each Series, Airing October 3

    “Lupin III,” marking 55 years since the series began airing in 1971, is getting a commemorative “Best Episodes Selection” special, airing on Nippon TV starting late night on October 3. Chosen by fan vote from all 316 episodes, the #1 pick for each series was: Episode 1 for PART1; “Farewell, My Beloved Lupin,” directed by Hayao Miyazaki, for PART2; “Gold Calls for Lupin” for PART III; “The Marriage of Lupin III” for PART4; the final episode for PART5; the episode marking voice actor Kiyoshi Kobayashi’s retirement for PART6; and Episode 1 for “The Woman Called Fujiko Mine.” In the thread, discussion split between reactions that misread the voting scope (mistaking it for one that included the theatrical film “The Castle of Cagliostro”), pushback against how Miyazaki-directed episodes tend to land near the top, and disagreement over “which series counts as the ‘real’ Lupin.”

    As a commemorative project for “Lupin III,” marking 55 years since the first TV anime episode aired in 1971, “Lupin III Best Episodes Selection,” in which fans voted to decide which episodes would air, begins broadcasting on Nippon TV every Saturday late night starting October 3. To coincide with the broadcast start, the #1-ranked episode in each series, chosen from a total of 316 episodes, has been announced.

    “Lupin III Best Episodes Selection” is set to air 13 episodes in total: the top 2 episodes from each of the TV series “PART1” through “PART6,” plus the #1 episode from the spin-off “LUPIN the Third: The Woman Called Fujiko Mine.” The #1 spot in all 7 series went to whichever episode was already leading at the interim results announced in August, with no changes at the finish line.

    The final #1 picks were: for “PART1,” the landmark Episode 1, “Is Lupin Burning…?!”; for “PART2,” “Farewell, My Beloved Lupin,” directed by Hayao Miyazaki under the pseudonym Tsutomu Teruoka; for “PART III,” “Gold Calls for Lupin”; from “PART4,” “The Marriage of Lupin III”; from “PART5,” the final episode, “Lupin III Forever”; from “PART6,” “EPISODE 0 – The Era -,” the episode marking the retirement of Kiyoshi Kobayashi, who voiced Jigen Daisuke for roughly 50 years; and from “The Woman Called Fujiko Mine,” Episode 1, “Master Thief vs. Female Phantom Thief.” The remaining six episodes will only be revealed once they actually air.

    Source: cinematoday.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:51
    Cagliostro wins no matter what, right?
    48AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:50
    Re: #2
    It's a TV anime popularity poll, though.
    90AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:40
    Re: #2
    Cagliostro lost to Mamo lol (the villain from "The Mystery of Mamo" movie)
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:54
    Only the first series is real Lupin.
    Everything else, Cagliostro included, doesn't count as Lupin.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:05
    Re: #6
    By that logic the first series has its own original spin on things too, so it's not "real" Lupin either.
    Only the original manga is real Lupin.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:21
    Re: #17
    Monkey Punch himself was such a big-hearted guy, telling creators "just do it your own way," and yet lol

    Monkey Punch wanted everyone — including himself as the original author — to do their own thing, but he seems to have been frustrated that most people only make watered-down Miyazaki knockoffs, with a lot of fans refusing to accept anything outside the Miyazaki lineage
    (It's a famous story, but there was that time he tried doing it his own way as the original creator and the staff told him it wasn't "real" Lupin)

    Re: #6
    Even within the first series, Osumi's episodes and Miyazaki's episodes go in pretty different directions.
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:49
    Re: #6
    Right. Osumi is supreme. Cagliostro is at the bottom. They should just make a sequel to the Lupin vs. Conan movie and THE FIRST instead.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:55
    Wasn't there an episode where the characters were basically straight out of Laputa (Castle in the Sky)?
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:57
    Re: #7
    The one with Maki Koyamada.
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:58
    There used to be this old guy from Arizona — an American who reviewed Japanese anime — who said he watched all of Lupin III, TV series and movies included, and in the end Cagliostro was still the most fun.
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:49
    Not much different from the 50th-anniversary "Kin-Ro" (Friday Road Show) best-episodes special.

    According to the official site, they're also putting out a digitally remastered disc of the old Lupin series.
    Next year marks half a century since PART2 aired, but that doesn't seem to be connected to this.

