Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Why Live in France? Hiroyuki Gives a Blunt Answer — 5ch: “That’s Not Even an Answer to the Question”

    On the 11th, entrepreneur Hiroyuki (Hiroyuki Nishimura) posted on X (formerly Twitter) a reply to the question, “Why do you keep living in France, where riots keep breaking out and security is a growing concern?” His answer amounted to a theory of social movements: protests where activists just loiter in front of parliament get ignored and nothing changes, but once a protest causes real disruption — blocking roads and schools — the government finally gets moving. On 5ch, commenters quickly pointed out that “he was asked why he lives there, but his answer doesn’t actually address that,” and the thread went on to speculate about the circumstances of his move to France and his past controversies.

    Hiroyuki Gives a Blunt Answer to “Why Live in France, Where Riots Keep Breaking Out and Security Is a Concern?”

    Entrepreneur Hiroyuki Nishimura (49) updated his X (formerly Twitter) account on the 11th, addressing his reasons for continuing to live in France.

    Hiroyuki remarked on France’s large-scale protests, saying: “When activists just loiter in front of parliament, it gets ignored and nothing in society changes. It’s when roads and schools get blocked and people are genuinely inconvenienced that the government finally drags itself into action. A social movement nobody complains about is the same as doing nothing.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:26
    Totally missed the question
    They asked why he lives there
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:49
    Re: #2
    Maybe his own neighborhood is safe, so it just doesn't affect him?
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:57
    Re: #2
    Come on, read between the lines lol
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:27
    Well, Paris Fashion Week and everything still runs just fine there
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:28
    Well, in Japan they just send the cops in to tackle anyone causing a nuisance
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:31
    Seems like you'd get hit with a ton of discrimination there though
    Though I guess money solves most problems lol
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:31
    Hiroyuki: "Good, good — nobody's figured out yet that I actually live in Southeast Asia."
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:07
    Re: #11
    If he were living in Singapore as one of life's winners,
    I'd be like "Oh!? Nice one!"
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:31
    Probably rough for people who commute,
    but if you're the type who just stays holed up at home, maybe it doesn't really affect you that much?
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:34
    Re: #1
    He's defending France's protests by saying a demonstration is meaningless unless it actually inconveniences people,
    but then it's only the areas where the protests are happening that have bad security, while his own neighborhood carries on as normal —
    doesn't that mean, by his own logic, it's not a real protest unless it disrupts Hiroyuki's own neighborhood too?
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:52
    Re: #15
    It's not his problem, is it
    He's just sticking his nose in
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:38
    There's no way you can live a decent life in France.
    Security's pretty bad, the streets are filthy, and there's no air conditioning.
    It's basically a punishment game.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:39
    Is he really living in France?
    I bet he's actually somewhere around Nippori (a working-class Tokyo neighborhood)
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:43
    Re: #19
    "The London of Gunma" was fun while it lasted (a joking nickname for a spot back in Japan)
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:41
    He didn't give a straight answer at all, and if he really lives in France he should quit meddling in Japanese politics
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:41
    Idiots think whatever's on TV cameras is all there is to France lol
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:47
    Re: #21
    Not just France — footage from any country abroad is only ever the part they're willing to show you lol
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:41
    You don't even need to go there to know Paris is trash
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:44
    This guy probably ran off and is actually back in Japan right now lol
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:59
    Re: #24
    He goes on about "why I walked away from 2channel," playing himself up as some carefree guy with no attachments,
    but it turns out he never actually gave it up — it just descended into an ugly rights dispute, which was kind of funny

