Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • No “sure thing” souvenir for Osaka? 5ch: “Even Shiroi Koibito is a ripoff”

    On 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo” (Anything Live) board, a thread about how Osaka has no go-to souvenir the way Tokyo has Tokyo Banana spiraled into a full-blown debate. Ginza-dako versus real takoyaki, whether 551’s infamous lines are actually worth it, and the Shiroi Koibito vs. Omoshiroi Koibito copycat wars — clashing opinions poured in from every direction.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:14
    So what am I even supposed to buy?
    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:14
    Real takoyaki beats Ginza-dako any day
    that's Osaka for you
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:15
    Re: #2
    Koga-ryu was genuinely amazing — I finished mine and went straight back for more
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:16
    Re: #2
    Maybe it's because I was born and raised in Osaka, but I still don't get the appeal of Ginza-dako
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:16
    Re: #2
    Maybe it's because I was born and raised in Osaka, but I still don't get the appeal of Ginza-dako
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:15
    Don't bother bringing back 551 buns
    they're only good fresh, not after they've sat around
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:16
    Wait, do Osakans actually think Ginza-dako is "fake" takoyaki lol
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:17
    Re: #14
    lol the Ginza-dako faithful are seething
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:18
    Rikuro's cheesecake
    551 buns
    Tenten-yu's frozen gyoza
    you can grab all of that right at Shin-Osaka station
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:19
    Re: #20
    Pretty sure none of that actually works as a souvenir though
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    Re: #20
    I'd be thrilled if my family brought that home for me, but it doesn't really scream "souvenir," does it?
    Not enough Osaka in it
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:20
    The point is there's nothing as iconic as Tokyo Banana
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    Re: #30
    Wait, Tokyo Banana? Isn't that the one that tastes awful?
    48AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:28
    Stuff like Omoshiroi Koibito ("Funny Lover") or Kuroi Koibito ("Black Lover") — both spin-offs riffing on the Shiroi Koibito cookie brand
    49AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:29
    Re: #48
    And I hate the copycats that piled on after that too — "Dotonbori no Koibito," "Tsutenkaku no Koibito," that whole crowd with no clever twist, just shameless imitations
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:32
    There's Ajari Mochi though
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:34
    Re: #55
    That's from Kyoto
    so is Yatsuhashi
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:39
    Tokyo doesn't really have one either
    I live in Tokyo so I struggle whenever I have to send souvenirs to people elsewhere
    63AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #60
    Hiyoko is fine
    quit overthinking it
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #63
    That thing isn't even tasty though
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #64
    Your taste buds are just broken
    everybody loves Hiyoko
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:43
    Re: #66
    It's dry and bland
    67AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:42
    Don't confuse "something I personally can't stand" with "something other people would love to receive"!!!
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:43
    Re: #67
    You wouldn't give someone something you yourself wouldn't be happy to get, right?
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:44
    Re: #71
    That's just your opinion so far though, no?
    81AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:46
    Re: #73
    I'm saying I'm not gonna hand my friends something I wouldn't want myself
    why should I have to approve of it just because you happen to like it
    and apparently it's a knockoff of a Fukuoka snack to begin with, so knowing that makes me even less inclined to buy it
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:44
    If you want an Osaka souvenir, I recommend this
    it's ridiculously good

    https://kishibura.jp/blog/realize/files/2013/03/DSC_1042.jpg
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:45
    Re: #72
    Looks delicious

    I hate how the lesser-known souvenir sweets are often weirdly over-sweet
    Kyoto, Nagoya, and Hokkaido are the real heavyweights for gift sweets
    I'm so over chinsuko (Okinawan shortbread cookies) at this point
    78AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:45
    Forget the lame stuff — Osaka's fine with Omoshiroi Koibito. Sure it's a Shiroi Koibito knockoff, but it's actually good!!!!!!
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:49
    Rikuro's and 551 aren't even that special but people line up forever for them lol
    standing in a line that long, there's no way it lives up to the hype
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:50
    Re: #91
    551's sold at basically every station anyway, doesn't matter which one
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:50
    Omoshiroi Koibito (so cringe)
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:53
    Re: #95
    By the way, Shiroi Koibito itself is named after a French film called "The White Lovers"
    a lot of people don't know that
    106AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:57
    551's fine I guess, though I don't even think it's that tasty
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:01
    Re: #106
    The filling is very meat-forward, so it feels richer than your average meat bun, but taste-wise it's nothing special
    110AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:59
    The souvenir shop at Osaka Castle was straight-up trash
    wall-to-wall cheap, random ninja merch
    plus a bunch of Naruto and Detective Conan stuff
    113AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:04
    Re: #110
    Well, the castle itself is basically a concrete reconstruction anyway…

    Background and Key Points

    Osaka’s souvenir problem is a real structural quirk of Japanese omiyage culture, not just internet grumbling. Since the 1980s, Japan’s domestic tourism economy has run on the idea that every region needs one instantly recognizable “meibutsu” (famous product) sold almost exclusively at its home train station or airport — Tokyo Banana (Grapestone, launched 1991) is the textbook case, a soft banana-cream cake sold almost nowhere but Tokyo hubs. Hokkaido has Shiroi Koibito, a langue-de-chat cookie made by the Sapporo company Ishiya since 1976 and named after a French film, “Les Amants” (“The Lovers”), released in Japan as Shiroi Koibito-tachi. Osaka, despite being Japan’s second city and a food capital, has never produced a single item with that nationwide instant-recognition — instead it has 551 Horai’s pork buns (best eaten fresh, not shipped), Rikuro’s soufflé cheesecake, and takoyaki, none of which travel or brand as cleanly.

    The thread’s actual fault line wasn’t “does Osaka have a souvenir” — everyone agreed it doesn’t — but whether the existing candidates even qualify as authentic Osaka products at all: posters split hard over Ginza-dako, a takoyaki chain some called fake and others defended, and over Omoshiroi Koibito, which nobody disputed was a direct pun-riff on Shiroi Koibito.

    What’s easy to miss is that Shiroi Koibito is a Hokkaido brand with zero Osaka connection, so Omoshiroi Koibito isn’t a rival original — it’s Osaka gift shops openly cashing in on another region’s trademark cookie. Hiyoko, mentioned as sold at Tokyo Station, likewise originated in Fukuoka. Much of Japan’s “iconic regional souvenir” landscape is built on borrowed branding rather than strict local origin.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo) thread ““Osaka souvenirs” — seriously, there’s genuinely none lol.”

  • Pa League: Marines 2-4 Hawks (8/27) — Hawks’ Kamichitani goes 6 with 2 runs allowed, Shoji/Shuto/Kurihara deliver timely hits, Marines’ Mori surrenders 4 in 5

    In Pacific League action on August 27, SoftBank edged out Lotte 4-2. The thread buzzed over Lotte rookie pitcher Mori, who showed real fire leaving the mound despite allowing 4 runs in 5 innings, and over complaints aimed at manager Saburo for fielding young players in the middle of a pennant race.

    SoftBank  0 4 0  0 0 0  0 0 0|4

    Lotte    0 1 1  0 0 0  0 0 0|2

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:38
    Lotte, please stop trying out rookies against teams in a pennant race.
    We're busting our asses over here, and if you pull losing moves against our rivals, it could cost us the title.
    Seriously, Saburo, think about that.
    Act with the whole league in mind.
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:42
    Re: #40
    Is that really a post worth copy-pasting?
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:39
    Me, a BayStars fan, staring wistfully at the Kamichitani–Yamamoto battery (both are ex-BayStars)
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:07
    Re: #41
    Soto was on the other team today too, lol (another ex-BayStars player)
    69AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:23
    This month it's win, lose, win, lose — back and forth.
    81AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:47
    Re: #69
    Lately they've been more like a .500 team, but overall this month they're 13-8-1 so far — five wins banked above .500.
    83AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:51
    Mori was so fired up leaving the mound after 5 innings
    I figured they must be winning, but they were actually losing
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:18
    Re: #83
    Nah, I'd say he did well
    He's a rookie, after all

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with Nippon Professional Baseball’s structure, the Pacific League (Pa League) is one of NPB’s two six-team circuits, and late August is when the pennant race tightens as teams jockey for the postseason Climax Series spots. SoftBank Hawks and Chiba Lotte Marines are longtime rivals in that hunt, and the “battery” mentioned in the recap is simply the pitcher-catcher pairing — notable here because both Hawks starter Kamichitani and his catcher Yamamoto came up through the Yokohama DeNA BayStars organization, which is why a self-identified BayStars fan chimed in wistfully, and why a third ex-BayStars player, Soto, appearing on the field drew a follow-up comment. Player movement between NPB’s twelve teams via trades and waivers is common enough that fans track these lineages closely.

