Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Hulu Exclusively Streams Juice=Juice’s Korean Training Camp Show as They Finalize New Single’s Choreography

    Episode 1 of “Juice=Juice Summer Camp in Korea,” a Hulu-exclusive series following popular Hello! Project group Juice=Juice’s training camp in Korea, began streaming on October 8, 2026 at 18:00. The show follows the members as they travel to Korea to finish choreography for their new single “Karei naru Revenger” (“Glorious Revenger”), mixing dance lessons with variety-style location segments. On the Hello! Project board of 5ch, the thread buzzed with two main topics: finally getting to check their guesses against the earlier “guess the member from the back-view silhouette” teaser posts, and the practical question of when to subscribe, since the November 25 Pia Arena concert is also set to stream on Hulu.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:01
    Juice=Juice Summer Camp in Korea
    #Hulu Exclusive Streaming Confirmed!
    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:02
    【Hulu】Streaming Hello! Project content one after another💫

    @hulu_hello
    /
    Juice=Juice Summer Camp in Korea
    #Hulu Exclusive Streaming Confirmed!

    Episode 1 streaming starts today at 18:00✈
    \

    Off to Korea to complete the choreography for new single "Karei naru Revenger"🇰🇷

    Bringing you a packed summer camp full of dance lessons and variety-style location shoots☀

    @JuiceJuice_uf

    @hulu_japan


    #JuicesSummerCamp
    1:00 PM · Oct 8, 2026
    https://x.com/hulu_hello/status/2108044721092485211
    tps://pbs.twimg.com/media/HT6XXFcagAEKvK4.jpg:orig
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:03
    Turns out I forgot to cancel my subscription, so I can actually watch this.
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:03
    tps://pbs.twimg.com/media/HT6XL5XbUAEbLpJ.jpg:orig#.jpg
    tps://pbs.twimg.com/media/HT6XXFcagAEKvK4.jpg:orig#.jpg
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:06
    Risachi's got long legs.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:06
    Someone posted that they could only tell who 'Mesa' was — but isn't that actually Risachi?
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:06
    Time to check our guesses.
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:07
    Arisawa Chichika-chan is way too gorgeous.
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:08
    Ishiyama is insane (in a good way).
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:11
    Dude's reacting on pure reflex lol ("spinal reflex" = knee-jerk reaction).
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:11
    I wonder if a live-watch thread will pop up today or over the weekend.
    If one goes up, I'll time my viewing to join in.
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:13
    Re: #31
    ■ Juice=Juice ■ Hulu Unlimited Streaming 『Juice=Juice Summer Camp in Korea Episode1』 ■ Starts 18:00 ■ 1
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791432398/
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:12
    Koeda is the best.
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:12
    These guys are really selling, huh.
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:12
    Went to Caribbean Bay, then went to eat samgyeopsal in Euljiro, and there was this idol group called Juice=Juice there — I thought they were Equal Love (=LOVE) and even told the staff that, but it turned out to actually be Juice=Juice lol
    10:45 PM · Aug 25, 2026
    36AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:13
    【Hulu】Streaming Hello! Project content one after another💫

    @hulu_hello
    🍹✈☀
    Coming soon………..
    7:00 PM · Oct 7, 2026
    https://x.com/hulu_hello/status/2107772931132789165
    tps://pbs.twimg.com/media/HT6XL5XbUAEbLpJ.jpg:orig

    【Hulu】Streaming Hello! Project content one after another💫

    @hulu_hello
    Thank you so much for all your guesses🫶

    From left to right:
    Hayashi Nina, Ishiyama Sakura, Ebata Kisaki, Kudo Yua, Arisawa Ichika, Inoue Rion, Matsunaga Ria, Endo Sakari, Kawashima Mifu, Danbara Ruru, and Irie Risa!
    1:09 PM · Oct 8, 2026
    https://x.com/hulu_hello/status/2108046983378452926
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:15
    Guess I'll just subscribe to Hulu for one month.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:17
    Re: #44
    If they're putting it on Hulu now, that means the Nov 25 Pia Arena livestream will also be on Hulu — so if you're subscribing starting today, you should probably plan on sticking it out for two months.
    47AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:16
    Is this the one where Risachi woke up and it was already meeting time?
    48AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:16
    Wish they'd give us more notice on the streaming schedule — announcing it today and starting to stream the same day?
    53AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:18
    Kawashima
    8/25 Today I got to eat something really delicious, so it was a happy day ♩
    8/26 Woke up with terrible muscle soreness, it was rough
    8/27 I was so happy that Inoue-san wore the outfit Mifu gave her as a present

    Irie
    8/25 I woke up really early today. Mom packed me some apple slices she'd cut up, and Dad drove me
    8/27 Massive oversleep ( ; ; ) I was supposed to show up already in hair and makeup, but I woke up right at meeting time
    54AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:19
    Guess I'll subscribe anyway since there's the big-venue show too.
    55AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:19
    Back when they posted just the back-view silhouettes,

    someone reposted saying "I could instantly tell Haru, Mei, and Homare apart"

    …but doesn't that person look kind of silly now?
    56AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:19
    Apparently it runs through Episode 5, streaming every Thursday.
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:20
    Re: #56
    10/08
    10/15
    10/22
    10/29
    11/05
    I see
    There's a bit of a gap between the finale and the Nov 25 (Wed) Pia Arena show.
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:19
    Guess that means a two-month subscription to cover through the big-venue stream.
    66AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:21
    Re: #60
    The Year-End Party show (Hello! Project's annual year-end concert) is on Hulu too.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:20
    Juice is really selling, huh.
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:20
    Grateful for the special program.
    Wish they'd broadcast Budokan too, not just Pia Arena.
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:22
    Re: #64
    Yeah, I'd love for them to do Budokan too.
    Even a pay-per-ticket system would be fine.
    65AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:20
    So does that mean the choreography for 'Karei naru' is by a Korean choreographer?
    70AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:21
    Re: #63
    So 'Karei naru Revenger' gets its first-ever performance at Budokan on 11/6?
    71AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:22
    The exact moment the cymbals went off in my head, notebook and all (a riff on the cymbal-banging toy monkey meme for your brain completely blanking out).

    Background and Key Points

    The series updates every Thursday, running from Episode 1 on October 8 through Episode 5 on November 5, after which there’s roughly a three-week gap before the November 25 Pia Arena concert. Since a live stream of that concert is also planned to run through Hulu, the thread’s main focus became the practical calculation of exactly when to subscribe and when to cancel. On the new single “Karei naru Revenger,” some posters wondered who choreographed it, while others hoped for its first live performance at a Budokan show — though it’s worth noting that, as of now, only the Pia Arena concert has been officially announced, and a Budokan show is not confirmed. The “guess who’s who from the back-view silhouettes” game that got the thread going early on is a recurring pastime among Hello! Project fans, often seen around new-member announcements — and this time, it turned out right after the stream dropped that a number of the earlier guesses were wrong.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Juice=Juice Summer Camp in Korea #Hulu Exclusive Streaming Confirmed!“

  • Gaming Forum Calls Out News Report for Labeling the PS5 a ‘Popular Game Console’ in Theft Story

    A 27-year-old man was arrested for stealing a PlayStation 5 from a retail store in Kiyota Ward, Sapporo, and the news article’s phrasing — calling it a “popular game console” and “a game console known as the PlayStation 5” — set off a stir on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board. While many in the thread pointed out that the console’s name recognition among the general public has slipped, attention also focused on just how sloppy the method was, allegedly hiding it among groceries to slip it past a self-checkout.

    The PS5 just wasn’t recognized by society anymore…

    In July, a 27-year-old man was arrested for stealing two game consoles from a retail store in Kiyota Ward, Sapporo.