    Re: #10
    That's one of those clips that gets recycled over and over with random subtitles slapped on.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:00
    Wild — neither the article nor the official site says what time on the 3rd it actually airs.
    51AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:52
    Re: #12
    Same here. I checked the official site after October started and there was nothing new, just the disc release and merch design reveals — no voting results — so I was wondering what was going on.
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:01
    Well, but now that we're in an era where people scream "source-material rape" (fan slang for adaptations seen as betraying the original) at any liberty taken, talents like Miyazaki probably won't come along again.
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:07
    Re: #13
    Like with Detective Conan — there are people who straight-up say "I made the boring source material interesting." That generation (Tomino, Dezaki) had the mindset that the source material is just raw material, and the anime is the director's own work.
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:08
    Is there a thing where people insist Lupin has to be voiced by Yasuo Yamada or nobody?
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:11
    Re: #23
    The impersonator-comedian who took over the role is at an age where it wouldn't be shocking if he died any day now, so they'll need to go find yet another impersonator-comedian next.
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:27
    Re: #23
    That's only a tiny handful of weirdos.
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:01
    Re: #23
    Re: #42
    There are actually a ton of them.
    Even I still find Kurita Kan'ichi's (nicknamed "Kurikan," the current Lupin voice actor) half-hearted impression-style voice a bit off.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:17
    Apparently Lupin is always in disguise, and even his "official" face is actually just another disguise — nobody's ever seen his real one.
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:25
    Re: #28
    "Official" or not, in the original manga the setting is that "even that familiar face is a disguise, and we don't even really know his gender" (there's exactly one character who knows Lupin's true face, and there's a story where Zenigata goes to ask that character about it). Face aside, the gender thing feels like a stretch lol.
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:22
    Airing just this lopsided selection doesn't seem like it accomplishes much…
    People who already know the series will find these episodes too famous already, and people who don't know it will just be totally lost if they suddenly watch the PART2 finale out of nowhere.
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:11
    Re: #37
    It's faster to just dig through the character-focused episode compilations TMS Entertainment posts for free on YouTube.
    Everything except the Miyazaki episodes and "The Woman Called Fujiko Mine" shows up there.

    Search "TMS official Lupin III" on YouTube and you'll get a whole lineup of official Lupin III uploads.
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:23
    Give the Fuma Clan arc some love.
    It's well put together and I really like it.
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:53
    Re: #38
    The Fuma arc has decent voice acting too, and the treasure is just plain old gold-and-silver treasure, which I like.
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:35
    What about "Albatross, Wings of Death"?
    75AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:18
    Re: #43
    Isn't that the #2 pick?
    56AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:59
    "Farewell, My Beloved Lupin" barely even has Lupin in it, though.
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:02
    Re: #56
    Go watch it again.
    Lupin's on screen non-stop from the very start.
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:59
    Lupin has no connection whatsoever to Arsène Lupin — he's just an ordinary Japanese guy, you know.
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:12
    Re: #57
    In the original early setting: there's Edogawa Ranpo's novel "The Golden Mask" (whose true identity is Arsène Lupin), and Lupin III is the grandson of Arsène Lupin — the son of a child Arsène had with a Japanese woman.
    61AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:05
    Re: #1
    If we're talking about the first series, it should be Episode 2, "The Man Called a Magician."
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:41
    Re: #61
    Right?
    Well, in polls like this Episode 1 always has an edge.
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:07
    "Farewell, My Beloved Lupin" is already too famous — for PART2 I wanted to discover some other hidden gems instead.
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:12
    Re: #64
    There's kind of a "just default to Miyazaki" vibe to it, yeah.
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:30
    Is Miyazaki's Lupin really that good?
    He seems to win #1 every single time.
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:31
    Re: #81
    It's just people who haven't actually watched it properly voting for it purely because it's Miyazaki.
    87AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:36
    If they'd done one single combined vote across every series, PART4 through 6 would probably get shut out entirely, but they have to include them to push the newer voice cast.
    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:39
    Re: #87
    Even PART III is shaky.
    PART4 onward, people don't even know it exists.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This vote covered only the TV series (PART1 through 6) and the spin-off, not the theatrical films — “The Castle of Cagliostro” was never part of the tally to begin with. The thread’s “Cagliostro lost” reactions stem from that mismatched premise, and it’s worth flagging that this isn’t made clear in the article itself: it’s a separate count from any theatrical-film popularity contest. The tendency for Hayao Miyazaki-directed episodes like “Farewell, My Beloved Lupin” to rank at the top across multiple series also appears to reflect the director’s fame and later critical reappraisal, which is what drove the thread’s pushback against a “just default to Miyazaki” mood. The fact that the episode marking Kiyoshi Kobayashi’s retirement — after voicing Jigen for nearly 50 years — was chosen to represent PART6 also lines up with a genuine production-side milestone: a cast change within the series. The final results simply locked in whatever was leading at the August interim announcement, with no reversals in the final rankings.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread ““Lupin III” 55th Anniversary Best Episodes Selection: Final #1 Picks by Series Announced, Airing from October 3.”

