Category: Business

  • GACKT Mistakes NISA Tax Program for an Investment Product — 5ch: “Total Idiot lol”

    Entertainer GACKT is facing backlash after a clip resurfaced showing him mischaracterizing Japan’s tax-free NISA investment program as an “investment product” itself. The clip spread on X on the night of September 26 and had racked up more than 7.2 million views by the morning of the 28th. In the video, GACKT says things like “I don’t even want to invest in NISA” and “explain to me how NISA generates profit,” while dismissing people who use it as having “stopped thinking.” Investor and influencer Shintaro Tabata poured fuel on the fire by reacting with “total idiot lol.” On 5ch, while many mocked GACKT by bringing up his own past cryptocurrency venture, some commenters also argued his warning “isn’t entirely off-base as a caution to novice investors,” keeping the discussion from being a simple gaffe story.

    September 28, 2026

    A clip of “GACKT” (870,000 subscribers) talking about NISA is spreading on X. His comments, which treat NISA as an investment product rather than a tax program, drew a string of callouts — including from investor and influencer “Shintaro Tabata” (400,000 subscribers), who reacted with “GACKT-sama! Total idiot lol.”

    The clip was posted on X on the night of September 26 and had surpassed 7.2 million views by the morning of the 28th. In the video, GACKT says “I don’t even want to invest in NISA” and “explain to me how NISA generates profit,” criticizing people who use NISA as having “stopped thinking.”

    Source: yutura.net / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:58
    Forget NISA, it's all about crypto coins
    You can win streak after streak, right?
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:58
    He's got a sickness where he can't get two words out without saying 'idiot' or 'moron'
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:58
    Well, if he's just steering people toward GACKT Coin, he's not wrong
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:59
    Oniya: "This is a warning from GACKT" (referring to fellow streamer Oniya)
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:59
    Re: #2
    A lot of band musicians got burned by that one too
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 13:59
    GACKT Coin isn't for idiots, okay?♡
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:00
    Is POPOPO an investment product?
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:00
    This guy's talking without understanding the system at all
    https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/masorira-kabu/imgs/5/7/57e28f59.jpg
    https://livedoor.blogimg.jp/masorira-kabu/imgs/0/0/007196bd.jpg
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:01
    Calling a bunch of random strangers idiots only to turn out to be the idiot yourself — that's the lamest thing in the world
    20AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:01
    So he doesn't even understand it, huh

    Well, I guess recommending it to old folks could be seen as dumb, though
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:01
    Yoshiki actually took over the industry and had real hit songs to show for it
    Has this guy done anything comparable? Why's he even being put in the same class as Yoshiki?
    That's what's been bugging me for a while (Yoshiki, the X Japan musician)
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:04
    Re: #21
    No clue why you think they're on the same level
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:01
    Surely this is just a clip taken out of context, right?
    If he's serious, that's way too stupid — I can't believe an actual adult would think that
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:02
    Re: #1
    Well, blindly jumping on whatever the government recommends is definitely idiotic behavior too (´・ω・`)
    You guys have totally forgotten about the COVID vaccine already
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    Re: #27
    Don't lump injecting a foreign substance into your body in with a tax-break policy
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:07
    Re: #27
    The government: "We made the NISA program, so go earn your own retirement money
    Oh, and please do it via regular installment investing if you can"
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    Isn't this way healthier than some random 'coin'?
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    GACKT's words carry weight
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    >NISA's flagship stock

    now that's a power phrase
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    NISA is a tax program
    Normally, tax gets taken out of the profit you make buying and selling
    If you make 100,000 yen in trading profit, about 20,000 yen gets taken as tax — but if you use the NISA program, that tax doesn't apply and the full 100,000 yen is yours to keep
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:07
    Re: #32
    It's also a cursed system in the other direction — even if you take a 100,000 yen loss, you can't offset it against other gains, so you can end up paying more tax overall
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:03
    There's a better product out there — it's called GACKT Coin
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:04
    (NISA + GACKT) / 2 = NEET (a pun blending the Japanese pronunciations of "NISA" and "GACKT" into "NEET")
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:04
    Come on… this is GACKT we're talking about
    Of course he'd come off as a total idiot lol
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:05
    He got cocky after getting away clean with Spindle (his crypto project, aka "GACKT Coin")
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:05
    If you really had to name NISA's 'flagship stock,' I guess it'd be something like an all-country index fund — basically an overseas index fund at its core
    And as for how the profit actually gets generated, it's simple: the 20% that would normally get taxed away isn't taxed at all within your NISA allowance, no matter how much you make — so that part is extremely straightforward and extremely profitable
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:06
    The way he acts like he knows it all while confidently spouting nonsense is just like Horiemon
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:06
    "NISA isn't about growing your money — these days it's all about crypto coins"
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:09
    What's the point of digging up some ancient misunderstanding like this
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:11
    Re: #57
    That comment was from last year
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:09
    Re: #44
    Huh?
    That's true for a regular taxable brokerage account, but
    it's basically just saying 'try not to take a loss in the first place'
    that's exactly why mutual funds are the main option here
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:15
    Re: #58
    Don't fall for the myth that mutual funds never lose money
    It's not like the company managing them can never go bankrupt
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:15
    It's true I have real doubts about how far to trust something just because the government is the one recommending it.

    This is the same government that keeps stubbornly refusing to cut the consumption tax, insisting it still needs to collect even more tax — and that's the government pushing this on us,
    so I just can't shake the feeling that something about it is fishy
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:17
    Re: #81
    You get to pick what you buy yourself, so it's entirely up to you
    Think of it like a tax-free checkout lane
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:17
    People who casually jump into NISA on a whim will eventually
    get stopped out and hit with a margin call, and it'll wreck their life
    Investing isn't something amateurs should wade into lightly
    In that sense, what GACKT is saying isn't entirely wrong
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:18
    Re: #92
    A margin call… on NISA?
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 14:20
    Re: #92
    Make it clear whether you're trolling or being dead serious

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    NISA isn’t an “investment product” — it’s a tax program that waives the roughly 20% tax normally charged on gains and dividends from stocks and mutual funds. The uproar started when experts and influencers called out GACKT for conflating this “program” with a “product,” and the clip took off after racking up over 70 million views. GACKT is also known for a past controversy involving the cryptocurrency “Spindle” (aka “GACKT Coin”) that he was personally involved with, and much of the mockery in the thread draws on that history. That said, the reactions weren’t all mockery — some commenters voiced sympathy for GACKT’s underlying point that “novice investors shouldn’t be pushed into this too casually,” while others noted that NISA itself has real structural downsides, like not letting you offset losses against other gains, resulting in a genuinely split debate. One nuance that a headline alone doesn’t capture: the real problem was GACKT speaking without correctly understanding how NISA works — not that his underlying caution about investment risk was itself off base.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “‘Is everyone doing NISA an idiot?’ — GACKT denies NISA while mistaking it for an investment product, old clip resurfaces on X sparking a wave of callouts.”

  • Individual Bonds Over NISA? 5ch Debates How the Risk-Averse Should Build Wealth