    He keeps claiming he has no desire for money, power, or fame,
    but honestly he seems to crave money, power, and fame more than anyone
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:44
    France is a country that was founded through riots and revolution.
    Because of that history, what they're doing is simply being true to what France is.
    The question of whether to live there or not comes after you understand that.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:47
    Wow, the "I live in France" bit is still going, huh
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:47
    Same with flooding news in Japan — apparently the media just stakes out spots ahead of time that are geographically prone to flooding
    89AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:42
    Re: #28
    Yeah, there's no point watching the news then
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:49
    There's also the flip side — reforms don't move forward precisely because riots keep happening
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:49
    If that's the case, he should just stop poking his nose into Japan's affairs from so far away
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:50
    Well, it's over the moment guys like this cut and run
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:59
    Re: #1
    What, it's not even "because the food's great" lol
    Well, if I had unlimited money too, I'd probably split my time between Paris and London.
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:59
    No matter what state France ends up in,
    he's lectured everyone so smugly about it for so long
    that he can't back down now even if he wanted to
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:06
    He was also adamant that "Chinese, go [home]" graffiti wasn't discrimination either
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:09
    Re: #56
    There's probably a name for this in psychology — wanting so badly to believe the choice you made wasn't wrong that you end up ignoring its flaws, or just affirming it no matter what

    Like, you justify yourself by convincing yourself that wherever you didn't choose, or where you used to be, must be bad, while the place you did choose must be great
    63AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:14
    He answered somewhere before that it was because his wife said she wanted France
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 11:19
    Re: #63
    Apparently she actually wanted to live in Canada,
    but Hiroyuki went ahead and decided on France instead

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Hiroyuki is an entrepreneur and media personality who, after his time running Nico Nico Douga and the former 2channel, now publicly lives in France, and his posts on X (formerly Twitter) are frequently picked up as news. This particular post was framed by the original article’s headline as “his answer to why he lives in France,” but the actual content stuck to his personal theory about how protests and social movements function within France, and never directly answered the question of why he personally lives there. On 5ch, commenters flagged this disconnect early on, after which the discussion drifted into speculation about his actual living situation and his past history (including the dispute over control of the old 2channel). This article leaves out posts that state unverified claims about money troubles or legal matters as fact, one-sided blanket judgments about specific countries or cities, and posts carrying political labels, sticking instead to a summary of his remarks and the reactions to them.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Express+) thread “Hiroyuki Gives a Blunt Answer to “Why Live in France, Where Riots Keep Breaking Out and Security Is a Concern?”“.

  • Rakuningo Names Kirin’s Akira Kawashima as Showbiz’s “Kindest Senior Comedian”

    Comedian-turned-physical-therapist Rakuningo (47) appeared on a YouTube channel run by a Kabukicho host and named, by name, the “kindest senior comedian in showbiz” — Kirin’s Akira Kawashima. On the thread, praise piled up for Kawashima being “great at reading the room” and “a master of social navigation,” but the conversation soon shifted to debating the reputation of Rakuningo himself, the one making the claim, splitting opinion.

    Rakuningo Names By Name the “Kindest Senior Comedian in Showbiz” — “He’s such a good person it brings tears to your eyes”

    Comedian and physical therapist Rakuningo (47) appeared, in a video updated by the 12th, on “TKG Channel,” the YouTube channel of Takuma, who runs the Kabukicho host club group “Shin Su You Group.” He named, by name, the “kindest senior comedian in showbiz.”

