Category: Baseball

  • J2 Niigata’s Yoshiro Takagi Retires: ‘I Was Happy I Got to Play Soccer’ — Second Son of Ex-Pro Baseball Star Yutaka Takagi

    Forward Yoshiro Takagi (33), who spent eight seasons with J2 club Albirex Niigata, announced his retirement from professional football through the club on September 4. Looking back on his career, he said in the club’s statement, “I love soccer” and “As a player, I feel a refreshing sense that I gave it everything I had, emotionally.” His father is former professional baseball player Yutaka Takagi, and all three of his sons — including Yoshiro — chose soccer over baseball and went on to become professional players. On 5channel’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ (Geisoku) thread, discussion centered on why all three brothers chose a sport different from their father’s, along with an anecdote reportedly involving Takatsu telling Yutaka Takagi something about his son and soccer.

    J2 side Albirex Niigata announced through the club on the 4th that Yoshiro Takagi (33), who spent eight years with the team through the 2025 season, will retire from professional play.

    The club stated: “We would like to announce that Yoshiro Takagi, who was with our club through the 2025 season, has decided to retire from professional football.”

    Takagi offered his own comment through the club, reflecting on his career: “I have decided to retire from professional football. I love soccer. But as a player, I feel a refreshing sense that I have truly given it everything, emotionally.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:04
    Way more fun watching Showa-retro exploration videos on YouTube than that Peace-kun mascot from Omiya Park.
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:04
    The 'Wheels' sports-car trio (likely a joking nod to Hot Wheels toy cars)
    8AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:07
    This guy's older brother played for Shimizu or Urawa, I think.
    12AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:08
    Ohtani's retiring next year too, just you wait.
    14AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:09
    Announced by the club he was with through '25…
    so is he a free agent right now?
    28AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:19
    Re: #14
    He's been job-hunting since last season ended, but apparently gave up since he wasn't getting any offers he was happy with.
    15AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:12
    Feels like I haven't heard his name in about 15 years.
    16AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:13
    The eldest brother was the better player as a footballer, wasn't he?
    17AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:13
    He was the most talented of the three brothers.
    19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:14
    Wasn't he part of that so-called 'Platinum Generation'?
    I remember him being hyped as amazing back in junior high.
    21AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:15
    Guess he'll retire and become a youth coach or something.
    Probably pays around 150,000 yen a month.
    22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:16
    The old Pro Baseball News segment from back during the Usami urban-legend days (a viral story once tied to soccer player Takashi Usami).
    23AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:16
    The Takagi family — three sons, and not one of them chose baseball.
    25AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:18
    Re: #23
    They all made it pro precisely because they didn't choose baseball.
    26AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:19
    It's amazing all three kids became pros,
    but why'd they end up in a different sport from their dad?
    33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:22
    Re: #26
    All three of them are shorties, barely 170cm.

    That height makes baseball tough, so soccer was the right call.
    34AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:23
    Re: #26
    Baseball rules ban pros from coaching amateurs,
    and that applies even within families.

    So apparently they just didn't get much exposure to baseball.
    39AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:26
    Re: #26
    It's a well-known story — the eldest started out playing baseball but got bored and asked to switch to soccer, and his dad allowed it. Then the second son started soccer too, and the third son played soccer from the start.
    Watching his sons, Yutaka Takagi himself got hooked on soccer and started studying it on his own.
    27AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:19
    The second and third sons are the spitting image of Yutaka, but the eldest is the only good-looking one here.
    46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:32
    Re: #27
    He's got a bit of an underbite, but he's clearly more handsome than his younger brothers — though within 10 years all three brothers will end up looking like tired old uncles ('2323' = 'nii-san nii-san', slang for looking middle-aged).
    29AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:20
    Handsome guy.
    Could've been an actor.
    Though the hair's a gamble.
    30AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:20
    If he played pro ball in J2 into his 30s, isn't that plenty good?
    In baseball terms, that's like being a starter for 2-3 years, then finishing out his career as a pinch hitter or defensive sub before retiring at 33, right?
    32AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:21
    Not sure he'd have been a star, but he probably would've earned more over his career if he'd played baseball.
    36AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:24
    Re: #33
    Pointless trolling isn't cool.

    These days the national soccer team is actually taller on average than the national baseball team, you know.
    41AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:26
    Re: #36
    That can't be right.
    My image of soccer is mostly guys just over 170cm, with the occasional 180+ popping up, and maybe one guy at 190.
    42AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:28
    Re: #41
    In soccer, the defenders tend to be unusually tall, and that's what drags the average height up.
    66AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:54
    Re: #41
    Soccer average: 181cm
    Tallest: Goto, 191cm
    Shortest: Nagatomo, 170cm

    Baseball average: 179cm
    Tallest: Ohtani, 193cm
    Shortest: Genda, 170cm

    Or so they say.
    37AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:25
    He'll probably become a YouTuber (´・ω・`)
    47AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:32
    Ended his career without ever really making it big.
    Guess the result would've been the same if he'd played 'yakyu' too (a mocking, exaggerated pronunciation of 'baseball').
    51AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:34
    Honestly there's not much difference between the guys who make it pro and the ones who don't — it's razor-thin margins, and luck plays a huge part.
    No doubt he got looked at through biased eyes because his dad is Yutaka Takagi.
    61AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:47
    Re: #51
    He's got 70 J1 appearances and nearly 300 in J2 —
    he's not some borderline player, so that's completely irrelevant.
    54AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:36
    Pretty impressive that all three of them did decently well in pro soccer.
    They all got J1 appearances too.
    Makes you wonder how they'd have done in baseball.
    69AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:55
    Re: #54
    They probably couldn't have even gone pro.
    Even Kiyohara's sons couldn't manage that.
    74AnonymousSep 4, 2026 18:58
    Re: #66
    Players of African descent or mixed heritage are what's pulling the average height up, right?
    76AnonymousSep 4, 2026 19:01
    Re: #74
    Why don't mixed-heritage kids play baseball??
    Seems like the competition's thinner, so it'd be easier to go pro.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Yoshiro Takagi made 70 career appearances in J1 and nearly 300 in J2 — by no means a short career. Opinion in the thread split over whether his father’s fame as a well-known former pro baseball player affected how he was evaluated, with some citing his playing record as proof it was irrelevant, and others arguing his name recognition inevitably introduced bias. As for how all three brothers ended up choosing a different sport from their father, one reply explained it started when the eldest brother switched from baseball to soccer, and another pointed to a rule barring professional baseball players from directly coaching non-professionals — even family members — as a possible factor; however, this is secondhand information circulating within the thread and hasn’t been confirmed against primary sources. The same caution applies to the anecdote in which Takatsu reportedly told Yutaka Takagi “don’t let him play soccer” — the exact wording varies between replies, so the precise content of that remark can’t be pinned down from the material available here.

    *This article was compiled and summarized from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] J2 Niigata’s Yoshiro Takagi (33) Retires — Announcement: “I’m truly happy to have gotten to play soccer this long” — Second Son of Former Pro Baseball Player Yutaka Takagi.”

  • Something’s Off With Shohei Ohtani: After Left Knee, Now Neck Discomfort Too — Two-Way Return in Doubt

    With Shohei Ohtani mired in a slump — no home runs in 12 games since September began — he was left out of the starting lineup on the 3rd against the Cardinals for the first time in about a month. On top of the previously reported inflammation in his left knee, it has now emerged that he’s also dealing with neck discomfort, leaving his prospects for a late-season return to two-way duty up in the air. On 5ch, some worried about him pushing through and playing hurt, while others argued he should adjust his pitching schedule to rest up for the postseason — and plenty simply wondered how you even hurt your neck playing baseball.

    “Something’s Off” With 32-Year-Old Ohtani… After Left Knee Inflammation, Now Neck Discomfort Too — This Season’s Two-Way Return in Doubt

    As September brings the MLB regular season into its final stretch, something is wrong with Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani (32).