    The suspect arrested on suspicion of theft is Norihiro Sakurada (27), a delivery worker from Asahikawa.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:23
    Is it actually true that this is a "popular game console"?
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:24
    It's rare for an article like this to actually name it
    normally it's just "popular game console" or "game console"
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:24
    Elementary schooler: "What's a 'Pwaystation'?" (babytalk mispronunciation of PlayStation)
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:25
    Re: #6
    Shh, you're not supposed to say that out loud
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:26
    "A popular game console known as the 'PlayStation 5'"

    Doubt. (as in calling out a bluff, like the card game)
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:26
    The way they word it, like they've genuinely never heard of it, lol
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:26
    Sorry for having a popular game console, Nishi-kun (derisive nickname for Nintendo fanboys)
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:27
    If they're writing it assuming readers have no idea what a PS5 is, then it's actually accurate
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:28
    If it needs to be explained like that, doesn't that mean it's NOT popular?
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:28
    No wonder State of Play's viewership numbers are so rough…
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    The guy who wrote this article is just clueless about games, that's all
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    [Bad News for Nishi-kun] It's been confirmed all over again that the PS5 is actually popular
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1791407183/
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:31
    Re: #78
    Looks like they're salty that the thread they made (Re: #20) flopped while this one took off
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:33
    W-well, the headline does say "popular"…

    "Popular game console 'PS5' x2 slipped past checkout hidden among groceries, discovered after being brought to a secondhand shop"


    But seriously,
    can you actually get through checkout with a method that sloppy?
    29AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:38
    Re: #22
    There was a time when Sony made sure even TV news properly called it "PS"…
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:41
    Re: #22
    Probably the old trick of stashing it on the bottom rack of the cart to slip past the register
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:37
    Same as "a crowbar-like object" — they probably just can't officially confirm it was a PlayStation 5 (famous vague phrasing Japanese news uses for unconfirmed items)
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:39
    Re: #27
    Guess it was an air purifier, then
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:37
    Well, it IS a popular game console — among scalpers, anyway
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:38
    "The popular XX, as it's called"
    guess this person's never even heard of it
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:39
    A store that rings it up together with groceries, displays the real unit instead of a dummy, AND has self-checkout? The store's security is way too lax, but it's a bold crime — or maybe this "thing called the PS5" sells so poorly they just got careless
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:42
    A store where you can buy groceries and a PS5 in the same place… sounds like Don Quijote (Japanese discount chain)
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:42
    Apparently some people try to sneak 10kg bags of rice through self-checkout
    so a PS5 should be doable too
    though they get caught eventually anyway
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:44
    Re: #31
    But you know, I heard it apparently sucks in dust and blows it back out
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:45
    Well, even the games section is tiny these days
    it's natural to just read this as the console's declining name recognition showing through
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:45
    Checked Google Maps and there's a Don Quijote Hiraoka store in Kiyota Ward — is this the place?
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:46
    Whoever wrote this isn't Japanese, right?
    no native speaker would phrase a proper noun like that
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:49
    Re: #41
    Try swapping in "Xbox" or "3DO" or "LaserActive" instead
    you'd have no choice but to write it this way too
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:07
    If something that costs tens of thousands of yen were really that popular, why was it just sitting around somewhere so easy to shoplift from…
    71AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:16
    Re: #61
    Normally it'd be in a locked case or behind the counter, lol
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:10
    "As it's called" — that's not a phrase you usually hear in this kind of news story, lol
    75AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:19
    Re: #64
    When they clearly know exactly what was stolen,
    phrasing it this way only happens when the stolen item's name recognition is really, really low
    78AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:24
    There's a flood of duplicate threads right now trying to bury this one, lol
    80AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:27
    Maybe the "popular" part was just them assuming "well, it got stolen, so it's probably popular"
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:32
    Re: #80
    No progress since Sony's radio-making days, huh
    90AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:37
    I guess it just means the official name is something different
    though what that actually is, no idea…
    91AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:38
    Re: #90
    Probably an air purifier
    92AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:39
    It's also funny that it got rung up as groceries
    93AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:41
    Re: #92
    The PlayStation is a perishable good — it goes bad within a week of release

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This topic blew up on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board after a news article covering a game console theft used the phrase “popular game console, the PlayStation 5.” Several years after its release, the PS5 is well-regarded among gaming enthusiasts for its performance, but since the name itself still hasn’t fully penetrated the general news-reading public, the article is thought to have opted for this explanatory phrasing. In the thread, many users pointed to the laxness of the store’s security — despite being a product highly prone to resale scalping, it apparently could be carried out of the store just by hiding it in a self-checkout grocery cart. Note that the suspect’s real name and the details of the charges are already public information from news reports; this article limits itself to covering the thread’s reaction to the reporting’s wording.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Mainstream media 📺 apparently there’s a game console called the “PlayStation 5”“.

  • Former Nintendo President Iwata: ‘You Need 10x the CPU, 100x the GPU’ — 5ch: ‘It’s Unfair the Switch 2 Is in the Same Generation as the PS5’

    A thread on 5ch’s hardware-wars (Geha) board blew up after quoting a remark from former Nintendo president Satoru Iwata, made back during GameCube development: “For users to feel a game is ‘clearly different,’ you need 10 times the CPU and 100 times the GPU processing speed.” The thread covered how, despite the GameCube actually outperforming the PS2 at the time, it looked worse on paper because of how polygon counts were reported publicly, and how today’s Switch 2 and PS5 only differ by a few times in raw performance. Opinions were split on whether the spec race still means anything now.

    [Interviewer] And the result of that was the GameCube’s specifications, is that right?

    [Iwata] That’s right. The GameCube was built to be a console where graphics come out easily, where you get near-peak performance without even tuning for it, and where software is simple to make.

    And the very first priority in developing the GameCube was “breaking away from numbers-ism and spec-ism.”

    Source: ascii.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:11
    Just make a proper home console already, like the old days when they put out the DS and GameCube side by side.
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:18
    Re: #2
    And the result was that dev resources got stretched thin, customers gravitated to the cheaper option, and it squeezed the Wii U out as a home console.

    The answer they landed on was the Switch — decent performance, works as a home console, and portable too.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:14
    Re: #2
    Just go buy a PS6 already.
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:17
    So Iwata ("Iwacchi," his nickname) was already around back in the GameCube days?
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:18
    Re: #9
    He was one of the developers.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:17
    Among the people I know, more talk about load times than image quality when comparing PS4 and PS5. Honestly, it's almost all load-time talk.
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:19
    Re: #10
    From an average consumer's point of view, you can't tell the difference in CPU power, so just boosting SSD performance alone is enough to trick people into thinking it's way better.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:24
    But some outlet ended up framing it as something like 'PS2: 66 million polygons, GameCube: the equivalent of only 12 million.'
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:07
    Re: #14
    For reference, they should've said 'by Sony's own metric, we can push 90 million too.' That part was a clear marketing failure.
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:26
    The PS6 is expected to only improve rasterization performance by about 2-3x over the PS5, so it's no wonder people say it won't look any different.
    73AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:59
    Re: #15
    The PS6 is a machine that uses AI to render cleverly.
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:30
    Back in the Wii U days, people were saying pushing PS/Xbox performance any further was pointless.
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:35
    Re: #17
    They scaled the numbers way down going from PS4 to PS5, so that take was right. At the very least, the cost-effectiveness is low.
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:04
    Re: #17
    So does that mean the Wii U was pointless too?
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:38
    GameCube's Rogue Squadron II was insane — it even outclassed the original Xbox in graphics and polygon count back then.
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:49
    Re: #24
    That's just nostalgia goggles talking.
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:49
    Wilds broke PCs and PS5s left and right, so it's kind of wild that a Switch 2 version is even happening.
    81AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:15
    Re: #28
    Even if it breaks after release, Capcom will probably just do what they did with the PC/PS version and say 'not our problem.'
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:55
    Re: #22
    Only Xbox scaled their numbers down drastically. The PS5 is doing great — on track to break 100 million units sold this fiscal year.
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:51
    Re: #32
    If you make it more powerful than the PS4, lowering the numbers from the PS4 defeats the whole point.
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:58
    Thinking about it, isn't it kind of unfair that the Switch 2 is the same generation as the PS5? Something like Wilds should only be achievable at PS5-level quality — why can I play it on a Nintendo handheld?
    42AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:10
    Re: #34
    It's the magic power of AI!
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:09
    The GameCube really was far more powerful than the PS2. How did we end up here…
    43AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:10
    Re: #40
    Even 'far more powerful' only amounted to about 1.5x, so of course differentiating was hard.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:23
    Re: #40
    Launching nearly two years later and still only being 'far more powerful' isn't much to brag about. And even with that edge, it couldn't beat the PS2's fill rate, so in titles that leaned heavily on effects and raw polygon counts, it sometimes actually ran at a lower frame rate than the PS2.
    50AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:26
    Should we talk about how Tales of Symphonia ran at 60fps on GameCube but got downgraded to 30fps on PS5?
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:16
    Re: #50
    Wasn't Symphonia's downgrade because the PS2 lacked multi-texturing, so it had to burn extra polygons just to fake shadows?
    65AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:18
    Re: #50
    Should we talk about how, in a later interview, they said another six months would've let them hit 60fps there too, but they prioritized the release deadline instead?
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:26
    Re: #49
    > in titles that leaned heavily on effects and raw polygon counts, it sometimes actually ran at a lower frame rate than the PS2