    The thread’s actual disagreement centers on Lotte’s roster strategy: one poster argued manager Saburo shouldn’t be blooding rookie pitchers like Mori against contenders this late in the race, framing it as unfair to teams still fighting for the pennant, but the reply immediately mocked that take as not worth reposting, showing the board split on whether the complaint had merit. A smaller disagreement follows over Mori himself — one poster found it odd he left the mound fired up after a loss, another defended it as normal rookie spirit.

    What the thread never states is Lotte’s actual month-to-date form: 13-8-1, five games over .500, not the struggling squad the “stop developing rookies” complaint implies — worth knowing before taking that gripe at face value.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Pa League: Marines 2-4 Hawks (8/27) — Hawks’ Kamichitani goes 6 with 2 runs allowed, Shoji/Shuto/Kurihara deliver timely hits, Marines’ Mori surrenders 4 in 5.”

  • Ex-Fuji TV Announcer Nagisa Watanabe’s Job-Hunting Video ‘Industry Criticism’ Sparks Controversy — 5ch: ‘Applies to Literally Everything’

    Former Fuji TV announcer Nagisa Watanabe sparked debate on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board after saying, in a YouTube video offering job-hunting advice, that “people with a strong sense of justice aren’t suited to TV stations” and “there’s all kinds of power harassment and sexual harassment.” Commenters also pointed out her past admission of “20-hour workdays,” and the sense of unease around her now speaking as a kind of job-hunting advisor after leaving the company.

    While some in the thread sympathized with the working conditions she described, others questioned her stance, with comments like “she’s talking with criticism as the whole premise” and “she’s going to stop getting booked.”

    “People with a strong sense of justice aren’t suited to TV stations” — Ex-Fuji announcer Nagisa Watanabe’s “industry criticism” in job-hunting video sparks controversy… Previously admitted to “20-hour workdays,” now unease over her turning into a “job-hunting advisor”

    2026.08.27 20:30

    Nagisa Watanabe, a former announcer who left Fuji TV in August 2024 and now works as a freelancer, has never been short of buzz since her departure — and now comments from her YouTube channel about job hunting are stirring up social media.

    Source: smart-flash.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:44
    Yeah, if you've seen the people inside Fuji TV or TBS, that tracks.
    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:45
    Justice won, so why…?
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:46
    Watanabe seems suited for TV, though.
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:46
    Trash media is trash media (a common jab: masu-gomi, "mass media" + "garbage").
    One fake report and they should lose their broadcast license, no questions asked.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:47
    >>Coming in to work at 2am, then tied up until 10pm for other show recordings, only to come back in the middle of the night again the next day — 20-hour workdays were the norm<<

    Super black company, lol ("black company" = Japanese slang for an exploitative employer).
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:50
    Re: #9
    Yasuzumi: "What kind of soft talk is that — you shouldn't have become an announcer in the first place."
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:33
    Re: #9
    There's probably a break somewhere in there.
    Also, if it's 2am-10pm then back on shift late the next night, that's basically a 20-hour shift followed by 26 hours off — a one-day-on-one-day-off pattern.
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:36
    Re: #9
    The popular ones are probably busy, but isn't losing work the scarier option?
    Plenty of jobs have long hours too, like medical workers.
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:51
    "When people wield their own sense of justice, they can become crueler than anyone." — Takayuki Yagami
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:54
    People like this shouldn't be brought onto job-hunting platforms —
    it feels like she's talking with criticism as the starting point.
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:57
    A decent person wouldn't end up on the side broadcasting biased news.
    It's the ones who want to be famous and rake in money who join the TV crowd.
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:59
    "Strongly principled types aren't suited to being police officers."
    "Strongly principled types aren't suited to organized crime."
    "Strongly principled types aren't suited to showbiz."

    Applies to literally everything.
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #30
    Any job, you end up quitting partway through, huh.
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:34
    Re: #1
    What happened with her being listed in the track record of two announcer schools while saying she never attended one?
    69AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:39
    Re: #60
    Her job hunt for Fuji TV started in the summer of her third year of university, so "at that point" she probably hadn't attended one yet.
    In the follow-up part of the video, it sounds like she was told "you should do this" and ended up joining some "something" aimed at aspiring announcers partway through.
    Not sure about an informal offer, but the official offer came in her fourth year, so I guess the announcer exam process itself just runs long.
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:38
    I don't know of a single field where the strongly principled type made it big.
    Isn't that true even in the religious world?
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:42
    Re: #64
    Even in Christianity, saints are rare characters.
    Most people give in to the devil's temptations, drown in pleasure, and end up on the side wiped out by the flood, right?
    92AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:51
    Re: #69
    Then she should just explain that, you'd think.
    Letting people believe she was still hospitalized when she'd already been discharged, without clarifying — that kind of thing is where I don't feel any sincerity.
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:57
    Re: #92
    You'd get the nuance better by actually watching the video — not pushing you to, though.
    What gets you with "this is exactly her problem" is that, to begin with, it slowly sinks in from the latter half of part two that Fuji TV itself is "that kind of company."
    As for the third-party committee's report, the premise is that you shouldn't swallow any of it whole —
    but the more you listen to her rattle on, the more you think "she cozied up and pandered to a bunch of unhinged people, and it just made her more unhinged in the process."

    That's where I landed, lol.
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:59
    Yeah, I think this is true.
    And with the police too, strongly principled types
    just end up feeling suppressed, so it's better not to join
    the police — it's an organization that's a parade
    of unreasonableness.
    103AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:02
    Re: #100
    Since there's so much sexual and power harassment, if you're not strongly principled, the police and Self-Defense Force become a total free-for-all.
    There's data showing that the more of a jock/meathead type someone is, the more they tend to love bullying.
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:04
    "You're inflexible."
    "You can't take a joke."
    "You're so serious."
    "You can't improvise."
    That's what people say.

    Well, I'm talking about myself, but.
    107AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:04
    Re: #104
    In two kanji, that's just called "incompetent" (無能, munou).
    111AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:09
    Honestly, where's a good workplace for someone who doesn't care about other people at all and sees work as punishment?
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:10
    Re: #111
    "Real Value," "On Mute," "News Post Seven," "Yoga Journal"
    122AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:17
    Re: #111
    Don't people like that usually turn pessimistic about the world and leave secular life behind? Like a sadhu in India. Though you can't survive without giving up vanity and desire. It's tough.
    120AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:14
    Strongly principled people are, without exception, small-minded, aren't they.
    134AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:34
    Re: #120
    People who go around calling others small-minded are basically the bully type, I think.
    127AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:26
    No, back when she was a rookie, she gave off way more of an "I get variety shows" vibe than her fellow new hire Minami Sakuma.

    On Nep League, she'd call out to the senior announcer doing the voice-over in a cutesy voice, like "○○-san~"
    136AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:35
    Re: #127
    She was Fuji TV's top pick as a variety-ready rookie female announcer —
    the type with a cute face who's also pretty blunt and says what she thinks.
    131AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:31
    It's less about a "strong sense of justice" — announcers are mostly fresh grads from good families, so there tend to be a lot of relatively serious, naive people among them.
    If they don't properly keep them separate from entertainers who've clawed their way up on talent and connections and have seen it all, the same kind of incident is just going to happen again.

    Background and Key Points

    Nagisa Watanabe belongs to a very specific Japanese career track: the “announcer” (anaunsā), a generalist broadcaster hired straight out of university through an intensely competitive in-house exam, distinct from freelance TV person850alities. Fuji TV is one of Japan’s five major commercial networks, and in the past two years it has been under unusual scrutiny — the “third-party committee’s report” one poster references is part of the network’s own scandal-driven internal investigation, which has made any former Fuji announcer’s public comments about the company read very differently than they would have a few years ago. The “20-hour workday” claim also taps into “black company” (burakku kigyō) discourse, the widely used shorthand for employers who flout Japan’s work-hour norms — a live social issue since labor-reform laws capped overtime in 2019.