    The thread kicked off with a challenge to people who say “investing scares me because I might lose money”: why not just buy principal-guaranteed individual government bonds? Posters noted these bonds pay more interest than an ordinary savings account and won’t lose principal unless Japan itself goes broke — though others countered that the rate gap isn’t huge and the paperwork hassle barely pays off. As the talk rolled on, it expanded to cover regular investing in All-Country (“Orukan”) and S&P 500 index funds, bank time-deposit promotions, and how big an emergency fund should be, with the thread converging on the idea that bonds, savings, and stocks should be mixed according to one’s risk tolerance.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    Unless Japan actually defaults, you get your money back — super low risk. And if Japan does default, the yen becomes worthless paper anyway, so it's basically a souped-up savings account.
    Plus you get something like 5-6x the interest of most ordinary savings accounts.
    The only real downside is you can't touch it for a year. It's genuinely a great deal, why isn't everyone buying these?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    I guess it's a bit of a hassle for not much payoff. That's the downside.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Re: #8
    If you put in a large sum, the difference really adds up though.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:14
    Pretty much every self-employed person already maxes out the Small Enterprise Mutual Aid (a tax-advantaged retirement fund for the self-employed) — that's basically their investment right there.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    Re: #11
    But there are way more non-self-employed people out there.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:16
    Re: #9
    I guess the logic is: people who can handle the hassle go for stocks that pay off bigger, and people who find it a hassle won't bother with bonds either if the gains are that small.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:18
    Re: #16
    Hmm. Setting the second group aside, I'd still want to nudge the stock crowd from the first group into buying at least a little.
    I'm in All-Country myself, and even though it'll probably outperform, I hold a solid chunk of bonds too just to keep my head straight during a crash.
    Panic-selling would defeat the whole point.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:20
    Are banks getting nervous with everyone rushing into investing?
    My mom, who just hit retirement age, brought home a flyer saying NISA's too confusing for her now so she wants a time deposit instead — about 1.9% on 3 million yen over 3 years, so a guaranteed +300,000 yen with zero risk of loss isn't bad at all.
    Honestly she might out-earn me, and I only started NISA this year.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    Re: #23
    Bank time deposits have gotten better lately too, though sometimes that rate includes a promotional bonus.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Re: #23
    It's decent, but for something like a 3-year term, individual bonds actually beat a time deposit. Time deposits are better suited to 6-month or 1-year terms.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Just goes to show most people out there aren't that into money.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #25
    Really? Feels like talk about investing and saving has been on the rise though.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #24
    Yeah, it included the promo bonus — seems the condition was opening a new account.
    I did look into the bank first before giving the go-ahead, though.
    A friend told me it'd pay off more if I borrowed that 3 million and built her a portfolio, but that scared me, so I had her go with the time deposit instead.
    You never know how much longer your parents will be around, anyway.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Re: #28
    I think that's the right call. Even with a promo bonus tacked on, if the conditions line up it's still a good deal.
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    This is my debut round.
    Throwing in a few hundred thousand yen I made off semiconductor stocks.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #29
    Nice. Shore up your defenses too and build that grip strength (i.e., the nerve to hold through a downturn) 💪
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I'm a second-generation self-employed guy, but my freelancer friends are all "Mutual aid? What's that? Tax savings sound like too much hassle" types.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #34
    Uh… are they rich, or just completely checked out?
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I think it's fine to take risks with NISA while you're still working — if you lose money, you can just keep working to earn it back.
    Shifting into defensive assets is a conversation for after you retire.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #35
    My risk tolerance is low, so I buy bonds too, for the grip strength. Of course I buy All-Country as well.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Even at 5x an ordinary savings rate, that's just 5x of 0.1% — only 0.5%. All-Country gets you over 3%.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #36
    Which bank pays 0.1%? My local regional bank's ordinary savings rate is 0.4%.
    And right now you get around 1.9% on the 3-year bond and about 2.2% on the 5-year, if I remember right.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Yeah, at this point buying these bonds is on the same level as buying Chinese stocks.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #41
    Chinese stocks don't come with a principal guarantee though…
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Keeping your money in a bank carries its own risk too, and I don't mean deposit-insurance payout limits or anything like that.
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    Re: #72
    What kind of risk are we talking about? Seriously, tell me.
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #72
    Because inflation is expected to keep climbing over the long run.
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    The thread title's one thing, but the All-Country/S&P true believers scare me too.

    Life is long and there'll be times you need cash, yet they assume you can just keep contributing for 10+ years straight.
    And not many people have the mental fortitude to keep buying in while watching their losses pile up during a downturn.
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #74
    This is seriously true. If you don't have that mental margin, better to raise your bond allocation and keep more in savings.
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #74
    Normally you wouldn't put your emergency fund, or tuition savings if you've got kids, into investments anyway.
    You buy All-Country on the assumption that money's locked away for the long haul.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    The yen itself is actually the thing crashing hardest, when you think about it.
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:45
    Re: #75
    Ordinary savings accounts are the real danger. Go with All-Country or bonds — or at minimum a time deposit with a decent rate.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #75
    There's also the risk the US forces a stronger yen on us, so it's hard to say anything for certain.
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #75
    Buy low, sell high is the basic rule — so if not now while the yen is cheap, when?
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Honestly, point-farming ("poikatsu" — stacking cashback/reward points) is safer. 3% a month with zero risk.
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #82
    Well, if we're going there, a side hustle pays even better rates. This is specifically about ordinary asset management though.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:48
    Re: #82
    You should factor this in too — a floating-rate individual bond gets you 2%, and a Mizuho Rakuten Card gets you another 2%, so you can lock in 4% just from everyday spending.
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    You're better off waiting a bit longer on bonds since the rate should climb further.
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #92
    True, but there's also a chance rates drop — low, but not zero — so I'll just buy in now while I can.
    97AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #92
    That's exactly why it's the 10-year floating-rate bond.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Individual government bonds (such as the 10-year floating-rate type) are issued by the state, so they never lose principal value. Current market rates run around 1.9% for the 3-year bond and 2.2% for the 5-year, both well above the 0.1-0.4% typical of ordinary bank savings accounts. That said, they generally can’t be cashed in early for a full year, and the payoff is small unless you’re investing a substantial sum. NISA and All-Country (an all-country equity index fund), by contrast, carry no principal guarantee but open the door to long-term capital gains and tax-free allowances — which demands the mental fortitude to keep contributing even while prices are falling. The thread split over whether to build a portfolio around “principal-guaranteed but slow-growing bonds” or “stock investing that can grow but can also fall,” with many participants converging on the idea that combining both, weighted by age and the size of one’s emergency fund, is the sensible approach. The conversation also touched on how to think about dollar-denominated assets amid the weakening yen — a reminder that this isn’t a topic with one simple right answer.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch “Anything Goes Live G” board thread “Mystery faction says “Investing is dangerous! NISA might lose you money so I won’t do it!” — So why not just buy government bonds?“

  • Individual JGBs vs. NISA? Cautious Savers Debate Asset-Building on 5ch

    The thread kicked off with a simple question aimed at people who say “investing scares me because I might lose money”: why not just buy individual government bonds, which come with a principal guarantee? Posters pointed out that these bonds pay higher interest than an ordinary savings account and won’t lose principal unless Japan’s finances collapse entirely — though others pushed back, arguing the interest gap isn’t that big and the paperwork hassle isn’t worth the modest payoff. As the discussion rolled on, it branched into monthly investing in All-Country index funds (オルカン) and the S&P 500, bank time-deposit campaigns, and how much to keep as an emergency fund, with the conversation trending toward a consensus: mix bonds, savings, and stocks according to your own risk tolerance.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:07
    Unless Japan's finances completely collapse, you get your money back — super low risk. And if Japan DID go bankrupt, the yen would be worthless paper anyway, so bonds are basically savings accounts on steroids.
    Plus the interest is like 5-6x what most ordinary savings accounts pay.
    Other than being locked in for a year, it's genuinely great — why isn't everyone buying these?
    8AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Maybe it's that it's a bit of a hassle for not much payoff. That's the downside, I guess.
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:13
    Re: #8
    If you put in a decent amount, the difference really adds up.
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:14
    Pretty much every self-employed person maxes out their Small Enterprise Mutual Aid plan (小規模企業共済, a tax-advantaged retirement fund for sole proprietors) anyway — that's basically their investment right there.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:15
    Re: #11
    But most people in the world aren't self-employed.
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:16
    Re: #9
    I guess the logic is: people willing to deal with the hassle go for stocks since they pay off more, and people who hate hassle won't bother with bonds either if the payoff's only slight.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:18
    Re: #16
    Hmm.
    Forget the hassle-haters, but even for the stock-picking crowd, I'd still recommend buying at least a little.
    I'm in All-Country index funds (オルカン) myself, and sure, that'll outperform, but I hold a solid chunk of bonds too just to keep my mental steady during a crash.
    Panic-selling wipes out everything you gained.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:20
    Aren't banks getting nervous with everyone piling into investing?
    My retired mom brought home a flyer saying NISA's too confusing for her at this point so she wants a time deposit instead — 3 million yen for 3 years at about 1.9%. No risk of losing principal and a guaranteed +300k, that's actually pretty solid.
    She might end up out-earning me, and I only just started NISA this year.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    Re: #23
    Bank time deposits have gotten better lately too, though sometimes that rate includes a promotional campaign bonus.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Re: #23
    It's decent, but for something like a 3-year horizon, individual bonds actually beat a time deposit.
    Time deposits are better suited for 6-month or 1-year terms.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    The truth is most people just aren't that interested in money.
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #25
    Really?
    Feels like talk about investing and saving has been picking up lately.
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:23
    Re: #24
    Yeah, it included the campaign bonus.
    Looks like the condition was opening a new account.
    I did research the bank first before giving my okay.
    A friend told me I should just borrow that 3 million and build a portfolio to grow it myself, but that felt too risky, so I had her put it in a time deposit instead.
    You never know how much longer a parent's going to be around, after all.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Re: #28
    I think that's the right call.
    Even with a campaign bonus, if the conditions line up for you, it's a good deal.
    29AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:24
    This'll be my first time getting in.
    Throwing in a few hundred thousand yen I made off semiconductor stocks.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #29
    Nice.
    Shore up your defense too and build up that grip strength 💪 ("握力," forum slang for the willpower to hold a position through a downturn instead of panic-selling)
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I'm a second-generation business owner, but among my freelancer friends it's all "Mutual aid fund? What's that? Tax savings sound like a pain," kind of guys.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #34
    Uh…
    Are they rich or just completely indifferent?
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    I think it's fine to take on risk with NISA while you're still working — if you lose money, you can just keep working to cover it.
    Shifting to defensive assets is a conversation for after you retire.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #35
    My risk tolerance is low, so I buy bonds too, for the grip strength (holding power).
    Of course I'm buying All-Country funds as well.
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:25
    Even at 5x an ordinary savings rate, that's just 5x 0.1% —
    only 0.5%. An All-Country index fund gets you 3%+.
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    Re: #36
    Which bank has a 0.1% rate?
    My local regional bank pays 0.4% on ordinary savings.
    And right now you can get about 1.9% on a 3-year bond and 2.2% on a 5-year one.
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:27
    At this point buying these "crap bonds" (ウン国債, a pun on うんこ/"poop" + 国債/"bonds") is on the same level as buying Chinese stocks.
    44AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:28
    Re: #41
    Chinese stocks don't come with a principal guarantee though…
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Keeping money in a bank has its own risk, you know —
    and I don't mean the deposit-insurance payout cap (ペイオフ) kind of risk.
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    Re: #72
    What kind of risk is that?
    Seriously, fill me in.
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #72
    Because inflation is expected to keep rising over the long run.
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:43
    The thread title (スレタイ) is already something, but
    the All-Country/S&P zealots scare me too.