    Did that really happen? Can you name a specific title?
    64AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:17
    Re: #51
    Finding Nemo is a famous one, right? It got roasted constantly on the hardware-wars board back then too.
    71AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:26
    Honestly, this still holds up today. It's just that semiconductor progress has slowed down, so you can't squeeze a 100x GPU jump out of a few years anymore. Flip it around, though — since the Switch 2 and PS5 only differ by a few times in performance, you can't really differentiate on graphics, which actually works in the Switch 2's favor since it's portable and has Nintendo's own lineup.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Iwata’s remark comes from an interview given during GameCube development (ascii.jp), reflecting Nintendo’s design philosophy of “breaking away from numbers-ism and spec-ism.” At the time, the GameCube actually outspecced the PS2, but because the method used to calculate polygon counts differed, it looked worse in official materials — commenters in the thread point out this was a marketing failure. Today’s Switch 2 and PS5 are different hardware generations, yet the performance gap between them is only a few times over, a fact rooted in the broader slowdown of semiconductor progress. Some in the thread argued that a gap this small can be closed with software-side tricks like AI-assisted rendering, raising the question of whether Iwata’s “feel over specs” argument still holds up today. That said, issues the thread didn’t touch on remain, such as how accurate AI rendering really is and its effect on power consumption.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Nintendo’s Iwata: ‘To make software where you can perceive it as clearly different, you need 10x the CPU and 100x the GPU processing speed’.”

  • Rate Hikes Push 60% of Landlords to Raise Rent — 5ch: “It’ll Keep Climbing Till It Can’t”

    Following a survey by Rakumachi showing that 77.8% of landlords who finance their properties with loans have felt interest rates rising over the past year, 5ch erupted into debate over where rent hikes are headed. Alongside talk of rising repair costs and insurance premiums, the discussion escalated into a legal argument: can tenants refuse a rent-increase notice justified by “rising interest rates”? What exactly counts as “just cause” under the Act on Land and Building Leases? Opinions split along predictable lines — does a rise in the surrounding market rate count as grounds, or does a landlord’s own cash-flow trouble never qualify as a reason to begin with?

    78% of Real-Estate Investors Using Loans Say “Interest Rates Rose Over the Past Year”

    <Key Points of This Release>

    ・77.8% of people using loans for real estate investment said “interest rates rose over the past year.” Among those whose repayments increased, the median monthly increase was 15,000 yen.

    Source: mainichi.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:07
    Repair costs just keep going up too.
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:25
    Re: #4
    Shared-area repair costs are rising too, plus you've got in-unit breakdowns and renovations to deal with.
    175AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:48
    Re: #4
    Insurance is going up too.
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:08
    Why would the person renting have to shoulder that? Are you an idiot?
    275AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:13
    Re: #8
    If you don't like it, move out lol
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:11
    If you don't mind your relationship with the landlord going sour, you can refuse the rent increase.
    181AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:49
    Re: #18
    Same goes for the landlord's side.

    If they don't mind the relationship with the tenant going sour, they can propose a rent hike.
    But under a standard (indefinite-term) lease, the landlord is at a massive legal disadvantage anyway.

    If they still want to push for a hike knowing that, be my guest.
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:11
    Rate hikes actually push rents down. Raising rent out of desperation is pointless if it just means fewer tenants.
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:12
    Re: #19
    Nah, rent will keep climbing till it can't climb anymore lol
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:17
    Re: #19
    Good properties can just push it onto tenants — there's always someone else willing to take it.
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:17
    If you're a genuinely wealthy landowner-landlord, none of this matters. But for the landlords running it as a leveraged business, this really hurts. Tough luck for any tenant who ends up with one of those.
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:24
    Re: #40
    Well, I guess you could just use that oft-cited perk of renting and move out. But the real question is whether "interest payments are tough" actually counts as valid grounds for a rent hike or not.
    98AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:27
    Re: #40
    That's on the landlord for jumping on a variable-rate loan just because it was cheap at the time, instead of locking in a fixed rate.
    There's no reason the tenant should have to go along with the landlord's bad call.

    If a rent hike is proposed, the tenant should calmly demand justification, and when "rising interest rates" gets cited, just flatly refuse on the grounds above.

    It's a legitimate right granted to tenants under the Act on Land and Building Leases, so there's zero obligation to do the landlord any favors.
    70AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:23
    A new elderly tenant of mine did nothing but complain and call me every single day, so I sold the property. I'd planned to just repaint the exterior like normal for the next 20 years, never raise the rent, and be happy profiting off land appreciation alone — I even took in elderly tenants basically as charity. Then recently I ran into a tenant I know at the supermarket, and they told me the new landlord raised their rent by 6,000 yen. I told them the whole story — that I gave up the property because of that complainer old man.
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:25
    Re: #70
    That kind of goodwill only worked before social media took off. In an era where seemingly all of Japan has turned into complainers, showing that kind of kindness just gets you taken advantage of until you burn out.
    106AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    Re: #70
    You're the conscience of Japan.
    88AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:26
    Re: #72
    Landlords can cite any reason they want for a rent hike, that part's free.
    But even if costs went up, it's pointless unless someone actually agrees to live there.

    Just look at the rice market — farmers and distributors can scream about cost-push all they want, but once demand disappears, prices either collapse mercilessly or the stuff just doesn't sell, period.
    118AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:33
    Re: #88
    Mid-lease changes can't even happen in the first place unless the stated reason has legitimate grounds.
    198AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:53
    Re: #88
    Rent is set by the market, so if it's rising because of interest rates, it'll rise roughly in lockstep everywhere — doesn't matter where you flee to, it's the same. In that sense, renters don't really have a choice.
    89AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:26
    If every landlord raises rent at once, would renters actually move somewhere cheaper? It's not like "rent's too high, guess I'll buy a condo" is a realistic option.
    94AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:27
    Re: #89
    People gradually drain out of the pricier places, then landlords start cutting rent to fill the vacancies, and the cycle repeats.
    105AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    Re: #89
    Because of security deposits (shikikin) and key money (reikin), tenants can't easily just leave even over a modest rent hike.
    123AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:34
    Re: #89
    Renters tend to be the nimble, quick-to-move type to begin with, so yeah, that'll happen. The real problem is poor elderly tenants — like the one mentioned earlier in this thread. Rent to them out of the kindness of your heart, and evicting them later becomes way more than just "a bit of a hassle."
    110AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:31
    Even if the landlord sends you a rent-increase notice, you can just ignore it and keep paying the same rent as before, and you won't get evicted. That's how strong tenant protections are under Japanese law.
    125AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:34
    Re: #110
    With a fixed-term lease, the landlord can simply refuse to renew.
    If your payments fall short of what's billed, hiding behind the Act on Land and Building Leases won't help.
    Your rights just evaporate once the contract term ends.
    168AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:46
    Re: #139
    You can refuse a unilateral rent hike, you know. Make them produce documentation justifying the increase, push back, negotiate it down — that sort of thing. It'll end up in court eventually, but only if you're prepared to go that far.
    182AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:49
    Re: #168
    With "rising interest rates, rising upkeep costs" as the stated grounds, that's probably legitimate enough that the landlord would win.
    187AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:50
    Re: #182
    Rising interest rates isn't actually valid grounds, though… "Valid grounds" means things like the rent being markedly below the surrounding market rate.
    191AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:51
    Re: #187
    The surrounding market rate is exactly what's rising though lol
    202AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:54
    Re: #187
    Cost increases from inflation and rising interest rates are valid grounds.
    242AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:02
    Are fewer people building houses these days? My neighbors are a doctor couple paying 250,000 yen a month in rent. Apparently they're moving again, but if you're paying that much rent, wouldn't it make more sense to just build a house?
    243AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:03
    Re: #242
    Can't be helped if they're a salaried hospital doctor.
    252AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:07
    Re: #242
    Fine if you're a doctor, but apparently Daiwa House's "Daiwa Man" condos won't take you below 50 million yen for the building alone — and that's new construction.
    245AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:04
    After spending all that time and money to get a ruling, you'll probably just end up back at the original contract rent lol