    Still mired in a slump with no home runs in 12 straight games, he was pulled from the starting lineup on the 3rd against the Cardinals — his first time out of the lineup in about a month.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:11
    Fine to keep doing the two-way thing, but he should pitch on 8 days' rest or something.
    And honestly, there are other pitchers on the roster — he didn't need to push himself like this.
    He's the only guy who can do 50-50.

    Maybe he's panicking because Yamamoto's about to steal his Cy Young?
    5AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:11
    Best part of all this: no more "Ohtani harassment" (the endless flood of Ohtani-focused news coverage drowning out everything else).
    7AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:11
    Wait, you can get hurt playing baseball?
    I get running into a fence or getting hit by a ball, but what else is there to injure yourself on?
    19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:15
    Re: #7
    Because it involves brutal movements like sprinting and then suddenly stopping.
    Ever heard of another sport with such a superhuman feat as running and then stopping?
    38AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:21
    Re: #19
    Man, how little do you know about other sports lol
    10AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:13
    He kept saying his knee hurt while still stealing bases and sliding.
    Now it's the neck-hurts-neck-hurts scam?
    14AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:14
    Watch him say all this and then go on a home run tear once the postseason starts.
    15AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:14
    Guess the backlash from turning his whole body into a cyborg has finally caught up with him.
    17AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:15
    Guess the two-way workload really does take a toll after all.
    20AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:15
    Murakami barely hits compared to Ohtani, but he's more fun to watch — drawing walks and still finding ways to factor into runs 😉
    22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:16
    Antis wanted to say the lineup flows better without Ohtani, but that run only scored because of the other team's error — kind of sad for them.
    25AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:17
    Send him down to the minors already!!
    I could hit better than that right now.
    27AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:17
    Favoring the knee is messing up everything else.
    I want him to rest up and get ready for the postseason.
    33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:20
    Re: #27
    Yeah, you end up favoring it without even realizing.
    28AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:17
    It got Kiyohara too, and now even Ohtani. Bulk up like that and the backlash comes for everyone equally. Ichiro had it right all along.
    36AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:21
    Re: #28
    Yeah, lions don't hit the weight room.
    42AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:22
    Instead of just saying "of course pros are always hurt somewhere," maybe he should spend a full year on complete maintenance — his career would last longer and his performance would improve too.
    43AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:22
    Hurt your knee, start walking weird, and next thing you know you've thrown out your neck.
    46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:23
    Funny that Vantelin (a pain-relief cream brand) is one of his sponsors.
    47AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:23
    Come on, if his neck's messed up too, just shut him down for the rest of the season and get a full workup. He's got plenty of years left in his career.
    48AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:23
    My shoulders've been awful stiff too, y'know.
    Me and Ohtani — same boat.
    50AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:24
    He's always known it'd be "live fast, burn out" — this is nothing new at this point.
    51AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:24
    The knee's bad, but the neck is way worse.
    There's a good chance it's nerve-related.
    53AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:25
    For the sake of his future, wouldn't it be better if he properly rested up?
    54AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:25
    The neck? How do you even hurt that playing baseball lol
    55AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:26
    Itoi's pattern was left ankle leading to right knee.
    Ohtani's is right ankle leading to left knee.
    56AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:26
    His body's out of balance. Neck issues can really drag on if they go bad, so it'd be smart to hit the injured list and take even just two weeks to heal up properly. Counting backward from the World Series, there's still a long road ahead.
    68AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:29
    If he's hurting somewhere new even just as a DH, he might not even be able to play baseball at all lol
    73AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:31
    Re: #68
    Is he becoming a commentator?
    75AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:32
    Does MLB even offer acupuncture? Seems like it'd be good for maintenance.
    87AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:36
    Re: #75
    Wasn't there that time Sawamura, back in his Giants days, got botched acupuncture treatment and it turned into a real mess?
    78AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:34
    So he really was on steroids, huh (joking accusation).
    83AnonymousSep 4, 2026 13:35
    Re: #78
    These days training machines and theory are advanced enough that you don't need anything like that.

    Background and Talking Points

    Ohtani has remained in the rotation as a two-way player again this season, and the heavy toll of also handling baserunning and fielding on top of that has repeatedly come up for discussion. As for this new neck discomfort, some in the thread speculate that compensating for the knee threw off his posture and contributed to it — but it’s worth noting the team and Ohtani himself haven’t given any specific explanation, so this remains pure speculation from 5ch users. The thread split between critics arguing ‘he should report pain earlier’ and defenders countering that ‘some pain is just part of being a pro,’ with disagreement over whether he should prioritize rest now with the postseason in mind. Note also that a few posts speculated this is tied to next year’s WBC — that angle isn’t mentioned in the original article and remains unconfirmed conjecture.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[MLB] “Something’s Off” With 32-Year-Old Shohei Ohtani — After Left Knee Inflammation, Now Neck Discomfort Discovered Too… This Season’s Two-Way Return in Doubt.”

  • Masumi Kuwata Reveals Inside Story of His Giants Exit, Fuels Talk of Managing Another Team — 5ch: “He Didn’t See Eye to Eye with Abe”

    Masumi Kuwata, who stepped down as manager of the Yomiuri Giants’ farm (ni-gun) team last October, revealed the circumstances behind his departure on a radio program aired August 30. According to Kuwata, the team had told him during the Miyazaki Phoenix League that they wanted him back next year, only to suddenly tell him to hang up his uniform, giving an explanation to the effect of “it’s hard to work with me around.” On 5ch, users pointed to friction with the farm team’s general manager at the time, while others speculated Kuwata could end up managing another team next season. Reactions especially focused on his name coming up as a candidate for the DeNA BayStars job, with the discussion spreading to his relationship with Kazuhiro Kiyohara and the Giants’ tendency to favor homegrown talent.

    Masumi Kuwata, who abruptly stepped down as the Giants’ farm team manager last fall, has revealed the details behind his departure on a radio show. His candid remarks about internal team relationships and coaching philosophy have sparked surprise both inside and outside the baseball world. While some Giants fans are now calling for him to become next season’s manager, the possibility of him taking charge of another club is also gaining real traction.

    Masumi Kuwata explains why he left the Giants

    Appearing on the radio program “Ikushima Hiroshi’s Sunday at 9” on August 30, Kuwata explained his reasons for leaving the Giants last October. At the time, during the Miyazaki Phoenix League, the team had told him they wanted him back next year — only for him to be abruptly told one day to hang up his uniform. He also revealed he was given an explanation along the lines of “it’s hard for people to work with me around.”

