Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Giants Eliminated in CS First Stage, Booed by Home Fans at Tokyo Dome

    On October 11, 2026, the Yomiuri Giants went 0-2 in the Central League Climax Series First Stage at their home ballpark, Tokyo Dome, losing both games to DeNA and getting eliminated. According to Sports Nippon, boos rang out from the stands after the game when interim manager Hashigami and the players went over to greet fans along the first-base side. With the Giants having finished the regular season in 2nd place only to suffer this shocking sweep, reactions on 5ch were split — some said they couldn’t even tell if it was booing or cheering, others mocked the team’s weak lineup, and still others questioned the fairness of a Climax Series format that favors the 2nd- and 3rd-place teams.

    October 11, 2026, 17:16 — Baseball

    Sports Nippon Annex News Team

    [Central League Climax Series First Stage, Game 1: Giants 1–4 DeNA (October 11, 2026, Tokyo Dome)] The Giants, who finished the regular season in 2nd place, suffered a shocking sweep and were eliminated in the First Stage. After the game ended, when interim manager Hashigami, the coaching staff, and players went to greet fans along the first-base side, boos rang out from the stadium.

    Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:55
    ∩∪^ω^)Woof woof!
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    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:56
    Couldn't tell if that was booing or cheering lol
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:57
    The Giants are basically a perennial last-place team lol
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:57
    Booing a lineup like that, lmao
    Did you seriously expect something from them?
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:58
    The Giants are weaker than the Lotte Marines lol
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:20
    Re: #9
    Quit picking on the weak
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:58
    Watching the broadcast, there seemed to be a ton of Yokohama (DeNA) fans in the crowd
    They should just make the whole stadium orange like MLB does
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:59
    Giants are weak because they're still doing that corny "one more pitch!" countdown chant
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:01
    This is how it should be
    For a team that failed to win the pennant, reaching the Japan Series would've been nothing but a disgrace
    Fortunately, the Giants have managed to avoid any embarrassing underdog upsets since the CS format was introduced
    Starting tomorrow they can focus entirely on next season without worrying about the postseason
    This is how it should be
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #19
    The Giants have been on the losing end of underdog upsets plenty of times
    If that was supposed to be a joke, at least make it funny
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:04
    Kudoh — the short-series demon known for his postseason managing chops — running the Giants would've given more hope for next year lol
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #22
    He's not a homegrown player, but he was with the team for a good stretch too
    If "homegrown, Giants-only career" were the requirement to manage the Giants, the candidate pool would be really limited lol
    Even Hideki Matsui would be disqualified by that standard
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:15
    The only guys I even recognize are Sakamoto and Maru
    Everyone else is basically a nobody
    73AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:30
    Re: #45
    You'd know Miyata and Tazaki too then, if you know those two
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:16
    Hashigami was fine, but since he's getting let go whether they win or lose, maybe that's what killed the team's motivation?
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:19
    Re: #46
    That's got nothing to do with it — it's chronic lack of hitting power. They just lost because they couldn't hit, which is just about their real ability.
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:27
    There's barely any home-field advantage to begin with
    With this format I don't think it matters whether you finish 2nd or 3rd
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:29
    Re: #67
    It's only fair that the 1st-place team advances to the Japan Series anyway — 2nd and 3rd place are both just losers in the end
    Getting the gate revenue alone is plenty of a perk for 2nd place
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:30
    Re: #67
    There's gate revenue, you know (DeNA had to cover all their own costs out of pocket)
    79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:32
    Re: #67
    They get to host up to 3 sellout games — business-wise it's a night-and-day difference
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:30
    For the Giants front office, this is probably the best possible outcome
    It would actually be a problem if interim manager Hashigami won the whole thing
    This 2-game CS losing streak gives them an excuse to cut him loose
    82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:34
    Re: #71
    1 win and 2 losses would've been the best outcome
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:31
    Interim manager Hashigami is a coach who can develop players, but not one who wins games
    Maybe the team's gutless performance down the stretch was also because winning would've complicated the question of whether he stays
    81AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:34
    Re: #76
    Honestly, they did well considering how many guys were out injured
    85AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:34
    So who's starting tomorrow?
    87AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:35
    Re: #85
    Not tomorrow, but isn't game one Murakami vs. Taira?
    89AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:36
    By the way, why does Japan start its postseason so late?
    MLB plays more regular season games than NPB and they're already further along in their postseason
    108AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:49
    Re: #89
    If they cut it short with "no meaningless games!", the money coming in would shrink, wouldn't it?
    112AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:53
    Re: #89
    Because rained-out games get pushed to the end of the schedule
    91AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:38
    Oshiro batting cleanup — guess even the Giants are running out of players
    94AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:41
    Re: #91
    Makes me nostalgic for the days they'd stockpile cleanup hitters through free agency
    Nowadays everyone just goes to the majors
    93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:41
    Baseball's popularity really has fallen off, huh
    95AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:43
    Re: #93
    I've heard that back in the day you could watch Pacific League games for free, so isn't the Pacific League actually more popular now than it used to be?
    No idea about the Central League though
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:52
    Why not follow MLB's lead and switch to a best-of-5 format — 3 home games, 2 away?
    114AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:55
    Re: #111
    If you're going to copy MLB, the playoffs actually need to decide the champion
    That's the whole point of a playoff system in the first place

    Background and talking points

    The current Climax Series format was introduced in 2007; the First Stage pits the league’s 2nd- and 3rd-place finishers against each other in a series where whoever wins two games first advances. There’s no built-in game advantage for the 2nd-place team in the matchup itself — their only edge is hosting every game and keeping the gate revenue. The thread’s question of “what’s really the difference between 2nd and 3rd place” was a jab at this system design, with posters contrasting it against the fact that DeNA had to cover all its own costs for every game it played. Meanwhile, on the postgame boos, even some fans who were actually at the ballpark said they couldn’t tell if it was booing or cheering — meaning the “boos” reported as fact by the media may really have only reflected part of the crowd’s reaction. The Giants finished 2nd for the season, but their sluggish offense was largely a product of a string of key players being sidelined, and some pushed back on tying that directly to interim manager Hashigami’s future with the club.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Yomiuri] Giants booed by fans after First Stage elimination — swept at home in Tokyo Dome by DeNA to end the season,” available here.

  • OpenAI’s AI Cracks 372 Unsolved Math Problems in One Go — 5ch: “Mathematicians Will Be Out of a Job Before Anyone Else”

    On October 6, 2026, OpenAI used an AI model that has not been released to the public to tackle 372 unsolved problems in mathematics, publishing the results all at once in 722 papers. The results include progress toward the Riemann Hypothesis, which has stood unsolved for more than 150 years, as well as the resolution of a hard problem dating back to the 1940s. The announcement was framed as AI solving major math problems almost as a “side effect of a performance test,” and it drew plenty of reaction on 5ch’s Science News+ board. Alongside amazement at the AI’s raw ability, commenters on the thread were notably concerned that the results were racing ahead without any solid system in place to verify the proofs.

    Hard Math Problems Were Being Solved as a “Side Effect” of AI Performance Testing — 722 Papers Released at Once

    On October 6, 2026, America’s OpenAI used an AI model not available to the general public to announce results on 372 previously unsolved hard problems in mathematics, presented across 722 manuscripts.

    Among them are results that bring us significantly closer to the Riemann Hypothesis, which no one has been able to crack in over 150 years, as well as hard problems that had remained unsolved since the 1940s.

    Source: nazology.kusuguru.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:35
    If you have AI do the work, whoever had it do the work should take responsibility.
    Simple as that.
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:41
    Of course there's backlash.
    It's one of those things where your head gets it but your gut just won't accept it.
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:46
    AI is coming to wipe out humanity.
    The mathematicians understand that.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:48
    A superintelligence has been born
    and crowned itself king of the earth.
    Humanity is now a thing of the past.
    From here on, we can only live as slaves.
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:53
    Lord AI craves more memory and more power.

    Meanwhile humans toil away, sweating to serve Lord AI.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:55
    Even for everyday questions it constantly spits out answers that are just plausible-sounding nonsense stitched together, so I can't trust it.
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:06
    Re: #7
    That's because you're using the free chat version.
    Even that has gotten a lot better about saying weird stuff these past few months, though.
    Nobody uses AI these days the old way — ask a question, get one answer, done.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    I mean, with mathematicians who bet their whole lives on the Riemann Hypothesis scattered everywhere,
    and then Chappy (a common nickname for ChatGPT in Japan) comes along going "oops, did I do it again?"
    and drops a bombshell result — of course the math world is gonna go all wobbly lol
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:06
    We've entered an age where mathematicians lose their jobs before the guy on the construction site does.
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:44
    Re: #1
    Apparently there's a decent number of counterexample patterns in there,
    so that alone should be useful as-is.
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:45
    The outcome was already decided back at the Four Color Theorem.
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:47
    I wonder if Einstein got told the same thing.
    Scientists: "We're not your quality inspectors!"
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:15
    People who just dump a paper out there without explaining it and never stand at a lectern have always been criticized, right?
    Even Perelman — his paper was brilliant, but still…
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:20
    So the story is mathematicians are pushing back against OpenAI's mass release, but
    even if OpenAI had read the room and not used math problems as a benchmark substitute,
    the moment the latest model got released, random math-illiterate users would end up going
    "uh, I think I just solved some unsolved problem called XYZ? lol" anyway — that's probably how it'd play out.