  • Uchimura Teruyoshi and the “Dover Strait Swim Team” from Ucchan Nanchan’s “Urinari!!” Reunite 28 Years Later — Group Photo Sparks a Wave of Nostalgia

    Late on the night of October 2, 2026, actor Horibe Keisuke posted a photo on his own X account showing the members of the “Dover Strait Swim Team,” the beloved segment from the Nippon TV variety show “Ucchan Nanchan’s Urinari!!” Marking the 28-year milestone since the show went off the air, the reunion set off a wave of posts on 5ch fondly recalling familiar faces like Uchimura Teruyoshi, Udo Suzuki, Hamaguchi Yu, and Chiaki. At the same time, some younger users admitted “I don’t recognize most of these people,” sparking a string of replies filling each other in on the backgrounds of era members like Kamio Yone and Fujii Takahiko. Posters also tried to identify figures in the photo and expressed surprise at just how far Horibe’s acting career has come.

    Uchimura Teruyoshi’s “Dover Strait Swim Team” Reunites After 28 Years — Group Photo Sparks Joyful Reactions

    Actor and TV personality Horibe Keisuke updated his X account late on the night of the 2nd.

    He posted a photo of the members of “Dover Strait Swim Team,” the popular segment within the former Nippon TV variety show “Ucchan Nanchan’s Urinari!!”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:23
    I don't recognize anyone here
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:27
    Re: #3
    That's just ignorance for you
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:24
    I only recognize Uchimura, Udo, Hamaguchi, and Chiaki
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:30
    Re: #5
    Kamio Yone, a former pro women's tennis player who was actually quite strong
    Fujii Takahiko, former star male announcer at NTV
    Horibe Keisuke, who used to be in the comedy duo K2 with Katsumata

    They're actually pretty famous people, you know
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:24
    Re: #1
    Chiaki's turned into such a cute grandma
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:08
    Re: #6
    Couldn't stand her back when she was all edgy, but I can forgive her now
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:29
    He didn't have the talent to make it as a comedian
    so now he's a writer, right?
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:42
    Re: #15
    He acts too — he's even in this year's NHK Taiga drama
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:29
    Horibe's really gone up in the world
    he's a go-to guy for movies now
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:30
    Re: #17
    He's great at playing nervous types or stiff, buttoned-up roles
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:35
    A lot of people were watching Music Station on the other channel instead of Urinari
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:44
    Re: #31
    That was during music TV's all-time biggest bubble era, after all — Mステ (Music Station) was huge, so Urinari went all-out with lavish stuff to compete
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:37
    Re: #1
    Who's the guy on the far left in the second photo?
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Re: #34
    Horibe's post has a tag reading "#Shinomiya Koji" — googled it and apparently he was an NTV employee, the director of Urinari back then
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:38
    Fujii Takahiko isn't even in it
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:41
    Re: #35
    He's right there, far right in the back row
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:46
    Re: #43
    He looks like the comedian Tsuchida
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:41
    Did everyone actually take part in the ballroom dancing segment?
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:46
    Re: #40
    That was a different group, the one affiliated with Nanbara
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:42
    Fun fact: the original hosts of "Celebrity Rank Check" were Hamada Masatoshi, Naito Takeshi, and Horibe Keisuke
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:44
    Re: #46
    That's because it started as a segment within "Ninkimono de Iko"
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Re: #46
    He wore that weird eye mask, remember
    64AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:51
    It's been a genuinely long time since I've seen Kamio Yone
    98AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:24
    Re: #64
    Yeah, I bet.
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:58
    I remember Kamio Yone having a rough time with seasickness during the actual broadcast
    101AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:28
    Re: #70
    Wait, they rode a boat instead of swimming? lol
    73AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:01
    A rare off-duty smile from Horibe, who's now basically a professional villain actor
    76AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:04
    Re: #73
    I was shocked to see him show up as a villain in a Sentai series
    77AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:05
    Who'd have guessed Horibe would become such a successful actor
    he probably never imagined it himself back when he was out there swimming
    94AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:18
    Re: #77
    Apparently he used to be in a duo called K2 with Katsumata Shuwa back in the day, but I never once saw them perform
    79AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:07
    All the White Biscuits members are here
    funny enough, none of the Black ones showed up
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:17
    Re: #79
    Isn't it Pocket Biscuits, not White Biscuits?
    89AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:14
    Smashing stuff with that CD press machine
    that'd get you nothing but complaints today
    92AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:17
    Re: #89
    Even though it was staged
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:35
    No way they could afford something like this nowadays — way too expensive
    116AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:45
    Re: #106
    Nah, even back then this wasn't normal.
    The man behind it, Tsuchiya Toshio, just didn't manage budgets or care what the sponsors thought — he did whatever he wanted.
    Makes sense, since he's the same guy who made Denpa Shonen.