    If it were easy to win, articles about struggling landlords wouldn't exist in the first place.
    267AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:11
    Re: #245
    It's just that hardly anyone did this before, because hiring a lawyer for every case meant you couldn't recoup the cost.
    Actually, doing it yourself isn't even that complicated a procedure — once you get the hang of it, you can do it over and over…
    Feel free to gloat right now based on the old deflation-era mindset, but we're in an inflationary era now, so the number of landlords pursuing mediation or lawsuits is only going to increase.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Even when a landlord tries to unilaterally raise the rent, tenants are protected under the Act on Land and Building Leases, and a rent hike isn’t automatically approved at every lease renewal. The core legal point in the thread was that courts weigh objective benchmarks — comparisons with surrounding market rates, changes in fixed-asset tax, and the like — as “just cause” for a rent increase, while a landlord’s own rising interest burden does not, by itself, count as direct grounds. On the other hand, if inflation has pushed up the surrounding market rate itself, there’s room for a hike to ultimately be approved — and that’s exactly where opinions in the thread diverged. It’s also easy to overlook that with a fixed-term lease, the landlord can refuse to renew at the end of the term, which weakens the tenant’s negotiating position compared to a standard (indefinite-term) lease. Choosing a variable-rate loan was the landlord’s own business decision, and whether that risk can be passed on to the tenant is ultimately decided by contract and law — not sentiment.

    ※This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Landlords Squeezed by Rising Interest Rates — Over 60% Move to Raise Rent, Rakumachi Survey Finds.”

  • Former PlayStation Exec Questions PS5 Disc Discontinuation: ‘What Are Players Actually Buying?’

    Sony Interactive Entertainment has announced it will end disc production for new PlayStation console games as of January 2028. In response, former PlayStation Worldwide Studios chairman Shawn Layden raised the question on a podcast: “If you truly don’t own it, what are players even buying?” On 5ch’s gaming hardware board, posters clashed between frustration that digital copies are effectively just licenses—carrying the risk that ownership could simply vanish—and voices accepting it as an inevitable sign of the times. Some suggested Nintendo’s game-key-card system as an alternative, while others cited past examples like the Vita’s discontinuation.

    Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (SIE) recently announced that it will end disc production for new PlayStation console games as of January 2028. The announcement has sparked backlash from many players over concerns about game preservation and ownership. Amid this, former PlayStation Worldwide Studios chairman Shawn Layden has openly questioned whether this decision shows disregard for the platform’s most loyal core gamers.

    Layden recently appeared on the podcast “The Expansion Pass,” where he acknowledged that digital downloads have genuinely made buying and playing games more convenient.

    “Players really do… yeah, we love downloads. Everyone says, ‘Downloading is more convenient than going to the store to buy a game!’ But that’s not quite right. Downloading is only really more convenient because it’s easier than walking across the living room and putting a disc into the console.”

    Source: toy-people.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:16
    Shawn Layden sure started complaining a lot after he left, huh
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:34
    Re: #2
    It's like a politician who left office becoming a TV pundit and just saying whatever they want.
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:47
    Re: #2
    Maybe he just couldn't say it publicly before?

    Even if he was thinking "PlayStation's gone crazy! I don't want to do this! Is SONY's upper management even okay?" — his position meant he couldn't say that outside the company.
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:29
    The fact that Sony won't even officially let you transfer ownership from a physical disc to a digital copy already shows how dumb it is for people to start saying "you don't really need physical anyway."
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Re: #8
    Don't get why you'd complain when it still works lol
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:34
    Re: #9
    Once things move to the PS6 and there's no disc drive, PS5 physical-disc owners will lose even their backward-compatibility rights once the hardware changes.

    You should actually look at reality before firing off a reply on autopilot, or all you're conveying is how cringe you sound.
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:46
    Re: #12
    Wii U discs don't even work on the Switch though
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:51
    >The article points out that given the possibility digital content could disappear due to licensing or platform policy changes, it's only natural for players to start imagining the worst-case scenario.

    This, exactly.
    If you had a physical copy, you'd never have to worry about that.
    It's all PlayStation's fault for killing discs.
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:01
    Re: #24
    Even with a physical copy, if the servers shut down you can't apply patches anyway
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    Thinking about it that way, Nintendo is actually scarier since they end online services unusually fast.
    Shutting down the 3DS and Wii that quickly was way too soon.
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:56
    Re: #25
    Nintendo still puts out a full lineup of its own branded software, so owner satisfaction is on a completely different level.
    The really scary one is Sony — with the Vita, first-party support dried up in barely two years and they acted like the hardware never existed.
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:03
    Re: #25
    Do you know how many years SIE's first-party mobile games lasted before getting shut down?
    36AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:05
    Re: #25
    You can still re-download both of those even now
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:56
    Discs aren't going to stick around.
    They don't fit the times anymore and they add unnecessary cost.
    There's no way they're still including a BD drive at this point.
    52AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:17
    Re: #28
    I wish they'd switch to a key-card system so it works on both handheld and home consoles.
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:15
    You won't even be able to buy a PS3 next year either — guess that makes it trash too?
    58AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:24
    Re: #46
    Impressive that it lasted 21 years
    54AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Well, friend, that's because SIE went and earned itself some anger
    57AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:22
    Re: #54
    So if you say something clever you get handed a disc?
    55AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    If it weren't for the storage issue, key cards would be the perfect solution.

    Oh
    So Nintendo's the one trying to standardize the whole key-card concept too, huh.
    Figures — Nintendo really is the ruler of the gaming industry.
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:25
    Re: #55
    For anyone who doesn't resell their games, it's nothing but downsides
    63AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:29
    Normal person: physical and digital both have pros and cons, right?
    Weird person: physical is evil! It should be abolished!

    There you go.
    66AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:31
    Re: #63
    Nobody's actually saying the latter — they're just saying physical going away is simply the way the times are moving
    65AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:31
    Sony only ever said they're ending discs, yet people are dumb enough to start treating physical media itself as the enemy lol
    69AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:33
    Re: #65
    It's a religion after all.
    Whatever Lord Sony does must be correct, right?
    75AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:37
    Why do codes have expiration dates anyway?
    That doesn't benefit anybody
    81AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:43
    Re: #75
    Because it comes bundled with in-game currency.
    When you sell something like that for real money, the maker is obligated to hold funds in reserve to prevent fraud.
    But if you set an expiration of around six months, buyers knowingly accept it'll stop working soon, so no reserve is needed.
    Knowledge I picked up from the "Tomato" incident with the BanG Dream DS game (a prepaid in-game currency controversy).
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:38
    Re: #69
    Sony's literally saying they'll keep working to maintain their relationship with retailers, yet here you are attacking physical media — you can't even understand what your master is saying
    78AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:41
    Re: #76
    That's a classic cult thing too — regardless of what the guru actually intends, the followers just keep radicalizing and spiraling out of control on their own
    82AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:43
    Digital is the mainstream now! Physical only appeals to a niche!
    ↓
    Capcom's new release: physical and digital sales split about 50/50


    There you go.
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:47
    Re: #82
    Applying the "90% digital" stat — which lumps new and old releases together — directly to a brand-new title is just dumb.
    If launch momentum is that sluggish, word of mouth drops too, which affects the online population as well.
    89AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:50
    No physical manufacturing, no physical product, no retail distribution cut, no ownership either.

    So why are they trying to sell this for the same price?

    That's exactly the point people should be pushing back on 😡
    91AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:51
    Re: #89
    That's really just a story about physical having a smaller profit margin though
    99AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:02
    Re: #89
    If they want to steer people toward the more profitable digital option, they need to put in the effort — things like a returns policy, or a lending system.