    The thread didn’t split over whether TV stations are dysfunctional; almost everyone agreed harassment and brutal hours are real. It split over Watanabe herself: whether her framing counts as legitimate whistleblowing on an industry that deserves it, or whether a former employee turned YouTuber packaging “industry criticism” as job-hunting content is just monetizing grievance — several posters bluntly predicted it would cost her future bookings.

    What’s easy to misread from outside Japan is the “20-hour” detail: posters familiar with broadcast schedules noted it likely describes an every-other-day rotation (one long shift, one day off), not a nightly occurrence — a distinction the original video apparently glossed over and casual readers would miss entirely. The unresolved side controversy over her denying attending an announcer prep school, despite being listed by two such schools, went unexplained by anyone in the thread beyond speculation about timing.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread ““People with a strong sense of justice aren’t suited to TV stations” “There’s all kinds of power harassment and sexual harassment” — Nagisa Watanabe’s job-hunting video “TV industry criticism” sparks controversy… [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Switch 2 Weekly Sales Drop to Half of the Original Switch’s — 5ch: “It’s Below Everything”

    On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, a thread noting that Switch 2’s weekly sales have fallen to roughly half of the original Switch’s peak sparked a heated, occasionally testy discussion.

    The talk spiraled into comparisons of PS5’s worldwide cumulative sales and Nintendo vs. Sony earnings, with opinions clashing — “it’s hopeless unless they cut the price,” “does Nintendo even plan to do anything about this?”

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    202 Anonymous (Desperate) 2026/08/27 (Thu) 22:19:18.38 ID:70fRnfCI0
    The original Switch's weekly sales record:
    apparently it never dropped below 40,000+ units even during its 2nd-year summer break (July-Aug).
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:40
    Re: #1
    Forget July-August — it's below every single week's sales.
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #15
    Oof 🤦
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:43
    PS5's at 100 million worldwide, after all.

    Meanwhile Switch 2 is completely dead in Europe.
    Japan's starting to look shaky too.
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:46
    Re: #17
    The real PS5 number is 40 million.
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:08
    Re: #17
    So what was PS5's worldwide cumulative total at that same roughly 1-year-2-month mark?
    Don't tell me it's below the now-slumping Switch 2…
    Launched Nov. 2020, and as of March 2021 it was at about 7.8 million worldwide… that's barely selling at all lol
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:57
    Nobody needs consoles anymore, just pull out of the business already.
    Nintendo and Sony should both go all-in on PC and mobile.
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:00
    Re: #27
    Not gonna happen 🤦
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:14
    For some reason everyone's assuming Nintendo won't do anything about this at all.

    Do people really think they'll just sit there twiddling their thumbs going "ugh, it's not selling" forever lol
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:24
    Re: #37
    Wasn't "Raiders" supposed to be their countermeasure?
    It just barely moved any hardware, that's all…
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:15
    Re: #38
    Nice.
    That's peak echo-chamber energy right there.
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:18
    Re: #40
    Put more bluntly, nothing will work unless they revise the price.
    That's the "Ambassador effect" for you (a nod to the 3DS's early price-cut compensation program).
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:19
    Re: #43
    Price isn't really the issue though?
    PS5, which is cheaper than Switch 2, isn't selling either.
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:19
    Re: #45
    Already sold.

    100 million worldwide.
    49AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:20
    Sony's saying PS5 has already hit its adoption ceiling, so from here on they'll only set "rational" pricing.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:21
    Re: #47
    Gave up.

    Per Re: #49.
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:21
    Re: #49
    Software's not selling though, is it?
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:21
    Re: #50
    Ah, that's a shame.
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:22
    Re: #52
    Can't refute that, huh!!
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:23
    Re: #54
    Why would "I gave up" need a rebuttal lol
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:24
    Re: #55
    Huh? Wasn't your whole point "Nintendo's obviously going to break out of this slump!"?
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:21
    So basically, the one who's cornered right now is Nintendo!!
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:23
    Re: #53
    Isn't it distribution that's cornered? They've been screwing up nonstop ever since the bomb threat.
    59AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:23
    Re: #51
    Sony's given up on selling software and switched to a slash-and-burn model — making money off online fees and PS Plus instead.
    It's profitable now, but there's no future in it.
    65AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:25
    Re: #59
    Meanwhile Nintendo can't even pull off the slash-and-burn model, because the hardware isn't selling lol
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:26
    Re: #60
    So the premise here is that Nintendo will never make any more software and will never touch pricing except to raise it, right?

    And you replied "yep, that's right" to that — so isn't this conversation already over?
    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:27
    Re: #63
    Even counting Nintendo's low-overhead, high-margin income like movies, USJ, and Pokémon Centers, they're still losing to Sony's gaming division alone lol
    69AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:28
    Re: #68
    So why does that mean giving up on Japan lol
    Use those profits to make Japanese users happy instead lol
    76AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:30
    Re: #69
    They're using that money to make stuff like Concord lolol
    Or so I hear lolol
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:32
    Re: #76
    I'd get it on some other country's board, but seeing people cheerlead Sony's earnings on a Japanese forum just looks ridiculous.
    92AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:38
    Re: #90
    That's correct.
    This is happening because you're running away from the argument.
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:40
    Re: #92
    Isn't that for everyone else to judge, not you?
    98AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:41
    Re: #95
    Re: #97

    Just booted up my PC, so I'll take as many rebuttals as you've got.
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:42
    Re: #98
    The conclusion's already been reached lol
    I didn't reply because I wanted to argue.

    I haven't even denied anything, to begin with.
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:42
    Re: #98

    91: Anonymous (Desperate) 2026/08/27 (Thu) 23:38:24.30 ID:EcZv56b50
    Re: #1
    W-H-A-T I-S "Kobon"???

    Background and Key Points

    Switch 2’s launch price was ¥49,980, and Nintendo positioned it as a premium successor to the original Switch, which shipped in March 2017 at ¥29,980 and went on to sell over 150 million units worldwide, making it one of the best-selling consoles in history. The original Switch’s weekly sales famously never dipped below roughly 40,000 units even during its second summer, a low-demand season for Japan (many households defer big purchases to year-end and new-fiscal-year gift cycles). “Kobon” in the thread title is shorthand for a “small box” bundle/discount promotion Nintendo ran to try to reinvigorate sales — the original poster’s joke is that even that bump wasn’t enough to keep Switch 2 above the old console’s worst weeks.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t whether Switch 2 sales have slowed — everyone agrees they have — but whether that decline is a crisis unique to Nintendo or simply the industry-wide new normal for console hardware. One camp treats PS5’s 100 million cumulative figure as proof Sony is thriving and Nintendo is uniquely struggling; others push back by pointing out PS5 had barely sold 7.8 million units at the same point in its lifecycle, which undercuts any apples-to-apples comparison. A second dispute is over what “fixing” the problem would even look like: price cuts, more software, or accepting a Sony-style pivot to service revenue.

    What’s likely to confuse outside readers is that PS5’s 100 million figure spans nearly six years globally, while Switch 2 is barely a year old — comparing raw cumulative totals across such different console ages is misleading, and no one in the thread actually adjusts for that. Also uncorrected: Nintendo’s hardware margins and revenue mix (Pokémon, theme parks, movies) differ structurally from Sony’s software/services-driven model, so “losing” to Sony’s gaming division on paper doesn’t necessarily mean Nintendo’s console strategy has failed.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “[Sad News] Switch 2’s trend in Japan: despite the “Subura Kobon Effect,” it’s back down to half of the original Switch 😭“.

  • Is Capitalism Unfair? 5ch Debate: ‘Ohtani Isn’t Cheating, But He Got Lucky’

    A thread titled “Capitalism—when you really think about it, something’s off” appeared on 5ch’s “Whatever Live” board (なんでも実況G), sparking a debate that began with frustration over how the rich monopolize wealth.