    Source: jprime.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:32
    So he betrayed Kiyohara, and now the Giants betrayed him?
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:34
    I always figured Kuwata and the Giants were on bad terms already — guess not?
    6AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:35
    The record for most home runs by a rookie in a season is held by Kiyohara and Kuwata.
    7AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:35
    To today's players he's basically nothing more than "some guy named Matt's dad" at this point.
    10AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:36
    Re: #7
    This, so true.
    8AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:36
    The Giants probably would've let him manage if he hadn't gone to MLB in the end.
    Time to finally ditch that old tradition.
    36AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #8
    Sugano and Okamoto both went to the majors too.
    After Sakamoto, there's really no talent left.
    57AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:54
    Re: #8
    I'm dying for Matsui to become manager — does MLB experience even matter?
    13AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:39
    Re: #1
    Want him as Shinjo's successor.
    We need a manager who's moved on from old-guard spirit-based baseball to modern theory.
    14AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:39
    I just can't picture Kuwata as a "Giants for life" type.
    18AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:40
    So Matt's the one who cut him loose from all that baggage, huh.
    19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:40
    A guy you don't want to get tangled up with —
    worse than Kiyo (Kiyohara).
    21AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:40
    The moment he suddenly started trash-talking, I figured that meant no offer for next season had come in.
    22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:41
    It wasn't FLASH, it was Josei Jishin (a Japanese weekly tabloid magazine).
    23AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:41
    Re: #22
    Oh, Shukan Josei ("Weekly Woman") — my mistake.
    33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:44
    Well, there are plenty of other candidates, so it probably won't come around to Kuwata.
    56AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:54
    Re: #33
    There really isn't anyone else. Going by the "pure Giants blood" rule and requiring ace-pitcher or cleanup-hitter caliber, it's basically just:
    Hara (cutting it close age-wise)
    Abe, Takahashi, Saito Masaki, Sakamoto
    and that's about it.
    34AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:45
    Oisix will probably get its own first-team squad eventually —
    and when that happens, wouldn't Kuwata be the manager?
    35AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:45
    He said it was hard to work with Kuwata around —
    well, now Abe's gone from the Giants too, lol.
    39AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:47
    Re: #35
    If Kuwata had stuck around, wouldn't it be him running things instead of Hashigami?
    51AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:52
    Re: #35
    Then come back already.
    37AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:47
    Farewell, Masumi Kuwata. Farewell, pro baseball.
    40AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:47
    They picked eel over Kuwata and still got betrayed, lol.
    42AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:49
    DeNA gets Kuwata, and the Fighters get Daisuke Matsuzaka, huh.
    43AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:49
    Japanese sports have improved a lot since ditching all that spirit-based mentality.
    46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:50
    Re: #43
    Back in the Showa era they used to glorify stuff like training through injuries or playing with a broken bone — things that, in hindsight, you should never actually do.
    69AnonymousSep 4, 2026 09:59
    Kuwata's clearly a stubborn guy.
    Even from the outside you can tell, so of course that's how it'd play out on the inside.
    72AnonymousSep 4, 2026 10:00
    Re: #69
    Sounds like he just didn't see eye to eye with Abe.
    He's the blunt, say-it-like-it-is type after all.
    77AnonymousSep 4, 2026 10:04
    Komada was let go for the exact same reason, at the exact same point during fall camp —
    so the real answer is that Abe was the problem, not Kuwata.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Kuwata was the ace pitcher of the famous “KK Combo” alongside Kazuhiro Kiyohara, and the two joined the Giants together after starring at PL Gakuen high school. After retiring, and following a stint in Major League Baseball, he took on a coaching role with the Giants’ farm team. The term “Oh Sadaharu path” refers to the precedent of Giants-bred figures going on to succeed as managers of other teams, and the same possibility is now being floated for Kuwata. Opinions in the thread were split between those praising his theory-driven, non-spirit-based coaching style, and those who felt his blunt, say-it-straight personality tends to create friction within an organization. Some posts also pointed to a former player who was let go at the same point in fall camp for the same reason, raising questions about the Giants’ farm-team system itself. It’s worth noting that the account of his departure comes solely from Kuwata’s own remarks, and the team has not issued any official explanation.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Baseball] Did Masumi Kuwata Brace for a Break with the Giants? Bombshell Behind His “Shock Departure” Fuels Real Talk of “Managing Another Team Next Season” and the “Oh Sadaharu Path”… DeNA the Frontrunner? [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.

  • Shohei Ohtani Benched, Set for “Talks” With Team — 5ch: “Same Old Story as His Angels Days, LOL”

    Shohei Ohtani has been left out of the starting lineup for tonight’s game, and it’s been revealed he’ll hold “talks” with the team over concerns with his left knee and right upper arm. He struck out in all four at-bats the previous night, putting renewed focus on whether he can keep up the two-way act. Cole is expected to take over at DH. On 5ch, a wave of comments voiced déjà vu, calling it “just like his Angels days,” with opinions splitting between those questioning his insistence on staying two-way, others revisiting his pitching numbers, and some comparing him to Ichiro’s remarkably injury-free career.

    Ohtani Out of Starting Lineup… Second Time This Second Half, First in 41 Games — Left Knee, Right Upper Arm Concerns — Heading Into “Talks” With Team… Two-Way Play May Be Abandoned as Future Plans Reviewed — Struck Out in All 4 At-Bats the Night Before — Cole to DH

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:09
    Things are getting seriously out of hand lol
    3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:09
    He's literally repeating the exact same thing from his Angels days lmao
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:10
    Why doesn't this guy ever learn lol
    16AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:11
    Re: #4
    Because he doesn't listen to anyone
    5AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:10
    Feels like this exact same thing happened a few years ago too 😅
    8AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:10
    Getting benched like this — he's basically not even treated as a real roster piece anymore lol
    9AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:10
    Makes all that serious Cy Young debate look kind of stupid now
    12AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:11
    *Note: he's set to collect ¥70 billion over 7 years starting next season
    23AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:14
    Re: #12
    They handed him ¥100 billion because he'd be a two-way player, and now he turns out to be a DH-only guy who can't even hit — even Rendon would be shocked, this is a scam of a deal
    13AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:11
    Feels like some absolute disaster case of a player just got born, no? (lit. "death-row inmate")
    14AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:11
    This is where clinging to the two-way dream gets you
    The hitter-only "Da-tani" days (a nickname blending "batter" and Ohtani) were way better
    18AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:12
    Guess he might actually retire within my lifetime at this rate
    19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:13
    Honestly this is disrespecting not just the Dodgers but every baseball player out there

    He wants to be a two-way player, but he's hurt, but he still wants to pitch, but he doesn't want to listen to the doctors, but he doesn't want to rehab in the minors, but he doesn't want to go on the injured list, but he wants to jump straight into starting with no buildup, but he can only go one inning so the bullpen has to cover the rest, and on top of all that he gets shelled anyway


    Seriously, what is going on with this guy?
    26AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:15
    Re: #19
    He's being way too self-centered honestly
    It'd be better for the team if he just healed up properly and came back quick
    33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:17
    Re: #19
    Rough seeing this at 32 years old
    Doesn't seem like how a functioning adult behaves
    42AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:20
    Re: #19
    People have been saying for years that all he cares about is his own stats
    20AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:13
    Guess he was never going to beat Ichiro, who went into the Hall of Fame with almost a unanimous vote
    21AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:13
    So which way's he leaning — pitching or hitting?
    24AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:14
    Re: #21
    If he wants that Cy Young, he'll keep pitching
    29AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:15
    Re: #21
    Hitting, obviously
    He's got the home run title and the RBI title
    28AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:15
    His career pitching WAR is 16, lower than Iwakuma's
    And he's been in the majors since age 23

    Does he even need to keep doing this anymore?
    32AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:16
    Re: #28
    Even Uehara — a reliever, and like 40 years old at that — has a career WAR of 13, so he's basically been reliever-level the whole time anyway
    37AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:18
    An outside big-money import who won't even listen to the team must be an absolute nightmare to manage
    38AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:19
    Re: #37
    Sounds like Balentien
    44AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:20
    Keisuke Honda: "I'm interested in how Ohtani carries himself once he starts heading into decline."
    "I don't think athletes differ that much from each other at their peak. It's when the ball stops carrying, or he stops hitting, or he can't pitch anymore — I think that's when things really begin, so that's what I want to watch for."
    Looks like that moment's arriving sooner than expected…
    46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:21
    Re: #44
    Everything this guy says just sounds annoying
    49AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:22
    Ohtani struggling this much just shows how insane Ichiro really was lol
    53AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:24
    Re: #49
    Staying injury-free that whole career really does make him a monster
    55AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:24
    Re: #42
    American athletes are big on chasing records
    There's a lot of pointless records they force out just to have one
    60AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:27
    Re: #55
    That's been true since his Nippon-Ham days
    Or really, since the draft even
    63AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:27
    Will we get to see Ohtani show up as a guest on the Satozaki Channel (a YouTube show hosted by blunt-talking ex-catcher Tomoya Satozaki) in a few years and get lectured?
    74AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:32
    Re: #63
    Won't he be someone nobody even bothers with by then?
    65AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:27
    Ohtani gets treated like some mysterious saint, but
    he's actually a total prima donna
    67AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:28
    Re: #65
    "It's fine when I do it!"
    72AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:30
    Re: #65
    His face really gives a lot away
    82AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:38
    Re: #65
    Someone who openly writes that he hates anyone who isn't an "outgoing type" (陽キャ, extrovert-type slang) can't have that great a personality
    77AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:33
    Just shows what a monster Ichiro was, batting .311 for his career across roughly 15,000 plate appearances
    The reason he was feared in the majors was that he kept up that level of performance while playing 160 games a year
    80AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:35
    Re: #77
    Well sure, it's easy when you're just chasing your own stats for years on a low-level team with no shot at a title
    Guys without a ring don't even belong in the same conversation

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Ohtani signed a 10-year, $700 million contract with the Dodgers in December 2023, an unusual deal in which the bulk of the money is deferred. His current attempt at two-way play comes after two Tommy John surgeries, in 2018 and 2023, and concerns about injury risk have long been raised. In the thread, character judgments like “selfish” and “self-centered” are mixed in with arguments based on his career pitching stats, so readers should separate what’s objective data from what’s just opinion. Comparisons to Ichiro also keep coming up, but there’s disagreement over whether it’s fair to directly compare an outfielder who played as an everyday regular for years to a player attempting the unprecedented challenge of being a two-way pitcher-hitter. Note that the pitching WAR figures cited in the thread are claims from 5ch posters and have not been checked against primary sources.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “[Bad News] Shohei Ohtani Benched, Set to Abandon Two-Way Play Tonight After Talks With Team WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.”