    Shingo spent the day eating with Takuma and others, sharing various behind-the-scenes showbiz stories and keeping the mood lively.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:24
    Honestly, watching Osaka night-view channels on YouTube beats watching the Peace-kun camera at Omiya Park any day.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:26
    Was he being targeted?
    Did he get hit with a "Love Injection"? (Rakuningo's old catchphrase gag)
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:26
    Shingo's actually got some height on him, you know (tappa = slang for height).
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:27
    Kawashima doesn't seem like the womanizing type.
    Not like N — being a womanizer over at that confectionery company isn't what you'd call "kind."
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:31
    You can tell just from watching Lovit!
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:31
    What about his partner, Tamura?
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:45
    His partner's been MIA on TV lately, like he's dead — did he do something?
    Or does he just not get booked anymore?
    Honestly, I'd forgotten his name.
    Re: #13 Oh, Tamura, right?
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:51
    Re: #13
    If you mean Tamura Masako, she's right there next to him every day (a different Tamura — the newscaster).
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:10
    Re: #13
    Heard he plays basketball like 8 days a week (so, basically nonstop).
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:31
    He's trusted to MC shows, so he's probably someone who's genuinely good at reading the room.
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:35
    Re: #16
    Nakai: "That's right, don'tcha know." (riffing on Nakai Masahiro's dialect catchphrase)
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Being nice to a guy who was getting full of himself back then is no good, don'tcha know. The senior who scolded him properly was the good one, don'tcha know.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Re: #21
    Kawashima gives off the image of someone skilled at social navigation. If it's someone from a rival agency, he probably just keeps up a friendly face.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Still, he's just not funny as a comedian.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:36
    Re: #22
    Kawashima? That's way too much of a contrarian take.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:36
    Eh, so-so.
    Well, compared to that hypocrite Date,
    he's probably more decent.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:36
    Kawashima really pays attention to the people around him and has great balance — kind of enviable.
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Being nice to someone sketchy doesn't really boost your rating that much.
    32AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    Maybe it's exactly because he's a good guy that people gave him chances back when he was the "other one" in the duo (the less prominent half).
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:43
    Kawashima's pretty much as you'd expect.
    But what about Shitara, who's always scowling in the reaction cutaway shots (the little inset "wipe" reaction clips on variety shows)?
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:45
    Re: #35
    Kawashima's an "M" type (easygoing, takes it). Shitara's a hardcore "S" type (dominant).
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:53
    That guy's just not funny.


    Being earnest doesn't make you a comedian.
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:54
    Honestly, who cares what celebrities' personalities are like.

    Background and Talking Points

    Rakuningo became known around 2009 for his catchphrase gag “Love Injection,” and he now works as a physical therapist. Kirin’s Akira Kawashima, the comedian named in his story, has built a reputation as an MC on shows like “Lovit!” for his attentiveness and social savvy. What became the real talking point on the thread wasn’t Kawashima’s character so much as the reputation of Rakuningo himself, the one making the claim. Rakuningo is known as a polarizing figure because of his past conduct, and comments like “this praise doesn’t really raise my opinion of him” or “if anything, it makes Kawashima look worse” reflect how attention shifted from the content of the testimony to the standing of the person giving it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[Entertainment] Rakuningo Names By Name the “Kindest Senior Comedian in Showbiz” — “He’s such a good person it brings tears to your eyes”.”

  • Autumn Festival’s 50-Yen Fries: Resident Who Skipped Neighborhood Dues Demands a Cut-Rate Deal Too — 5ch Says ‘Just Make It a Ticket System’

    At an autumn festival selling fries for 50 yen, a resident who hadn’t paid their neighborhood association dues reportedly demanded, “Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — an anecdote published by FORZA STYLE that drew a flood of responses on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. Since the festival’s running costs come out of association dues, opinions split on whether non-members should pay the same price, and the thread saw a string of concrete proposals, from member-only discount tickets to redeemable coupons passed around via neighborhood circulars. Others simply suggested scrapping the festival altogether.

    FORZA STYLE

    “Humor is a gentleman’s virtue”

    “Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — the resident who brazenly shows up to the autumn festival despite unpaid dues, and the shocking response to “Who do you think paid for this?”

    Source: forzastyle.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:29
    What part of this is even news?
    And it's so long, too.
    183AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:12
    Re: #2
    Can't read long sentences, lol

    [Trending] Can netizens no longer read even a single line? People who just can't hold a conversation anymore — some say "they just want to criticize" ★2 [Hiii★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1780060942/
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:33
    Maybe collect money from association members upfront and issue them cheap tickets in advance,
    then set a higher price for walk-up buyers on the day.
    218AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:20
    Re: #13
    That might actually work
    Hand out a "festival passport" to people who've paid their dues, and sell to them at a member price lower than the posted general price
    Even flashing a festival passport would probably be fun for the kids
    250AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:32
    Re: #13
    A priority-ticket system would solve a lot of this
    If you're not a member, you wouldn't even know about it anyway