    That said, from the math community's side, I get that something real gets lost when the field gets trampled like this.
    This is a genuinely tough problem.
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:08
    Right now this is basically corporate PR trolling, and being dragged into some sketchy data-dump is just a nuisance.

    > Doubts raised over OpenAI's 719 AI-generated math papers — Navier-Stokes proof said to conflict with formal verification

    yellow.com/ja
    > Questions are mounting in the math community over just how far the 719 AI-generated math papers from OpenAI can be trusted.

    > The trigger was a new paper pointing out that, for the Navier-Stokes equation proof the company announced earlier,
    >
    > "the body of the paper doesn't match the Lean code used for formal verification."
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 04:28
    Re: #18
    If "the body of the paper doesn't match the Lean code used for formal verification," then it's not actually a proof.
    Either OpenAI is being sloppy and reckless, or it simply hasn't reached the bar needed to be published as a proof in the first place.
    Same deal this time — something like "nearly 60% of the proof manuscripts are already public, but the work of rewriting them into Lean form is still in progress," meaning they haven't even verified it, right?
    Putting out something unverified and calling it a proof in a paper is wrong to begin with.
    That's rock bottom, OpenAI. Is AI even usable in academia at this level?
    Is it nothing more than a glorified, sloppy office tool after all?
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:35
    Re: #9
    Probably before too long, AI will be generating both the Lean verification and the human-readable papers,
    start to finish. At this pace, maybe even within the month?

    Last month the bar was still something like "AI poured in huge amounts of time and resources (i.e. big money) to solve the problem,"
    but this time it's solving problems after thinking for about 3 hours each —
    we're already past the point where it's even comparable to human mathematicians.

    The next-gen model will probably go public sometime before the year's out,
    and once it does, you can just try solving stuff with it yourself. For about $100 a month in subscription fees,
    an AI will answer your questions endlessly, for as long as it takes you to get bored.
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:59
    Re: #19
    "Last month," "this month" —
    what era do you even think this story is from?
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 04:19
    Re: #23
    The sequence is: in September there was the story about solving the Navier-Stokes equation,
    and then the next generation of AI after that solved this whole batch of problems at once, right?
    What era do YOU think this is, exactly?
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:42
    Re: #34
    I did write "there was the story that it was solved," though?
    There really was a flood of news like that at the time.

    We're talking about a timeline here, and the moment you say "you don't understand the content!"
    you're the one who doesn't understand the flow of this conversation.
    I bet you're just trying to muddy the original point.

    If it's being credited to OpenAI's next-gen AI, there's no way it could be
    some old story from way back — that's the whole point.
    Re: #23 was probably just mistaken, plain and simple.
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:46
    The original article had comments like "AI is stealing the math world's treasures!" too, but
    if that so-called treasure couldn't crack the problem for decades anyway,
    it's really just sour grapes from the losing side.
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:01
    Re: #20
    It literally says to stop just dumping results without showing the process.
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:21
    It hasn't actually proven anything.
    It's just promotional material insisting it's a proof.
    With humans you have peer review to debug it,
    but with AI and Lean it's all self-reported, so you can't tell if there are bugs.
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:58
    Re: #21
    Humans will handle it from there.
    If it finds the path, humans can walk it.
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 04:19
    AI talks a huge game and acts all cocky,
    but none of it is backed up and it all smells fishy.
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 05:23
    Formalizing physical laws (physics models in things like Mathlib):
    It's possible to define, in Lean, the mathematical structures of Newtonian mechanics and quantum mechanics broadly speaking (Hilbert spaces, CPTP maps, existence of solutions to differential equations, etc.).
    However, this only reproduces 100% consistency in the mathematical structure of the physical laws — it doesn't reproduce the actual fluctuations of individual real-world physical phenomena themselves.
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 06:47
    That strong backlash is basically just a scream of "what's going to happen to us now?"
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 07:24
    Re: #25
    The moment you write that the Navier-Stokes equation was "solved," it shows you don't get it, so maybe just stay quiet.
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:32
    So we still don't actually know Fermat's truly marvelous solution to his Last Theorem?
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #42
    It's said that Fermat mistakenly believed he'd proven it using the infinite descent method he himself favored.
    In reality it's not something provable by infinite descent, and the proof wasn't actually completed until the 20th century.
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:13
    I've been wondering about this for a while —
    does AI actually "think" when it answers, the way a human does?

    If it's just regurgitating sketchy old information as-is,
    I feel like that'd be pointless.
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:54
    Re: #43
    The definition probably varies by person, but yeah, it's thinking.
    Otherwise it couldn't solve Math Olympiad-level problems.
    At the very least, it's definitely not just rolling dice and sloppily copy-pasting stuff.
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:58
    Re: #43
    To answer that, you'd first have to figure out what "thinking" even is.
    56AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:05
    Re: #43
    AI is a knowledge database, so it's not thinking — it's just blindly trying, one by one, proof techniques that worked for humans in the past, and presenting whichever result looks good as the answer.
    That's why, afterward, you have to properly verify whether it's actually a correct proof.
    Since AI can't explain how it arrived at a result, rewriting it in Lean and verifying it is essential in AI's case.
    And even if the Lean check turns up no problems, humans still have to verify whether that Lean code itself is correct.
    The advantage of AI-generated proofs is that they can apply past proof techniques humans might never have thought to use.
    But don't expect much from proofs built on genuinely new ideas unlike anything before — AI is, after all, just an aggregate of humanity's past knowledge.
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:44
    If AI were actually thinking,
    it should be able to perfectly translate its proofs into normal prose a human can read.
    The fact that it can't be translated into a human-style paper means it isn't thinking anything through,
    which makes me doubt whether it even has the same logical consistency as real math to begin with.
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:30
    Re: #47
    Aren't you overrating humans?
    Plenty of humans can't do that properly either.
    57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:14
    Re: #55
    Poor Fermat, getting talked about over and over with people acting like they've got him all figured out.
    If he really knew the truth, he's probably thinking "I'll flatten you for that, you little punks."
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:37
    Re: #57
    For his other results, Fermat similarly scribbled about having a "marvelous proof," and in those other cases it turned out they really could be proven by infinite descent elsewhere. So the theory goes that when he jotted the note about what we now call his Last Theorem, he believed at the time it could be proven by infinite descent too — but when he later tried to actually carry it out, infinite descent just didn't work for that one.
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:38
    Re: #59
    Don't just make up guesses like that.
    61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:58
    Re: #60
    Like I'd know.
    This is simply what's currently believed to be Fermat's "marvelous proof."
    If you don't like it, go write a paper that overturns it.

    Background and Key Issues

    What stands out about OpenAI’s announcement is that it rolled out results on unsolved math problems all at once, across 722 papers, not as peer-reviewed “research” but as a byproduct of performance-testing an unreleased model — and that departure from the math world’s normal process is what triggered the backlash. “Lean,” which comes up repeatedly in the thread, is a programming language and tool used to automatically verify by computer whether a proof is logically sound; whether an AI-generated proof text actually matches its corresponding Lean verification code has become the yardstick for how much it can be trusted. In fact, separate reports have pointed out that for the previously announced proof of the Navier-Stokes equations, the body of the paper and the Lean code didn’t match — and much of the thread’s skepticism traces back to that incident. In other words, the real issue isn’t whether AI can solve these problems at all, but how claimed solutions get verified and who’s responsible for that process.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “yƒiƒ]ƒƒW[z”Šw‚Ì“ï–â‚ÍAI‚Ìu«”\ŽŽŒ±‚̂‚¢‚Åv‚É‰ð‚©‚ê‚Ä‚¢‚½„Ÿ„Ÿ722–{‚̘_•¶‚ªˆê‹“ŒöŠJ [‚·‚ç‚¢‚Þš].”

  • Juice=Juice Fans’ “Front-Row Gatekeeping” Sparks Backlash at Festival

    “Front-row gatekeeping” by fans of the idol group Juice=Juice became a flashpoint at a festival the group performed at, sparking debate on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The trigger was an eyewitness account posted on X describing a fan who had staked out a spot at the very front telling other attendees “don’t come over here” — all while being glued to their own phone during the show. The thread saw criticism of this behavior, along with disagreement over whether the agency or the festival organizers should be the ones to deal with it. Some commenters also pointed out that similar complaints had come up before with other groups, but nothing had ever changed.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:45
    @
    I remember that guy who deliberately left a gap at the front to gatekeep it, screaming "don't come over here" at people — and the woman next to him was glued to her phone during the MC and the show itself. Fine, I'll even give you a pass for pulling an all-nighter to claim the front row, but can you at least follow basic manners instead of yapping and checking your phone during the show? Come on, Juice=Juice fans. #GFes
    @
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:46
    @
    I've seen a bunch of stuff about Juice=Juice otaku doing front-row gatekeeping and it's genuinely creepy.