  • ‘He’s completely finished,’ fans say — Shohei Ohtani’s prolonged slump and injuries cast a shadow over his two-way future

    Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani went 0-for-4 with four strikeouts in the September 2 (local time) game against the Cardinals, and the team lost 6-8 in 10 innings. Tokyo Sports reports that criticism of Ohtani has intensified in the US following the game. On 5ch threads, opinions split between those praising his return from injury and continued two-way play — “8 wins and 30 home runs is plenty” — and harsher takes calling the season’s trajectory concerning, given a strong first half followed by a second-half slide. Discussion continued without a clear consensus on whether the slump stems from his injury or changes in his personal life.

    Thu, Sep 3, 22:09

    Tokyo Sports WEB

    Four strikeouts was just the entry point to something more unsettling. Dodgers pitcher-hitter Shohei Ohtani (32) went 0-for-4 with four strikeouts in the Cardinals game at home at Dodger Stadium on the 2nd (the 3rd in Japan time), and the team lost 6-8 in 10 innings. But what’s stirring up more talk in the US than the result itself is the harsh language now being directed at Ohtani.

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:02
    Best part is the nonstop 'Ohtani coverage' has finally let up
    10AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:06
    Re: #2
    Now it's 'Ohtani is finished' hysteria that's kicked off
    99AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:25
    Re: #2
    I just want him to keep quiet like this for now
    6AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:05
    Six straight years with 30+ homers is impressive — even if it's mostly against scrubs
    8AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:05
    PCA's just a center fielder, right?
    I'd say the guy who was pitching in the first half is on another level
    62AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:18
    Re: #8
    Ohtani barely pitches and doesn't even play defense lol
    11AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:06
    Baseball fanboys ('yakibuta,' a slur for obsessive NPB/MLB die-hards) have been using Ohtani as a club to beat down other sports' athletes with.

    This is just karma.

    Ahh, that feels good.
    12AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:06
    The real question is the cause.
    He looks like he's lost his focus.
    Is it the injury, is it mental, or both?
    It's just not clear what's behind it.
    38AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:15
    Re: #12
    Ever since he got pushed too hard by 'Rushing' and cranked it up to throw 160 km/h (99 mph),
    nothing's gone right for him.

    That was the turning point.
    13AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:06
    This really makes you appreciate how great Ichiro was — 10 straight years of 200+ hits in the majors starting at age 27.
    Ichiro never had slumps or injuries.
    72AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:20
    Re: #13
    Ohtani's amazing too, but I think Ichiro is the greatest Japanese player active in the 21st century
    Seven straight batting titles plus Gold Gloves in Japan, then 10 straight years of 200 hits plus Gold Gloves starting from his rookie year in the US — and on top of that, Rookie of the Year, batting title, stolen base title, and Silver Slugger in his rookie season
    15AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:07
    He should take a bit of a break.
    He looks exhausted.
    17AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:08
    "Just hurry up and be done already"


    Surprisingly, a lot of Japanese fans feel this way.
    They're just not that into baseball.
    19AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:08
    Judge and Trout take rest days all the time, but one month of a slump and Ohtani gets talked about like this? That's basically discrimination.
    20AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:08
    I'm an Ohtani fan, but
    something's really been off with him lately
    I think it'd be fine for him to take a break
    22AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:09
    He's out of the starting lineup today
    He should rest for a while
    23AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:09
    It's just a temporary slump
    He's still the top of the top among Japanese athletes, and there's no athlete better than Ohtani in any sport, period
    25AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:11
    Lol he's done way too fast
    Guess he wasn't that great a player after all
    28AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:12
    8 wins and 30 home runs, and that's 'finished'?
    34AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:13
    Re: #28
    It'd be one thing if he'd been terrible in the first half and put up numbers like that in the second half, but it's the other way around
    39AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:15
    Re: #28
    These numbers shouldn't even be possible to begin with — fans watching have just gotten way too spoiled
    33AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:13
    Sadly, let's just call it here
    since there's no end to this otherwise
    46AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:16
    Re: #33
    Garandoo~ (a nonsense catchphrase from an old Japanese comedy bit, basically a jokey non-answer)
    57AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:18
    Some guys get married and work even harder, others get married and start putting family ahead of work
    Ohtani seems like totally the latter type
    85AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:23
    Re: #57
    Well, money's not exactly a worry for him, so that's probably fine
    It'd be worse if he pushed himself and wrecked his knee badly enough to mess up his everyday life down the road
    63AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:18
    For some reason there's no thread for it, but is Murakami hitless again today?
    77AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:21
    Re: #63
    If he signs a contract now, teams are gonna lowball him for sure
    he's been a mess lately
    70AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:20
    Up until around June the die-hards were hyped, saying he'd win both MVP and the Cy Young this year, but it's looking like this'll be the season his two-way career ends
    90AnonymousSep 4, 2026 07:24
    Re: #70
    Getting pushed too hard by 'Rushing' and cranking it up to throw 160 km/h (99 mph)
    is looking like it was the last we'll see of unicorn Ohtani

    Background and key points of the debate

    Ohtani is in the middle of an unusual season, trying to balance his return from injury as a pitcher with continuing as a two-way player. In the September 2 game against the Cardinals, he went 0-for-4 with four strikeouts, and the team lost in extra innings. Tokyo Sports reports that US media reaction has taken on a “he’s completely finished” tone. On the thread, opinions split between those defending his 8 wins and 30 home runs as a solid result for his first year back on the mound, and those who took issue with the poor sequencing — a strong first half followed by a second-half collapse. As for the cause of the slump, whether it’s the injury or a change in his personal life, posters on the thread have no way to directly confirm his condition, so it’s worth noting that this remains speculation either way. Given that other star players like Judge and Trout also take rest days regularly, the somewhat harsher scrutiny directed at Ohtani likely reflects the sheer size of his contract and the unusually high expectations tied to his status as a two-way player.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread “[Dodgers] ‘He’s completely finished,’ fans say about Shohei Ohtani — Prolonged slump and injuries cast a shadow over his two-way future, per US reports.”

  • Number_i Impresses at Dodgers First Pitch, But Some Fans’ ‘Autograph Requests’ Draw Criticism

    On September 1 (September 2 Japan time), Number_i — made up of Hirano Sho, Jinguji Yuta, and Kishi Yuta — appeared for the ceremonial first pitch before the Dodgers-Cardinals game at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles. Kishi Yuta was the one who threw, and his confident pitch became a hot topic. However, on a 5channel Geinou/Sports News+ thread, attention shifted away from the first pitch itself and toward claims that some fans nearby had asked for autographs — behavior criticized as “embarrassing” — sparking debate over the group’s name recognition on the ground and the apparent absence of any staff.

    9/3/2026

    At Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, the Dodgers faced the Cardinals on September 1 (September 2 Japan time). Appearing for the ceremonial first pitch was the music group Number_i, consisting of Hirano Sho, Jinguji Yuta, and Kishi Yuta. They pulled off an impressive pitch — but behind the scenes, criticism has been pouring in over the behavior of some fans.