    Speaking of which, Nintendo does seem to be showing signs of exploring a lending system.
    Figures, from the ruler of the gaming industry.
    Oh right, Microsoft was trying something like that too.

    There was one more company doing that too, wasn't there — wonder what happened to them.
    101AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:05
    It's a rental, that's why expiration terms come up at all lol
    102AnonymousOct 8, 2026 13:06
    Re: #101
    That's exactly why there's no expiration

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    What SIE announced was the “end of disc production for new games,” not the abolition of packaged (physical) versions themselves — a distinction that was repeatedly conflated throughout the thread. The core of former PlayStation executive Shawn Layden’s point is that digital versions aren’t truly a “purchase” but effectively a license to use, meaning consumers bear the risk of losing access if a service shuts down or licensing policy changes. In the thread, Nintendo’s game-key-card system (a card that carries only the license data) came up as a possible alternative, though posters also pointed out the separate challenge of storage capacity limits. Comments conflating “ending discs” with “abolishing physical packaging entirely” muddled the discussion, and in some cases the clash between digital and physical camps escalated into personal attacks.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Gaming)) thread “Former PS Exec Questions PS5 Disc Discontinuation: “If You Truly Can’t Own It, What Are Players Even Buying?”“.

  • The ‘XX Lady’ Title Is Dying Out — 5ch Fires Back: ‘Just Speak Japanese’

    Women-only job titles like “stewardess” and “Yakult Lady” are increasingly being swapped out for gender-neutral terms. The original article highlighted new coinages like “Sonaeru-ju.” On 5ch, the thread split between posters questioning what practical difference the new names actually make and those who dismissed the skeptics as out-of-touch relics. Many replies pointed to real-world job titles — Yakult Ladies, Pink Lady, the history of JAL and ANA’s cabin crew titles — to argue just how messy renaming actually gets.

    Job titles that once specified a woman’s gender are shifting toward gender-neutral forms. The hope seems to be that moving past gender distinctions will open the door for a more diverse range of people to thrive. (By Saki Sakamoto)

    ■”Out of step with the times”

    “Our nickname is now ‘Sonaeru-ju.’”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:23
    Sanaeru-ju
    42AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    There's no point coining a term nobody understands.
    Customers have no idea what the job even is, so you end up having to explain it every single time.
    You'll inevitably have to invent a separate term that actually makes sense to outsiders.
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Meanwhile, words like "ossan" (derogatory slang for "old/middle-aged guy") that arguably promote discrimination against men get a complete free pass — talk about unfair.
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:23
    This is ridiculous
    How long are we going to keep up this outdated genderless act
    Men and women actually are different, you know
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:24
    Re: #4
    Most people in the world are idiots anyway
    so it's best not to expect too much from society
    148AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:50
    Re: #4
    Yeah, I really do think that too
    Stop wasting time on this nonsense and get back to work
    It's probably just busywork, but must be nice having such an easy job
    246AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:11
    Re: #4
    Fair point, but there's no need to deliberately create gender distinctions either
    6AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:23
    Just speak Japanese (net slang for 'that makes no sense')
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:25
    Re: #6
    I guess it counts as Japanese, since it comes from "sonaeru" (to prepare/equip)?
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Re: #16
    "Sonaeru-jo" would just barely pass as Japanese
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:25
    I'd buy Yakult from a Yakult Lady, but if some guy showed up yelling "Dick Yakult, right here!" you wouldn't buy it, would you?

    That's exactly my point
    95AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:41
    Re: #18
    "Yakult Boy" just makes you wonder where exactly the Yakult is coming from, and "Yakult Person" doesn't sit right either.
    194AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:02
    Re: #18
    Yakult sales work by having the seller buy stock from Yakult every morning and resell it to customers
    so if you're unattractive or a man, you simply can't move product and won't last
    in the end, only charming, cute women survive in that job
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:26
    So what do we call Pink Lady now, then?
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:32
    Re: #22
    A Hayashiya Pāko wannabe? (a famously loud, flamboyant Japanese TV personality)
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:26
    Thinking about it now, "Pink Lady" is a pretty wild name
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Re: #24
    Then what about "Pink Saturn"?
    132AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:48
    Re: #24
    And "My Wife" too, lol
    37AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:29
    No matter what anyone says, I'm sticking with "nurse," "stewardess," and "waitress" — this is ridiculous
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Re: #37
    Welcome to the world of out-of-touch old-timers
    267AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:14
    Re: #37
    A textbook case of an out-of-touch old-timer
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:29
    Re: #1
    So JAL only switched to "CA" (cabin attendant) quite a while after everyone else, huh
    150AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:51
    Re: #39
    JAL looked down on ANA, so they probably didn't want to copy them
    Once JAL went bankrupt, though, the tables turned
    311AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Re: #39
    In the US and UK it's "flight attendant," isn't it
    47AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:30
    Honestly, it's absurd to call these terms "discriminatory" when they actually add a certain prestige
    "female doctor," "actress," "Miss So-and-so" — why would you want to shrink your own spotlight like that?
    170AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:55
    Re: #47
    I'm in my 20s, and honestly all of those sound dated to me

    "Joyuu" (actress) makes me think of "sexy actress" (a porn-industry term) these days
    It took me about two days to get used to just calling everyone "actor,"
    but "actor Non" or "actor Yu Aoi" sound great to me
    318AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    If they abolished Ladies' Day, people would probably lose their minds in a blind rage
    329AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:23
    Re: #318
    Rename it "Vajainuru Day" (a crude pun riffing on "vagina")
    331AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:23
    Re: #318
    Instead of scrapping it outright, they just made it cheaper for men too
    Ladies' Day → Cinema Day
    with discounts for both men and women

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Gender-neutral job titles have been a long-running trend in the airline and service industries — as one thread post noted, JAL switched to calling its cabin crew “CA” later than ANA did, showing that individual companies have each picked their own terminology rather than following any unified standard. There’s no legal requirement driving this; it’s largely a branding choice. The thread split along two lines: a practical argument over whether changing a title actually accomplishes anything (since new terms can be confusing and require extra explanation), versus a values-based argument that the old titles are simply “out of step with the times.” Neither the article nor the replies touch on this, but it’s worth noting for readers: renaming a job title doesn’t change the actual duties or working conditions that come with it — a change in name and a change in substance are two separate issues that are easy to conflate.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “The disappearing “XX Lady” — gender-neutral titles spread… “Sonaeru-ju,” “Ambassador,” “Cabin Attendant”.”

  • Nippon Ham’s “Shau Essen” sausage downsizing slogan sparks backlash

    When Nippon Ham reduced the amount of its staple sausage product “Shau Essen,” the company used the slogan “We won’t lose to the times!” (a euphemism for the downsizing) to announce it, sparking a wave of criticism on 5ch. Frustration erupted over the tactic of dressing up the fact of a reduced quantity in upbeat language instead of stating it plainly, with some users invoking Yukijirushi Dairy — the company that dissolved after a food-poisoning scandal — to say Nippon Ham “looks set to become the next Yukijirushi.” In the thread, the main talking points were a comparison showing that rival Ito Ham’s “Alt Bayern” is actually the better deal even at the same sale price, and a contrast with Nissin, which openly states its price hikes without dressing them up.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:46
    Seriously, they probably didn't expect this much backlash…
    Goodbye, Nippon Ham
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:50
    This is the next KitKat, isn't it
    "We made it a smaller, easier-to-eat size" lol
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:53
    Re: #4
    Smaller and easier to eat, easier for women to hold, blah blah — how many times are they going to hide the downside for consumers behind a positive spin and blow up in their faces? Learn already.
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:59
    Re: #4
    If anything, this is the kind of screwup that threatens the company's very survival.
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:55
    "We won't lose to the times!" (downsizing) ← seriously, what does that even mean lol
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:03
    Re: #11
    Guess the ad agency hired an idiot?
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:59