    Grown men of a certain age, acting like this?

    Don't inconvenience everyone around you just to satisfy your own urges.
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:46
    That's just a made-up "poor me" story — a staged persecution act.
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:47
    Why did this "front-row gatekeeping" thing suddenly become a thing?
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:52
    Don't drag that lame front-row gatekeeping culture into this.
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:55
    Re: #24
    Otaku from every Hello! Project group do this at taiban (joint shows with multiple groups).
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:54
    There was a thread about this back during Jaiga (another festival) too, but it never took off.
    If people had policed themselves back then, maybe none of this would've happened this time.
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:55
    Re: #31
    You're right.
    Both the members who didn't call it out back then and the agency are to blame.
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:54
    Juice has always attracted a lot of messed-up fans.
    I once saw an old guy get beaten up by a few young fans at a live house.
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #32 happened way before "Moremi" (apparent fan-era nickname).
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:58
    But can the agency even control who gets into a festival crowd?
    Feels like that's the festival organizers' problem.
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:58
    Re: #43
    The staff manager is right there with them, isn't he?
    Just call it out on the spot.
    77AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:06
    Re: #43
    At this point the only countermeasure the festival organizers really have is to just stop booking Juice.
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:00
    This agency never does anything about stuff like this.
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:01
    Re: #53
    But they did ban jumping, though.
    56AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:01
    Re: #46
    Can't security just step in and warn them? It's happening right in front of them, they'd notice.
    69AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:04
    Re: #56
    Get the agency or the members themselves to say something — that's what'll actually get through to toxic fans.
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:02
    Re: #46
    The manager can't exactly be monitoring the crowd right before showtime.
    Not unless they assign dedicated staff for it.
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:04
    Re: #62
    Then Up-Front (the agency) should send its own staff.
    Otherwise it just ends up causing trouble for other agencies too.
    84AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:08
    Re: #72
    They're festival attendees first and foremost, so Up-Front can't really intervene.
    It has to be the festival organizers who act.
    87AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:09
    Re: #84
    It's on the festival for booking idols to draw a crowd without managing them properly.
    Idol otaku have zero interest in the bands anyway.
    96AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:11
    Re: #84
    Still, even so — a festival has acts from all kinds of agencies, so if it gets this bad, the agency should step up and take responsibility for calling it out. It's already causing trouble for other artists and their fans, after all. And if the agency actually did that, both you and I would back them for it.
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:05
    I posted this in another thread too, but Beyooooonds also had new trash fans doing front-row gatekeeping, so I guess now it's Juice's turn.
    Seems like this kind of fan crawls out of the woodwork once a group gets popular.
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:05
    Re: #74
    Beyooooonds isn't even popular.
    75AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:05
    Re: #69
    If something like that actually worked on front-row gatekeepers, we wouldn't still be dealing with this.
    79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:06
    Re: #75
    Just threaten to kick them out of the fan club.
    93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:11
    Enough with the damage control pretending you're not even a Juice otaku.
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:12
    Re: #79
    They're probably not even in the fan club to begin with.
    99AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #97
    Wait, the toxic fan isn't even an FC (fan club) member?
    109AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:16
    Re: #99
    No idea who this guy is, but if he only ever shows up at festivals, that's probably the answer.
    112AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:18
    Re: #109
    Nah, even if he's not winning ticket lotteries lately, he'd still go to the bar events, so he's gotta be an FC member.
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:17
    Isn't there a single festival out there that flat-out declares it'll stamp out front-row gatekeeping?
    I'd think there's real demand for that as a mark of safety and security.
    115AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:18
    Re: #111
    Some deal with it by setting up priority areas.
    113AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:18
    Yeah, it's gotta be ANGERME or Morning Musume — nothing else will do.
    118AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:20
    Re: #113
    Please don't lump ANGERME in with that.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    “Front-row gatekeeping” refers to a long-criticized practice in the idol fan scene where a particular fan effectively claims the area near the front row before an event and pressures other attendees to stay away. What made this instance stand out is that it happened at a festival featuring multiple groups, compounded by manner violations like phone use and chatting during the show. The thread was split between “the agency (Up-Front) should handle this” and “isn’t policing the crowd the festival organizers’ job?” — with some pointing out that even with staff present, realistically monitoring the audience right up until showtime is difficult. At the same time, similar complaints reportedly surfaced before with other Hello! Project groups, with some commenters saying “nothing was done to self-correct back then.” Note that this article does not identify or expose the individual alleged to be at fault.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Sad News] Juice=Juice Gets Absolutely Hated On at a Festival wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww“.

  • World’s Most Fascinating Country 2026: Japan Takes #1 — 5ch Users Ask, ‘Why Is Cambodia #4? That’s a Mystery’

    In the reader-voted ranking for “World’s Most Fascinating Countries 2026,” published by major U.S. travel magazine Condé Nast Traveler, Japan was named the number one country. It was followed by Italy at #2 and France at #7, with Vietnam at #10 and South Korea at #11. On 5ch, threads raised questions about Cambodia’s #4 ranking and noted that the magazine is a travel publication aimed at high-income readers with a circulation of 720,000 copies. Meanwhile, many posters pointed to great food, excellent infrastructure, and low medical costs as reasons why Japanese people who go abroad end up coming back home.

    U.S. magazine’s “World’s Most Fascinating Countries 2026”: Vietnam ranks 10th, Japan ranks 1st

    Major U.S. travel magazine Condé Nast Traveler (CN Traveller) released its reader-voted “Readers’ Choice Awards 2026,” covering both the U.S. and U.K. editions, and announced the ranking of “World’s Most Fascinating Countries.” Vietnam was ranked 10th in the U.S. edition, with a score of 92.99 points.

    The top 10 “World’s Most Fascinating Countries” in the U.S. edition are as follows.

    Source: viet-jo.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:55
    Cambodia at #4? I don't get it
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:56
    Re: #4
    Eating pumpkin (kabocha) while gazing at Angkor Wat (a pun — "Cambodia" and "kabocha/pumpkin" sound alike in Japanese)
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:04
    Re: #4
    It's actually a pretty nice place. The air is fresh and the people are kind.
    Summers are hot and winters are cold though
    141AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #4
    I feel like Cambodia became a really rich country. Never been there, so I wouldn't really know
    140AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #1
    "Condé Nast Traveler"
    Also, being selected in the country category is the most prestigious award

    Founded in 1987, Condé Nast Traveler is one of the major travel magazines with a readership centered on high-income earners.
    It features the latest information on high-quality travel, hotels, restaurants, shopping, and more, and is published worldwide including in the U.S. and U.K., with a circulation of about 720,000 copies in the U.S. and about 70,000 in the U.K.

    216AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:22
    I'm Japanese, but I think this result is strange.
    Because the Republic of Korea is far more fascinating
    233AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:24
    Re: #216
    Unfortunately, Korea's minimum wage is now about the same as Japan's, and it's become a country with high prices.



    South Korea's minimum wage for next year has been set at 10,700 won per hour (about 1,170 yen). This will be the minimum applied to roughly 22 million wage workers nationwide.

    South Korea: Next year's minimum wage set at 10,700 won, up 3.7% from this year
    Wed, 7/15
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/219edd8315e9380fe2e37c5e361d4c9c240a9607
    236AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:24
    Re: #216
    I read that with a straight face and snot came out laughing
    245AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:26
    Everyone kind of already knows this, right?
    People complain but never actually leave Japan
    And even when they do leave, they end up coming back
    253AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:27
    Re: #245
    Though a massive capital outflow has actually started
    They're desperately propping up the Nikkei to try to stop it
    256AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:27
    Re: #245
    The food's great and there are hot springs
    The infrastructure, like trains, is excellent too
    With national health insurance and the high-cost medical care system, even an illness costing over 100 million yen can end up costing you only around 100,000 yen out of pocket
    There's no country with this kind of cost performance
    303AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:32
    This is exactly what happens to people who leave Japan and come back
    You only realize how great Japan is once you've left it
    311AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:33
    Re: #303
    Even for Japanese people, Japan is dirt cheap these days
    330AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:34
    Re: #303
    Japan is in a league of its own when it comes to good food
    British food is basically inedible
    America's all junk food too
    Eat that stuff all the time and you'll get diabetes or heart disease in no time
    307AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:32
    Re: #1
    #4: Cambodia (93.57 points)
    LMAOOOO
    Glad we at least beat Cambodia
    334AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:35
    Re: #1
    > #4: Cambodia

    Why Cambodia though, lol

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This ranking is part of Condé Nast Traveler’s reader-voted awards, based on votes from actual travelers — it is not a rating by experts. The U.S. and U.K. editions are tallied separately, and this article covers the results from the U.S. edition; the ranking may differ in the U.K. edition. A long back-and-forth in the thread confused the ranking of “world’s most-visited country” (France) with that of “most fascinating country,” but the former is based on visitor statistics from bodies like the UNWTO, while the latter is a reader-survey score — they measure entirely different things to begin with. Cambodia’s #4 ranking drew plenty of questions, but since this is still a reader poll involving tens of thousands of votes, it likely simply reflects the preferences of whoever happened to vote. Note that later posts in the thread included comments touching on historical views and xenophobic remarks; since these have little bearing on the facts of the ranking itself, they are not covered in this article.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Breaking] Major U.S. magazine’s “World’s Most Fascinating Countries 2026”: #1 Japan, #2 Italy, #7 France, #10 Vietnam, #11 South Korea.”