    The discussion wound through the historical background of neoliberalism and totalitarianism before eventually landing on the question of whether effort or luck determines success — with one counterargument citing Shohei Ohtani as an example.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:07
    It's basically a lawless zone, isn't it
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:10
    It's messed up that rich people can just hoard all the money.
    If this were a video game, it'd be a certified trash game.
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:11
    Re: #4
    Can't be helped — humanity hasn't found a better system than capitalism yet.
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:16
    I think compensation should fundamentally be a reward for labor.
    A system where you can rake in insane amounts of money just from investing is broken.
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:17
    Re: #8
    If that were the case, no capitalists would bother creating jobs for people to work in. And if the government did that instead, that's just a planned economy.
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:22
    What you guys actually want isn't capitalism or communism — it's just egoism where only you benefit.
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:23
    Re: #16
    Exactly that, basically.
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:26
    Neoliberalism is the one thing Japan should never have let in.
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:37
    Re: #22
    Japan's already been neoliberal for quite a while now.
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:28
    Wait, who even came up with totalitarianism in the first place?
    This is basically an ideology for manufacturing armies.
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:31
    Re: #24
    Fascism, a totalitarian ideology, was actually devised by an Italian communist.
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:32
    So totalitarianism was an extension of communism after all.
    Thanks (Kansai slang for "cheers").
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:07
    Re: #27 Re: #28
    Nazism is what you get when you add nationalism and xenophobia into the mix to tighten control — but the two get mixed up pretty easily.
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:36
    On the flip side, if everyone's equal like in socialism, the economy doesn't really develop.
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:37
    Re: #32
    As long as you've got the basics — food, clothing, shelter — plus some free time, who cares about the economy?
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:57
    Re: #32
    By that logic, 98% of people under capitalism only contribute to 2% of its growth, so it'd be "correct" for that 2% to monopolize the wealth.
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:40
    Why don't you guys just become capitalists yourselves?
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:45
    Re: #42
    The risk is way too big, so most people never even consider it.
    Also, just having this space where I can post with everyone here is enough for me.
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:44
    A lot of the people denying capitalism probably think if the world or the system changed, they'd suddenly rise to the top — total "isekai protagonist" delusion (a jab referencing wish-fulfillment web-novel tropes).
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:48
    It's because you're not doing well yourself.
    There's no system out there where you'd succeed.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:57
    Re: #45
    You're basically talking to a mirror there lol
    No need to spell it out in a reply lmao
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:50
    Looked up "loser cow" and the closest thing seems to be Chinese internet slang "niúmǎ" (牛马, "ox-horse").
    It's a self-deprecating term used by workers exploited under harsh capitalist working conditions.
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:04
    The fact that it can't stop itself even when there's a cliff right in front of it is a real design flaw.
    And the fact there's no decent alternative to it either — it's just garbage.
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:05
    Re: #57
    Is it really that much of a cliff, though?
    I don't have any complaints.
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:05
    Re: #53
    Huh? Wasn't that comment directed at me?
    Guess I misread it then.
    My bad.
    63AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:06
    Re: #58
    Just look at who I replied to…
    82AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Re: #80
    Without investment, corporations wouldn't even exist in the first place.
    Then workers wouldn't have companies to work for, right?
    85AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:28
    Re: #82
    I don't think that proves investing counts as labor, though.
    87AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:29
    Re: #82
    What you're saying is an extreme take.
    I'm not denying that corporations should exist at all.
    88AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:29
    Re: #85
    You're using your brain to pick where to invest, taking on risk, and putting your assets on the line — that's basically labor already.
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:31
    Re: #88
    Then what exactly is "unearned income" supposed to mean?
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:35
    Re: #88
    But you don't always get compensated for it, do you? Regular labor means getting paid for the time you put in and the work you do — and since investing doesn't guarantee that in the same way, investing isn't labor.
    107AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:51
    Isn't it fine if there's inequality?
    I don't get why everyone gets so bothered by things not being equal.
    Being born into a rich family is just lucky.
    What's wrong with that?
    114AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:55
    Re: #107
    Of course people build up resentment when they lose out due to luck that no amount of skill could overcome.
    119AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:58
    Re: #114
    That's what I don't get.
    A huge part of Ohtani's success comes from being born with that physique — so does that mean you think Ohtani is "cheating" and it's unfair?
    124AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:02
    Re: #119
    He's not cheating, but he did get lucky.
    127AnonymousAug 27, 2026 23:03
    Re: #119
    Sure, Ohtani got lucky with his physique, but nobody complains because he put in the effort to make the most of it.
    Being born rich, though, means starting on easy mode with an advantage and zero effort involved.
    Lumping those two together doesn't make sense.
    110AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:53
    It's fine for people who put in effort to earn more.
    The problem is that, as things stand, plenty of benefits also flow to people regardless of whether they actually worked for them.
    There's a gap between someone who happened to be born in a rich country and someone born in a poor one.
    There's also a gap between someone who job-hunted during a boom and someone who did it during a recession.
    And a parent's financial power has a huge influence on their child too.
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:55
    Re: #110
    So what exactly is wrong with that?
    "Equality is the ideal" is just a nice-sounding platitude — what are you, in elementary school?
    120AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:58
    Re: #110
    That's exactly why Gandhi affirmed the caste system.
    Society, in whatever form it takes, is fundamentally a mass of unfairness and inequality.
    Saying "it's a status given by God" is the simplest explanation — after all, being God, it's beyond human comprehension.

    Background and Key Points

    5ch’s “Whatever Live” (なんでも実況G) is one of the platform’s high-traffic real-time chat boards, where threads move fast and drift far from their original topic — exactly what happened here, as a gripe about wealth hoarding spiraled into potted history of fascism and Gandhi within a hundred posts. The neoliberalism tangent has real weight in Japan: since the Koizumi-era reforms of the early 2000s, labor deregulation and the shift toward performance pay have been blamed for widening inequality and the rise of irregular (non-lifetime) employment, so “neoliberalism ruined Japan” is a stock grievance on boards like this one, not a one-off complaint.

    The actual fault line in the thread isn’t capitalism versus communism — it’s whether unearned advantage is morally different depending on its source. Posters largely agreed that Ohtani’s genetic gifts don’t make his success illegitimate, because he still worked to convert that potential into results; the disagreement was over whether inherited wealth deserves the same pass, since it confers advantage without requiring any effort at all. That’s a narrower, more interesting argument than the “is capitalism broken” framing the thread opened with.

    What’s likely to trip up outside readers is the fascism tangent: Mussolini did start as a socialist before founding fascism, but calling fascism a straightforward “extension of communism” collapses a much messier ideological break that the thread never untangles from Nazism’s separate ethnonationalist roots. Readers should also know Ohtani is invoked here purely as a shared cultural reference for “talent as luck” — the thread isn’t actually engaging with his career, just borrowing his name as shorthand.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Whatever Live) thread “Capitalism—when you really think about it, something’s off.”

  • A Gentle Push for First-Time Bathhouse Goers: 5ch’s Advice — ‘Just Say Konchikuwa and Leave Your Money’

    On a thread in 5ch’s Newsspeed VIP board, the conversation kicked off with the ASCII-art character “Manbo” gently walking a nervous first-timer through the proper etiquette for visiting a public bathhouse (sento).