    Even backlash experts aren't staying quiet
    37AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:05
    Re: #18
    The fact that there are so many similar flare-ups means this kind of ad spin must be an established template in the industry.
    79AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:17
    Re: #18
    This person had a post a while back talking about the DPJ (Democratic Party of Japan) government — it was really easy to follow.
    89AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:20
    Re: #18
    And on top of that, Nippon Ham had teased the day before that they had a "major announcement" coming.
    That just makes people think "maybe they're increasing the amount? 😊" or "maybe they're lowering the price? 🥹"
    Then it turns out to just be "we reduced the amount" — of course people are going to be furious.
    Whoever runs their social media should just stick to announcing good news.
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:00
    There's a success story like Garigari-kun's price hike, where they handled it honestly and got praised for it.
    So why do companies keep trying to disguise price hikes, sparking backlash over and over?
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:01
    Re: #21
    Though, there was also that cartel thing, by the way.
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:00
    What about increasing the weight per piece instead — how would that work out taste-wise?
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:03
    Re: #22
    The story is that when you compare the weight before and after the change, the old version was actually heavier.
    Lying on top of a lame excuse is just not okay.
    48AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:11
    Every company seems to have more clueless PR people these days.
    What generation are they, I wonder?
    56AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:13
    Apologizing for a price increase —
    Japan's the only country in the world that does that (lol)
    60AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:13
    Re: #56
    That's not quite it, though~
    69AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:15
    Re: #56
    Exactly, there's no need to apologize at all.
    Just stay quiet on social media.
    No need to posture or act tough either.
    65AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:15
    Lol ("grass" — net slang for LOL)
    I don't hate this kind of silly joke
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:15
    Re: #65
    Even among companies from the same city, Osaka, the fortunes really diverged here.
    80AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:17
    Re: #10
    This.
    Big-company people are surprisingly dumb, lol
    94AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Re: #80
    In the first place, they're just picking whichever one sounds good from a handful of taglines the ad agency came up with — they're not really thinking it through.
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:18
    ps://i.imgur.com/uzTtPrG.jpg
    ps://i.imgur.com/EkrauFg.jpg
    ps://i.imgur.com/y6L7Alf.jpeg
    ps://i.imgur.com/2HfLSeC.jpg
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:18
    Re: #83
    Guess they couldn't beat the times after all…
    86AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:19
    They should just raise prices matter-of-factly like McDonald's does.
    Making wishy-washy excuses totally backfires.
    95AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Re: #86
    Even among "evils," a powerful villain with real conviction ends up loved, while a weak one that only looks out for itself gets hated.
    Japan right now has gotten weird because the voices of the weak, trying to get their weakness accepted, have gotten too loud.
    91AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:20
    Doesn't anyone stop this kind of thing before it goes out?
    109AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:25
    Re: #91
    Management: "Get to work" → Marketing: "Hmm, there's nothing good to highlight about this downgrade…" → "I know! I'll tell a positive lie that'll satisfy the higher-ups!"
    93AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:20
    Nissin's impressive, honestly — they just straight up say they're raising prices again and again, way too bold.
    They even raised prices two months in a row at one point.
    96AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Re: #93
    Well, they've got to raise wages and boost shareholder dividends too.
    97AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:21
    Could they not just reduce the grams per piece and increase the number of pieces instead?
    118AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:27
    I asked Gemini

    【Capacity and Price Comparison】
    ■Shau Essen (Nippon Ham)
    ・Net weight: 214g (107g × 2 packs)
    ・List price: ¥702 (tax included)
    ・Sale price: roughly ¥398–450

    ■Grand Alt Bayern (Ito Ham)
    ・Net weight: 234g (117g × 2 packs)
    ・List price: ¥710 (tax included)
    ・Sale price: roughly ¥398–450

    ★Key points
    ・Alt Bayern comes with 20g more per 2 packs (about one extra sausage).
    ・When sold at the same sale price (e.g. ¥398), Alt Bayern works out cheaper per gram — the better deal.
    124AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:29
    Re: #118
    Wait, these things have such a high list price??? I only ever knew the sale price.
    127AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    Re: #118
    I bet this is a classic case of someone who just moved out on their own going "guess I'll grab some sausages!" at the supermarket and getting a shock at the price.
    128AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    Re: #118
    Yeah, Alt Bayern's the one, as expected.
    126AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:29
    They could've just kept the amount the same and raised the price instead — why do something that makes no sense?
    129AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:30
    Re: #126
    Ryuji (the famous home-cooking YouTuber) said companies like to keep prices unchanged because of the extra burden it puts on checkout operations.
    131AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:31
    Re: #126
    That's because they want to get criticism down to zero.
    Same as how a cut player gets relabeled a "non-tender" instead of just "released." (baseball term)
    135AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:32
    Re: #126
    Because if they did that, people would just go "that's expensive!" and not buy it.

    Background and key points of this topic

    The Shau Essen controversy centers on the fact that Nippon Ham reduced the product’s quantity while announcing it with the upbeat slogan “We won’t lose to the times!” — a move that triggered backlash against so-called stealth price hikes (shrinkflation). The “Yukijirushi” reference in the thread points to Yukijirushi Dairy, the company forced to dissolve after a mass food-poisoning incident in 2000, reflecting just how seriously users view this backlash as a threat to the brand’s survival. That said, it’s worth noting that the gram-and-price comparison discussed in the thread was one user’s own summary based on an AI chatbot’s answer, not an official statement from Nippon Ham or Ito Ham. The contrast with a company like Nissin, which openly states its price increases without dressing them up, also helped highlight just how strong this backlash has been.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Bad News] Nippon Ham looks set to become the next Yukijirushi over the Shau Essen situation….”

  • Satomi Ishihara’s ‘Political Pan’ Opens to a Soft 5.6% Rating

    Fuji TV’s Wednesday 10pm drama ‘Political Pan’ aired on October 8, drawing an average household rating of 5.6% for its premiere (Video Research, Kanto region). The original screenplay comes from Nogi Akiko, known for hits like ‘Unnatural’ and ‘MIU404,’ and stars Satomi Ishihara alongside a heavyweight supporting cast including Kazunari Takahashi, Atsuro Watabe, Masao Kusakari, and Yumi Kawai. Reactions on 5ch were full of surprise that the numbers didn’t take off despite the star-studded cast and acclaimed screenwriter, with jokes about how the title ‘Political Pan’ evokes the master thief Lupin, as well as doubts about Fuji TV’s programming sense in general.

    Satomi Ishihara’s highly-anticipated drama: Fuji’s ‘Political Pan’ opens at 5.6% — script by Nogi Akiko

    It has been learned that the premiere of Fuji TV’s Wednesday 10:00 pm drama ‘Political Pan,’ starring actress Satomi Ishihara, drew an average household rating of 5.6% (Video Research, Kanto region).

    The series is an original story by hitmaker Nogi Akiko, who has delivered numerous hits including ‘Unnatural’ and ‘MIU404,’ and won the Japan Academy Prize for Best Screenplay for the film ‘Last Mile’ and ‘The Voice of Sin’ (based on the novel by Takeshi Shiota).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:56
    Wonder if PM Takaichi is watching this drama too?
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:58
    Sorimachi, Oda, Ishihara—doesn't matter who Fuji TV brings in, it's hopeless
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:59
    The title is just too awful…
    I'll watch it later anyway though
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:59
    I'll keep watching I guess,
    but it wasn't that interesting
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:59
    That's actually a good number for this slot on Fuji—thanks to Ishihara and Nogi's script
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:01
    Political Pan…
    so it's basically like 'Pan the Bread Thief'? (a popular kids' picture-book character)
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:02
    Even with a hot, in-demand screenwriter, it still flops on Fuji?
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:02
    Did Nogi, who's taken heat for being too PC, pick this title out of spite?
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:07
    Re: #15
    It's a coined word combining 'political' with 'Lupin,' the byword for master thief
    73AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:44
    Re: #26
    So it's a socially-conscious drama about politics?
    ( ´◔‿◔`)
    83AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:48
    Re: #26
    I opened this thread thinking the title read 'Politi-Calpan,' not 'Political Pan'
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:02
    Re: #1
    What's with Fuji TV?
    Is there some rule that every drama title
    has to have 'Lupin' crammed into it?
    Seriously, let Lupin go already.