  • 60% of College Sophomores Study 5 Hours or Less a Week — 5ch: ‘Blame the Half-Assed Classes’

    Japan’s 2025 “National Student Survey” by the Ministry of Education found that 60% of university sophomores spend five hours or less per week on study time such as preparation and review for classes. University establishment standards assume about two hours of outside-class study per class session, but the reality falls far short. The survey covered 734 schools nationwide and received responses from roughly 320,000 students. On 5ch, the results sparked debate over whether the cause lies in the quality of teaching or in students’ attitudes, with many also pointing to the spread of generative AI as a factor cutting into study time, as well as the fact that job hunting in Japan tends to prioritize university prestige and extracurricular “gakuchika” stories over academic grades.

    Japan’s Ministry of Education’s 2025 “National Student Survey” found that 60% of university sophomores spend five hours or less per week on study time such as class preparation, review, and assignments.

    The government’s university establishment standards assume about two hours of outside-class study for every class session (roughly one hour long), but the survey revealed a stark gap between that assumption and students’ actual lives.

    The survey aims to clarify the real state of student life and university education in order to drive improvements. More than 90% of Japan’s national, public, and private universities — 734 schools in total — participated, and online responses were collected from about 320,000 students, representing 25% of second-year undergraduates and final-year students (fourth- or sixth-years).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:32
    It's the classes being way too half-assed that's the problem… are they taking us for fools?
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:35
    Re: #33
    Teaching, you know — unless you're an adjunct, professors honestly don't have much incentive to put effort into it.
    Writing papers, doing research, landing research grants — that's what actually helps your career.

    Not saying it's okay to slack off, but it's kind of like how in a private company you naturally focus on whatever gets you evaluated — same structure.
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:40
    Re: #33
    University classes are, at best, just there to point you in a direction — you can only actually absorb the material by studying on your own.
    There's no way to understand something just by sitting there listening.
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:37
    Don't universities give out assignments anymore these days?
    If people are using AI to do their assignments, that's beyond 'academic collapse' — it's a whole different level.
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:39
    Re: #53
    Being able to use AI to get assignments done is actually the more useful skill, though.
    Because that's exactly what you'll do once you're out in the working world.
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:40
    Re: #53
    Reports and papers? Use AI and it's done in 10 seconds.
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:37
    It's about time Japan ditched both the credentialism and the pointless studying.
    South Korea's even opening high schools focused on semiconductors.
    At this rate Japan's just going to keep falling further behind Korea.
    57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:38
    Re: #54
    Meanwhile Japan still seems to have a ton of vocational schools for anime and voice acting.
    78AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:43
    Back in the bubble era, grades counted for absolutely nothing in job hunting.
    Companies just accepted whichever students got allocated to them from the 'right' universities and then molded them in-house to their liking.
    Back then, companies took it for granted that all you really learned in college was how to have fun — that was the implicit deal.
    It wasn't until the hiring ice age that students who actually studied seriously started entering the workforce.
    93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:46
    Re: #78
    Isn't that still basically how it works today?
    That's exactly why people pour their energy into 'gakuchika' (résumé-worthy extracurricular stories) instead of academics…
    110AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:49
    Re: #78
    It all comes down to the university's name.
    Even back in the bubble era, people were shocked when a grad from a 'Daito-Teikoku' tier school (a group of lower-ranked private universities) landed an office job at a top-tier company.
    101AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:48
    Exam prep isn't studying.
    Cram school instructors aren't teachers either.

    The whole thing is fundamentally wrong.
    116AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:51
    Re: #101
    Companies don't hire people who actually love studying.
    The reason being, the people in charge of hiring were never the ones who loved studying in the first place.
    118AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:52
    Re: #116
    Maybe the workplace itself doesn't particularly want people who are good at studying either.
    126AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:54
    Re: #118
    That's exactly why corporate performance isn't growing — but hey, as long as the banks keep lending money, it somehow works out lol
    149AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:59
    Re: #118
    It's more useful for the smart ones to go into research or specialist tracks anyway.
    Especially since Japanese companies barely have enough competent managers who know how to handle people with master's or PhD degrees.
    That's a uniquely Japanese problem, honestly.
    125AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:54
    A system where you work first, figure out what you actually want to do, and then go study it at university might not be a bad idea.
    133AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:56
    Re: #125
    Except Japanese 'colleges' are vocational schools — ranked below universities.
    141AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:58
    Re: #125
    Just getting rid of the 'must graduate within X years' limit would probably improve things quite a bit.
    130AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:55
    Can we stop treating 'studies English, math, Japanese, social studies, and science like crazy' as the definition of smart?
    Otherwise kids never get to learn anything actually useful.
    134AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:56
    Re: #130
    Like what, specifically?

    Saying stuff like that
    is exactly what's made people dumber and killed individuality —
    that's where we are now, lol
    138AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:57
    Re: #130
    The real problem is private schools cutting the number of entrance exam subjects just to inflate their average exam scores.
    152AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:00
    Re: #144
    Wrong.
    The reason companies can't fire people is a national law — employment protection regulations.
    Companies want to fire incompetent full-time employees and hire capable ones instead.
    And if that were possible, full-time employees would also work desperately hard to avoid being fired.

    But what's blocking that is the national law on dismissal protections.
    Neither management nor workers are the ones at fault here.
    159AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:02
    Re: #152
    Japan is gradually moving toward labor market liberalization, though.
    And as that's happened, Japan's competitiveness has been declining.
    You need to look at reality.
    161AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:02
    Re: #159
    It's nowhere close to liberalized.
    That's exactly why Japan's competitiveness is falling.
    Look at reality —
    Japan has one of the lowest levels of labor mobility in the world, and it's declining faster than anywhere else.
    168AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:04
    Re: #161
    I'm telling you to look at the trend.
    Japan's labor market mobility is higher now than it used to be.
    And yet Japan's competitiveness used to be higher in the past.
    191AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #161
    Labor liberalization and corporate competitiveness are two different things.
    Take Toyota, for example — most people who join Toyota stay for a long time.
    So does that mean Toyota's workforce is somehow inadequate as labor? No — it generates massive profits.
    The jobs that actually need more mobility are things like well-paid management positions,
    and those have already become more fluid.
    What Japan is lacking right now is capital investment.
    And for companies to invest in capital, profit margins need to rise.
    For that, you need mild inflation — without it, there's no economic turnaround.
    No executive invests in capital under a deflationary mindset.
    And yet the media panics the moment mild inflation shows up.
    If core-core CPI growth hit something like 4%, sure, a bit of monetary tightening would make sense —
    but they panic over just 1%.
    At that rate, neither economic growth nor productivity will ever improve.
    176AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:07
    Re: #168
    Back in the day, wrongful dismissals, unpaid overtime ('service overtime'), workplace harassment, and brutal hours were all just normal.
    That's exactly why everyone worked themselves to the bone.
    And that's why companies could make great products, sell them, turn a profit, and grow.

    But now that labor laws are actually being enforced and those things are gone,
    nobody works themselves to the bone anymore.

    As for labor market mobility, that's what the dispatch worker law was created for.
    The dispatch law exists specifically to protect the jobs of full-time employees at big companies.
    It's meaningless if only the bottom-rung temp workers have mobility.
    Japanese companies can't win unless there's mobility at the top too — the people actually doing development at big firms.
    The dispatch law, if anything, blocks exactly that.
    186AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:12
    Re: #176
    It's not exactly harassment, but there are definitely places with intense pressure.
    Nidec's a famous example — Mr. Nagamori.
    But it's not as simple as 'pressure employees and performance goes up.'
    It's well known that teams with high psychological safety actually perform better.
    190AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #186
    Every company used to be like that back in the day.
    There was even a TV commercial for it — 'Can you work 24 hours? Busine-e-ess-maaan~' (a famous 1980s energy-drink ad slogan).
    202AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:16
    Re: #190
    It's not like every company was piling on pressure to make people work 24 hours straight.
    It's more accurate to say there was an unspoken contract: the company won't fire you and will take care of you, and in exchange the employee gives everything to the company.
    212AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:17
    Re: #202
    Japanese employee: 'Got the job offer. I'm set for life now — the company will take care of me until retirement.'
    Foreign employee: 'Got the offer, but the real fight starts now. I'll work like hell to survive.'