    Background and Talking Points

    “Urinari” was a variety show that aired on Nippon TV in the late 1990s, known for its gutsy, “no fakery” approach built around hands-on physical stunts. “Dover Strait Swim Team” was its signature segment, notable for mixing professional comedians like Uchimura Teruyoshi, Udo Suzuki, and Hamaguchi Yu with unconventional recruits such as former pro women’s tennis player Kamio Yone and network announcer Fujii Takahiko. Around the same time, “Pocket Biscuits,” a group born out of the show’s segments, was also scoring hits in the music world — a sign of just how much cultural clout variety TV carried alongside music programs back then. The thread revealed a clear generational split: longtime fans eagerly identified people in the photo one by one, while quite a few younger posters admitted “I don’t recognize most of these people.” The way Horibe Keisuke later built a respected acting career playing villains and stern, no-nonsense characters stands as a good example of just how far a career can stretch for someone who got their start on a sketch-comedy show. Note: an unverified post hinting at friction between cast members appeared in the thread, but since it couldn’t be substantiated, it isn’t covered in this article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Uchimura Teruyoshi, Urinari’s “Dover Strait Swim Team” Reunites After 28 Years! Group Photo Sparks Joyful Reactions.”

  • Kazushige Nagashima & Kamaitachi’s Yamauchi Open a Ramen Shop Together — 5ch: “Annoyingly, It’s Actually Good”

    Kazushige Nagashima and Kamaitachi’s Kenji Yamauchi jointly invested in “Chuka Soba Fujii Tokyo Shimbashi,” which opened on October 1st. The project grew out of the pair’s appearance together on Nippon TV’s “Ichimo x Kamaitachi Genba,” and Shimbashi is known as a fiercely competitive restaurant district. On 5ch, the thread’s reaction was a mix of curiosity and suspicion: some questioned how much of this celebrity-backed opening was really funded “out of their own pockets” versus serving as franchise promotion, while others who’d actually eaten there praised the food.

    Kazushige Nagashima & Kamaitachi’s Yamauchi Seriously Open a Ramen Shop! Storming Tokyo’s Cutthroat Restaurant District of Shimbashi

    TV personality Kazushige Nagashima (60) and comedy duo Kamaitachi’s Kenji Yamauchi (45) jointly invested to open the ramen shop “Chuka Soba Fujii Tokyo Shimbashi” on the 1st.