    Life is long and there will be times you need cash,
    yet they're assuming you can keep contributing for 10+ years straight.
    Not many people have the mental fortitude to keep buying in while watching their losses grow during a downturn.
    76AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #74
    This is seriously true.
    If you don't have the mental bandwidth for it, I think you should raise your bond allocation and keep more in savings.
    84AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #74
    Normally you wouldn't put your emergency fund, or your kids' tuition savings if you have kids, into investments anyway.
    You buy All-Country funds assuming your money's locked up long-term.
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    The yen itself is the thing that's crashed the hardest, if you think about it.
    79AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:45
    Re: #75
    Ordinary savings accounts are the real danger.
    Go with All-Country funds or bonds — or at minimum a time deposit with a decent rate.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #75
    There's also the risk of the U.S. forcing a stronger yen on us, so it's not so simple anymore.
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #75
    Buy low, sell high is the basic rule — so if not now, while the yen's cheap, when?
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Honestly, point-hunting (ポイ活, stacking up credit-card/loyalty reward points) is safer.
    3% a month with zero risk.
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Re: #82
    If we're going there, a side hustle pays even better with a higher return rate.
    But we're talking about ordinary asset management here.
    87AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:48
    Re: #82
    You should factor this in too —
    2% from a variable-rate individual bond,
    plus 2% from a Mizuho Rakuten card, and just living normally nets you 4%.
    92AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    You should wait a bit longer on bonds — the rate's going to climb.
    94AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #92
    Maybe, but there's also a non-zero chance it drops, so I'll just buy in now while I can.
    97AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:53
    Re: #92
    That's exactly why you go with the 10-year variable-rate type.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Individual government bonds (such as the 10-year variable-rate type) are issued by the state, so the principal is protected, and recent market rates run around 1.9% for the 3-year bond and 2.2% for the 5-year — well above what most banks pay on ordinary savings (roughly 0.1-0.4%). That said, they generally can’t be cashed in for the first year, and the payoff is small unless you’re investing a substantial sum. NISA and All-Country index funds (オルカン, tracking a broad global stock index), on the other hand, offer no principal guarantee but open the door to long-term capital gains and a tax-free allowance — which takes the mental discipline to keep contributing even while your position is underwater. The thread’s central disagreement was which of these to build around: bonds that are guaranteed but grow slowly, or stocks that can grow more but can also fall. Most participants were converging on the idea that combining both, weighted by age and whether you already have an emergency fund, is the sensible approach. The conversation also touched on how to value dollar-denominated assets amid the weak yen — a reminder that this isn’t a topic with one simple right answer.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G board) thread “Mystery faction: ‘Investing is dangerous! I won’t do NISA because I might lose money!’ — So why not just buy government bonds?.”

  • Court Orders WECARS to Pay Damages Over Car That Failed Inspection Standards — 5ch: ‘Just Changed the Sign, Same Old Inside’

    WECARS, a used-car dealership in Saijo, Ehime Prefecture that took over the business of the former Bigmotor, has been found to have sold a customer a used car that didn’t meet vehicle inspection (shaken) standards. On July 30, the Saijo Branch of the Matsuyama District Court ruled that “the seller has an obligation to deliver a vehicle that passes inspection,” finding WECARS in breach of contract and ordering it to pay 270,000 yen. The contract was reportedly signed just two months after the business changeover. On 5ch, many pointed out that even though the parent company changed to one affiliated with Itochu Corporation, the staff and culture on the ground haven’t changed, with opinions divided over the significance of the ruling and whether the damages amount was appropriate.

    TV Ehime

    Friday, September 25, 2026, 6:55 PM

    The man bought the used car two months after “WECARS” took over the former Bigmotor’s business,

    Source: fnn.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:48
    The people working inside are the same, so of course nothing's gonna change
    Itochu is seriously underestimating the guys entrenched in the used-car industry
    4AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:10
    Re: #2
    Trading companies are pretty much the same anyway
    3AnonymousSep 26, 2026 06:55
    >On July 30, the Matsuyama District Court's Saijo Branch ruled that 'the seller has an obligation to deliver a car that meets inspection standards,' finding a breach of contract.

    Landmark ruling — used car dealers are done for lol
    13AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:38
    Re: #3
    I want WECARS to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court and get this locked in as precedent
    5AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:24
    A country where the executives who ran the show never get arrested
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:10
    The insurance industry finally got its karma with Bigmotor
    9AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:21
    Re: #6
    No worries, they'll just make up the losses by hiking premiums
    7AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:13
    Why would anyone still buy a car from Bigmotor?
    8AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:17
    Re: #7
    People probably figure things changed since the management did
    But the sales and maintenance staff weren't all replaced, so the ones who got their hands dirty aren't changing anytime soon
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:13
    Not a single word about this on their website or social media lol
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:31
    The name changed but the staff inside didn't, so they'll just keep repeating the same mistakes
    14AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:39
    Honestly, I don't think Bigmotor's really at fault this time