    Number_i handled their big role admirably

    Source: jprime.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:13
    Same as with Riku/Ryu (Olympic pair skaters Riku Miura & Ryuichi Kihara) — how much Japan money is Dodgers trying to milk here?
    Riku/Ryu are at least gold medalists, so fine, but these guys are just washed-up ex-Johnny's idols nobody in the world's ever heard of — Americans don't know them one bit and couldn't care less.
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:16
    Re: #3
    Most people watching MLB broadcasts are Japanese, you know?
    43AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:44
    Re: #3
    Korean stars have done the first pitch too, both last year and this year, so maybe look into who else has done it before judging.
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
    A lot of people are throwing around 'attention-seeking' without really getting what it means.
    If anything, it's the three guys who'll end up unknown even after trying to break into America, or the people posting photos of the embarrassing middle-aged women demanding autographs, who are the real attention-seekers.
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:15
    The fact that guys like these even got to throw a first pitch over there is embarrassing enough on its own.
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:17
    Re: #1
    Good for them, getting all that screaming and cheering
    That probably saved face for them.
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:17
    Impressive that he could just walk up to the mound and throw without a hint of hesitation.
    25AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:28
    Japanese fans?
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
    Re: #25
    Are there even any non-Japanese fans?
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
    Re: #10
    Even as a Japanese fan, I'm getting sick of the Dodgers lately.
    30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:32
    Johnny's fanatics are all embarrassing anyway, aren't they.
    32AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    Didn't Miyasako do a first pitch at a Dodgers game before too? Is this the same kind of slot?
    33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:36
    Even as former King & Prince members, they can't get a photo with someone at Ohtani's level?
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:38
    Don't need this, honestly — nobody even knows who Kishi is.
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:39
    When these guys came out, the crowd over there was probably just staring blankly like 'who's that?'
    38AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:41
    Re: #35
    It probably just registers as 'must be popular somewhere in Asia' and that's the end of it.
    Do you go blank every single time some foreign celebrity you've never heard of shows up for an event in Japan?
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:41
    Re: #38
    That IS the blank stare.
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:46
    Re: #38
    If you went to watch your favorite sport and some foreign celebrity you'd never heard of showed up trailing a fan crowd, of course you'd go blank.
    36AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:40
    Hirano Sho was the only one acting completely normal — you can really tell his skill as an idol is on another level.
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:41
    Amazing that grandma can even sit through that thumping rap.
    41AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:43
    Americans: "Who even is this guy…"

    Sasaki Roki: "Who even is this guy…"
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:51
    Number_i is the most famous Japanese artist in the world right now, after all.
    75AnonymousSep 3, 2026 20:53
    Re: #47
    I don't know about Japanese artists, but honestly K-pop is the one that's huge in the West, Latin America, etc.
    61AnonymousSep 3, 2026 20:39
    He threw a better pitch than I expected.
    68AnonymousSep 3, 2026 20:45
    Re: #61
    Tons of different video angles got posted, but the one filmed from behind the catcher was definitely the clearest (for showing it really was a good pitch).
    69AnonymousSep 3, 2026 20:46
    The staff were just incompetent, lol. I mean, if you didn't want the idols getting mobbed for autographs,
    you should've just seated them somewhere regular fans couldn't reach, lol
    And if someone does ask for a signature, just throw in a bit of fan service —
    they were brought in as the drawcard for the first pitch anyway.
    72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 20:48
    Re: #69
    That's the thing, there didn't seem to be any staff around at all
    I figured it'd normally be like the 'Ohtani + personal interpreter' setup
    but even during the photos and the pitch itself, nobody like that was visible.
    77AnonymousSep 3, 2026 21:07
    Wait, you guys don't know 'Unconfirmed Territory'?
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 21:15
    Re: #77
    That one's really good, right?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Number_i is a group formed in 2024 by Hirano Sho, Jinguji Yuta, and Kishi Yuta after the three left the former Johnny’s (now STARTO ENTERTAINMENT) agency in 2023, and this ceremonial first pitch for the Dodgers marked an unusual booking for them. On the thread, opinion split between those figuring “the local crowd must have had no idea who they were” and those arguing “a lot of MLB broadcast viewers are Japanese, so this makes sense as a Japan-facing promotion.” Some also pointed out that Korean artists have thrown first pitches before, meaning Number_i wasn’t a one-off choice in that respect — background not covered in the original article but worth keeping in mind. As for the autograph-request controversy, there were accounts that no staff or interpreter-like companions were visible with the group, raising a separate question about whether this came down to a planning failure on the organizers’ part.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Hirano Sho and Number_i throw first pitch at Dodger Stadium] Kishi Yuta’s pitch is a big hit, but some fans’ ‘autograph requests’ spark backlash as ’embarrassing’ [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.

  • Shohei Ohtani Goes Hitless Over Worst 60-At-Bat Stretch Since Joining Dodgers, Strikes Out 4 Straight as Team Drops Second Straight Game

    Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani batted leadoff as DH against the Cardinals on September 2 (local time) and went 0-for-4 with 4 strikeouts and 2 walks/hit-by-pitches. The team also blew a lead and lost 8-6 in extra innings, dropping its second straight game. Ohtani is now homerless over more than 60 plate appearances — his worst stretch since joining the Dodgers. On the 5ch Geisoku+ (entertainment/sports news) board, worried posts like “they should sit him” and “maybe the two-way workload is catching up with him” appeared alongside harsher takes like “he’s the one to blame” and “all he does is strike out, I’m losing interest in watching,” with many comments also comparing his slump to that of other Japanese players like Munetaka Murakami.

    [MLB] Cardinals 8-6 Dodgers (Sept. 3 Japan time, Los Angeles)

    Dodgers’ Shohei Ohtani started at home against the Cardinals on the 2nd (the 3rd in Japan time), batting leadoff as DH.

    He went 0-for-4 with 4 strikeouts and 2 walks/HBPs. The team lost in extra innings, its second straight defeat.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:30
    Playing every game banged up like that — you gotta respect the effort
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:34
    Re: #6
    He's the one dragging the team down lol (戦犯, lit. "war criminal" — forum slang for whoever's to blame for the loss)
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:31
    He had a long hot streak, so I guess it makes sense the decline is just as fast
    26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:33
    Re: #14
    The Angels patiently developed him… if it ends like this, his peak sure was short
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:32
    Walk
    Hit by pitch ← rare show of annoyance at the opposing pitcher
    Strikeout
    Strikeout
    Strikeout
    Strikeout

    Ohtani hit by pitch for 2nd straight game, rare display of displeasure — two pitches in a row sail inside, he shakes his head walking to first, huge boos at home
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e69baf1065ad65db89568027e99f80acaf6c37ad
    74AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:39
    Re: #16
    Even his teammates are annoyed at the guy who struck out 4 times
    101AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:41
    Re: #16
    This is brutal lmaooooooo
    107AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:42
    Re: #16
    Everyone cut him slack back when he was doing the two-way thing, so he should just deal with it now
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:33
    Just rest and let that leg heal already
    133AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:45
    Re: #24
    He stubbornly kept playing through it and now he's picked up some weird habit in his swing…
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:36
    Today he looked like old man Ichiro during his Miami days
    At this point just making contact is impressive
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:38
    Re: #46
    That's basically Ichiro in his 40s at that point
    47AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:36
    What's the Japanese-baseball-obsessive crowd (焼き豚 — slang for fans overly fixated on Japanese players) gonna do once this guy's gone? There's nobody left
    163AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:50
    Re: #47
    There's Judge. Though 90% of the people worldwide who know who Judge is are Japanese, 10% are Americans, and the rest is rounding error
    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:37
    He's baseball-obsessed

    Doesn't know how to rest lol
    66AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:38
    Re: #53
    Isn't that just recklessness? He won't even stop stealing bases
    62AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:38
    Sure, Ohtani being in a slump is true enough
    But the team scored 6 runs today — it's the reliever who gave up 4 runs in 2 innings who really lost this one
    99AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:41
    Re: #62
    Yamamoto was getting torched today just like Imanaga, so can't really blame him for that
    95AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:41
    Ohtani absolutely refuses to hit whenever Yamamoto's pitching lol