    The catalyst was Nippon TV’s “Ichimo x Kamaitachi Genba” (Sundays, 10:25am), on which Nagashima and Kamaitachi appear together.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:53
    Shop name: "The Idiot Son"
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:16
    Re: #2
    Kazushige: "We only have daughters in our family, though?"
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:54
    How much did Kazushige get from the inheritance?
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:59
    Re: #5
    He renounced his inheritance, didn't he?
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:00
    Re: #5
    He gave up his inheritance even before his dad died.
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:56
    People mistake it for the celebrity himself being there, so it probably won't last
    That's basically always how it goes
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:57
    Kazushige's palate is probably trustworthy
    but can Yamauchi actually turn a profit?
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 07:58
    They should ask Motoki for advice.
    66AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:35
    Re: #10
    Ask Mr. Jōhen about it lol
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:01
    Chuka soba (shoyu-style ramen) has lower ingredient costs than tonkotsu, so this'll do fine.
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:01
    Not exactly a lineup that makes you think "I want to go because it's THEIR shop!"…
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:01
    Thought it must be some big shot's shop since he's not just some figurehead being carried around ("mikoshi" = festival shrine litter, used here to mean a puppet/figurehead) — turned out to be a totally different "Fujii."
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:18
    Smart of Yamauchi to pick Shimbashi
    >The catalyst was Nippon TV's "Ichimo x Kamaitachi Genba," which Kazushige and Kamaitachi co-star in
    If it's Shimbashi, NTV employees will definitely show up
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:25
    Re: #43
    Coming from NTV it'd probably be a taxi ride over there
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:25
    The bickering is just for the show's sake
    I knew that already, but honestly they're way too close
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:30
    Re: #52
    It's just a script where Kazushige acts high and mighty and Kamaitachi teases him for it
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:29
    This is basically a billboard to recruit franchisees, how lame — they're not "investing," they're getting paid for this
    72AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:46
    Re: #55
    Ah, that explains it
    With these two, between the money and the name recognition, they could probably open a solid ramen shop any time they wanted — maybe not a daily-huge-line sensation, but decent enough
    without needing to go the franchise route on purpose
    68AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:39
    It's probably a tax write-off for Kazushige…
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:43
    It doubles as a tax dodge too
    74AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:51
    Re: #70
    For Kazushige it's just a tax move
    no way this lasts
    78AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:56
    Re: #68
    Re: #70
    People say that a lot, but
    saving on taxes doesn't actually make your money grow, you know
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:45
    Totally unrelated, but there's a popular "iekei" ramen shop in Yotsuya
    I tried Taisei for the first time yesterday and just didn't get the appeal at all — I don't understand ramen fans' taste buds
    77AnonymousOct 3, 2026 08:56
    Re: #71
    Aren't all iekei shops pretty much the same?
    I went to the original, Yoshimuraya in Shin-Sugita,
    and found it small-portioned and greasy and didn't get the appeal either — but these days I actually like it enough to make it myself sometimes, lol

    You probably just don't like thick, oily pork-bone-soy-sauce broth
    I figure that soup's meant for eating with rice, which is why the default noodle portion is small

    And that Yotsuya shop
    isn't it popular because it's a stand-and-eat place with great value?
    1,100 yen for ramen and rice in central Tokyo is on the cheap side
    80AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:00
    Re: #71
    With iekei, the noodles are basically an afterthought
    they're just there to go with the rice
    86AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:06
    Kazushige showed off his Hawaii mansion recently — why does he have that much money?
    101AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:20
    Re: #86
    His dad probably earned enough in his lifetime to keep even his great-grandkids living easy
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:12
    Motoki's ramen shop and Hamaya's izakaya both went under too
    98AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:15
    Re: #93
    If you build it yourself from scratch
    (even bringing in a production company or whatever)
    it's probably more likely to fail
    That's pretty different from just buying into an existing franchise, isn't it?
    102AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:21
    So, is this place actually any good?
    104AnonymousOct 3, 2026 09:22
    Re: #102
    Unfortunately, yes — it's good.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    “Chuka Soba Fujii” is a ramen brand that originated in Wakayama and already runs multiple locations — Nagashima and the others didn’t build this shop from scratch. That’s part of why the thread raised doubts about whether this was really an “investment” versus a franchise promotional stunt, but it’s also why the food tends to get rated well, since it benefits from an already-established shop’s know-how. Restaurants started by celebrities have a well-documented track record of closing down, and skepticism about whether this one will “last” was a recurring theme in the thread. The catalyst, Nippon TV’s “Ichimo x Kamaitachi Genba,” airs Sunday mornings, and Shimbashi appears to have been chosen partly because it’s a location where the network’s own employees might drop by. A side discussion also sprang up about Nagashima’s inheritance, though it’s worth noting that renouncing an inheritance before the person involved has actually died isn’t legally possible.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Sokuho+) thread “[Entertainment] Kazushige Nagashima & Kamaitachi’s Yamauchi Seriously Open a Ramen Shop! Joint Investment Storms Tokyo’s Cutthroat Restaurant District of Shimbashi.”