    It's pretty normal for a super-expensive import like a Maserati to have a muffler that doesn't meet domestic standards
    If anything, the salesperson was just ignorant
    20AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:41
    Re: #14
    A friend of mine drives a Levante with the unmodified Ferrari-built V6 twin-turbo, and it's already pretty loud lol
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:19
    Re: #14
    If the salesperson's at fault,
    then the company's at fault
    34AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:51
    Re: #14
    That just means it's a completely untrustworthy company
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:41
    Wasn't it just a name change from Bigmotor?
    Definitely not a place you should be buying from
    16AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:15
    Re: #14
    ( ´,_ゝ`)プッ (a smug snicker face — basically 'pfft, sure')
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:31
    They just changed the sign and nothing inside actually changed, so of course fraud like this keeps happening
    18AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:33
    Even for a Maserati, demanding 2.9 million yen in damages is a bit of a rip-off lol
    19AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:36
    They probably went through all sorts of negotiations before it went to court, got branded as thugs, and the customer's anger maxed out. A company nobody would miss if it folded lol
    21AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:42
    I wonder if the 270,000 yen payment order is just the cost of swapping in a genuine muffler
    22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:54
    So 270,000 yen is all it takes to pass inspection, huh.
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:11
    Itochu talking about 'the way of the merchant' is hilarious. Quite the bargain-bin code of honor — a 500-yen QUO gift card.
    There's no way you get a fresh start by making the customer just swallow the loss.
    26AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:11
    Feels like flood-damaged used cars are on the rise
    28AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:24
    Nothing's changed at the root of it
    Just go under already
    29AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:32
    Sounds like the previous owner sold the car with a modified high-power muffler still attached while the inspection was still valid, and it got passed straight on to the customer as-is.
    Since you need a genuine muffler to pass inspection, that's where the dispute came from
    30AnonymousSep 26, 2026 12:36
    Organizational culture doesn't change that easily
    31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 13:08
    The strength of DNA that's been carved in deep
    33AnonymousSep 26, 2026 15:22
    Won't work unless they broaden the scope of fines and double the amounts
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 17:31
    Do you actually get arrested for selling cars 'as-is' or with expired inspections?
    Rough business, being a used car dealer
    38AnonymousSep 26, 2026 19:46
    Re: #36
    It's a civil case
    Selling a car that fails inspection without disclosing it is obviously a problem
    42AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:40
    Re: #36
    If it's got plates, you're paying inspection fees based on the remaining validity period
    so if it was already non-compliant at that point, that's fraud
    37AnonymousSep 26, 2026 19:43
    The weed-choked sidewalk-and-bike-path along the national road
    was immaculately tidy with not a single blade of grass
    right in front of the Bigmotor store — I really can't thank them enough (sarcasm — a jab at the scandal where Bigmotor was found to have killed roadside trees and weeds near its stores)
    Meanwhile the local government is utterly useless
    39AnonymousSep 26, 2026 20:27
    Actually, the muffler was already replaced for free at the customer's request
    The dispute blew up because they then demanded 2.9 million yen in damages on top of a car that sold for 2.9 million yen
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:00
    So it really was just a sign change, huh (mock old-timey speech for comic effect)
    41AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:06
    Prices are high when they're selling
    and high when they're buying too lol
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:41
    Only the sign changed
    the inside didn't
    Yeah, this isn't good…

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    WECARS is said to have been formed when Itochu Corporation and others took over the business of the former Bigmotor, whose management collapsed amid the insurance fraud scandal. This ruling recognized a basic breach of contract — that a seller is obligated to deliver a vehicle that meets inspection standards — and the fact that it happened just two months after the business changeover has drawn particular attention. On 5ch, some speculated that the 270,000 yen payment order corresponds to the cost of fitting a genuine replacement muffler, suggesting it may be a different kind of figure from the 2.9 million yen damages claim that also drew attention elsewhere. The central debate centered on the argument that “fraud will keep repeating unless the staff and culture on the ground change, no matter how much the parent company or the sign out front changes,” with opinions split between those welcoming the ruling and those questioning Itochu’s response and accountability.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Business News+) thread “Sale of a “car that fails inspection standards” in Saijo — Payment order against WECARS, two months after taking over former Bigmotor’s business [Ehime].”

  • Over 3,000 Food Items to Get Pricier Starting in October — Beer Tax Cut, ‘¥1.06 Million Wall’ Abolished

    Starting in October, prices on more than 3,000 food and beverage items will rise, while beer gets a tax cut and heated tobacco products get a tax hike as part of revisions to the liquor tax law. That same month, the social insurance “¥1.06 million wall” will also be abolished — a bundle of household-affecting changes all landing at once. On 5ch, opinions split between blaming the government’s economic policy for the price hikes and pointing to structural factors like wages and interest rates, with some suspecting opportunistic price gouging and others defending the increases as justified by soaring raw material costs.

    Sat, Sep 26, 4:39 PM JST

    Kyodo News

    Prices and systems closely tied to daily life will change starting in October. The wave of price hikes on food and beverages continues, with more than 3,000 items expected to rise in price, while heated tobacco products will be hit by a tax increase. As inflation keeps climbing, the burden on household budgets looks set to grow heavier. Meanwhile, beer will get a tax cut under the revised liquor tax law, and the expansion of social insurance coverage will abolish the “¥1.06 million wall.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:18
    Poor people should just eat rice
    188AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:35
    Re: #3
    Someone's a pessimist
    201AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:40
    Re: #3
    Back in the day there was even a story about eating rice while just looking at a photo of sukiyaki.
    But watching how agricultural policy has moved these past few years,
    I can't help but think we won't even be able to afford rice.
    If it comes to that, expired cat food might be next.
    4AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:19
    Thanks to the LDP, I can't afford chocolate anymore
    151AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:16
    Re: #4
    A tiny chocolate bar for 200 yen? That's a joke.
    6AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:19
    Re: #1
    If wages just went up, rising prices wouldn't be a problem at all.

    The reason real wages aren't rising at companies serving Japan's domestic market is that more and more people now depend on social security (taxes) for their livelihood.

    When you hand money to people like pensioners or welfare recipients who rely on social security and don't grow their income through economic activity, they try to stretch that money by buying the cheapest goods available.

    Trading companies then chase that demand by importing cheaper substitutes from third countries, and the Japanese market fills up with cheaper goods.

    Domestic-facing manufacturers respond to that demand by holding down employee wages instead of passing on the rising cost of imported raw materials.

    For Japan to raise real wages, the only way is to cut pensions and welfare payments for people under 80 and get those who are healthy enough to work, but aren't, actually working.
    12AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:21
    Re: #6
    Completely wrong. Just raise the minimum wage to 1,500 yen and be done with it.
    22AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:24
    Re: #12
    Why stop at 1,500? Make it 10,000 — we're in an inflation, after all.
    207AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:43
    Re: #12
    Do that and a wave of garbage companies would go bankrupt in a short span, flooding the streets with the unemployed. The ruling party is too scared of a drop in approval ratings to pull that trigger, so instead we get these slow, creeping raises.
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:20
    They're not letting this chance slip by — jacking up prices left and right (lol). So many garbage companies shrinking the package size on top of it.
    44AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:34
    Re: #10
    Go ahead and savor the fruits of Abenomics to the fullest.
    20AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:24
    Way too much opportunistic price gouging going on. Not a shred of morals left.
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:25
    Re: #20
    You can't survive on morals alone.
    24AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:25
    Re: #20

    Of course it is — this is the "Takaichi Shock," after all. (market jitters tied to Sanae Takaichi's rise)
    69AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:42
    On the timing and mechanism of liquor tax:

    Domestic alcohol: taxed when it leaves the manufacturing site — a factory or brewery (at the point of shipment).
    Imported alcohol: taxed when it's cleared out of a customs bonded area.

    Who actually pays: the maker (manufacturer) or the importer — retailers and consumers don't pay the government directly.

    It's a tax on businesses.
    Wait a second…
    Isn't that basically the same as the consumption tax, which is really just a sales tax wearing a fake name???
    113AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:00
    If cigarettes had stayed at 300 yen, I'd probably still be smoking.
    115AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:01
    Re: #113
    A good taxpayer is an addict, after all.
    131AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:06
    Re: #113
    Sounds like the same setup as Re: #69.
    Consumers aren't even part of the equation.
    It's just a straight price hike.
    77AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:46
    A country with low food self-sufficiency. A country that can't get proper food without importing it. And when you have to import from countries overseas that are in hyperinflation, there's no way to keep prices down.
    80AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:47
    Re: #77
    If a country's in hyperinflation, it can't even export, can it?
    97AnonymousSep 26, 2026 21:53
    Of course this happens — they raised interest rates. Raising rates just makes payments harder. The economy isn't even overheating, yet wealthy asset holders are thrilled.
    117AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:02
    Re: #97
    That's the kind of nonsensical sophistry Yoichi Takahashi (a prominent economist) would spout — "a weak yen impoverishes our neighbors while Japan's economy thrives." It's Japan that's getting impoverished here.
    126AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:04
    Most companies are actually raising wages properly.

    FY2026 "wage hikes": implemented by 83.2% of companies, with raises of 5% or more — small and mid-sized businesses outpacing big corporations
    https://www.tsr-net.co.jp/data/detail/1203140_1527.html
    150AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:16
    It's not even that expensive.
    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1790428572247.jpeg
    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1790428584199.jpeg
    153AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:19
    If a company cut prices in half at a time like this, it'd grab tons of buzz and sell like crazy. Japanese companies really are bad at business.
    165AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:26
    Re: #153
    The media loves splashing headlines about price hikes and shortages, stirring up chaos and loving every minute of it, but when packaged rice that went up because of soaring rice prices gets cheaper again as rice prices fall, they never report on that at all.
    182AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:33
    Re: #153
    It's not just labor costs — food, energy, benefits, and social insurance are all shooting up too, for reasons beyond plain inflation, so it's probably not that simple, is it? If companies actually believed the outlook ten years from now looked bright, maybe the big players would do it too.
    155AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:20
    Beer tax cut? It causes drunk driving and even murder, so it should be a tax hike.