    From there the topic wandered all over the place — whether it’s okay to eat dinner leftovers, what to do with extra mapo tofu, and even how to eat avocado with wasabi soy sauce or vinegar — turning into a lively grab-bag of everyday life chat.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:19
    (´・ω・`)The Road to the Bathhouse ♨
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:20
    (´・ω・`)It's Manbo. Bath's cancelled ♨ today, I'm afraid.
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:22
    Re: #5
    (´・ω・`)Go back to Liarsville
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:21
    (´・ω・`)I want to make my debut at the neighborhood bathhouse
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:22
    Re: #6
    (´・ω・`)First step is putting together your bath kit
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:24
    (´・ω・`)I'll have Manbo's buddy take a shower.
    つ🐘と
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:25
    Re: #12
    (´・ω・`)Give it back
    つ🐘と彡
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:26
    ⊂(´・ω・`)⊃Road closed
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:26
    Re: #14
    (´・ω・`)Lying's not nice
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:27
    Re: #11
    (´・ω・`)Do neighborhood bathhouses also use ticket vending machines, like the spa-sento places?
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:28
    Re: #16
    (´・ω・`)You pay at the entrance — though at my usual spot I just buy a discount ticket book
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:27
    ಠ⁠ᴥ⁠ಠ Behold Manbo, who carries an elephant everywhere
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:28
    Re: #17
    (´・ω・`)🗿🐘🤖We're always together
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:27
    (´・ω・`)And here I was just going to spray water from my trunk for a bath
    つ🐘と
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:29
    Re: #18
    (´・ω・`)Use this mammoth instead
    つ🐘彡
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:28
    (ง ´•ω•`)วGood evenin', Manbo-style! Uh! Hah!
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:29
    Re: #21
    ₍₍ (ง´・ω・`)ว ⁾⁾Great-luck Manbo, Uh! Hah! (riffing on 'daikichi,' the best fortune-slip result)
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:30
    ( ・᷄ὢ・᷅ )Good evening
    つ💩🐘と
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:31
    Re: #26
    (´・ω・`)Take that home with you
    つ🐘と彡
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:32
    Re: #19
    (´・ω・`)So you pay the attendant at the front desk to get in?
    I'm nervous
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:34
    Re: #28
    (´・ω・`)You just casually say 'konchikuwa~' and set your money down, that's it
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:34
    I can't eat dinner leftovers anymore
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:34
    Re: #30
    (´・ω・`)There you go being fussy again
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:36
    Re: #31
    Of course I can't eat it if it ends up in a dish I don't like — it's contaminated
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:35
    Re: #29
    (´・ω・`)Don't they give newcomers the stink-eye?
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:36
    Re: #32
    (´・ω・`)Nobody stares — they just say things like 'hey there~' or 'evening~'
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:36
    (´・∀・`)It was my day off and I ended up doing nothing at all
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:37
    Re: #33
    (´・ω・`)This guy's a fake who got their info from the backup board (an alternate site users flock to when 5ch itself goes down)
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:38
    Re: #35
    (´・ω・`)It's as intimidating as barging uninvited into a café packed with regulars 😭
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:38
    Re: #37
    (´・ω・`)That's not true at all
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:38
    Re: #34
    (´・ω・`)What do you do when a disaster or emergency hits?
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:39
    Re: #38
    Just eat whatever's still edible
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:39
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:40
    Re: #41
    (´・ω・`)Oh! It's Indo-Nepal Curry Guy! (slang for Japan's ubiquitous Indian-Nepalese curry joints)
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:49
    Re: #57
    Nobody eats it, so it just becomes food waste
    63AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:50
    Re: #60
    (´・ω・`)Why not have someone at home eat it tomorrow, mon? (a pun stretching 'isn't that fine' into 'Jamaica')
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:53
    Re: #63
    A lot of people can't handle spicy food, so not many want to eat the leftover mapo tofu
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:56
    Re: #70
    (´・ω・`)Nothing to be done about it this time, but why not hide that dish away or just toss it, mon?
    88AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:07
    Re: #70
    (´・ω・`)Let's turn it into mapo curry
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:18
    Re: #92
    (´・ω・`)Wasabi soy sauce is great too! Mashing it into a paste with a spoon or fork and seasoning it with ponzu and wasabi is delicious as well 🥑 — 'faux guacamole'
    98AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:20
    Re: #95
    (´・ω・`)Ooh, sounds tasty — I'll give it a try 🥑
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:22
    Re: #98
    (´・ω・`)Like Zabaa-san said, using vinegar well lets you cut back on salt while still getting a satisfying, delicious flavor
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:23
    Re: #100
    (´・ω・`)Vinegar! Thanks, Manbo — thanks, Zabaa
    105AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:24
    Re: #100
      __,.,,_
    ./ *・ω・ヽLemon juice, olive oil, and black pepper are great too
    Zero sodium at all

    Background and Key Points

    Just Say Konchikuwa and Leave Your Money: what’s behind 5ch’s bathhouse thread

    The neighborhood sento (public bathhouse) is a fixture that dates back to Edo-period Japan, when private baths were rare and communal bathing filled the gap. Even now, with home bathtubs standard in nearly every household, sento survive as an affordable option—usually a few hundred yen a visit—often kept alive by regulars who buy discount ticket books (kaisūken) rather than pay per visit, and by loyalty to a specific neighborhood spot rather than any bathhouse in general. That distinction matters here: the thread’s advice about “just buy a discount ticket book” versus paying per visit at the front desk reflects two different, perfectly normal ways longtime users engage with these places, not a sign of confusion.

    The actual point of friction in the thread wasn’t the etiquette itself—posters agreed fairly quickly that you simply greet the attendant and pay, no formality required—but whether a first-timer would be treated as an outsider. One user compared it to walking uninvited into a café full of regulars, and was immediately rebutted by someone insisting no one actually stares. That gap between anticipated awkwardness and reported reality is the crux of the exchange.

    What’s easy to miss if you’re not familiar with sento culture is that these bathhouses are often run as small family businesses with a front-desk system called bandai, where the attendant can usually see (or historically could see, depending on layout) into both the men’s and women’s changing areas from a raised central booth—a detail that explains why the “just pay and go” transaction feels so casual to regulars: the attendant’s job is fundamentally about watching over the whole building, not scrutinizing new customers.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and summaries of the 5ch (Newsspeed VIP) thread「(´・ω・`)The Thread of One Walking the Off-Road Alone」.

  • “I Want to Know the Truth About My Birth”: Former Hikaru Genji Member Mikio Osawa’s Son Demands New DNA Test 13 Years After ‘0% Paternity’ Report

    It has come to light that Reiji (29), the eldest son of former Hikaru Genji member Mikio Osawa (57), is once again demanding a DNA test from his father to confirm the truth about his birth — an issue reported on 13 and a half years ago as a “0% probability of paternity.” In a 2015 court ruling, the absence of a parent-child relationship was recognized based on Article 772, Paragraph 2 of the Civil Code and DNA test results, but Reiji claims that “the document I secretly saw when I was 16 said the paternity probability was 99.9%,” creating a discrepancy. On 5ch, comments sparked debate, with people saying things like “That’s weak grounds to overturn a court ruling” and “He should just ask his mother directly.”

    “Legally, we’re not recognized as father and son, but people still tell me everywhere I go that I look like my dad. I got married four years ago, so I have a wife now, and I’ll turn 30 next January. I’ve been jerked around by my relationship with my parents this whole time, and even now, the fallout from the old scandal often makes it hard for me to be at work.

    The reason I’ve come to talk about where things stand now — even if it means cutting ties with my family — is that I wanted to clearly state my feelings toward my parents in my own words.”

    So says Reiji (29), eldest son of Mikio Osawa (57), former member of Hikaru Genji.

    Source: jisin.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:01
    Why not just ask the mother?
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:07
    Re: #2
    Exactly. If he really wants to know who his real father is, that's the only way.
    173AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #2
    "Even I don't know!"
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #1
    They're not naming him, but he kind of looks like one of the other Hikaru Genji members…
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    Re: #5
    Yeah, he does kind of give off that vibe.
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:07
    The court already ruled there's no parent-child relationship.
    There's no way they could've faked that.
    Since the whole case hinged on the parent-child relationship, they must have done their own testing.
    No court would hand down a ruling just taking an outside test result at face value.
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Re: #15
    Right.
    The court's judgment is more reliable than either side's claims, so if he wants to overturn it now, the only way is to file his own lawsuit.

    The fact that he's whining to the media instead of doing that makes his story hard to trust too.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:11
    Apparently Japan's rate of "cuckoo-nest" births (paternity fraud) is around 5%. That works out to one or two kids in every school class.
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:18
    Re: #21
    Re: #23
    Don't just say "apparently" — show me real numbers.
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:12
    This case is what made "cuckoo-nest" mothers (paternity fraud) a nationwide talking point.
    Apparently among the urban poor it's as high as 6% of kids — that's some modern-day darkness right there.
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:12
    Calling her "Ms. A" lol
    Wasn't she a celebrity?
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:14
    Mikio Osawa: "I'll support him wholeheartedly, no different from my daughter" — birthday photo with 25-year-old eldest son

    If they were still getting along this well back then, I figure he could just take another DNA test.
    That would probably satisfy the son too.
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:17
    Re: #29
    But apparently there was domestic violence,
    so who knows if they were really "getting along"…
    Maybe the kid was just putting up with it this whole time.
    And sending it off overseas for testing sounds sketchy too.
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    Re: #1
    > In November 2015, Osawa's claim was accepted, with Article 772, Paragraph 2 of the Civil Code and the DNA test results being the deciding factors.