    Does he have some kind of grudge against Yamamoto?
    104AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:41
    Re: #95
    He doesn't like it when a fellow Japanese player gets more spotlight than him
    97AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:41
    A three-peat is looking shaky
    Even with the pitching solid, the lineup's just off compared to last year
    116AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:43
    Re: #97
    Forget a three-peat
    The Dodgers are gonna get bounced early in the playoffs at this rate
    105AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:42
    Think he can still win MVP?
    114AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:43
    Re: #105
    No chance now. The way he's hitting, there's nothing pointing to a dramatic turnaround, and there are already reports he's given up on a pitching comeback too
    121AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:44
    Re: #105
    He might still grab the PCA though
    122AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:45
    Re: #105
    If he comes back to pitch in the last month, wins like 3 games, and hits another 10 homers, he could probably flip it and take the PCA
    120AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:44
    Do you people even get how much Ohtani has done for baseball?
    He single-handedly boosted baseball's popularity — in Japan he turned the WBC into a bigger deal than the World Cup.
    Don't go running your mouth about the guy who's done more for Japan than anyone just because he's in a bit of a slump.
    147AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:47
    Re: #120
    By that logic Shigeo Nagashima's contributions were way bigger
    123AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:45
    Murakami's rough too

    • As of 8/1: .244 avg, .929 OPS
    • As of 9/1: .215 avg, .847 OPS
    • Hitless in 4 straight games (though with 6 walks)
    • No home runs in 13 games
    • Last 13 games: .085 avg, 0 HR, 1 RBI, .378 OPS
    154AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:48
    Re: #123
    The diehard Murakami stans (谷信 — forum slang for his most devoted fans) were out defending their guy, saying an OPS over .800 is elite so quit complaining
    143AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:47
    Guess he's turning into another one of those guys who has a few great years, signs the big contract, and immediately starts declining — a real "death row" case (forum slang for a big-money signing that turns into a disaster)
    182AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:52
    Re: #143
    Ohtani's been focused on pitching this year and built up his upper body for it
    He's pouring so much energy and stamina into pitching that his hitting's completely fallen apart, and on top of that he keeps pitching without fully recovering, which is causing injuries
    Forget two-way — right now he can't even do one thing well
    The Dodgers have plenty of pitching depth, so I think a lot of people just want him to nail his job as DH since the pitching's fine
    But Ohtani doesn't seem satisfied with that. Since he's a star, nobody around him can push back hard, so everyone's tiptoeing around him like he's made of glass
    146AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:47
    His wrist looked like it was bothering him
    Can't battle at the plate like that
    156AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:48
    Re: #146
    Isn't it his elbow?
    His swing looks like he's babying his arm
    157AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:48
    What happens if he's actually washed up before the contract's even done?
    They gonna use him for mop-up duty or something?
    189AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:53
    Re: #157
    What about Tetsuto Yamada?
    172AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:51
    I've basically stopped watching the broadcasts since Ohtani's been struggling. Tuned in after a while and it was nothing but strikeouts.
    191AnonymousSep 3, 2026 14:53
    Re: #172
    I still watch, but now I catch myself praying his at-bat doesn't come up in scoring chances
    Since he's gonna strike out for sure, I just don't want to see it

    Background and Talking Points

    This season Ohtani has kept playing as a hitter while also working toward a return to the mound, and neither he nor the team has clearly explained how the two-way workload might be affecting his focus and stamina. The word “戦犯” that keeps coming up in the thread — roughly “the guy to blame” — is a common exaggeration on 5ch and shouldn’t necessarily be read as literal criticism. At the same time, other Japanese players’ slumps, Munetaka Murakami’s among them, are being brought up too, suggesting posters see this less as an attack on one player and more as general late-season fatigue. It’s also worth noting that no specific cause for the slump (elbow, wrist, or a broken swing) has been officially confirmed by the team, so everything in the thread remains speculation.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] Ohtani struggling, worst stretch since joining team — no HR in 60 at-bats (12 games), hitless with 4 straight strikeouts… Dodgers drop 2 straight after blown lead.”

  • “Nippon-Ham, Our Good Customer” Caption Sparks Backlash — TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting Apologizes

    On September 2, TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting posted an apology on its official website after airing a caption during the previous day’s broadcast of the Nippon-Ham vs. SoftBank game that lacked consideration for the opposing team. On 5ch, word spread that the caption in question read “Nippon-Ham, our good customer” — a jab implying SoftBank has an easy time beating them — and since the actual head-to-head record stood at 15 wins to 5 losses in SoftBank’s favor, opinions split between those saying “it’s just stating a fact” and those saying “even if it’s true, there are things you shouldn’t say in an official broadcast caption.”

    Pro Baseball Broadcast Caption “Lacked Consideration” for Opposing Team — TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting Apologizes: “We sincerely apologize for any discomfort caused”

    On the 2nd, TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting apologized after airing, on the 1st, a caption during its broadcast of the professional baseball game “TeleQ Super! Stadium: Nippon-Ham vs. SoftBank” that lacked consideration for the opposing team.

    An apology statement was posted on the top page of the official website.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:34
    Baseball ("yakyuu") really does have this problem, huh
    like those fight songs that are basically borderline slander against the other side
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:35
    Don't worry, nobody's even watching baseball anyway
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:38
    11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:39
    They couldn't even beat their so-called "good customer" — lmao
    12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:39
    What did it actually say?
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:42
    Re: #12
    I think it said "Nippon-Ham, our good customer"
    It caused a bit of a stir on social media lol
    38AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:48
    Re: #19 Re: #20
    This isn't about "consideration," it's just plain stupid
    13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:40
    When it comes to showing consideration for the opposing team, people get real strict
    but a lack of consideration toward your own guys gets a pass
    like with Shiino, for instance
    15AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:41
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:42
    Re: #15
    Ah
    well, I guess apologizing does make sense then
    58AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:57
    Re: #15
    well, anything that puts down the other team is a no-go
    16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:41
    SoftBank also outranks Nippon-Ham as a company, so that's part of it too
    17AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:42
    My house is in Fukuoka Prefecture and TVQ still doesn't come in
    69AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:03
    Re: #17
    Do you live on some remote island or something?
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:44
    If it's just a local Kyushu broadcast, seems like it shouldn't be a problem lol
    34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:47
    Re: #24
    Back in the day, on what was supposed to be a neutral SoftBank-home radio broadcast, a commentator said Koyano looked like "a rotten mikan (orange)" and it blew up into a huge controversy.
    They ended up apologizing on-air later.
    31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:47
    Well, 15 wins to 5 losses does make "good customer" technically accurate lol
    40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:49
    Re: #31
    Pro baseball is entertainment.
    It's not like anyone's trying to start an actual war.
    37AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:48
    "Lacked consideration" makes it sound like "good customer" is basically confirmed as fact lol
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:50
    Re: #37
    Exactly.
    Even if it's true, there are things you should and shouldn't say.
    Is that really so hard to understand?
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:49
    Re: #34
    Yeah, that one's definitely crossing the line lol

    but calling them a "good customer" on a local broadcast
    is honestly fine
    49AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:50
    Re: #44
    If they'd said "Fighters" instead it would've been less bad
    putting the Nippon-Ham company name front and center is what gets you in trouble
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:52
    Re: #49
    The "correct" phrasing would be "We are always deeply grateful for Nippon-Ham's continued patronage" lol
    53AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:53
    Re: #50
    Though honestly, Orix was just really good at that placard-gag routine of theirs.
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:53
    No need for "consideration" at all
    it's just a fact
    54AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:54
    Re: #52
    Yes there is.
    That's just the times we live in now.
    Remember that singer who vanished after saying a woman's "amniotic fluid rots" at 35?
    55AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:55
    They play the same opponent over and over like crazy anyway
    stirring up a pro-wrestling-style rivalry would honestly get people more interested
    they should lean into it
    60AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:59
    Re: #55
    The problem is the fans hate each other way more than "just a joke" level.
    It's like the Giants vs. Tigers rivalry in the Central League.
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:01
    "Good customer," huh
    it really is embarrassing for a broadcaster to say that