    But the shameless types would probably just ask a member to buy tickets for them
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:33
    Put a price tag like 300 yen on it,
    hand out tickets through the neighborhood association,
    and give a discount to anyone holding one
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Re: #14
    A voucher feels fairer and easier to accept than a straight handout
    241AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:29
    Re: #14
    They should just do this. Hand out tickets to members, and charge non-members roughly a year's worth of association dues for it.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Impressive that they can tell who's a member just by looking at their face
    Must be a neighborhood of like 100 people
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:35
    Re: #15
    Actually you can't say that
    There was a ruling that you're allowed to put out trash even without paying association dues
    since it's the city that collects it
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Re: #16
    They chase down the non-payers, so everyone knows their faces
    Re: #20
    That might be true if the city set up the trash collection point, but where I live the neighborhood association set it up, and the stance is non-members have to deal with the city directly and haul it to a facility themselves
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    Re: #20
    Then why not just move the collection point onto a member's private property?
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Re: #28
    Uh… that's a level of garbage situation I wouldn't want to live with either way…
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    Re: #29
    Guess that's the worst-case rural example, Kagoshima City huh

    In Kagoshima City, even residents who aren't in a neighborhood association legally have the right to have their trash collected by the city. However, local garbage stations are often run by the neighborhood association, which covers the land permission, management, and cleaning costs, so denying this right can become illegal and lead to disputes.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:46
    Re: #57
    Trash management of all things
    Such a rural-area thing
    146AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:01
    Re: #57
    Just don't freeload then
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:38
    Honestly, neighborhood association festivals aren't even necessary
    Just let whoever wants to do it get together and hold it in a park
    161AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:06
    Re: #41
    The point is that non-members show up to buy from the festival that's already happening, isn't it
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:39
    They should just issue discount coupons with a serial number and the member's name printed on them for people who've paid their association dues,

    and only display the non-member price at the stall
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:40
    Re: #46
    Who's going to bother doing something that tedious
    Honestly nobody even wants to run the festival in the first place, lol
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:48
    "Members: 50 yen"
    "General public: 500 yen" would be fine
    Dual pricing is becoming pretty normal these days
    90AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:49
    Re: #84
    You've gotta stay flexible about that kind of thing
    There are plenty of jerks out there after all
    93AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:49
    Tasteless writing, lol

    You can actually get paid to write this?
    121AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:55
    Re: #93
    It's a technique where they deliberately leave in things to nitpick so the thread keeps growing
    They've gotten clever about it
    101AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:51
    Isn't the simplest fix just handing out 50-yen redemption coupons to households that pay their dues?
    And if you still want to sell to the kid from a non-paying household, fine, just don't complain about it at all afterward. Honestly this whole thing just looks like someone pulling an attention-seeking move because they wanted something to complain about.
    115AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:54
    Re: #101
    Say you give out 5 coupons per household
    The kid might just hand some to a non-member friend
    That just makes things more complicated
    103AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:52
    With apartment buildings in Tokyo, you can never tell if there's even a neighborhood association or not
    Nobody ever says anything either way
    181AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:11
    Re: #103
    There is one, but it's almost always explicitly limited to households that pay the residents'/neighborhood association fees! ← this part matters
    107AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:52
    Ah I see
    So switching to a local currency instead of cash would solve it

    Not 50 yen, but 50 Gold
    To get Gold, please pay your neighborhood association dues

    But
    that sounds like a hassle
    129AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:56
    Re: #107
    Same problem as the coupons though — if it gets passed around to someone else, it spirals out of control
    123AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:55
    Re: #97
    My neighborhood association passes notices around to non-member households too, for what it's worth
    Things like road construction notices
    or bear sightings and Namahage attack warnings (Namahage: folklore demon-like figures from Akita who visit homes during New Year's events)
    144AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:00
    Re: #123
    Akita Prefecture folks are so kind
    My neighborhood skips those houses
    figuring they're people who don't want to be involved with any of that
    Luckily neither bears nor Namahage have attacked us
    128AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:56
    My neighborhood association lets you pay triple instead — pay triple and you don't have to do anything
    Dues are 2,700 yen a year, so I pay 8,100 yen — for dual-income couples that's honestly better
    than getting dragged into trash cleanup duty on your day off
    The old folks use that money to buy tea and have get-togethers with people they know, too
    And they still give out snacks during the Jizo-bon festival (a local Buddhist-rooted summer festival honoring the guardian deity Jizo)
    134AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:58
    Re: #128
    Solving it with money is the way to go