    Japanese company: 'Let's train our engine engineers in motor tech from scratch and start EV development in five years.'
    Foreign company: 'Let's lay off the engine engineers, hire motor engineers, and start EV development tomorrow.'


    You really think Japan wins with that approach?
    181AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:09
    For college students, stuff like shooting films, programming games, writing novels, or trading stocks —
    that's the studying you actually want to do. School coursework is really just foreign language classes;
    STEM majors obviously study their major, but that's about it.
    200AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:15
    Re: #181
    That's pretty much how it is now —
    people study what they actually want to and make the most of it.
    211AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:17
    Re: #181
    Makes you realize blue-collar life after just a high school diploma really is hell by comparison.
    182AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:09
    If AI learns faster than we do, is there even a point to learning anything anymore?
    Eventually AI that manages other AI will become the norm too, and all that'll be left for humans is blue-collar work.
    189AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:13
    Re: #182
    It'd be fine if AI gave you 100% accurate answers no matter what you asked it to do.
    But in reality it's nowhere close to that, which is exactly why human value that can outdo AI is rising right now.
    Anyone who blindly believes whatever answer AI spits out is basically an 'AI cultist' — and without exception, an idiot.
    223AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:21
    Re: #182
    When it comes to specialized topics, AI lies a fair amount (the so-called 'hallucination' problem).
    Catching those lies takes real knowledge and experience.

    In fact, in the US right now,
    people with the knowledge and experience to spot AI hallucinations
    are becoming highly valued.
    195AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:14
    Most students these days are idiots who think 'university = a place to go have fun.'
    How did it get this way?
    Is it the influence of some weird TV dramas or manga?
    209AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:17
    Re: #195
    It's because they made way too many universities.
    217AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:19
    Re: #195
    Probably because novelists and media people are overwhelmingly humanities majors.
    I mean, sure, even if you skip class, you're busy with theater or writing…
    but the college life those people depict ends up shaping everyone's image of it,
    and the end result of that, hitting right as the hiring ice age struck, is basically 2ch.
    198AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:15
    Before you even get to studying, it takes days just to track down reference materials and books for your paper.
    The library's books are 100% always checked out, so you end up having to buy them.
    ,
    I wonder if AI makes that easier now.
    203AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:16
    Re: #198
    'Easier' doesn't even begin to describe it — it spits out a polished, copy-paste-ready essay complete with sources.
    225AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:22
    Re: #198
    I was a student a bit over 10 years ago, and back then the internet and digging through papers for loopholes covered that just fine.

    Background and Key Points

    The Ministry of Education’s “National Student Survey” is a nationwide survey that began in fiscal 2019. University establishment standards assume about two hours of outside-class study for every one class session. By simple math, 15 class sessions a week would call for 30 hours of self-study — yet in reality, 60% of students study five hours or less, a massive gap. On the thread, opinions split between blaming declining student motivation and blaming the incentive structure for faculty (research and papers count toward career advancement, while teaching doesn’t). The spread of generative AI, which lets students churn out reports in a fraction of the time, was also raised as a factor accelerating the drop in study time. Posters also pointed to the reality that Japanese job hunting values university prestige and “gakuchika” (stand-out extracurricular achievements) over academic performance — a systemic contradiction in “why study at all” that isn’t obvious from the original article, but is worth keeping in mind.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “60% of university sophomores study “5 hours or less a week” for class prep and review — little self-study outside class.”

  • Made to Listen to Her Boss Badmouth Coworkers Every Day, She Got Sick — Hiroshima High Court Reverses Ruling, Calls It Workplace Harassment

    A former employee of Hiroshima Prefecture sued the prefecture for damages, saying she developed an adjustment disorder after being forced to listen to her boss badmouth her coworkers almost every single day. The Hiroshima High Court overturned the lower court’s ruling and ordered the prefecture to pay her 220,000 yen. The Hiroshima District Court had dismissed her claim at first instance, but the High Court found that the boss’s conduct amounted to harassment that “drew on a position of superiority and continued over a long period in a manner that grossly exceeded what is socially acceptable.” On the forum, reactions split between shock (“just listening to badmouthing is enough to break someone?”) and sympathy (“of course you’d get sick if it happened every day and you had nowhere to escape”), with plenty of attention also going to how the claimed 3.3 million yen shrank all the way down to 220,000 yen.

    The Hiroshima High Court recently issued its appellate ruling in a lawsuit in which a former Hiroshima Prefecture employee sought 3.3 million yen in damages from the prefecture, claiming she suffered psychological distress from being continually forced to listen to her boss badmouth her coworkers.

    Presiding Judge Masayuki Suenaga ruled that the badmouthing “constitutes unlawful workplace harassment.” He overturned the Hiroshima District Court’s first-instance ruling, which had dismissed the woman’s claim, and ordered the prefecture to pay her 220,000 yen.

    Judge Suenaga noted that the boss’s badmouthing “must be described as unilaterally venting frustration and anger of the moment onto a subordinate close at hand.” He concluded it amounted to workplace harassment because the boss, “drawing on a position of superiority, continued for a long period to voice criticism and complaints that served no business purpose, in a manner that grossly exceeded what is socially acceptable, inflicting significant psychological burden.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:25
    Yikes, better watch myself starting tomorrow
    170AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:31
    Re: #2
    That's not even a boss, though?
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:29
    Honestly, when women talk it's basically all badmouthing other people
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:45
    Re: #8
    There are plenty of women who hate badmouthing others too, you know — the more mature someone is mentally and as a person, the more they know how stupid and embarrassing badmouthing and one-upping people is, so they don't do it. You pick one nasty woman and lump everyone into the same personality — if you swapped the genders and said that, people would complain about applying one individual to the whole group.
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:50
    Re: #8
    Hospitals are nothing but badmouthing patients and bullying coworkers, honestly
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:29
    >Almost every day, in person or by phone, forced to listen to her boss badmouth staff in the same department and criticize the prefecture's projects, developing chronic tinnitus and headaches.
    Lol, low tolerance (lmao)
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:16
    Re: #9
    Nah, there are people who'd call this "kasuhara" (customer harassment)-level stuff these days. If you're tough you can just tell them to shut up and be done with it, but…
    82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:24
    Re: #9
    You've never had to listen to this stuff every single day, have you. In my case it wasn't even a boss — it was the full-time middle-aged women and men who'd occasionally hit me with badmouthing and gossip, and even that was unpleasant. Seriously, badmouth-lovers are a nuisance whether you're a working adult or back in school. Worst case, you even risk being seen as part of the same gossip clique.
    122AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:14
    Re: #9
    If you have to listen to it right next to you every day, you'll get sick. Especially if you're not in a position of power to make them stop.
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:34
    Now the boss is going to develop PTSD from losing this case and countersue
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:35
    Re: #18
    Meanwhile the people who actually got badmouthed are left in the dust, huh
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:39
    Don't know if the boss is a man or woman, but if it's women together, isn't it a daily badmouthing contest anyway?
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:49
    Re: #23
    Even at messy companies with men too, there were places where the women would just sigh at each other and say "let's make sure we don't end up like that." Funny how they'd get mad if you generalized about them though.
    78AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:18
    Re: #23
    I don't think there's really a gender difference there. Personally, in all my years working, most men and women alike were decent, a few had angelic personalities, and only a tiny few were genuinely nasty. As for actual criminals (embezzlement, attempted rape), there were two, both men.
    141AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:47
    Re: #23
    Regardless of gender, there are people who think complaining and badmouthing is just how you communicate. Whether that type is actually liked is another question — but they probably hit it off fine with others just like them.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 13:47
    Best policy: don't hang around people who complain and badmouth a lot
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:12
    He only said that stuff because he trusted her — now that he's getting sued over it, the boss himself is probably going to lose all trust in people too
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:15
    Re: #68
    You never know. Maybe when this woman wasn't around, they were badmouthing her instead
    88AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:28
    Re: #82
    Worst case, the boss could flip it around and say "she's the one who was spreading it around." (´・ω・`)
    177AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:30
    Re: #88
    If you so much as agree with him, you're in danger too lol
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:33
    3.3 million yen down to 220,000 yen? I don't really get it
    164AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:53
    Re: #97
    Guess the claim just wasn't worth that much
    98AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:34
    Why is being forced to listen to someone badmouth another person so stressful? Hearing people trash-talk Trump, Takaichi, Xi Jinping, Putin, or Netanyahu doesn't bother me at all though
    103AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:39
    Re: #98
    Probably because you're coming into contact with malice that exists within a 10-meter radius of you. I think it's an instinctive aversion
    99AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:35
    People who are always in a bad mood and spreading negative vibes like this are such a pain. You don't know how to react, and it's depressing wondering when you'll become their next target
    118AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:04
    Re: #99
    Chronic persecution-complex type. I'd avoid dealing with them if I could
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:54
    Badmouthing others and whispering behind people's backs within a clique is an everyday thing in women's social circles — practically an instinctive form of communication. If this kind of precedent sticks, aren't basically all women in trouble?
    112AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:57
    Re: #111
    Women badmouth people so casually, it really is a problem. Try putting yourself in the shoes of the person who has to listen to it
    115AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:00
    Re: #111
    District and high courts are places where second-tier judges like to stand out by handing down surprising rulings. So even though people call it a "precedent," rulings at the district/high court level aren't treated as binding precedent. It only gets scary if the Supreme Court comes out with some ridiculous conclusion.
    121AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:13
    If the boss just wants to badmouth people, fine, do whatever. But the fact that not agreeing with him turns into "oh, so you're an enemy too?" is seriously exhausting. His character is garbage and he doesn't even realize that's exactly why people hate him
    128AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:20
    Re: #121
    Some people only have folders for "like/dislike" and "friend/enemy," nothing in between. I think life would be a bit easier if they made a folder for "don't want to get involved, but don't want to be enemies either." Though I don't have any friends myself
    130AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:20
    Re: #121
    This exactly. Every time I offered "well, maybe it could be seen this way too," things got incredibly twisted
    132AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:28
    Re: #130
    Had that happen at a part-time job back in college. The person I was paired with spent the entire shift nonstop badmouthing another part-timer. I kept giving wishy-washy responses like "come on now" or "maybe they have their reasons," and suddenly they screamed at me, "THAT'S NOT IT, I SAID!!!!" Scared the hell out of me since they'd been grinning while badmouthing just moments before
    140AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:43
    Re: #132
    Scary — good thing it was "just" a part-time job. People learn to snap like that somewhere, you know. My guess is that as a kid, their toxic parent was always badmouthing people, and when little them tried to calm them down with "come on now," the parent snapped at them exactly like that. And now they're doing the same thing to other people.
    160AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:43
    When there are two women together, I figured they'd just badmouth whichever woman isn't in the room lol. Is it only bad because it's a boss?
    163AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:49
    Re: #160
    Guess you just don't have much luck with women