    These drama titles are so lame.
    Kids these days
    don't even know who Lupin is.
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:02
    Such a star-studded cast, yet this is what you get on Fuji
    19AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:03
    NHK, Fuji, Netflix, DMM—Watabe's hotter than ever right now
    He must be swamped
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:06
    Re: #19
    Looks like the generation whose brains got fried by 'Keizoku' (a 1999 hit drama) is now in charge of casting, so he keeps getting picked
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:04
    Not that into Satomi Ishihara herself, but the supporting cast—Kazunari Takahashi, Atsuro Watabe, Masao Kusakari, Yumi Kawai—is so solid I'm watching for them
    Still, Kusakari's age is unbelievable
    22AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:05
    Re: #20
    With a cast and a hot screenwriter like this lined up…
    and it's still only 5.6%?
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:04
    What's Satomi Ishihara's actual signature role anyway?
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:06
    Who was the extra cast member Nogi was hinting at?
    27AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:07
    Fuji's done for no matter what they do now
    Even re-airing Vivant wouldn't crack 10% at this point
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:10
    Re: #27
    These days in Japan they just hide behind 'core viewer ratings,' a bogus metric that's basically a scam

    Take 'Atarashii Kagi' (New Key)—stuck in the 2% range on regular ratings, yet they claim it's fine on core ratings and won't cancel it, which is just dumb
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:07
    'Last Mile' felt more like a TV special than an actual movie
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:12
    Re: #28
    That's because it was just a crossover cash-in using 'Unnatural' and 'MIU404'—shows with no plans for real sequels—to pull in an audience
    29AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:07
    'Ginga no Ichihyou' (lit. 'A Vote from the Galaxy,' another current drama) was more interesting—comparing first episodes
    100AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:02
    Re: #29
    And yet this one's cast fees are probably way higher, no comparison
    72AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:44
    Merry Berry Love: Ji Chang-wook x Mio Imada's cross-border rom-com kicks off—premiere rating 3.9%, individual rating 2.1%
    https://mantan-web.jp/article/20261008dog00m200000000a.html
    96AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:59
    Re: #72
    Wow, they really shoehorned Korea into this one
    75AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:45
    Nobody thought back in her 'Teru Teru Kazoku' days that she'd become this big a name
    76AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:46
    Re: #73
    It satirizes politics, but at its core it's a Robin-Hood-style thief drama
    85AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:52
    Re: #76
    A righteous thief, huh
    So it's one of those feel-good 'Sukatto Japan'-style comeuppance shows
    ( ´◔‿◔`)
    87AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:53
    It's a Nogi Akiko script and it's still not interesting? Has she run dry?
    92AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:55
    Re: #87
    Even she has her hits and misses
    97AnonymousOct 8, 2026 12:00
    Re: #87
    She just had a huge flop with 'Last Mile'
    ( ´◔‿◔`)

    Background and Talking Points on This Story

    The 5.6% figure is a household rating for the Kanto region. The ‘core viewer rating’ mentioned in the replies is a separate metric based on individual viewership that Video Research introduced in recent years. Because a low household rating can still coexist with a high core rating—which networks weigh heavily when deciding whether to keep a show on air—the two figures aren’t easily compared. Many in the thread felt the show ‘underperformed’ relative to Nogi Akiko’s past work, but a serial drama’s reputation isn’t set in stone after one episode; ratings commonly shift from week to week. As several replies noted, the title ‘Political Pan’ is said to be a coined term blending ‘political’ with the master-thief icon ‘Lupin’—a naming choice that’s as much about signaling the show’s theme as it is about catchy wordplay.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Ratings] Satomi Ishihara-starring drama ‘Political Pan’ opens at 5.6% — script by Nogi Akiko.”

  • Shohei Ohtani Hitting .154 in the Postseason — 5ch: “Just Let Him Rest Already”

    Shohei Ohtani’s postseason numbers — 2-for-13 (.154) with zero home runs — have become a hot topic on 5ch. This season, even after returning from injury, he hasn’t pitched at all, and his hitting has looked flat game after game. The thread saw both sympathetic calls of “just let him rest” and harsher takes slamming “both his stats and his attitude,” with opinion sharply divided. The discussion even spilled over into talk of a possible future move and how his time with the team might eventually end.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:52
    ・Postseason
    Batting average: .154 (2-for-13)
    Home runs: 0
    2AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:54
    This guy's a pitcher, right?
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:05
    Re: #2
    He's not even pitching at all this year
    3AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:54
    Re: #1
    Is Ohtani one of the people shaken up by the "Mein-chan" thing too? (an unrelated internet news reference)
    5AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:56
    He really shouldn't push himself anymore this season
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:56
    Among Dodgers fans, people are saying he should be dropped from the starting lineup — the team's actually stronger without him
    9AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:56
    "30 home runs," "8 wins, 2 losses," "1.79 ERA" — and yet he still gets slammed with "Ohtani's era is over!"… Have we simply grown numb to just how otherworldly his numbers really are?

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/13b1e76089fabcdf8b183b32e5e0e6a2955c2f8b
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:58
    Here comes "Mr. Rehab" again!
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:59
    When the loud media coverage disappears, it's kind of lonely too
    13AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:06
    I didn't want to see Ohtani yesterday desperately yelling "hey hey hey" and arguing for a batter's-interference call
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:06
    His head's probably already full of offseason training plans
    That's just how "driven" a top-tier ballplayer is, right?
    He probably figures he's still worth putting on the field even as just a show-Ohtani (i.e., a spectacle/attraction rather than an actual performer)
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:07
    Autumn Ohtani:
    Grounder to the right, lazy fly to the left, strikeout, strikeout, the occasional walk
    16AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:10
    Glad he's having fun, at least
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUEq-zAb0AAqZSl.jpg
    18AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:25
    Feel bad for the young guy who was playing great but got sent down once Ohtani came back
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:41
    When he's slumping there's less of him on TV, which is nice
    Honestly my opinion of Shohei Ohtani has been going up lately
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:41
    Wait, he's still playing?… Just let him rest already
    23AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:44
    Did something break when his arm got kicked coming out of the dugout?
    He might be hiding a serious injury
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:44
    Thought it was rough timing with a newborn on the way, but contract-wise with the Dodgers he actually gets paid more after he retires, so he's set either way
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:48
    Like a sumo grand champion, once he's off his game he should just withdraw and rest right away (referencing how ailing yokozuna sit out tournaments)
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:49
    Back in spring, Egawa pointed out that Ohtani was focusing too hard on breaking his pitches and his arm slot had dropped, warning he'd get hurt — and that's exactly what happened (Egawa: Suguru Egawa, a former pro pitcher turned commentator)
    29AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:50
    Bad numbers would be one thing, but his attitude's bad too
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:50
    That rule was basically made just so all of America could watch Ohtani
    Don't really need it anymore, huh
    Bet that rule gets scrapped within a few years lol
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:51
    A third Tommy John surgery this offseason?
    32AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:51
    Still, he's had a good run for something like 10 years, hasn't he?
    34AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:52
    Re: #32
    He announced the move in 2017 and joined the Angels in '18
    That's only 8 years
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:52
    It's not just his elbow — the knee pain won't go away either, right? Sports just aren't happening at this point
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:52
    Isn't it about time he transfers to the Tokyo Yomiuri Giants?
    Or maybe Fukuoka SoftBank, or Rakuten under Mikitani?
    37AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:53
    Still, moving at 23 was the right call
    No need to have waited until 25
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    Playing in the World Series into November, then straight into the WBC early in spring — with barely any time for proper care or training, the lack of conditioning probably caught up with him by summer
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    Re: #38
    The WBC was seriously in the way
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    Would've been better if he'd made the move at 21 or 22
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    TV was spinning it positive again today, saying Ohtani's baserunning helped the team win
    42AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:54
    He's still got years left on his contract, but it'd be fine even if he retired now, right?
    43AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:56
    He can probably coast on momentum for two more years
    But after that's the real question
    44AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:56
    A Nikkan Gendai article (a Japanese tabloid) said he used to be strict about his diet, but now he's drinking soda and eating hot dogs
    45AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:57
    Yeah, "Lord Ohtani's" prestige will hold up for a few more years, but if he can't hit or pitch at all, there's no way he makes it to the end of his contract
    46AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:57
    The owners have already gotten more than their money's worth, so that's not an issue
    But it's a question of how Ohtani himself wants to close out his career
    48AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:58
    Re: #46
    What about the Dodgers fans?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Shohei Ohtani is known for his two-way play as both pitcher and hitter, and this season, following his return from injury, he’s faced an unusually grueling schedule for several years running. The thread brought up the packed itinerary of being called up for the WBC with barely a break after the World Series, as well as his history of elbow surgery, suggesting his slump may stem from more than just simple “form.” At the same time, reactions in the thread are sharply split. Sympathetic voices saying “let him rest” and “don’t push him” exist alongside harsher critics attacking his stats and conduct, saying things like “his attitude is bad” or “he’s done” — and it’s unclear which view is more widely held. His in-game behavior, such as challenging a strike call, was also one of the things that drew mixed reactions. Note that talk of a possible repeat elbow surgery or how he’s regarded within the team is unconfirmed speculation from the thread, not an official statement from the club.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani Still in a Terrible Slump in the Postseason.”