    Plus it drives up medical costs from obesity.
    158AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:22
    Re: #155
    Why would that mean a tax cut, lol
    161AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:24
    Re: #155
    Ordinary people commit crimes too, so does that mean an unprecedented tax hike is only natural? Isn't tax not supposed to be a punishment?
    169AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:29
    I don't really get how a mere 10-yen price hike or so translates into "life getting harder." Everyone's wages are going up too, right?


    Now, if a pack of eggs became a standard 500 yen, sure, I'd totally get the "life is hard" complaint.
    173AnonymousSep 26, 2026 22:30
    Re: #169
    Coffee and chocolate are up at a level that's no joke.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The beer tax cut marks the final stage of a three-phase revision to the liquor tax law that began in 2020 (unifying tax rates across beer-type beverages) — it isn’t a one-off favor from the current government. Since liquor tax is levied on manufacturers and importers rather than retailers or consumers, how much of that cut or hike actually gets passed on to shelf prices depends on each company’s own pricing strategy, as commenters in the thread pointed out. The abolition of the “¥1.06 million wall” is likewise based on pension system reforms passed in 2025 — a separate institutional change that simply happens to land in the same October as this wave of price hikes. Opinion in the thread split between those pinning the price hikes mainly on government and LDP policy and those pointing to structural factors like wages and interest rates, with voices suspecting opportunistic gouging coexisting alongside those defending the hikes as justified by soaring raw material and energy costs. The number of items and the tax mechanism follow the original source article as reported; it’s worth noting that the validity of any individual price increase hasn’t been rigorously verified here.

    *This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Price Hike Rush] Food and Beverage Prices Keep Rising in October — Over 3,000 Items, Beer Tax Cut.”

  • Linear Shinkansen’s Shizuoka Section: 9 Years to Groundbreaking, Governor Change Finally Breaks the Deadlock

    On September 25, 2026, it was reported that Shizuoka Governor Yasutomo Suzuki has approved the start of construction on the Shizuoka section of the Linear Chuo Shinkansen. The project, planned by JR Central at a total cost of roughly ¥11 trillion, had been stalled for about nine years over environmental concerns regarding its impact on the Oi River’s water supply. Former governor Heita Kawakatsu had continued to oppose the project until his resignation in 2024, and it was only under his successor that construction finally got the green light. On 5channel, threads buzzed with exasperation over the long delay, worries about ground subsidence from the tunneling work, and skepticism about whether the project is worth the cost.

    9/25/2026

    Shizuoka Governor Yasutomo Suzuki has approved the start of construction on the Shizuoka section of the Linear Chuo Shinkansen.

    The massive ¥11 trillion project has finally emerged from a nearly nine-year deadlock that began with environmental concerns.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 14:42
    I've given up on the Linear line, don't care anymore — just hurry up and finish the Gaikan Expressway already.
    9AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:12
    The Linear line is never going to open.
    Life's tough, quit whining.
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 03:00
    Re: #9
    It's giving the Shikoku Shinkansen (another perpetually-stalled shinkansen plan) a real run for its money.
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:39
    Someday a big earthquake's gonna shift the fault line, mark my words.
    12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:47
    I heard the real danger zone isn't Shizuoka but underground Shinagawa, plus the train depot in Sagamihara — is that not right?
    13AnonymousSep 25, 2026 18:56
    Tried listening to the podcast but it barely gets anywhere. Who's got time for something almost 2 hours long? Sum it up in 3 minutes.
    19AnonymousSep 25, 2026 22:06
    >So when will it actually open?

    Go ask former governor Kawakatsu.
    20AnonymousSep 25, 2026 22:07
    It's not like you can dig underground just anywhere — water comes gushing out and it affects the surface, which is exactly why this got stuck.
    There's no such thing as tunnel construction that doesn't affect groundwater.
    21AnonymousSep 25, 2026 22:49
    Residents living above the tunnel in Kasugai and Shinagawa better brace themselves for their property values dropping.
    A tunnel's being dug right under their houses.
    It could cave in just like it did in Chofu (site of a 2020 road collapse linked to tunnel boring).
    22AnonymousSep 25, 2026 22:54
    Re: #21
    Do you not realize how many subway lines already run under Tokyo?
    24AnonymousSep 26, 2026 00:52
    The concrete plan to secure the Oi River's water flow — Shizuoka's biggest concern — wasn't finalized until 2023.
    That's when Kawakatsu's job was basically done, and he resigned in 2024.

    Shizuoka residents were never going to allow construction without a real plan for the Oi River.
    It wasn't really about Kawakatsu personally — any governor would've faced the same situation.
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:35
    Shaving off a few dozen minutes doesn't seem worth spending that much money.
    If the fare stayed the same it'd be one thing, but if it ends up jacking up prices on the existing trains and shinkansen too, forget it.
    37AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:35
    If you think about it calmly, it's obvious there's zero cost-benefit here. Japan's population is shrinking to begin with.
    Eventually it'll become unsustainable and just get shut down.
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 18:25
    9 years just to break ground, sure, but
    when you add it all up, it's really been 50 years now.
    After 50 years of investment,
    is the Tokyo–Nagoya route actually going to turn a profit?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Linear Chuo Shinkansen is a national project that has been in the works since the 1970s, with JR Central funding and building it at its own expense. The Shizuoka section runs along a route that cuts through the Southern Alps, and Shizuoka Prefecture had long withheld approval for construction over concerns that tunneling would reduce the water flow of the Oi River. A concrete plan for water resource countermeasures was finalized in 2023, after which former governor Heita Kawakatsu, who had opposed the project, resigned in 2024; it was under his successor, Governor Yasutomo Suzuki, that this approval was finally reached. Opinions in the thread were split between skepticism over whether the line will ever actually open and concern for residents living directly above the tunnel route in Shinagawa and Kanagawa Prefecture. The original target opening date was 2027, but with the major delays in the Shizuoka section, a postponement now looks unavoidable — and it’s easy to misread this approval as settling a new opening date, which it does not.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Business News+) thread “(Economy, Casually) When Will the Linear Line Actually Open? Nine Years to Groundbreaking in the Shizuoka Section — How It Got This Tangled.”

  • Docomo hikes existing plan prices — eximo +¥550, irumo and others +¥330, starting December

    NTT Docomo announced it will raise rates starting December 1, 2026 for existing plans that are no longer open to new sign-ups. The eximo and 5G Giga-Ho series will see a ¥550/month increase, while irumo and Giga-Light series will rise by ¥330/month. On 5ch, the first wave of criticism targeted the “lure customers in cheap, then raise prices” business model, followed by comments linking this hike to the mobile fee cuts demanded during the Suga administration, framing this as the backlash to that push. Discussion also touched on whether the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications had actually approved this, along with complaints about Docomo’s network congestion and speed issues.

    NTT Docomo will raise prices starting December 1, 2026, primarily for existing plans that are no longer accepting new subscribers.

    eximo, eximo Poikatsu, 5G Giga-Ho / 5G Giga-Ho Premier / Giga-Ho / Giga-Ho 2 / Giga-Ho Premier, and OCN Mobile ONE (30GB) will see a ¥550 increase.

    irumo (3GB, 6GB, 9GB), 5G Giga-Light / Giga-Light / Giga-Light 2, and the Kake-Hodai Plan / Kake-Hodai Lite Plan (smartphone/tablet) / (feature phone) / (SIM-free), among others, will see a ¥330 increase.