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Workplace harassment (“power harassment”) is defined under the revised Act on Comprehensive Promotion of Labor Measures, which took effect in 2020, as “conduct based on a position of superiority that exceeds what is necessary and appropriate for business and that harms the work environment.” The key point in this case is that the badmouthing targeted not the plaintiff herself but third parties — her coworkers. The Hiroshima District Court had dismissed her claim at first instance, ruling that this didn’t qualify as workplace harassment in a business sense. The Hiroshima High Court overturned that, placing weight on the fact that she was forced to listen to it unilaterally, over a long period and at high frequency, and found it unlawful. On the forum, opinions split between surprise (“just listening to badmouthing causes an adjustment disorder?”) and sympathy (“of course you’d get sick if it happened daily and you couldn’t escape your boss”). The fact that the awarded amount dropped sharply from the claimed 3.3 million yen to just 220,000 yen also fed a sense that “in the end, the court didn’t treat it as that serious after all.”

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Hiroshima High Court] Forced to listen to her boss badmouth coworkers almost daily, she developed an adjustment disorder… Woman who argued “badmouthing others is still harassment” wins reversal in court.”

  • PS5’s Wolverine Hits 39% Off at GEO — Brand New, Less Than a Month After Launch

    New copies of the PS5 action game Marvel’s Wolverine are being sold at GEO for 39% off list price, less than a month after release — and it’s become a hot topic on 5ch. Thread posters pointed to the game’s first-week sales in Japan of roughly 20,000 units, a 75% drop from Marvel’s Spider-Man 2’s 77,348, along with a Metascore of 75 and a 60% sales decline in Europe, sparking debate over the reasons behind both the rapid price drop and the weak sales. Discussion also touched on the game’s large development budget and the sales structure in which PS5 titles that don’t sell through in their opening week tend to see prices collapse quickly.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:09
    Store
    Online
    List price info
    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:09
    And this was supposed to be Insomniac's passion project…
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:10
    Wasn't the Metascore of 75 just the press being spiteful, when user reviews were actually good!?
    Instead of word-of-mouth driving a slow climb in sales, even the new-copy price is just grinding straight down ;;
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:12
    Wait, this only came out pretty recently, right?
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:12
    980 yen is about the right price for this, honestly
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:13
    That's way too big a drop from Spider-Man 2…

    First-week sales
    ■Japan: -75%
    PS5 Marvel's Spider-Man 2
    77,348 units

    ↓

    PS5 Marvel's Wolverine
    20,000 units


    ■Europe: -60%
    https://i.imgur.com/IpYZcja.jpe
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:23
    Re: #13
    "Wolverine's just worse than Spider-Man" would actually be a fine excuse — if they hadn't blown $300 million making it
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:13
    Wait, this just came out, right? This isn't an AI-generated image?
    That's genuinely shocking
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:14
    This is still mild — there's a ton of stock left, it's going to drop even further
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:15
    The real obstacle is that there's a crowd who screams "they're bashing it! smear campaign!" even when people are just stating facts
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:15
    It's only crushing retailers
    the publisher (wink wink) is doing just fine
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:17
    It's not even out there in that many copies, yet this many are being dumped? lol
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:25
    Re: #19
    Hint: they're "like-new" used copies (shinkohin — opened return stock resold as near-new)
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:18
    A game you just watch
    YouTube's good enough for this one
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:19
    So the price waterfall has begun (5ch slang for a price free-fall)
    Not much further to the bargain bin now
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:21
    For Japanese audiences, Wolverine is an X-Men movie character
    decades ago the movies gave him decent name recognition
    but these days he's probably just remembered as "the guy from the Deadpool movie"
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:22
    Because of the CERO Z (18+) rating, it's even doubtful this can go in the bargain bin
    This is retailer-killing at its finest
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:26
    Theory: Japanese gamers only care about Spider-Man and Batman
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:29
    Oh! A shop ripping people off with sky-high prices!
    Something game-shaped like this tops out at about 980 yen
    It's got that indie look, doesn't seem like money was spent anywhere in it
    Don't you dare try selling an indie-tier game at full price
    Go spend like $100 million making it first!
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:31
    Consoles should scrap physical packaging entirely, right now
    It's unbearable to look at no matter where you check
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:33
    It's almost been a month and it's still not half price — isn't that actually pretty good for a PS title?
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:33
    It dropped off the Famitsu charts while its sell-through rate was still marked green (low)
    Clearing out that stock is going to be rough
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:37
    Isn't the PS5's whole strength stuff like this — physical prices crashing fast? What happens once physical copies are gone?
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:49
    Re: #39
    I'd think retailers would actually welcome that — no more being stuck selling dead stock at a loss
    Because for PS titles, if it doesn't sell in week one, it's basically over
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:08
    Re: #39
    From the supplier's side, they want to kill off this early collapse in street price
    Once there's no competition left and it's download-only, prices get a lot easier to control than now
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:38
    There was just no room left to have fun with it
    You can sympathize with devs getting jerked around by the suits above, but it's hard to argue when people say this company is done
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:52
    Re: #1
    So on-brand for you to sneak in some promo for "Trash Musha" (ゴミ武者 — a mocking nickname posters use for another game) while you're at it lol

    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:09
    If this goes download-only, it'll probably just stay at full price forever — who's even going to buy it?
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:18
    Re: #59
    Once discs are gone, digital sale discounts will probably get stingier than they are now
    For PS software, there'll be no more competition — the PS Store price becomes the only price that exists

    Say, for example, Wolverine had instead launched sometime after 2028:
    then the only prices in existence would be the ¥8,980 list price and whatever sale price the publisher decides on
    Whether users would accept that price, who knows
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:09
    39% off in less than a month from release
    Is this a speed record for a price crash?
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:10
    Re: #60
    What about Beast-whatshisname?
    66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:18
    Well of course — it's selling fine as a download, so the physical version just isn't needed
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:22
    Re: #66
    How is it that SIE — the very company pushing "this is just the trend" — can't even manage it properly?
    If they actually understood the market they'd be holding back shipments
    69AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:23
    Re: #66
    https://store.playstation.com/ja-jp/category/d0446d4b-dc9a-4f1e-86ec-651f099c9b29/5?sortBy=sales30&sortOrder=desc
    Selling well as a download?
    Really?
    It only shows up on page 5
    82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:41
    As a practical matter, why do Nintendo titles keep selling for ages while PlayStation titles only sell for a split second?
    90AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:45
    Re: #82
    Same old answer as always: the standard for judging a game as a product has zero awareness of the "is it actually fun" category
    93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:49
    Trade-in value is still 2,000 yen, huh
    Both the buyback price and the sale price need to drop more before the stock clears out
    100AnonymousOct 11, 2026 21:02
    Re: #93
    Huh, is that so
    Dragon's Dogma 2 sitting at 1,500 yen during its launch week really is something else

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Physical game price crashes aren’t unusual on their own, but what stands out here is that a brand-new copy dropped nearly 40% in under a month from launch. The thread pointed to a difference in sales culture behind this: PS5 titles that don’t sell through in their first week tend to get dumped quickly by retailers trying to offload dead stock, whereas Nintendo titles tend to hold their list price much longer. There’s also a gap between the Metascore of 75 and hopes that word-of-mouth would drive steady sales growth, and the scale of the development budget (posters cited figures around $300 million) is shaping how people are reacting to the price collapse. Opinions also split on the merits of physical releases altogether — some argue going download-only would reduce retailers’ dead-stock risk, while others note it would make it harder for a real market price to form through sales, so behind this one price-drop story lies a broader disagreement over the distribution system itself.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry (Geha)) thread “[Sad News] Panned Game “Wolverine” Gets Dumped Brand-New at GEO for 39% Off List Price lololol“.