  • Jiro-Style Ramen Shop in Kyoto Barks ‘Number!’ at Customers, Sparks East-vs-West Ramen Feud

    A Kyoto University cooking club posted on X (formerly Twitter) that the moment they walked into the Kyoto branch of Ramen Jiro, a part-time staff assistant barked “Number!” at them — twice. It’s a cue telling customers to line up at the numbered spot taped to the floor, a rule regulars take for granted but one that leaves first-timers baffled. On 5ch, reactions split between those laughing it off as “typical of an authentic Jiro shop” and those questioning what on earth it even meant, and the thread eventually snowballed into a full East-vs-West debate over Tokyo’s rich, heavy Jiro-style ramen versus the broth-forward, lightly seasoned ramen culture still deeply rooted in Kansai.

    1AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:42
    Kyoto University Cooking Club — Follows Back 100% @kyodai_cooking
    The moment I walked into the Kyoto branch of Ramen Jiro, a part-time staff assistant barked "Number!" at me. Twice.
    "Line up at the number on the floor" got abbreviated way too much. Truly an authentic Jiro shop.
    3AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:45
    Well, now you won't mess it up next time — good thing they told you.
    4AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:45
    Oh, so that's what it meant.
    I'd probably just blurt out "1!" on reflex.
    65AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:34
    Re: #4
    You're basically a prisoner as a customer there —
    you're supposed to shout your number in order, starting from 1, as you line up, right?
    7AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:51
    Jiro-style is just bad ramen — a Tokyo thing.
    In western Japan, Jiro-style shops keep opening and going under, over and over.
    17AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:14
    Re: #7
    Re: #11
    But Tenkaippin — a chain that started in Kyoto and is famous for being bad — has managed to hang on in a modest way.
    The one near me always has empty seats, but I guess it survives just because it's a chain.
    In Kansai, where everyone loves light flavors, it probably would've gone under ages ago otherwise.
    56AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:09
    Re: #7
    Didn't Kamukura (a famous Osaka-style ramen chain) proudly open two shops in Ikebukuro, and now both are gone? lol
    8AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:51
    I don't get the point of being so high-and-mighty with customers.
    28AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:49
    Re: #8
    Huh? What are you half-asleep talking about?
    It's the ramen shop that's being high-and-mighty here!
    Although, to be fair, throughout history it's usually the customer who acts superior, not the shop.
    10AnonymousOct 8, 2026 07:53
    Jiro must've transformed into something else for some reason when it crossed Sekigahara (the old battlefield that's a symbolic east-west dividing line in Japan).
    11AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:05
    Isn't Kansai all about light flavors? There's no way they can stomach something like Jiro.
    12AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:06
    Kansai has a dashi-broth culture, so Jiro — where the pork-bone broth isn't properly drawn out — is a tough sell there.
    14AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:11
    It's basically "anyone can make it, no license required" ramen — an amateur's triumph.
    15AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:12
    It's just a ramen shop popular with Keio Mita students that happened to go national.
    20AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:30
    Impressive, really.
    You'd think in this day and age it'd go viral, blow up into a controversy, and get weeded out.
    21AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:30
    Wasn't like this in the old days.
    Guess it just depends on the person working there.
    23AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:39
    Isn't there some kind of screening process when a chain opens a new branch?
    At the very least, you're not supposed to just slap the Jiro name on your shop and call yourself part of the chain without permission.
    So I guess that means the customer service, warts and all, is part of the deal they've signed off on?
    24AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:42
    I've only been to Jiro shops in the Kanto area,
    and I've never had an unpleasant experience at an authentic "chokkei" (direct-lineage) Jiro.
    If anything, the "inspired-by" copycat shops tend to have worse service.
    25AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:44
    Never actually eaten Jiro-style, but from the looks of it, is it like a pork-bone soy sauce broth?
    26AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:44
    Nobody asked, but declaring which region's food is tastier anyway — so typically Kansai.
    Then again, maybe that's just because there are so few options in Kansai that it comes out that way.
    29AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:50
    Strange nobody's tried letting themselves get hit, calling the cops, and cashing in on it.
    61AnonymousOct 8, 2026 11:25
    Re: #29
    Everyone here's just a regular law-abiding citizen.
    Please spare us the professional-grifter mindset.
    30AnonymousOct 8, 2026 08:53
    That's probably because the ramen shop has too little money for it to be worth the trouble, right?
    31AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:19
    In Kyoto, with that whole "ikezu" (passive-aggressive politeness) spirit, you're supposed to at least keep things polite on the surface.
    33AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:27
    Re: #1
    Would be funny if they end up working for the local health department someday.
    35AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:41
    My impression of Jiro-style is that it can't win on taste alone,
    so it just papers over that with mountains of vegetables and toppings.
    37AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:57
    Here come the Kansai folks with a real chip on their shoulder about Tokyo lol.
    Only masochistic addicts go to Jiro — surely you realize that's not representative of Tokyo ramen.
    Kamukura isn't anything special either, but you wouldn't want people calling that representative of Osaka ramen, would you?
    40AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:05
    Re: #37
    Look at you, going off lol
    Not even funny though lolol
    38AnonymousOct 8, 2026 09:58
    Customers could just act high-and-mighty right back, no?
    Or just say you didn't like their tone.
    Posting about it on social media instead is the part I dislike.
    52AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:27
    Re: #38
    Some people who post stuff like this are doing it as a heads-up for others, you know.
    39AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:02
    If you don't like the shop's attitude, just don't go. Only people who can put up with it should bother going.
    41AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:08
    They won't mess it up next time, at least.
    Now they can act like a seasoned regular.
    49AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:19
    Jiro's bad enough as it is, but honestly Kansai ramen in general is just too bad-tasting to begin with.
    51AnonymousOct 8, 2026 10:24
    Re: #49
    Doesn't seem like it'd suit you if you can only handle super-salty ramen.
    Your palate's just salt and MSG (Ajinomoto) anyway.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Ramen Jiro originated in Mita, Tokyo, and is known for its “call” culture — where customers place orders for extras like “large portion/vegetables/garlic” — as well as its distinctive rule of lining up according to numbers marked on tape on the floor. The Kyoto branch is one of the “chokkei” (direct-lineage) shops that inherit techniques directly from the founding store, as distinct from “inspired-by” copycat shops. The thread split over one question: is the brusque service simply part of Jiro’s culture, or is it just poor customer treatment? Defenders argued that “it’s fine once you get used to it” and that “inspired-by shops have worse service,” while critics questioned the staff’s attitude itself. From there, the discussion broadened into the general claim that Kansai’s strong dashi-based, lightly seasoned food culture makes it hard for Jiro-style ramen to take root there — though the case of Tenkaippin, which also originated in Kyoto yet has survived with a rich, heavy flavor, shows that flavor intensity alone doesn’t fully explain the pattern. Note: some replies speculated that the staff member’s behavior was linked to a disability, and others made unsubstantiated claims naming specific companies; those comments have been excluded from this article.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Kyoto University Cooking Club: “The moment I walked into the Kyoto branch of Ramen Jiro, a part-time staff assistant barked ‘Number!’ at me. Twice. Truly an authentic Jiro shop.”“