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:19
    This is what happens from handing out iPhones on installment plans (zankure) like candy.
    A ton of those are still going to come back as returns/defaults, aren't they?
    178AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:41
    Re: #3
    Guess they underestimated the "carrier freeloaders" as clueless suckers and it backfired.
    9AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:23
    The government finally forced prices down, and now we get a massive price hike anyway.
    91AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:18
    Re: #9
    The second Suga's gone, this happens.
    152AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:59
    Re: #9
    It's probably because of people who just hop from carrier to carrier for deals.
    Honestly, the old two-year contract model with cheap phones and cheap rates worked better for most citizens and for domestic manufacturers.
    Suga stuck his nose in where it didn't belong.
    15AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:27
    The government that approved this price hike bears heavy responsibility too.
    27AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:32
    Re: #15
    It's not the government that approves it, it's the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications.
    37AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:36
    Re: #27
    Since when did the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications become its own independent government?
    117AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:30
    Re: #27
    Do you even know what "government" means?
    The Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications is part of the government too.
    25AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:32
    I'm sure they'll fix the dead signal problem in the city center before this price hike kicks in, right?
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:36
    Re: #25
    Docomo acts like congestion is only an urban thing,
    but even out in the countryside it's jammed up constantly.
    64AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:56
    For what we're paying, the signal sure doesn't connect well.
    It's probably all going to the salaries of the useless office workers.
    68AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:01
    Re: #64
    At Docomo's office in central Umeda, Osaka,
    during the lunch hour,
    you see this endless stream of employees pouring out — like, do they really need that many people?
    And they all look pretty well-off too.
    They walk right past the cheap places to eat.
    84AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:17
    Is there actually a price difference between Docomo and au for similar plans?
    I keep hearing Docomo has the strongest signal and connects everywhere — is that actually true?
    Like, Docomo supposedly connects even out in the mountains.
    126AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:38
    Re: #84
    It connects in the mountains, sure.
    Just give up on any station with over 10,000 daily boardings.
    133AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:48
    Re: #84
    Docomo (official disclaimer):

    In places where traffic concentrates — terminal stations, event venues, lunchtime — speeds tend to drop.

    .
    Signals have trouble reaching areas like building shadows, underground, high floors, and well-sealed indoor spaces.

    .
    "Packet stall" caused by forcibly latching onto an unstable 5G signal


    .
    107AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:24
    Is this maybe because of more people switching to povo or UQ mobile?
    116AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:29
    Re: #107
    povo and UQ mobile are basically the same under the hood.
    If you're smart enough to understand the "topping" add-on system, povo is the better deal.
    120AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:31
    The other carriers will probably follow suit and raise prices too — wonder what Rakuten Mobile will do.
    146AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:56
    Re: #120
    They've already raised prices, you know.
    192AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:50
    Re: #120
    I'll tolerate a hike as long as it's capped at +¥330.
    121AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:32
    irumo barely got started before it was already over, huh.
    195AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:57
    Re: #121
    It's probably a plan that was an eyesore for Docomo.
    Put another way, irumo was such a godly plan that they came to kill it.
    131AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:45
    This is all SoftBank's fault.
    SoftBank raised prices even on legacy contracts first, so Docomo followed suit and broke the unwritten rule too.
    138AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:51
    Re: #131
    If you look at it as a forced-migration price hike from an old plan, you could argue Rakuten's "Saikyo" (Strongest) Plan did it first.
    140AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:53
    Re: #131
    That "lure 'em in cheap, then jack up the price" combo is brutal.
    135AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:50
    irumo 3GB → Docomo mini
    Here I am, switching plans with tears in my eyes.
    151AnonymousSep 26, 2026 09:58
    Re: #135
    So Docomo mini became the strongest plan now, huh.
    But why the tears?
    154AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:05
    Is it actually legal to raise prices after you've already signed the contract?
    If this kind of thing is allowed, companies can just lure customers in cheap and jack up prices later — total free-for-all.
    156AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:14
    Re: #154
    It is legal, actually.
    Nobody used to do it, but a certain carrier kicked that door open.
    And of course everyone else is following now.
    201AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:04
    Re: #154
    It happens in plenty of other industries too.
    (Not saying that makes it okay.)
    Well, you're always free to cancel and switch elsewhere if you don't like it.
    168AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:28
    Hey, nobody told me about this.
    This is an outrage there's no way to defend against.
    185AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:45
    Re: #168
    It's pretty heavy-handed.
    I don't think anyone's raised prices on an existing plan before, right?
    I'd get it if they just discontinued the plan, but this…
    187AnonymousSep 26, 2026 10:46
    Feels like they're already trying to ditch ahamo or something?
    198AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:02
    Re: #187
    Word is they weren't really into it from the start.
    223AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:27
    Re: #187
    Well, obviously.
    It's a plan they made reluctantly after Yoshihide Suga basically strong-armed them into cutting Japan's sky-high mobile rates.
    Same goes for povo.
    207AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:13
    Re: #98
    Kind of like how people who used to have flip phones (garakei) didn't pick Docomo next?
    224AnonymousSep 26, 2026 11:28
    Re: #207
    The smart seniors migrated over to SoftBank's "Smartphone Debut" plan.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    This price hike targets only existing plans, adding ¥550 or ¥330 per month, and specifically hits plan groups that have already stopped accepting new sign-ups. The backdrop is the low-cost plans — ahamo, povo, and irumo — that were born out of the Suga administration’s push around 2020 to force mobile carriers to cut their rates; many on the thread read this hike as “the backlash finally arriving.” That said, the approval for such hikes falls under the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, not the government directly (though the Ministry is itself part of the government), so the “the government approved this” framing floating around in some comments is a bit imprecise. Unilaterally raising prices on existing contracts is, in fact, permitted under the carriers’ terms of service, and both SoftBank and Rakuten Mobile have already carried out similar hikes. Docomo’s tendency toward slower speeds during congestion — in both urban and rural areas — also came up repeatedly as a long-standing, well-known gripe.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Telecom] Docomo raises existing plan rates — eximo and 5G Giga-Ho +¥550, irumo +¥110 to ¥330, starting December 2026“.

  • ahamo’s First-Ever Price Hike: ‘Extra Large’ Option Scrapped for a 3-Tier Plan — 5ch Asks ‘Do People Really Use 30GB?’

    NTT Docomo announced on September 25 that it will raise prices for its online-only “ahamo” plan starting December 1. This marks the first price increase since the service launched in March 2021. The “Extra Large” option, which previously let users add up to 110GB total to the base 30GB plan for an extra 4,950 yen a month, will be discontinued and replaced with a new three-tier structure: 40GB, over 40GB up to 60GB, and 120GB. The base plan will get a 10GB capacity boost along with a 165 yen price increase, bringing it to 3,135 yen. On 5ch, reactions mixed confused complaints (some assumed exceeding 40GB would automatically bump them to a pricier plan) with debate over whether people actually use 30-40GB a month, plus comparisons to rivals like Rakuten Mobile and povo.

    NTT Docomo announced on September 25 that it will raise prices for its online-only “ahamo” plan starting December 1. The 30GB plan will get a 10GB capacity increase along with a 165 yen price hike, bringing it to 3,135 yen. This is ahamo’s first price increase since the service launched in March 2021.

    Previously, the standalone ahamo plan (30GB) cost 2,970 yen, and with the “Extra Large” option included (110GB) it cost 4,950 yen. Under the new pricing, the Extra Large option will be discontinued. Both tiers get a 10GB capacity boost and a 165 yen price increase, becoming 3,135 yen (40GB) and 5,115 yen (120GB).

    Additionally, a new middle tier — “over 40GB up to 60GB” (4,125 yen) — will be added between the 40GB and 120GB tiers, creating a three-tier structure. Pricing will be determined by actual data usage, and this will apply to existing subscribers as well.