  • Tomorrow’s a Holiday — 5ch Splits Between “Everyone Else Is Off Too” and “I’m Back to Work”

    On the night of Sunday, October 11, a thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board (a freewheeling, anything-goes live-chat forum) turned to the subject of the next day’s public holiday. October 12, 2026 is “Sports Day,” a holiday that lands on a Monday under Japan’s “Happy Monday” system and also happens to be the last day of a three-day weekend. Some posters were savoring the break — “Watch some baseball, then do some tousuko tonight,” “Heading to see the Girls und Panzer movie tomorrow” — while others grumbled, “Everyone else is off again tomorrow? I’m back at my desk.” Opinions split cleanly along who actually gets the day off. Running alongside the holiday chatter were side conversations about who the favorite K-On! character is and the news that the online backlash against VTuber Shigure Ui had finally died down.

    8Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:00:59.19
    13Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:01:33.24
    14Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:01:34.68
    Which K-On! character is everyone's favorite? (K-On!: a slice-of-life anime about a high school light-music club)
    17Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:01:51.37
    Re: #14
    Don't watch anime, wouldn't know
    18Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:01:54.52
    My family's searching Jalan on a completely different computer, but Jalan ads (Jalan: a major Japanese travel-booking site) keep showing up on mine
    25Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:28.08
    Re: #18
    Just use Agoda instead
    20Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:04.36
    24Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:26.99
    Re: #20
    Okay, enough of this one
    It got posted earlier too and it's just plain creepy
    22Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:09.83
    Is it Oishinbo's fault you guys always rank food as 'superior' or 'inferior'? 😠 (Oishinbo: a long-running gourmet manga famous for its food-snobbery debates)
    28Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:40.40
    Re: #22
    Why do you think that is?
    27Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:02:31.11
    40Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:04:00.14
    42Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:04:10.96
    47Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:04:48.68

    61Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:06:54.81
    70Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:08:06.18
    73Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:08:35.19
    Re: #70
    I like that Fū-tan (a recurring meme character from the posted images) properly rings the intercom before showing up in the thread
    84Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:09:30.73
    Re: #70
    Something's off about the distance between where Fū-tan is standing and the intercom
    77Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:08:53.81
    Apparently he loves them both, so it's polygamy, I guess
    100Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:12:16.36
    Re: #77 Because it's Rika-chama (a cutesy baby-talk honorific), that's why
    104Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:13:35.59
    What even is this, lol
    105Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:14:20.04
    Re: #104
    Thought it was a rice-cracker shop's truck
    106Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:14:36.63
    Re: #104
    Was in that city not long ago and saw the truck too
    161Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:21:14.59
    164Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:21:40.65
    Ui's fire's safely out now, huh
    She didn't do anything wrong to begin with (referring to VTuber Shigure Ui's recent online backlash)
    171Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:22.90
    Re: #164
    What about Shigure-u's?
    181Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:57.52
    Re: #164
    We're the ones protecting Wii-mama (Shigure Ui's fan nickname), no doubt about it
    169Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:19.56
    Don't you guys have plans for the long weekend?
    176Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:42.25
    Re: #169
    Watch baseball, then <em>tousuko</em> at night (slang of unclear origin — likely a gaming or fandom term)
    177Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:51.72
    Re: #169
    Going to see the Girls und Panzer movie tomorrow
    179Anonymous2026/10/11 (Sun) 21:22:55.48
    Re: #169
    Everyone else is off again tomorrow? I'm back to work starting tomorrow

    Background and Talking Points

    October 12 (Monday) is “Sports Day,” the holiday that shifted from a fixed date to the second Monday of October when the “Happy Monday” system was introduced in 2000. What split the thread was a gap in temperature between those who get the day off and those who don’t: posts about catching a ballgame or heading to the Girls und Panzer movie sat right next to someone saying they’re back at their desk the next morning — a reminder that the perks of a long weekend aren’t shared evenly. Running alongside that debate were threads of conversation with nothing to do with the holiday at all: a debate over favorite K-On! characters, chatter that the backlash against VTuber Shigure Ui had cooled down, and exchanges about a mobile game’s live-stream screen. That’s typical of Nandemo Jikkyo G, a board where conversation drifts constantly instead of sticking to one subject. A few exchanges were left out of this writeup — jokes poking fun at posters’ looks or personal lives, plus some off-color humor — since those read as asides enabled by the board’s anonymity rather than part of the core holiday discussion.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “So It’s Sunday? Then Tomorrow Is…? (・o・🍬)🏰.”

  • Which manga artists refuse to sell out to pachinko? 5ch debates Akira Toriyama and Yasushi Akimoto

    A thread on 5ch named Akira Toriyama, Yasushi Akimoto, Osamu Tezuka, Rumiko Takahashi, and Eiichiro Oda as “manga artists who won’t sell their souls to pachinko.” But commenters immediately pounced on the fact that a supposed “top 3” list had five names on it, and pointed out that Akimoto isn’t even a manga artist — he’s only experienced pachinko adaptations as the original-story writer behind series like “Azuki-chan” — while the whole story about Toriyama refusing pachinko deals turned out to be an urban legend with no real source. The discussion then expanded into a broader debate: does getting turned into a pachinko machine prove a manga franchise is washed up, or can it extend a series’ popularity, as it seemingly did for Urusei Yatsura and Evangelion?

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:11
    Who's the fifth one, then?
    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:12
    There are machines for Ranma ½ and Maison Ikkoku, though
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:19
    Re: #2
    "Under the Cherry Blossoms" (a Maison Ikkoku machine bonus feature) was great, I used to play that one back in the day
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:37
    Re: #2
    Went to a pachinko parlor to kill time for the first time in about 10 years, found a Maison Ikkoku machine, gave it a spin, and immediately hit the jackpot — it just wouldn't stop paying out.
    Haven't set foot in a pachinko parlor since.
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:12
    Akimoto isn't a manga artist — there was even an AKB48 pachinko machine
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:32
    Re: #6
    But there's Azuki-chan
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:14
    Kochikame would be a nightmare to adapt since you'd need to cast so many characters
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:15
    Re: #13
    Having to bring in Lasalle Ishii or Shingo Katori (actors who've played Ryotsu in live-action) would be a hassle
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:15
    Re: #12
    Rumiko Takahashi is obviously bait for someone to call out
    I'm more worried about people like you
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:21
    Re: #19
    Bet you're the type to switch between Wi-Fi and your mobile carrier's data
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:17
    What manga did Akimoto even write…?
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:18
    Re: #23
    Well, as an original-story writer there's "Oh! My Konbu," though that's not the same as being a manga artist
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:20
    Re: #23
    I know Akimoto was the original-story writer for Azuki-chan
    108AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:56
    Re: #23
    Ririka SOS
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:20
    I read somewhere that Toriyama flatly refused pachinko deals
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:21
    Re: #33
    Turns out that story never actually happened — it's fiction
    Well, even something like a billion yen from pachinko wouldn't be much compared to what he's probably already earning anyway
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:24
    Re: #33
    Maybe it wasn't Toriyama himself but his manager who turned it down?
    It'd hurt the toy merchandising image
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:21
    Momoko Sakura
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:21
    Re: #37
    Kojikoji's in one
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:22
    Re: #37
    Yeah, there actually is a Kojikoji machine
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:22
    Re: #37
    Kojikoji-kun
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:35
    The Shonen Magazine crowd is brutal
    They'll turn a series into pachinko even while it's still running
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:37
    Re: #53
    I've been waiting forever for Get Backers — hurry up and make it into a pachinko machine already
    61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:38
    Re: #53
    At this point getting a pachinko machine is just the default once something's a hit
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:39
    Re: #53
    Is there a Hajime no Ippo pachinko machine?
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:35
    Were there ever any machines based on Shinji Mizushima's manga?
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:36
    Re: #54
    There's Dokaben
    As a pachislot machine
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:43
    Re: #54
    The Gen-5 Dokaben pachislot machine (referring to Japan's 5th-generation slot-machine regulations)
    56AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:36
    Honestly, nothing becoming a pachinko or pachislot machine would surprise me anymore