    Both sides had lawyers and went through an actual trial to get that result…
    Seems pretty weak to overturn it with just "actually, I secretly looked at some documents when I was 16."
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:23
    Re: #66
    Maybe his mind broke somewhere along the way and rewrote the facts in his head.
    If the compulsive-lying thing is true too, then it's all exactly as Osawa says.
    It's all just speculation in the end, but it's sad.
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:23
    Re: #66
    Way too weak.
    The mother won't even agree to meet him — that pretty much confirms it was paternity fraud.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    Why is Kitajima's name being kept out of this lol
    She's the one responsible here lol
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    Why's the eldest son named "Reiji" — that's got "zero" baked into it?
    Shouldn't he be "Ichiro" (a name that literally means "first son")?
    128AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:32
    Re: #74
    It's "the one that comes after zero," so that makes him number one, see.
    89AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:25
    Man, this whole thing is such a mess… Someone should really contact the mother and ask her about the birth too.
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:28
    Re: #89
    Can't reach her.
    92AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:25
    This was already settled in court —
    did the judge misread the test results or something?
    Osawa's already living a life apart from yours,
    so seriously, just let it go.
    118AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:31
    Re: #92
    There was that ruling not long ago ordering a woman who abandoned three kids from paternity fraud to pay damages.
    Feels like that's what's dredging up old cases like this one.
    But yeah, seriously, someone should tell him to let it go.
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Growing the beard out is fine, but at least trim it a little lol
    134AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:33
    Re: #94
    Better than going bald 😠
    96AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    "After that, when Dad and his new wife were out, I secretly searched the room and found the test documents. Where it listed Dad's and my names in the alphabet, it said 'paternity probability 99.9%.' I thought, 'well, of course,' closed the file, and put it back, relieved."

    Wait, huh?
    So Osawa really was the father?
    Then Mai Kitajima isn't the villain here?
    163AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:39
    Re: #96
    If that were true, there's no way Kitajima's side would've stayed quiet.
    135AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:33
    It'd be easy if they could just get Kitajima to name the candidates,
    but it seems like we won't hear it until she's on her deathbed.
    150AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:36
    Re: #135
    Everyone already knows, lol. Don't complain if you're not interested.
    The son and the guy who's rumored to be the father look way too alike — it was obvious.
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:35
    Even if it was an orgy, it's not like some random stranger was in on it.
    154AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:37
    Did you actually read what's behind that link?
    It says something completely different from what I thought I knew…

    If the son is right… then Osawa is the liar.
    If Osawa is right… then the son is the liar.

    Seriously… what is even going on…
    162AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:39
    Re: #154
    However you slice it, the son's the liar here…
    174AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:41
    Re: #154
    The court already ruled that no parent-child relationship exists.

    Background and Key Points

    I want to know the truth about my birth: former Hikaru Genji member Mikio Osawa’s son demands new DNA test 13 years after “0% paternity” report.

    The background here is the Article 772 dispute this case became famous for. Article 772 of Japan’s Civil Code is the legal provision that presumes any child born to a married woman is her husband’s, regardless of biology — historically used to prevent children from being registered as illegitimate, but it also meant men had very limited ability to contest paternity in court. Osawa’s 2015 case was widely covered in Japan precisely because he successfully overturned that presumption using DNA evidence, at a time when “paternity fraud” (known colloquially in Japanese as *kakko*, or “cuckoo-nest” children, referencing the bird that lays eggs in other nests) was becoming a bigger public talking point. The 5-6% paternity-fraud estimates cited in the thread circulate widely in Japanese media discussions of this topic, though posters themselves note these figures lack a clear, citable source.

    The thread’s actual fault line is not “was Osawa cheated on” but whether Reiji’s account is credible enough to reopen a matter a court already settled. Posters largely treat the 2015 ruling — reached with lawyers on both sides — as far more reliable than a memory of a document glimpsed at age 16, and several suggest that if Reiji is serious, the proper channel is a fresh lawsuit, not a media appeal.

    What the thread never addresses is why Reiji can’t simply request his own DNA test now as an adult, independent of the mother or a court order — commercial paternity testing doesn’t require either party’s cooperation to initiate on his own sample. That option is conspicuously absent from a discussion otherwise focused on who is lying.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Sokuho+) thread ““I Want to Know the Truth About My Birth”: Former Hikaru Genji Member Mikio Osawa’s Son — 13 Years After the “0% Paternity” Report… The “Desperate Reason” He’s Demanding a New DNA Test from His Father [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Yusuke Murata Reveals His Own Son Was the Model for One-Punch Man’s New Chapter Cover — 5ch: ‘That Art Skill Is Legit’

    Yusuke Murata, the illustrator of One-Punch Man, revealed on his own X account that the model for the cover art of the latest chapter — Chapter 283, published in Tonari no Young Jump — was his own son, 19-year-old bodybuilder Keisuke Murata. The reveal sparked a stir online after side-by-side photos showed the silhouette matching the cover art perfectly, while on 5ch users both praised the son’s physique and lamented the story changes unique to the Murata-drawn version of the manga.

    8/27 (Thu) 19:40

    Keisuke Murata, a bodybuilder and the eldest son of One-Punch Man illustrator Yusuke Murata, has caused a stir after revealing that his own physique served as the model for the cover art of the manga’s latest chapter.

    On August 27, Keisuke Murata posted on his X account, “Actually, I was the model — and reference material — for the new chapter’s cover art.” He posted the Chapter 283 cover art, published that same day in Tonari no Young Jump, side by side with a photo of himself posing with his back turned to the camera. From his broadly spread back to the contours of his legs, the silhouette in the photo lines up perfectly with the manga panel.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:49
    Funny that Murata's son didn't go into art himself
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:38
    Re: #5
    Growing up watching how brutal the mangaka life is, it's normal to want to avoid it.
    Besides, with his dad having already made bank, the right move is to chase whatever he wants without fear of failure.
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:51
    I heard Murata has a bad reputation among One-Punch Man readers?
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:53
    Re: #7
    His plotting has always been catastrophically weak,
    and he keeps making clumsy changes to the story on top of it.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:22
    Re: #7
    Something about it feels off compared to the original, but setting that aside, he keeps going back and rewriting past chapters over and over.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:52
    If anything he looks more like Kurobikari (a One-Punch Man antagonist) —
    shave his head bald and there'd be zero disconnect.
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:52
    It's kind of grotesque, not cool at all
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:53
    Maybe I'm the only one who's noticed, but One-Punch Man might actually be ripping off Anpanman (the classic kids' superhero)
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Re: #12
    Should've just honestly called it 'One-Punch-Chi Man' — did the author really think this version was funnier?
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:53
    Do bodybuilders actually make money?
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:54
    Re: #13
    It's a rich man's hobby.
    The top guys do land sponsors though.
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:54
    He's a bodybuilder, but the kid can really draw too
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:55
    Not Murata, but ONE's latest series Versus is doing the exact same thing in the end —
    it's just one specially-powered strongman after another showing up to get knocked down.
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:58
    Re: #17
    Isn't that basically every battle manga though…
    63AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:46
    Re: #17
    Not much point nitpicking a gag manga over that
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:56
    Isn't Murata the guy who keeps getting caught up in online controversies?
    Is his reputation really that good?
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:02
    If this is allowed then Hisashi Eguchi should be allowed too (the illustrator known for his own past scandals)
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:05
    Do guys who bodybuild actually get popular with women?
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:05
    Why does the Murata version keep getting criticized? I think it's plenty entertaining.
    Is all the 'no, that's not right' rewriting really just because of outside noise?
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:26
    Re: #28
    Because the original is a hundred times more interesting, yet he keeps making needless changes to it.
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:51
    Re: #28
    Same as how Takako Matsushima got praised for her Frozen dub while May J. got dragged for the theme song
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:06
    But bodybuilders end up with diabetes pretty easily too, don't they
    — guess it can't be helped since they cram down so many carbs.
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:06
    Re: #22
    If you actually read it you'll see there's no rules to the fights with this guy —
    psychics, kaiju, aliens, anything goes, it's just an incoherent mess of a battle.
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:16
    Re: #31
    I got the feeling Versus was made basically for the readers who build strength-ranking charts for One-Punch Man and argue endlessly about them online —
    like the author thought, 'fine then, I'll write something specifically designed for you all to fight over rankings.'
    The occult, scheming, Mob Psycho-style stuff he's doing instead over in Bug Ego.
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:07
    Wasn't this the kid he used to bike to and from kindergarten back in the Eyeshield 21 days?
    He's really grown up.
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:07
    He should've just stuck to the original story.
    I stopped buying the tankobon because of it.
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:17
    Re: #33
    Same here.
    He injects way too much unnecessary, weird ego into it.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:01
    Re: #33
    Same for me.
    Seeing Garou fighting all cheerful like that, I thought 'that's not him' and dropped the Murata version.
    Still looking forward to the original though.
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:13
    Retconning a whole storyline he'd already progressed through and starting over is absolute trash.
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:07
    Isn't ONE the one writing the storyboards/script?
    Tailored for Jump's audience?
    87AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #73
    He's probably writing the broad outline, but given how much Murata rewrites things and throws in GIF animations,
    there must be a lot of Murata-added changes.
    81AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:25
    Can we just pretend Blast never happened?
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:23
    Re: #81
    Seriously can't forgive him for revealing Blast before the original manga did.
    85AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:58
    Re: #1
    The art skill is legit though
    86AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:01
    Re: #85
    That's an outdated art style at this point