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Joining a neighborhood association is legally voluntary rather than mandatory, but in many municipalities association dues effectively fund local infrastructure like festivals and garbage collection points, which naturally breeds a sense of unfairness toward non-members. On trash collection specifically, as the Kagoshima City example raised in the thread illustrates, municipal collection itself extends to non-members, but in cases where the neighborhood association sets up and manages the garbage station, non-members can be refused access — and where that legal line falls varies by region. The thread split over who should bear the cost and hassle of setting up member pricing: some proposed concrete fixes like ticket systems or redemption coupons passed through neighborhood circulars, while skeptics argued it would just create more administrative work. Whether to join a neighborhood association is ultimately each person’s own choice, but the fairness question — once you factor in how festival revenue is actually structured — turns out to be far less settled than it looks, and isn’t something a simple “cheater or not” framing can resolve.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[FORZA] “Sell my family fries for 50 yen too” — the resident who brazenly shows up to the autumn festival despite unpaid dues, and the shocking response to “Who do you think paid for this?”.”

  • High Schooler Asks “Gaming PC or PS5?” — 5ch Reacts: “If You Have to Ask, You Can’t Handle a PC”

    A post believed to be from a high school student, asking on X (formerly Twitter) “Which do you think is better, a gaming PC or a PS5?”, was reposted to 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (“Geha”) board and drew a lot of reactions. Gaming PCs offer higher performance, but even a mid-range graphics card alone tends to run around 200,000 yen, making the total cost steep — whereas a PS5 can be had for about 60,000 yen. The thread saw a clash between people pointing out the harsh reality of PC pricing and people recommending a PC as an investment in the future (for things like AI and programming), with opinions split over which one to pick.

    Which do you guys think is better, a gaming PC or a PS5? Asking as a high schooler. Want to hear everyone’s opinions.

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:29
    Probably stuff like Apex, Valorant, Genshin, Tarkov 😭

    https://x.com/mirai_toki19/status/2108832211998814344
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:33
    There's no way a high schooler can afford a gaming PC these days.
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:36
    Re: #5
    A rig with a ~200,000 yen RTX 5060 Ti would be fine, but yeah, that's still pricey.
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:40
    Re: #7
    First off, your parents would flip out. They'd tell you to at least get one "for studying."
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:35
    lol "gaming PC" is so lame lol. For the future, a normal PC is the way to go lol
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:37
    If you can afford it, get a PC.
    If you can't, get a PlayStation.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:37
    If you really wanted to game on PC, even middle schoolers pick out cheap parts themselves and build a rig watching YouTube tutorials.
    If you're still asking other people for advice as a high schooler, you should just get a PS and be done with it.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:41
    Coming from a board full of grown men who are scared of and hate PCs, a high schooler even considering this has way more potential for the future.
    Picking PS5 here is step one on the road to becoming a "geha" loser (a console-war obsessive).
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:41
    Just install Office on the gaming PC, problem solved ☺
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:44
    Smart move is to game on the Switch 2 and use a PC to learn AI.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:52
    Re: #14
    The Switch 2's specs are way too trash, so that's out of the question.
    You need a high-spec PC for AI stuff too.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:47
    Re: #1
    Stop gaming all the time and study instead.
    You'll end up like the middle-aged man-children ("kodoji") on this board.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:52
    Re: #18
    What a rude guy.
    Even if you study, you end up like this anyway.
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:34
    Just be smart about it — PS5, Switch 2, whatever, if you want to game right now you're better off going console.
    Most new PC gamers these days are entitled trash with a victim complex: their own setup is bad, but they go trash-talk manufacturers, flood reviews, and freely harass dev staff. From an actual PC user's perspective, they're seriously just a nuisance.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:45
    Re: #34
    But there are plenty of games you can't play on console.
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:40
    Re: #37
    Just touching a PC doesn't make you good at engineering, you know.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:45
    Re: #38
    I dunno, I think there's a real difference.
    I've seen engineering grads who don't even know what the IPA is (Japan's IT certification body), so there's definitely an initial learning curve.
    Kids who are already used to computers can spin up a Docker setup right away.
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:59
    He wants other people's opinions, but the fact that PS5 is even one of the options shows his thinking is already biased.
    Even the sensible answer isn't going to get through to him.
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:03
    Re: #50
    That's not biased, is it? If he's after AAA titles, PS5 looks like a perfectly legitimate option to weigh against it.
    For instance, if not PS5, what else would YOU even put on the scale against a gaming PC?
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:13
    Re: #50
    Sounds like you're the one with biased ideology, not biased thinking.
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:06
    Re: #52
    PS5 wouldn't even enter the picture as an option in the first place.
    The only real question is what tier of PC to get.
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:33
    Depends on the person.
    But if you're the kind of person who asks a dumb question like "which is better, gaming PC or PS5?", I think PS5 is fine for you.