    57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:36
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:39
    Re: #58
    Didn't think there was a pachinko machine based on a Shin Kibayashi story, but then there's Psychometrer Eiji
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:42
    Re: #63
    Surprising, given how many hits he's churned out
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:41
    Takahashi's best machines were the Okumura/Sammy Urusei Yatsura series — pure god-tier
    Once Newgin took over the license it turned to trash
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:43
    Re: #65
    Pachislot Urusei Yatsura 2 stayed faithful to the manga's character designs — honestly the best machine in every sense
    93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:48
    Re: #65
    Newgin's license is tied to the anime rights, which makes things complicated
    Sammy and Okumura hold the manga rights
    66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:41
    This has been said for ages, but any IP that gets turned into pachinko is basically washed up
    That's exactly why IPs with real future potential avoid it — getting pachinko'd would hurt their image
    73AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:43
    Re: #66
    Takahashi's works, Evangelion, Madoka Magica — it's the exact opposite for them
    If anything, pachinko extended their lifespan
    106AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:56
    Re: #73
    It didn't extend anything
    Takahashi machines were never actually popular
    And Madoka Magica only ever had the one hit slot machine — the original

    Background and points of debate

    The pachinko and pachislot industry’s main revenue driver is “licensed machines” built on the rights to popular manga and anime, which also brings licensing fees to the original creators — though whether a creator grants permission often comes down to the image strategy for the work or its author. The story that Akira Toriyama refused pachinko adaptations is often repeated online, but no primary source quoting Toriyama himself has been confirmed, and commenters in the thread pointed out that “in reality there was no such story — it turned out to be fiction.” Yasushi Akimoto, meanwhile, isn’t a manga artist at all; he has only experienced pachinko adaptations as the original-story writer behind works like “Azuki-chan” and “Ririka SOS,” so the original lineup was questionable to begin with. The thread’s central disagreement is whether getting turned into a pachinko machine signals an IP is washed up, or whether it can extend a franchise’s life the way it reportedly did for Urusei Yatsura and Evangelion — though it’s worth noting that neither side backed their claims with concrete sales data, keeping the debate in the realm of impressions rather than facts.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Top 3 Manga Artists Who Won’t Sell Their Souls to Pachinko: “Akira Toriyama,” “Yasushi Akimoto,” “Osamu Tezuka,” “Rumiko Takahashi,” “Eiichiro Oda”.”

  • Mario Kart World Called ‘Not Fun’ — 5ch Overwhelmingly Agrees

    An article arguing that Mario Kart World “isn’t fun” was picked up on 5ch, sparking a wide reaction on the Hardware/Industry board (Geha). In the thread, many commenters agreed with the criticism that adjusted drop rates for comeback items have turned the game into a “misfortune-avoidance contest,” and with the complaint that the new wall-riding mechanic favors advanced players and raises the skill barrier. On the other hand, some pushed back, noting that the core gameplay still carries over from previous Mario Kart titles and remains plenty enjoyable if you don’t care about competitive play — opinions split largely along how people judged the new features.

    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:53
    For what it's worth, the take is apparently too spot-on to generate much thread activity on Geha.
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:53
    Mario Kart 8 felt like the series' crowning achievement, so this is rough. The next Smash Bros. is probably going to be in the same tough spot.
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:54
    We don't need the hardcore try-hards, they can just quit.
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:56
    Honestly, ever since the "Craptendo Switch 2" (a mocking nickname for the Switch 2) came out, there hasn't been a single game better than its predecessor.
    Sales are obviously nowhere close to the previous installment either.
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:56
    8 Deluxe was just too well put-together, honestly.
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:18
    Re: #7
    That game was the culmination of the whole series, content volume included.
    World completely fails to put its open-world scale to any real use as a main feature, and the new wall-riding mechanic is basically pro-only, which just widens the skill gap even more.
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:56
    First place comes down to luck: in rooms where everyone's skill level is close, it's decided by "how well you dodged spiny shells, red shells, lightning, random hits, junk items, getting stomped on," etc. It's not the satisfying kind of comeback randomness you get in mahjong or Pokémon — it's turned into a misfortune-avoidance tournament. Especially after the latest update dropped the lightning drop rate, comeback mechanics and strategic exchanges have basically disappeared.

    If comeback mechanics and strategic exchanges have basically disappeared, isn't that just… a skill-based match then? 🤔
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:58
    Is complaining about a Nintendo game some kind of forbidden act?
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 14:58
    For starters, just let us do a normal 3-lap race.
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:00
    Re: #10
    Keep the elimination mode, where you're knocked out if you don't place high enough, on the current courses.
    For everyone else, they should've just made a normal 3-lap course option — Nintendo's kind of dumb for not doing that.
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:01
    The director who worked on the Mario Kart series for ages ended up leaving the company too, huh.
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:02
    It's a flood of creepy shortcuts you have to grind to even have a chance at winning.
    Full of creepy players who won't attack their friends but gang up on everyone else.
    The "Look at me! I got attacked by this guy so I tailed and sabotaged him the whole race!" posts you occasionally see on X are genuinely creepy.
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:08
    Why would anyone get this serious about a game like this?
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:24
    All I see on my feed are wall-riding clips, so I'm hesitant to buy it.
    I think people are getting turned off because it looks hard.
    Also it's expensive.
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:28
    Re: #26
    If you're not thinking about competitive play, you don't need wall-riding and it's not hard — as long as you're not thinking about competitive play.

    In that case 8 Deluxe is just fine, isn't it.
    100AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:13
    Re: #26
    Watch a tutorial video and you'll pick it up right away.
    It's genuinely fun, I'd recommend it.
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:24
    Other games keep getting better while Nintendo's just stuck in place. They added the rally courses and I played them once or twice and that was it.
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 15:26
    Re: #27
    Nintendo's literally the only company that managed to put out two Metascore-89 games this year, though.
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:25
    Mokou's Mario Kart commentary videos are the most entertaining, hands down. (Mokou is a popular Japanese gaming streamer)
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:36
    Re: #50
    Futon-chan's are funnier though. (another well-known streamer)
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:58
    Re: #50
    I still watch 8 Deluxe commentary videos to this day.
    World just isn't fun.
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:30
    Long-running series start out highly polished
    ↓
    In Mario Kart World, basically every new feature gets panned
    ↓
    But if you just carry over the already-polished previous entry and refine it further, you get stagnation and diminishing returns
    Breath of the Wild → Tears of the Kingdom is a textbook example of that

    This is exactly why Nintendo consoles, whose sales lean so heavily on a handful of first-party titles, haven't sold well for two generations running.
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:08
    Re: #51
    New Mario Kart features get panned every single time and eventually get cut, though.
    Two-player riding, special items, wheelies, underwater sections, half-gravity — those are still around, but personally I hate the glider too (it got better in 8 once recovery sped up).
    This time the 24-player races, the open world, and the rail wall-riding all feel like they're dragging the game down in a pretty flashy way.

    Re: #66
    Dropping the ability to hold two items at once made no sense. They didn't even fix that until Deluxe.
    61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:21
    It's a weird game — treated like a flop, but it's quietly selling well.

    I'm not into the competitive scene, so I'm actually enjoying it more than 8 Deluxe.
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:39
    Re: #61
    Even if the features added in World are a miss, everything else is still proper Mario Kart underneath, so it sells.
    66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:58
    8 actually had a bad reputation too, you know.
    It's also where the series turned into a "mushroom boost spam" game.

    Though I'll give them credit, the highlight reel feature was a clever idea.
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:10
    Granted, the original Mario Kart 8 is indefensible, but World is totally playable.
    Even the complaint in Re: #1 just reads like it's coming from someone half-committed — not serious enough to actually try, but still can't stand having a low rating.
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:14
    Re: #70
    Ringomochi is a streamer who actually played pretty seriously.
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 18:18
    Re: #70
    Do full 24-player lobbies still fill up quickly even now?
    95AnonymousOct 11, 2026 19:53
    It's hard to deny that pretty much every feature unique to World has flopped.
    96AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:00
    Re: #95
    Isn't Survival mode pretty fun though?
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 20:07
    Honestly, if you're just going to complain, I feel like you should go play 8 Deluxe instead.
    I don't play either since I hate racing games, but is there some clear reason 8 Deluxe won't cut it?
    Smash Bros. is scary because fatal online lag turns it into a different game entirely, so if the new one flops there's no going back — but this is Mario Kart we're talking about, right?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Mario Kart World is the latest entry in the series, released in 2025, and it introduces major new features such as 24-player simultaneous races, open-world course traversal, and rail-based wall-riding. What split opinion in the thread was mainly how to judge these new features. Many pointed out that while wall-riding is something anyone can learn with practice, it ends up favoring more advanced players and widening the skill gap, raising the barrier to entry. There was also notable criticism that adjusting the drop rates of comeback items like the lightning bolt has made matches among top-tier players come down to “how much bad luck you managed to avoid,” making the role of randomness a central point of debate. On the other hand, some argued that the core controls and handling still carry over from previous Mario Kart games and remain plenty enjoyable as long as you’re not fixated on competitive play — it’s worth noting that dissatisfaction with the new features and evaluation of the core gameplay are being discussed as two separate threads of opinion.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “An article saying Mario Kart World isn’t fun is going viral for being too on-point.”