    Background and Key Points

    Yusuke Murata’s One-Punch Man is not a single manga but a redraw: ONE created and still updates the original story as a free webcomic, while Murata has produced a heavily reworked, illustrated version serialized in Tonari no Young Jump since 2012 — the version most anime watchers actually know. Murata previously found fame drawing Eyeshield 21 with writer Riichiro Inagaki, which is why one poster remembers Keisuke as a toddler from that era. “Blast” is a powerful, long-teased mystery character in the series; the complaint about Murata “revealing” him early refers to Murata’s version foreshadowing or depicting story beats — including Blast and Garou’s characterization — ahead of or differently from ONE’s original telling, which is the recurring point of friction between the two versions.

    The thread doesn’t really split over the cover art itself — everyone agrees the physique match and rendering are impressive. It splits over what that admiration says about Murata as an adapter: several posters use the occasion to relitigate his tendency to retcon and rewrite already-published chapters, seeing his obvious artistic talent as separate from, even in tension with, his handling of plot fidelity to ONE’s story.

    What outsiders may not realize is that this is a long-running, well-documented tension in the OPM fandom specifically because two “canonical” tellings coexist — most Western readers only encounter Murata’s version and don’t know a leaner original exists. Also unaddressed in the thread: competitive bodybuilding in Japan is a small, largely amateur scene (JBBF-affiliated), so Keisuke’s path is unusual precisely because it isn’t the lucrative one some posters imply.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Was the Model for Yusuke Murata’s One-Punch Man Cover Art His 19-Year-Old Bodybuilder Son? The Stunning Physique That Became ‘Living Reference Material’.”

  • Hanshin’s Sakamoto Blasts Go-Ahead Two-Run Homer (No. 9) to Down Chunichi, Snapping Dragons’ Win Streak

    Hanshin came from behind to beat Chunichi 4-3, snapping the Dragons’ winning streak. The go-ahead blow was Seishiro Sakamoto’s ninth home run of the season, a two-run shot in the 8th inning. On 5ch, fans lined up to praise Sakamoto’s performance, while others called it an “ugly win” built on sacrifice bunts, and some questioned Chunichi’s bullpen management and pinch-runner decisions.

    Hanshin 1 0 0  0 0 1  0 2 0 |4

    Chunichi 1 0 2  0 0 0  0 0 0 |3

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    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:38
    Sakamoto the Awakened (a pun on his name Seishirō, rewritten here as 覚醒士郎/"Kakusei-shirō" — lit. "Awakened-shirō")
    Doris already gives me enough scares, please stop
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:38
    Seriously relieved Abe wasn't in there at the end
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:38
    Hanshin's win was an ugly win
    Chikamoto gets on → bunt him over → move him along → clutch hit
    Even Tsuchida looked exasperated
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:39
    Has Hanshin had a double-digit home run guy since Yano?
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:39
    Hanshin actually pulled that win off, huh
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:06
    Re: #11
    That's partly because they took out one of Chunichi's batters with a hit-by-pitch yesterday
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:39
    Hanshin's pennant is basically locked up now
    If it were a 0.5-game lead I wouldn't be sure, but at 1.5 games Hanshin's like 99.9% favored over the Giants
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:40
    Re: #17
    They've got a backlog of rained-out games piling up, so pitcher usage is gonna be brutal
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:39
    Sakamoto's homers are always so clutch
    Gotta be MVP of the month
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:40
    [Hashimoto] Not only stops the win streak, but wipes out Kanamaru's win too
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:41
    Even after blowing that many scoring chances
    Guess that's the power of one swing
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:41
    Wish Orix had gotten Kanamaru
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:48
    Re: #33
    No way he should join a team that wrecks pitchers like that
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:41
    Tora-ho! Sakamoto's the best! (a Hanshin Tigers fan cheer) Thought we were about to drop 3 straight to the bottom-feeder Dragons ("Dobegons" — a jab combining "last place" with "Dragons")
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:41
    Yeah, I want Motoyama locked in at shortstop regardless of the opposing pitcher's handedness
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:41
    Must've done something really bad in a past life, huh, Yume-chan?
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:42
    How many times is Fujikawa gonna get bailed out by his players lol
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:42
    The hare that'll be 4.5 games back in three days (tortoise-and-hare reference)
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:42
    Thought today would be the toughest game, but this was unexpected
    Well done, Sakamoto
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:42
    Thank god for Sakamoto
    Motoyama, Sakamoto, and Kudo are so valuable — they never get swept up in the flow of the game
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:44
    Hashimoto giving up that homer with such dynamic flair
    Feel like I see that a lot, even rooting against him
    65AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:47
    A pinch runner for Hosokawa…?
    Even Gondo looked exasperated
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:01
    Re: #65
    Exactly this
    Pinch-hitting Abe was baffling too
    Did they not realize he'd just get walked?
    101AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #65
    Might be time for a new manager, no?
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:52
    HANSHIN'S GONNA WIN!!!!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!
    No way we're losing two straight to the likes of Chunichi!!!!!
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #77
    Uh, they'd already lost 2 straight as of yesterday??
    89AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:57
    Glad we won, but nobody's stepping up to lock down that 4th rotation spot behind Murakami and Saiki Haruto
    It's been a bunch of interchangeable also-rans all year, nobody's pulling ahead of the pack
    96AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:00
    Re: #89
    That's exactly why they've been testing guys in games against the minnows lol
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:02
    Re: #96
    "Testing" — how many times are they gonna test the same guys?
    111AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:05
    Re: #99
    Come on

    They've gotta develop players too, of course they're testing them over and over lol

    They did the same thing against the minnows last year lol
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:03
    Re: #97
    One out, runners on first and second — sure, going with Fukunaga or Kanbayashi makes sense. But that's not the situation we had today
    114AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:06
    Re: #104
    I'm talking about the fact that he'd just get intentionally walked
    120AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:08
    What's the Giants' rotation looking like starting tomorrow?
    122AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:10
    Re: #120
    Probably the big three: Murakami, Saiki, and Takahashi
    If they do that, every weekday but Friday turns into a full backup rotation, which isn't great

    Background and Key Points

    Hanshin Tigers and Chunichi Dragons are two of Japan’s oldest Central League franchises, and this Central League clash carries real pennant-race weight: the thread notes Hanshin sit roughly 1.5 games ahead of the Yomiuri Giants, a margin posters treat as near-decisive given how few games remain and how badly rain has backed up the schedule (a recurring NPB problem, since compressed makeup games strain already-thin starting rotations). Chunichi, by contrast, are cast as the league’s last-place club (“Dobegons,” a pun combining “last” and “Dragons”), which makes their win streak – and Hanshin’s relief at snapping it – notable even though they’re out of the race themselves. Fujikawa, mentioned as the closer who “keeps getting bailed out,” is Hanshin’s veteran relief ace, a former MLB pitcher now closing games in his late career.