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:42
    Going over 40GB automatically bumps you to the 60GB plan for 4,125 yen — that's brutal.
    Used to be that going over 30GB just meant slower speeds.
    67AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:57
    Re: #8
    There's this thing called the 'data cap option' —
    does that mean you actually get cut off once you hit the cap?
    128AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:08
    Re: #8
    Re: #67
    Any customer with an active ahamo contract as of Sunday, November 1, 2026, will automatically have a 'data cap option' set starting Tuesday, December 1, 2026, which caps usable data at 40GB.
    10AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:43
    Is raising prices going to fix the 'can't get a signal' problem?
    100AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:02
    Re: #10
    Nope, it won't fix a thing.
    108AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:05
    Re: #10
    Exactly this. Doesn't connect at all underground or at big stations. The moment my kid canceled their kids' phone, that was it for us.
    13AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:44
    Do people really use 30GB a month?
    48AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:52
    People who blow through 50GB on their phone — do they not have Wi-Fi at home?
    79AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:59
    Re: #13
    Watching video ads and stuff, easy, no problem.
    153AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:14
    Re: #13
    You really don't need it.
    I'm on some cheap SIM's unlimited-entertainment option, 3GB a month (6GB with rollover), for under 2,000 yen.
    If you don't have Wi-Fi at home it might be necessary though.
    195AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:24
    Re: #13
    I use 100GB a month.
    Re: #48
    Home Wi-Fi isn't free either, you know.
    17AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:46
    Isn't a price hike without users' consent a breach of contract?
    29AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:48
    Re: #17
    Got hit with that on my Credit Saison American Express card's 'annual fee free forever' deal.
    I don't even have an actual Amex — I had a Seiyu card with a lifetime-free annual fee, but it expired ages ago so I already cut it up with scissors and tossed it.
    43AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:51
    Re: #17
    Rate plan price changes have never required user consent — that's been the case forever.
    23AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:47
    Me over here
    paying
    500 yen
    a month
    83AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:00
    Just switch to mineo or IIJmio.
    88AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:00
    Re: #83
    Aren't those basically unusable during the daytime though?
    90AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:01
    Re: #88
    Are you streaming video or something?
    213AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:29
    Re: #23
    That's also a price hike with no change in content.
    This is probably the first time a legacy plan that's no longer available for new contracts has gotten a price increase.
    Re: #88
    I figured povo would be faster at midday, but it wasn't really any different. Used it a little for updates in the hundreds-of-megabytes range.
    31AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:48
    Me over here
    on J:COM Mobile
    paying 1,100 yen
    a month
    36AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:50
    Re: #31
    If you can put up with the slow speed, that's fine I guess.
    40AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:50
    Re: #31
    Wasn't that thing riddled with problems just the other day?
    45AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:51
    How do you even use 40GB?
    I get it if you're some idiot playing games while walking around, but still.
    49AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:52
    Re: #45
    Even gaming doesn't use that much.
    Probably watching YouTube in high quality, right?
    55AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:54
    Re: #45
    A lot of young people run their entire internet life off their phone without using Wi-Fi even at home.
    118AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:07
    Re: #45
    Two years ago I tried leaving 5channel ads playing nonstop for a month as a test — data usage came out to over 60GB.
    47AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:51
    They're riding the wave of general price hikes and making it look incidental, but was this price increase even necessary?
    60AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:55
    Re: #47
    Same thing happened with the ice cream industry getting busted for cartel behavior, huh.
    126AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:08
    Re: #47
    They just want money.
    50AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:52
    I use about 80GB a month, roughly.
    92AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:01
    Re: #50
    I win.
    52AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:53
    Rakuten wins hands down — 100TB for 3,000 yen.
    74AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:58
    Re: #52
    I think so too, but I wonder if you can actually keep your phone bill cheap if you skip video streaming.
    76AnonymousSep 26, 2026 07:58
    Re: #52
    For home use, Rakuten really is unbeatable.
    Speeds hold up reasonably well anywhere it has coverage, too.
    228AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:32
    Re: #52
    100TB is roughly what you'd use streaming 4K video 24 hours a day for a month straight.
    That would drastically shorten the lifespan of your PC, monitor, and so on, so total cost actually goes up.
    Electricity alone would run maybe 6,000 yen — for that kind of use, fiber is the only sensible choice.
    155AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:14
    Guess a povo price hike is coming next.
    159AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:15
    Re: #155
    Feels like they might finally start charging a base fee soon.
    170AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:17
    Re: #159
    I doubt it.
    Do that and everyone would vanish overnight.
    201AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:26
    Re: #170
    They already send a service-suspension notice if you go 180+ days without paying for a topping.
    So running it effectively free with no ongoing payment isn't really sustainable long-term.
    All they'd need to do is shorten that to 30+ days or add a spending requirement, and the problem's solved.
    162AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:16
    For someone like me who does delivery work while watching YouTube in the car, this is actually a pretty decent plan.
    205AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:26
    Re: #162
    For that kind of use, Rakuten is unbeatable.
    214AnonymousSep 26, 2026 08:29
    Re: #162
    You know there was a guy who caused an accident watching cooking videos on YouTube while driving, right?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    ahamo launched in March 2021 as NTT Docomo’s online-only plan, introduced in response to government pressure to lower mobile phone rates, and this marks its first price increase since launch. On the thread, worries that “going over 40GB automatically bumps you to the pricier 4,125 yen 60GB plan” stood out, but as the explanation quoted in post 128 shows, existing subscribers will simply have a “data cap option” automatically applied from December 1 — exceeding 40GB only triggers a speed throttle, not an automatic upgrade to a more expensive tier. In other words, the “sneaky price hike” many feared is unlikely to actually happen — a nuance that got lost in the flow of the thread. The main split in opinion came down to whether people actually use 30-40GB a month: video-heavy users and those without home Wi-Fi saw it as reasonable, while light users questioned whether the price hike was even necessary. There were also plenty of comparisons to rivals like Rakuten Mobile, povo, and mineo, reflecting broader awareness of pricing pressure across the budget carrier market.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[Telecom] ahamo’s First Price Hike: ‘Extra Large’ Option Scrapped, New 3-Tier 40GB/60GB/120GB Structure.”

  • 47% Accept “Stealth” Price Hikes, But 60% Can’t Forgive “False-Bottom” Packaging

    According to a Forbes JAPAN survey, 47% of respondents said they accept ordinary price increases driven by factors like higher raw material costs — but 60% said they “can’t forgive” so-called stealth price hikes, where companies shrink the amount of product while keeping the price the same, especially the tactic of raising a container’s false bottom to make the contents look smaller. The story lit up 5channel’s News Speed+ board (a current-events forum on 5ch, Japan’s largest anonymous bulletin-board site), with posters piling on familiar examples — shrinking potato chip bags, the two different fill weights of Bourbon’s Alfort chocolate biscuits, the thin rice layer in 7-Eleven bento boxes. But the thread soon split over “what actually counts as a false bottom in the first place,” turning into a debate that a simple net-weight label alone couldn’t settle.

    47% Accept Stealth Price Hikes, But 60% Can’t Forgive “False-Bottom” Containers | Forbes JAPAN

    2026.09.25 16:15

    Forbes JAPAN Web News | Forbes JAPAN Editorial Team

    Source: forbesjapan.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:44
    It's because 7-Eleven got a new president and they've had a change of heart.
    50AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:56
    Re: #3
    Didn't the old guy just get bumped up to chairman after running things into the ground?
    72AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:02
    Re: #3
    Not buying it that easily.
    78AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:03
    Re: #3
    I'm not going back there anyway, so they can "reflect" all they want lol
    16AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:49
    Isn't there an option to just keep the amount the same, lower the quality a bit, and hold the price steady?
    115AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:15
    Re: #16
    That's basically what "no-filling XX" products are.
    216AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:50
    Just raise the price normally, that'd be fine.
    This stuff messes up the price index and is basically a social ill.

    Re: #16
    Not 100% sure, but I think they do that too.
    Can't help it for things with natural harvest variation,
    but sneakily doing it just to match inflation is the same as shrinking the amount — if there's an alternative, that maker goes on my no-buy list.
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 19:59
    Bourbon's Alfort [a popular chocolate-topped biscuit brand] bags come in two different content weights, but you can't tell at a glance. Thought I'd found a cheap one — turned out to be the smaller-content bag. Felt scammed, won't buy it again.
    97AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:11
    Re: #65
    The wallet-shaped Alfort box is the best value. Even that's gotten pricier though.
    89AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:09
    Top 3 unforgivable stealth price hikes:
    False-bottom containers
    "Coffee" becoming "coffee beverage" [a labeling downgrade signaling less real coffee content]
    "Now easier to hold!" [marketing-speak for a smaller container]
    What's the last one?
    100AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:12
    Re: #89
    "Chocolate" becoming "quasi-chocolate" [a cheaper, lower-cocoa-content category under Japanese labeling rules]
    93AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:10
    Ate one of those two-tier 7-Eleven bento boxes and was shocked how thin the rice layer was.
    98AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:12
    Re: #93
    You can see clear down to the bottom of the container lol
    105AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:13
    Shrinking the amount
    AND raising the price —