    If you were genuinely interested in PC gaming,
    you'd at least have some idea of what you want to do with it,
    so normally you wouldn't even ask which one is "better."
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:50
    Re: #64
    Exactly this.
    The moment you're asking other people, a PC is 100% not happening for you.
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:48
    If gaming is your only goal, isn't PS5 fine? For the same performance it's cheaper than a PC.
    Though buying a lower-spec PC at the same price is also worth recommending.
    75AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:05
    Re: #66
    Going all-in on gaming from high school on is a one-way ticket to rock bottom 🥺

    You'd be better off buying a PC and putting in the effort to ride the AI wave 😎
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:57
    Over on X it's unanimous — everyone's telling him to buy a PS5.
    That's the correct answer.
    A high schooler who comes in with a full-blown victim complex from the very start is out of the question.
    73AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:01
    Re: #71
    Thinking about the future, it's better to buy a PC and get used to it now.

    PC, hands down.
    Honestly, you'll barely need a smartphone at home anymore.
    You'll start noticing how inconvenient phones actually are.
    Plus there's a chance it ties into a future job.

    A PC can do a lot, but it's insanely expensive — probably close to 400,000 yen these days.
    If it's just gaming and some light streaming, a PS5 (around 60,000 yen) covers it.

    Pick whichever one doesn't strain your budget.


    Where, exactly, is that "the correct answer"?
    86AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:20
    Re: #73
    No way, no way.
    This reminds me — during Monster Hunter Rise, a high-school viewer asked streamer Shaka (a popular Japanese streamer) on stream, "Shaka, can I buy the PC with your collab 3090 in it?" and Shaka himself shut it down immediately.
    Told the kid to spend his money on things that actually suit a high schooler instead of buying a PC.
    There's a clip on YouTube, go look it up.
    That's what a normal adult response looks like.
    If something goes wrong, who's supposed to deal with it? Way too many people who recommend PCs are just irresponsible.
    87AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:21
    Re: #86
    No, it's not "no way, no way" — the point is that your claim, "on X it's unanimous, everyone says buy a PS5," is just a flat-out lie.
    89AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:24
    Re: #86
    And there it is — the mystery phrase "if something goes wrong with a PC…"
    This is the one thing I will never, ever agree with, seriously.