    The thread doesn’t split over whether Hanshin deserved the win – it splits over how they got it. One camp celebrates Sakamoto’s clutch homer (his ninth, floated as a Monthly MVP case); another dismisses the whole sequence as manufactured “small ball” – Chikamoto reaching base, bunting him over, advancing him, then cashing him in – calling it stylistically unsatisfying even in victory. A separate disagreement targets Chunichi’s in-game management: several posters think the decision to pinch-run for Hosokawa and pinch-hit for Abe (who, they argue, was obviously going to be walked) cost Chunichi the game, with a few going as far as suggesting the manager should be replaced.

    What the thread never spells out for outsiders is that sacrifice bunting mid-game to manufacture a run, rather than just as a last-resort tactic, is standard NPB strategy, not a sign of a weak offense – the “ugly win” gripe is a stylistic complaint about conservatism, not a claim Hanshin got lucky.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuhō+) thread “[Baseball] Central League D 3-4 T [8/27] Hanshin’s Sakamoto hits go-ahead two-run homer (No. 9), Dragons’ comeback loss snaps win streak.”

  • SaGa Emerald Beyond Drops to ¥980 on Amazon — 5ch: ‘Only the Battles and Music Are Good’

    SaGa Emerald Beyond has dropped to just ¥980 on Amazon, sparking discussion on 5ch’s hardware/industry (Geha) board. While some praised composer Ito Ken’s music and the battle system, persistent criticism of the dungeon-less, visual-novel-style presentation and the lack of a skip function fueled a broader debate over the series’ direction.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:30
    Hurry!
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:37
    Add shipping and it's over ¥1000
    Still too expensive
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:38
    Never do another SaGa Scarlet Grace-style game again
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:38
    This is the kind of ¥500-ish game you buy just to enjoy Ito Ken's music
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:46
    Re: #6
    The battle-prep track is stupidly cool
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:45
    When it turned into that board-game-style thing on PS2
    I remember thinking, 'yep, this series is done'
    Guess once something dies, it really doesn't come back
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:48
    I checked and it's ¥1700!
    Liar!
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:56
    It's sad that 'well, the music and battles are good' has basically become the standard line for defending a bad game
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 15:59
    Checked my Steam playtime and it was 497 hours
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:00
    But honestly this game IS 'just battles and music,' it's basically the textbook example
    It's a visual novel, replaying is mandatory, and there isn't even a skip button
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:05
    Even the battles aren't as great as people say, it's just the fanboys hyping it up
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:10
    I do think the Timeline and Dokudanjou (solo-showcase) systems are decently fun
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:25
    Re: #14
    Yeah, honestly it's just 'decently fun'
    It feels rough around the edges — good ideas, but needs more polish

    Also, since this is a replay-heavy game, let us skip the long-winded explanatory text and dialogue choices too
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:14
    I'll buy it once it's a coin (¥500) on mobile
    I picked up Romancing SaGa back when it got dirt cheap
    It's just too expensive, seriously
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:32
    It's not like they even shipped that many copies, and it's already in the bargain bin
    Really shows how unpopular the SaGa Scarlet Grace direction is
    Stop making games like this, Kawazu
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:34
    Wish the Steam version would go that cheap too~
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:39
    The core game system itself is genuinely great, but they stripped away so much else
    that usability was basically destroyed
    The battles are fun but they demand way too much effort
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:54
    The battles and music alone are top-tier while everything else is a mess, which is exactly why you can replay it endlessly
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:56
    There's stuttering every single time at the start of a battle turn and on the results screen
    It's probably a programming-level issue
    Kawazu supposedly came from a top science program, yet he has no problem shipping something with a technical flaw like this
    Does he have no pride?
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:00
    Re: #21
    Wasn't he a Tokyo Tech dropout though?
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:05
    Re: #21
    That's not really Kawazu's job anyway
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:56
    I love the characters, music, and world, and I've put in over 200 hours, but yeah, I can tell it's got one foot in shovelware territory lol
    31AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:07
    The stripped-down, no-fat game design is nice in principle
    but then the load times are so long that it
    really wrecked the pacing, which was a shame
    SaGa Scarlet Grace was great on that front though
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:27
    Re: #31
    Scarlet Grace of Ambitions was fine, but the original Vita release had all sorts of problems
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:31
    Even with the Romancing SaGa remake, the fanboys desperately pushed the 'sexy' angle to promote it, but it still didn't sell at all
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:33
    Re: #41
    Well, the SaGa series itself is a game only fanboys buy in the first place, so fanboys hyping it up to each other is pointless…
    48AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:45

    Apparently SaGa Emerald was ¥670 at Bic Camera
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:48
    Re: #48
    I wanted that…
    52AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:51
    Re: #48
    Wait, really?
    Is that the PS5 version, not the PS4 version they did the big clearance sale on?!
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:58
    Re: #48
    At that price I'd actually want it
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:48
    Because Kawazu's fanboys coddle him and never call garbage 'garbage,' we get stuff like this two times in a row
    61AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:09
    Re: #51
    If Revenge of the Seven (the Romancing SaGa 2 remake) had come out right after Minstrel Song, things would've turned out completely differently
    75AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:32
    Re: #51
    Honestly it's the same dynamic as FFXIV's 'Warriors of Light' fans do for producer Yoshida-P
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:28
    Honestly, the people who obsessively hate on a series as niche as SaGa are the ones I don't get
    Players buy it knowing full well it's a twisted, quirky kind of game, right?
    Maybe it just bugs them that people are enjoying something they personally dislike
    63AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:12
    Re: #55
    People criticize it because it used to be good and now it's garbage
    It's become a totally different game from the Romancing SaGa days
    No dungeons, just visual-novel scenes — that's not an RPG anymore, that's an adventure game
    At least Unlimited SaGa still had dungeons and still felt like an RPG
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:11
    'Flavorless gum' is honestly the perfect way to describe it
    88AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:04
    Apparently even Unlimited SaGa is a 'god-tier game' once you understand how to play it
    Kawazu games are awful about forcing 'if you want to enjoy it, learn how to play it first' on you
    96AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:27
    The irony is that the very elements Kawazu considers 'unnecessary'
    are exactly what has propped up the JRPG genre all along
    101AnonymousAug 27, 2026 21:50
    Re: #96
    That said, if SaGa had the same systems as every other JRPG, it wouldn't have survived this long in the first place
    The outer trappings matter, but only because there's a solid core underneath
    Make the trappings rich while neglecting the system, and you end up with an FF-style button-mashing game (a jab at flashy, style-over-substance combat), and the brand dies

    Background and Key Points

    SaGa is Square Enix’s longest-running experimental RPG line, dating to the 1989 Game Boy original, and it has spent three decades oscillating between mainstream-friendly entries and deliberately obtuse ones under director Akitoshi Kawazu. Unlimited SaGa (2002), referenced directly in the thread, is the series’ byword for “system so unfriendly it alienated even longtime fans,” while Romancing SaGa’s freeform, dungeon-crawling “Free Scenario” structure is what older posters are nostalgic for. Emerald Beyond (2024) followed SaGa Scarlet Grace in trimming exploration further: no dungeons, primarily text-and-portrait “visual novel” scenes between battles, and heavy reliance on replaying the same content to see different outcomes — a structure the thread treats as a regression rather than an innovation. ¥980 (about $6-7) on Amazon Japan is a steep drop from its roughly ¥8,000-9,000 launch price, though rapid bargain-bin pricing for niche, low-print-run Japanese RPGs within a year of release is common and not unique to this title.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether the game is bad — nearly everyone agrees the presentation and lack of a skip function are flaws — it splits on whether “the battles and music alone carry it” is legitimate praise or an admission that the core game has failed, and on whether Kawazu’s fanbase enables him by refusing to call weak entries weak (drawing an explicit comparison to Yoshida-P/FFXIV fandom).

    What’s left unstated is that composer Kenji Ito (“Ito Ken”) has scored SaGa since 1990, so the music praise reflects franchise continuity, not a standout new hire — and that Steam pricing, unlike Japanese retail, hasn’t seen a comparable discount.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “SaGa Emerald Beyond Hits a Washed-Up ¥980 Bargain Price on Amazon!!!!!!!”.