    at this rate they'll probably start policing words like "hated rival" too before long
    70AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:04
    Re: #64
    "Drop dead" has already been officially designated an insulting term.
    "Kutabare Nostradamus" (drop dead, Nostradamus — a classic parody film title) can't even air on terrestrial TV anymore.
    74AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:05
    With Giants vs. Tigers games
    maybe because there are plenty of Tigers fans in Kanto and Giants fans in Kansai, broadcasters are careful
    they call it "the traditional rivalry match" and don't take sides
    90AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:11
    Re: #74
    Both fan bases keep watch on each other, so if there's any weird provocation, one side or the other
    will come down on the TV station in force.
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:06
    Isn't TVQ basically a Hawks-biased broadcast made for Hawks fans anyway?
    Have we really reached an era where even this gets complaints?
    91AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:11
    Re: #80
    Like in other sports, in Japan-vs-foreign-country matches — even though cheering for Japan is a given — they don't go around mocking the opponent.
    92AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:11
    Re: #80
    Probably a complaint came in from Nippon-Ham itself — they're a sponsor tied to the TV Tokyo network group connected to the parent company, right?
    97AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:13
    Re: #80
    It's one thing for a commentator to say it out loud, but putting it in a caption is bad.
    If it were Tigers fans, forget "consideration" — they'd storm in purely because it pissed them off.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The phrase “good customer” drew criticism because, as the Nippon-Ham vs. SoftBank head-to-head record shows, it implies SoftBank has the upper hand over an easy opponent — and what made it worse wasn’t just an offhand commentary remark but the fact that it appeared as a fixed on-screen “caption.” On the thread, those defending it with “if it’s true, there’s no problem” clashed with those countering “even if it’s true, there are things you should and shouldn’t say,” with some pointing out that spoken commentary and an official on-screen caption deserve different standards. Commenters also brought up past cases where a commentator’s remarks about an opposing team sparked backlash and led to an apology, suggesting that references to opposing teams have repeatedly been a recurring problem for broadcasters. Worth noting too: TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting is SoftBank’s local home-market station, and this was framed as a Kyushu-local broadcast.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[TV] Pro Baseball Broadcast Caption “Lacked Consideration” for Opposing Team — TVQ Kyushu Broadcasting Apologizes: “We sincerely apologize for any discomfort caused”.”

  • Shohei Ohtani May Abandon Pitching Comeback — Manager’s Comments Spark Alarm on 5ch: ‘Only 10 Starts in 3 Years’

    Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said on September 2 that resting Shohei Ohtani from pitching for the rest of the season is “one of the options,” raising the possibility that Ohtani could abandon his pitching comeback altogether. Despite a stellar 1.79 ERA, 8-2 record, and 0.95 WHIP this season, there’s no clear timeline for him to resume throwing. On 5ch, users debated whether his workload justifies a contract reportedly worth around ¥100 billion (roughly $680 million), and questioned the wisdom of using him in a way that keeps leading to injuries.

    Ohtani’s Pitching Comeback May Be Off the Table — Manager Calls It “One of the Options” as Return Timeline Stays Unclear

    Dodgers manager Dave Roberts spoke to reporters on September 2 (September 3 JST) before a home game against the Cardinals. Asked about pitcher Shohei Ohtani, he said resting him from pitching for the rest of the season was “one of the options.” With the team’s support, Ohtani had been working toward a return to the mound this season, but the possibility that he may give up the pitching comeback entirely has now emerged.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:35
    He got a $680 million deal on the promise of being a two-way player, and he's only pitched in like 10 games total over 3 years — that's genuinely insane lol
    15AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:36
    Re: #3
    That part is basically fraud at this point
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:35
    Source: the manager himself, lol
    Yeah, this is done
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:35
    Ah, he's cooked
    Farewell, see you next year
    Not sure there'll even be a next year though
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:36
    Wish he'd pitch enough innings to at least qualify for the ERA rankings
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:43
    Re: #7
    He'd need to throw a complete game every single day to hit that
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:36
    Just lift weights and hit more homers instead then
    18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:38
    At this rate, a $680M contract for a part-time DH is a terrifyingly bad deal lol
    24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:38
    Re: #18
    Two World Series titles already paid that $680M off
    28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:40
    Re: #24
    If winning just one World Series nets you $680M in value, the peak-era Yankees must've made like a trillion then? 😅
    21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:38
    *Note: he's a position player
    25AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:39
    Re: #21
    Not a position player — a hitter. Can't play defense, so he doesn't count as a position player.
    26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:39
    ERA 1.79
    Innings Pitched 85.2
    Record 8-2
    Strikeouts 95
    K/9 9.98
    Walks 26
    K/BB 3.65
    WHIP 0.95
    Opp. Batting Avg .180
    Quality Starts/% 12 / 85.7%

    It hasn't been making news so I'd been ignoring it, but this is straight-up monster-level stuff
    90AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:08
    Re: #26
    An 8-12 record from a guy who stays healthy and holds down a rotation spot all year gets more respect than this
    That kind of peak brilliance means nothing for the team if it doesn't last
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:41
    Why did he suddenly turn into a has-been like this?
    44AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:44
    Re: #35
    Probably because he doesn't listen to anyone
    Back in his prime, Ohtani used to brag, 'I don't really listen to the coaches. I don't need advice either — I do things my own way.' But now that he's older and declining, it's completely come back to bite him.
    50AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:48
    Re: #35
    His physical talent was off the charts, but maybe his ability to heal was just average?
    77AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:57
    Re: #35
    Even back in his Fighters days (Japan's Nippon-Ham Fighters, his NPB team)
    he'd push past his limits even while hurt,
    which led to further injuries — [manager] Kuriyama used to scold him for it
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:49
    When you think Fujinami's about to lose his spot in NPB entirely, you realize he's actually done pretty well for himself
    78AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:58
    Re: #52
    Wasn't Fujinami actually the better pitcher in the majors?
    68AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:54
    Guess the second Tommy John surgery was a bust
    If he can only hold up for 80-90 innings, they might as well fully convert him to an outfielder at this point
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:00
    Re: #68
    It's not his elbow, it's his knee
    He's been sprinting full speed despite the injury
    and doing bullpen sessions on his own, making it worse
    76AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:57
    Ohtani throws nasty stuff and racks up strikeouts, but he doesn't really have that 'unquestioned ace' aura, does he
    86AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:05
    Re: #76
    Guys who get hurt this often can't become an unquestioned ace
    87AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:06
    If he gets knee surgery, will it actually fix it? For the sake of baseball history, I really hope they can somehow get him healthy 😤🤚
    91AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:08
    Re: #87
    Once a knee starts hurting and you keep moving on it, it stops healing properly — so it's probably hopeless now
    94AnonymousSep 3, 2026 10:11
    Re: #87
    A trashed knee like that is a lost cause

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    What’s actually come up so far is only the “possibility” of giving up the comeback — at this stage it’s just the manager calling it one of the options in an interview, not an official announcement that Ohtani is done for the year. Ohtani underwent his second elbow surgery in 2023, and this season he had been gradually working his way back to pitching with the team’s support, aiming to keep up his two-way role as both hitter and pitcher. Opinions in the thread split between those who value the impact of his pitching when he’s healthy, regardless of how injury-prone he is, and those who feel it doesn’t count for much unless he can pitch reliably all season. Some pointed to the size of his contract as clashing with how little he’s pitched, but the deal also reflects his value as a hitter, so judging it purely on pitching output oversimplifies things.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Talk Emerges That Pitcher Shohei Ohtani May Be Done for the Season шшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшшш.”