    "If there's trouble with a PC…" — trouble like what, exactly?
    It's just a vague, fuzzy phrase with zero specifics that looks like it's only there to stir up needless anxiety.
    77AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:12
    If you want to get a feel for current gaming culture, I'd say Switch 2 — because Nintendo games are only playable there, and sales figures show it staying in a near-monopoly position.
    If you already have a cheap desktop PC and you're not into mouse-based gaming, PS5 works too, but if you're doing FPS-type games, PC is the only real option.
    Personally I don't game on PC, so I use a PS5.
    91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:25
    Back in the day there was a company called Sega that made consoles too, you know — an era when most people around you had PlayStation or Nintendo hardware.
    Even if you owned something nobody else had, like a Neo Geo, you'd still want to just talk normally with your friends about the newest Pokémon game, right? It's a communication tool too.
    Being able to play together with everyone else is a real strength.
    93AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:26
    Re: #91
    Even so, the Switch 2's specs are trash and there are a lot of games you can't play on it, so it's out of the question.
    97AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:28
    A PC starts getting pretty dicey after about 5 years too, though.
    Parts gradually start wearing down,
    and once the storage starts throwing errors you have to replace it.
    As the whole system generation moves on — CPU, memory — you end up needing a new motherboard too,
    and the power supply degrades as well, so you basically end up replacing the entire thing anyway.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mid-range GPUs for gaming PCs (like the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti) have climbed to around 200,000 yen in street price in recent years due to semiconductor supply issues and the weak yen, putting them out of easy reach for students. A PS5, by contrast, can be bought for about 60,000 yen, and if the goal is simply playing AAA titles, it offers strong value for money. The thread split between a “pragmatist” camp arguing that if gaming is the goal you should pick based on cost-effectiveness, and a “future investment” camp arguing you should get used to a PC now as an investment toward AI use and programming skills — the latter view reflecting the recent AI boom. Worth noting: this thread originated on a board with a long-standing, deep-rooted rivalry between PC and console camps — the Hardware/Industry board, nicknamed “Geha” (short for “game hardware”) — so declarations like “on X it’s unanimous that PS5 is recommended” should be read with the awareness that this board’s culture tends to attract fairly one-sided opinions.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [“Geha”]) thread “High Schooler: “Which do you think is better, gaming PC or PS5?”“.

  • Giants Could See Mass Exodus of Foreign Players — 5ch: ‘What Was the Point of Whitley?’

    The Yomiuri Giants’ acting manager Hideki Hashigami held a final team meeting after the season ended, effectively closing out the interim leadership that had been in place since former manager Shinnosuke Abe resigned in May. Former Giants stars Yoshinobu Takahashi and Hideki Matsui are being floated as potential successors, while reports say Abe has been asked to return to the front office in a player-personnel role. Hayato Sakamoto and Masahiro Tanaka have both confirmed they’ll keep playing next season — their 21st year as pros — and on the free-agent market, Hiroshima’s Tokoda and former Orix pitcher Espinoza are seen as reinforcement targets. Meanwhile, reports suggest the Giants could see a mass turnover of their foreign players, and the thread lit up with reactions over who might stay and who might go.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 173
    2AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:07
    2026-2027
    Departures
    Released (roster cut): #37 Kori, #38 Okada, #64 Yamada
    Released (free agent): #12 Hagio, #54 Matsuura
    Active player draft:
    Trade:
    Retirement:

    Demoted to developmental:


    Arrivals
    Draft picks (direct designation):
    Active player draft:
    Trade:
    Other:

    Promoted from developmental:

    2026 active roster count: 70
    2027 active roster count: 65

    Open uniform numbers
    7 12 18 37 38 54 55 64 83
    3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    [Giants] Acting Manager Hashigami Holds Post-Game 'Final Meeting': 'I Thanked Everyone' — Turbulent Season Ends for the Coach Turned Acting Manager
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/8ad9b2787bcbdec589ddb4d74c1713bb119f6304

