Before a recording of “JUNK Bakusho Mondai’s Car Boy,” Hikari Ota was chatting excitedly with staff about ABC Radio’s “Dokkiri! Hakkiri! It’s Koji Miyozawa” when Nadal of Coro Coro Chiki Chiki Peppers, who happened to be there, pushed back: “That kind of thing counts as harassment, you know.” Later in the show, when Ota brought up “Jujutsu Kaisen” to Nadal, he got the reply, “I get the anime, but the manga’s hard to follow” — leading to a moment where the two just couldn’t connect. On 5ch, posts piled up debating the generational knowledge gap, ranging from criticism of “Showa-era uncles” who use Dragon Ball as their go-to reference, to surprise that younger people don’t even know “Dokaben.”
Hikari Ota and Yuji Tanaka, the comedy duo Bakusho Mondai, appeared on the late-night broadcast of “JUNK Bakusho Mondai’s Car Boy” (TBS Radio) on the 22nd. When they ran into Nadal of Coro Coro Chiki Chiki Peppers backstage, an argument reportedly broke out over bringing up old shows and manga to someone from a different generation.
Ota ran into Nadal in the green room before the recording. Ota and the show’s makeup artist got onto the topic of Koji Miyozawa, familiar from ABC Radio’s “Dokkiri! Hakkiri! It’s Koji Miyozawa,” and got excited asking things like, “Do you know Koji Miyozawa?”
Nadal then suddenly cut in: “Ota-san, that kind of thing counts as harassment, you know. You should be more careful.”
Source: sirabee.com / Original article here
My department manager, who's in his 50s, actually knows this stuff in detail.
Personally I have zero desire to watch any of it though.
On the radio they actually did get into Jujutsu Kaisen properly —
Ota: "So Jujutsu Kaisen is fine, then?"
Nadal: "Jujutsu Kaisen is hard, man!"
Ota: "What do you mean, hard?"
Nadal: "I get it as an anime, but I can't follow the manga!"
Ota: "What does that even mean?"
Nadal: "I'm just saying the manga is hard!"
That's the bit they did.
I mean, Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan are basically just a patchwork of recycled plots and settings at this point —
all you can really do is laugh it off.
As for "Jujutsu Whatever," I don't even care enough to ask what it is.
That's old-man territory.
For what it's worth, it was still running until 2018.
I happen to know those so it's fine for me, but still.
"Please stop comparing everything to Otoko Juku!" (a retro delinquent-school manga)
was hilarious.
but why don't they ever use it as a reason to actually go learn about it?
Nobody's gonna go study something they're not interested in when there's no pressing need to.
Useless to society.
They think that's their craft, you know.
Everything ties into general knowledge in the end.
You're definitely better off knowing your manga.
Then why can't you apply that same logic to knowing Dokaben helping you talk to old people?
There was Norakuro in my elementary school library, I read it.
How many years ago did that manga even end?
In the end I never touched Demon Slayer, not even a millimeter's worth.
Why is someone who doesn't even know doragobo hanging out on a garbage-dump board like this……
"Doragobo" isn't really a shorthand people who watched it in real time actually use.
That guy's apparently a genuine short sleeper,
so he's probably got the time to keep up on everything.
https://image.yodobashi.com/product/100/000/009/001/740/238/100000009001740238_10203.jpg
I'm not even from that generation, but I learned about Benkei High School and stuff from listening to Car Boy.
I mean, they even did a 4-panel Dokaben strip.
but retro anime and manga never really catch on the same way, huh.
The anime remakes of Urusei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2 got people talking, but Kimengumi……
Background and Points of Debate
“Dokaben” is a baseball manga by Shinji Mizushima (with a judo arc within the story) that ran until 2018. The debate split into two camps: whether it’s harassment to measure young people against old manga references, and whether it’s simply laziness on the part of those who won’t make an effort to learn. What doesn’t come across from the main text alone is that Nadal himself admitted about “Jujutsu Kaisen,” “I get the anime but the manga is hard,” so he isn’t one-sidedly criticizing only young people. Note that some posts reacting against Ota being called out for harassment veered into political jabs and personal insults; those have been excluded from this article.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Nadal warns Hikari Ota: “Bringing up old manga to young people, like ‘Do you not know Dragon Ball,’ that’s harassment” / “What the heck is Dokaben! Nobody knows that!”“