  • MLB Players Fiercely Oppose Salary Cap — 5ch: “The Union’s Got Its Act Together, That’s Healthy”

    In an anonymous survey of more than 20 active major leaguers conducted by ESPN, players fired back hard against collective bargaining agreement (CBA) negotiations and the proposed salary cap, with some going as far as “I won’t play if it’s introduced.” Players reportedly fear that even proposals that look favorable at first would see their share whittled down with each round of renegotiation, turning the cap into a tool for owners to control payroll. Reports have also surfaced of a possible delayed 2027 Opening Day due to a lockout. On 5ch, some praised the union as “solid and healthy,” while the discussion expanded into debates over revenue-sharing and MLB’s declining viewership.

    Sports Nippon [Sep 3, 2026, 07:12 JST]

    The U.S. sports network ESPN’s digital edition reported on the 2nd (3rd JST) the results of an anonymous survey of more than 20 active major leaguers on collective bargaining agreement (CBA) negotiations, the salary cap, and the possibility of a 2027 lockout.

    On the salary cap, players fired back with hardline opposition — “zero chance,” “I won’t play if it’s introduced,” and more. Players are wary that even if an initial proposal looks favorable, subsequent renegotiations would gradually shrink their share of revenue, turning it into a tool for owners to control payroll costs. Some said that even if their own earnings would go up, they wouldn’t accept it if it hurt players as a whole.

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:36
    Sucks for fans if the season gets delayed, but it's genuinely great to see a union that's this solid and healthy.
    4AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:38
    It's gotten out of hand — true of American sports business across the board. Even Nootbaar, who probably wouldn't be much use if he came over to Japan, easily out-earns Japan's highest-paid player.
    14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:49
    Re: #4
    Japanese baseball's revenue is chump change by comparison — MLB's a whole different animal.
    5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:40
    Making that much money is just wrong. They should be operating within broadcast rights, ticket sales, and sponsorship revenue — the players' union relies way too much on rich owners.
    77AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:54
    Re: #5
    The revenue's so massive that of course labor is going to demand more of it back. Even now, players probably aren't even getting half of total revenue.
    6AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:41
    It's a rule that doesn't quite add up — a cap makes the rich teams hold back, while the poor teams still have to pay up, grinding everyone down over time.
    8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:44
    Re: #6
    So you mean there's a penalty if you go under the salary floor?
    27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:57
    Re: #6
    They take local broadcast rights money from the rich teams and redistribute it to the poor ones, so every team can easily afford the floor amount. Honestly, the teams claiming to be "broke" are just letting the money vanish into the owner's pocket — most of them could already afford to pay more.
    7AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:42
    Guerrero, Ohtani, Raleigh too — feels like a lot of players are worn down by all this drama and it's showing in their numbers this season.
    9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:47
    Not totally following this, but bottom line: the Dodgers are the bad guys here, right?
    29AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:58
    Re: #9
    Pretty much — a lot of teams are getting caught in the crossfire because of the Dodgers.
    10AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:48
    And what about the minor leagues in all this?
    19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 07:53
    Apparently Americans don't even really watch baseball anymore these days.
    Might as well just end it.

    ↓Nikkei article below
    Dodgers games:
    Japanese viewers >>>> American viewers

    https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQODH288DU0Y5A820C2000000/

    > Regular-season Dodgers games draw only a few hundred thousand viewers.
    > In other words, people living in the U.S. have far fewer chances to see Ohtani play than viewers in Japan do.
    42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:09
    Re: #19
    Then how can they even afford to pay salaries like that?
    32AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:01
    Re: #27
    Revenue-sharing payouts currently come out of the existing "luxury tax."
    The worry is that under a salary cap, those payouts would end up smaller than what the current luxury tax provides.
    94AnonymousSep 3, 2026 09:07
    Re: #32
    Nope, that's not it lol
    Revenue sharing is funded mainly by national broadcast rights money and sales from MLB.tv, which the league runs directly — the luxury tax is just added on top, it's not the main source.
    The new idea is to grow the pool further by also pulling in the huge local broadcast rights money that teams like the Dodgers and Yankees have.
    35AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:03
    It's weird — almost unheard of — to see a fight over "rich people, stop spending your money."
    39AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:08
    Re: #35
    In a closed league, you can't let a huge talent/wealth gap develop between teams — that's the whole point.
    38AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:06
    Making a rule that literally says "don't pay your players" is pretty abnormal — nobody actually benefits from that.
    46AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:12
    Re: #38
    The NFL and NBA both have salary caps too.
    The NFL's is the strictest.
    What MLB is trying to bring in is actually on the looser end.
    From a sports-business standpoint, having both a salary cap and a salary floor is necessary.
    52AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:18
    Re: #42
    The New York Times exposed that MLB's huge salaries are basically funded by cable money from people who don't even watch baseball — totally out of line with the sport's actual popularity.
    66AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:33
    Re: #52
    This right here.

    Key points from the New York Times MLB article:



    ① The average baseball viewer is 57 years old. Factor in radio listeners and it gets even scarier.
    ② The trick behind the huge salaries: cable subscribers are effectively forced to pay for baseball whether they like it or not.
    ③ MLB pockets that massive cable money from people who don't even watch the sport — it doesn't reflect real popularity.
    ④ On top of that, once the younger generation of cord-cutters takes over, MLB's revenue model collapses.
    ⑤ The average American 10-year-old thinks Jorge Soler, the 2021 World Series MVP, is a local city councilman.
    ⑥ Little League registrations have been cut in half over 15 years in parts of the U.S.
    ⑦ There you have it — baseball's decline, plain as day. Nationalizing it might be the only way to avoid extinction.
    70AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:40
    Re: #66
    Exactly this. That last punchline — the irony — got a laugh out of me.
    55AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:21
    Are there even any players left in the majors who play because they love baseball?
    It's all just for the money, right?
    Maybe only the Japanese guys still play for love of the game.
    64AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:30
    Re: #55
    Isn't MLB infield defense basically built on guys practicing it like it's just for fun?
    72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:46
    It's not like everyone in Japan watches MLB either, but NHK still buys the broadcast rights, right?
    74AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:48
    Re: #72
    Ah, so you're the one paying Ohtani's salary.
    79AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:55
    Re: #72
    That's because the ratings are good among the "elite class" (a sarcastic term for privileged/upper-crust citizens), compared to ordinary people.
    75AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:48
    Crappy article — at least explain what a salary cap even is.
    80AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:56
    Re: #75
    Whether it's a hard cap or soft cap and the exact terms vary by league, but honestly, a sports fan who doesn't know what a salary cap even is is pretty rare these days lol
    83AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:58
    Re: #75
    What a salary cap system is:

    In a professional sports league, it's a mechanism that limits the total amount each team can pay out in player salaries.

    Main goals and effects:

    Competitive balance: Prevents big-market teams or teams with wealthy parent companies from monopolizing star players, creating a fair environment where every team has a shot at winning.

    Financial health: Prevents teams from pouring unlimited money into player salaries and running into financial trouble, boosting the sustainability of the league as a whole.
    82AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:58
    Re: #80
    Hardly any Japanese people know what that is lol
    Only sports-watching nerds know that one.
    84AnonymousSep 3, 2026 08:59
    Re: #82
    Don't go acting like your own ignorance isn't the issue here lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    MLB has never had a strict payroll cap like the NFL or NBA. Instead, it has softened competitive imbalance through a “luxury tax” on teams that exceed a set payroll threshold, plus a revenue-sharing system funded by broadcast rights and other income. The current CBA runs through the end of the 2026 season, and there’s precedent for worry here: the 2021-22 offseason lockout ran 99 days and delayed Opening Day, so this report of a possible 2027 delay is being read as a sign of history repeating. In the thread, opinions split over whether revenue sharing is funded by the luxury tax or by local broadcast rights money, and over whether the players’ push for a bigger share or the wariness toward a system that raises the burden on big-spending teams has more merit. It’s worth noting this ESPN survey was anonymous with a limited sample of just over 20 respondents, so it shouldn’t be read as representing the consensus of all players. Separately, the “decline of baseball” argument attributed to the New York Times runs on a different track from the core salary cap debate, with broader skepticism about MLB’s business model itself surfacing alongside it in the thread.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Sokuhou+) thread “[Baseball] MLB players fiercely oppose salary cap — “Won’t play if introduced,” 2027 Opening Day delay also predicted.”