    that's a double price hike.
    111AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:15
    Re: #105
    And they're probably cutting the quality on top of that too, making it even stealthier so nobody notices.
    128AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:20
    So who are the people who actually forgive this? They're literally trying to deceive you.
    184AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:36
    Re: #128
    People who'd rather a 500-yen item stay at 500 yen with less inside — because if it becomes 550 yen instead, they can't afford other things.
    140AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:25
    You can see the price and decide for yourself whether to buy — but a false bottom means you're being deceived, so of course it's worse.
    151AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:29
    Re: #140
    There's a net-weight label right there though.
    144AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:26
    It's like dealing with someone who keeps telling lies that get found out instantly — it feels like they're mocking you.
    I mean, they ARE mocking you, right?
    154AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:30
    Re: #144
    Yeah, they're probably picturing the customers buying it and cracking up in the product-planning meeting, like the crew on a prank show.
    158AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:31
    I've genuinely stopped going to 7-Eleven.
    Convenience-store quality at high-end-supermarket prices,
    and the false bottoms are way over the line.
    The "cheapskate" image has stuck.
    174AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:34
    Re: #158
    What even IS the definition of a "false bottom" in the first place — how is it distinguished from a shape designed to prevent uneven microwave heating?
    What condition counts as a false bottom? If it's a sloped type, at what angle does it become one? If it's a stepped type, what height ratio counts? Until that's pinned down, you can't actually judge whether something is a false bottom or not.
    171AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:33
    I don't get what "can't forgive" even means — buyers don't have that kind of authority.
    But sure, there are products I'll never buy again.
    177AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:36
    Re: #171
    I think it's more that the bigger the letdown relative to what you expected, the easier it is to feel resentment.
    Not a price-hike case, but along the same lines, a strawberry milk went viral for having a clear bottle printed with red graphics that people mistook for strawberry pulp — only to find there was no actual pulp inside.
    178AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:36
    Re: #174
    Who cares about that. Plenty of consumers feel it, and even the new president admitted it.
    186AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:37
    Re: #178
    If the definition isn't clear, there's no actual standard to judge by — so calling any given product a "false bottom" becomes pretty shaky, doesn't it?
    191AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:39
    Re: #186
    Can't have a conversation with someone who needs everything formally defined before they'll accept it.
    195AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:41
    Re: #186
    The gap between appearance and reality is exactly what makes it a false bottom — so it's a separate issue from the actual content amount.
    A false bottom can even be a fun surprise sometimes; the difference all comes down to expectations.
    210AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:46
    Don't dress it up with a cute name like "stealth" — they're straight-up deceiving consumers.
    213AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:49
    Re: #210
    Deceiving how? Manufactured food products list the net weight and calories right on the package, don't they? Sounds like you just aren't checking.
    218AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:51
    Re: #213
    How many times is this you've posted in this thread now?
    224AnonymousSep 25, 2026 20:52
    Re: #213
    Are you a 7-Eleven employee or something lol
    Plenty of people watch their calories, but hardly anyone checks the net weight every single time lol

    Background and key points of the discussion

    The numbers here come from a consumer survey reported by Forbes JAPAN. It found that resistance runs stronger toward “stealth price hikes” — shrinking the contents while holding the sticker price steady, especially the tactic of raising a container’s bottom to make the contents look smaller — than toward ordinary price increases where the hike is stated outright. On the thread, posters offered concrete, everyday examples of quantities being quietly trimmed in ways easy to miss — potato chips, the rice portion in bento boxes, differing fill weights between versions of the same snack — while others pushed back that “without a clear definition of a false bottom, there’s no way to judge what actually qualifies,” pitting gut-level outrage against calls for a rigorous standard. Underlying it all is distrust not so much of price increases themselves as of the practice of shrinking products without anyone noticing — and the discussion also touched on how closely (or not) consumers actually check net-weight labels themselves.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+ board) thread “[False Bottoms] 47% Accept Stealth Price Hikes, But 60% Can’t Forgive “Container Bottom-Raising”.”

  • Is a Weak Yen Good for Japan? 5ch: ‘It’s Like Arguing Over Ideal Temperature’

    A thread titled “Is a weak yen actually in Japan’s national interest?” on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board sparked a heated debate over currency policy. Opinions clashed between those who see the weak yen as a symptom of declining national credibility and worry about eroding asset values, and those who point to the room it gives for low interest rates and the boost to exporters’ earnings. Some even proposed switching to a fixed exchange rate system. The discussion also spilled into tax policy, debating how the pace of tax hikes and the fiscal deficit relate to the weak yen — with no consensus emerging even among experts.

    1AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:48
    Feels like the conservative-leaning crowd won't tolerate anyone opposing the weak yen these days
    6AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:50
    If you want a weak yen, bring in immigrants.
    Japanese people don't want blue-collar jobs, so the weak yen barely helps anyone.
    15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:53
    Re: #6
    Why would anyone bother coming all the way here to work for a weak currency?
    161AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:34
    Re: #6
    To bring in immigrants in the first place, you need to keep the yen's value up.
    There's no way elite foreigners — the kind who can learn Japanese and handle Japan's advanced jobs (even convenience store shifts here count as advanced by global standards) — are coming to earn some garbage currency.
    8AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:51
    Too strong is bad, too weak is bad — there's just a sweet spot. That's all this is.
    10AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:52
    Re: #8
    Nobody actually knows where that sweet spot is.
    11AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:52
    Re: #8
    Then couldn't we just fix the exchange rate at that ideal number?
    18AnonymousSep 25, 2026 11:54
    This is as much a false binary as asking "is it better to be hot or cold?"
    Obviously a comfortable temperature is best, and obviously no sudden swings is best.
    45AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:03
    Re: #18
    Going by that logic, couldn't you just peg the rate (temperature) at the comfortable level?
    55AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:07
    Re: #45
    A "fixed" exchange rate only looks fixed — behind the scenes the government is constantly buying and selling currency to hold that level.
    If Japan declared a fixed rate, it would just mean intervening endlessly to keep it at, say, 160 yen.
    Not that different from now.
    95AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:18
    Re: #45
    Maybe water temperature is the better analogy then?
    Air temperature changes on its own, but water temperature has to be actively adjusted to suit the season.
    60AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:08
    The weak yen is dragging this country further into decline though
    63AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:09
    Re: #60
    Nice try, hater — this country's been declining for 30+ years, that's old news.
    67AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:10
    Re: #60
    You talk like Japan's decline would just stop if the yen got stronger.
    74AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:12
    Re: #60
    You've got the causality backwards.
    The yen is weak because national credibility is declining.
    If credibility rose, the yen would strengthen.

    Tax cuts erode credibility, so they weaken the yen.
    Tax hikes build credibility, so they strengthen it.
    65AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:09
    Japan's economy boomed during the weak-yen years.
    It stagnated during the strong-yen years.
    71AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:12
    Re: #65
    Abenomics saw GDP drop 30%, so that logic doesn't hold up.
    73AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:12
    Re: #65
    What do you even mean by "economic growth"?
    Stock prices or something? lol
    80AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:13
    Re: #65
    What matters is that the yen was stable during Japan's actual growth years. These days pretty much only Yoichi Takahashi (a well-known pro-Abenomics economist) claims a weak yen equals growth.
    115AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:22
    Are you seriously happy watching your own currency lose its value?
    How would you feel if your car or your house dropped in value like that?
    130AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:25
    Re: #115
    Exactly.
    People holding assets right now lose out,
    which is why they hate the weak yen.
    142AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:28
    Re: #115
    That's just because other countries printed too much money and got forced into high interest rates.
    Japan having room for low rates is actually an advantage.
    120AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:23
    Re: #115
    Which is exactly why the only way to get a stronger yen is to raise taxes.
    136AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:27
    Re: #120
    So why does the yen keep weakening even though taxes have kept going up…?
    140AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:28
    Re: #136
    Because spending on the public is growing even faster —
    the national budget keeps ballooning faster than the tax hikes can keep up.
    148AnonymousSep 25, 2026 12:30
    Re: #136
    The pace of tax hikes is nowhere near enough.
    We're not running a fiscal surplus, so of course it gets worse every year.

    Debt: 1,000 trillion yen.
    Spending this year: 120 trillion yen.
    Tax revenue after the hikes: 70 trillion yen.
    Debt grew by 50 trillion yen.
    Of course the yen weakens.
    If you want a stronger yen, raise taxes more and actually pay down the debt.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    A weak or strong yen cuts through the economy via multiple channels — exporters’ earnings, prices, and the real value of held assets — so it doesn’t reduce neatly to a simple “good” or “bad.” The fixed exchange rate idea raised in the thread is also easy to misread: in practice it just means the government and the Bank of Japan buying and selling currency without limit to hold a target level, which is really an extension of the current floating-rate system rather than something fundamentally different. It’s also worth noting that “record-high” nominal GDP or corporate earnings figures partly reflect the boost from a weaker yen, so confusing them with real, inflation-adjusted figures can distort the picture. On the link between the fiscal deficit and the weak yen, some blame the slow pace of tax hikes while others point to ballooning government spending — and even experts remain divided.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[In-Depth Debate] So, Is a Weak Yen Actually in Japan’s National Interest? Even Experts Are Divided.”