    After the game, acting manager Hashigami held a meeting with the players and revealed, 'The season is now over, for everyone including the players, so I thanked them all.' It capped off a turbulent season that saw him go from coach to acting manager after Manager Abe's resignation in May.
    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:11
    [Giants] Acting Manager Hideki Hashigami Likely to Step Down — Former Players Yoshinobu Takahashi, Hideki Matsui, and Coach Masahiro Kawai Floated as Possible Successors
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/0fe1d0aa5b44addcc0824eee40c6427449d43166
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:18
    [Giants] Former Manager Shinnosuke Abe Asked to Return to the Organization
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:24
    Lord Hashigami did a fine job, but honestly, manage things just a little better and we would've won it all (I'm sure of it)
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:26
    Giants' Hayato Sakamoto and Masahiro Tanaka to Keep Playing Next Season, Their 21st Year as Pros — Teammates Since Elementary School
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/744925fe4aacbf656b7f1dac6038a131a2e887f2
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Giants to Explore Signing Free-Agent-Eligible Tokoda from Hiroshima, Preparing Huge 4-Year, Over-1.6-Billion-Yen Offer — Also Scouting Pacific League Wins Leader Espinoza of Orix
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f821ce4d1bcd62ff51a0193897665105736a56fa
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:37
    Weirdly, I'm starting to root for the Brewers
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:41
    If the Brewers win it all, let's bring bunt-ball to our squad too!
    14AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:43
    [Giants] Mass Exodus of Foreign Players Possible — Whitley, Cabbage, and Others' Futures Unclear, Major Shakeup Looms
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/19b65f51445f41fc70a28745e839a7dc0800ce6d
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:21
    Re: #14
    What was the point of Whitley, anyway?
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:43
    Giants Ask Dalbec and Mata to Stay! Statuses of Whitley, Howard, Baldonado, Luciano, Cabbage, and Tima All Up in the Air
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/99ca73152cc51fa923fe34608f2c30cd317189c9
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:45
    Even Bal-chan's status is still up in the air, huh (affectionate nickname for reliever Baldonado)
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:47
    Tima, the 22-year-old outfielder now in his sixth year in Japan, will also stay on. Left-handed reliever Baldonado and fourth-year reliever Luciano, who came up through the developmental system, are expected to depart. The futures of second-year outfielder Cabbage and of Howard — who flew home on September 23 to focus on treating his lower back — are seen as uncertain.

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/62827cc9786ed47a25991cfd6b9cb41642fe69f7
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:52
    Watching Tima in the farm team's Japan Series, I figured he'd already been told he's cut and was just sulking about it.
    Actually, even if they were planning to keep him, after seeing that performance they should change their minds and cut him.
    A guy who embarrasses himself like that in a game that matters, even for the minors, is never going to make it big.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:56
    [Giants] Former Manager Shinnosuke Abe Asked to Return to the Organization, Front-Office Player-Personnel Role Seen as Leading Candidate — A Fresh Start After His May Resignation
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e3c65a4df0469dabbe38220f75c3eae5d0512887
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:59
    If Tima went back and studied up starting from Little League, maybe he'd turn into a good player
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:04
    'Unagi' should go get some seasoning outside the team for a while (literally 'eel' — likely a player's nickname)
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:08
    Is this front-office assignment because people rate his eye for talent — like how he was high on Rei Takahashi, Kai, and Richard?
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:16
    Feels like someone's gonna get shipped to Hiroshima as compensation in this deal.
    Are we starting a whole Hiroshima collection now — Morishita, Tokoda, Sakakura, and so on?
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:17
    Re: #35
    Add Kozono to the collection too
    94AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:49
    Re: #35
    Nobody's actually coming though lol. Guys with any real track record aren't gonna bother joining our squad — they'd rather go somewhere they can play freely.
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:18
    What we need is a power hitter, not another pitcher
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:30
    Re: #38
    Yeah, you can't win if you don't score runs
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:26
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:32
    Re: #46
    So they laid it out so that tiny 'mo' lands right opposite the fold, huh

    Is this Tokyo Sports or something lol (Tokyo Sports is a tabloid famous for gimmicky, sensational page layouts)
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:28
    Guess they decided he's not cut out to manage, so front office it is
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:33
    Re: #49
    'Front office role' is just the official story — they're probably actually locking him up in some isolation room in Otemachi (Otemachi is where the Yomiuri Shimbun/Giants headquarters sits)
    70AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:39
    Morishita might be a good pitcher, but he won't survive our team's total lack of run support (muengo)
    80AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:42
    Re: #70
    Exactly that. They need to reinforce the lineup in parallel too
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    Sorry to that couple sitting behind home plate — this one's on me
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2109206051459604480/vid/avc1/1280×720/lGffl8iF_zcLN8Yb.mp4
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:50
    Okay everyone, line up nice and neat, match up with the person next to you~
    No talking now, this isn't the time to laugh~
    On the count of three, say 'bow!' and lower your heads~
    Take your caps off~
    Here we go~
    Ready, bow!

    Do they really have to go this far?
    Are the players on our team kindergartners or something
    99AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:52
    Re: #96
    There's no 'and no chewing gum!' though

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Shinnosuke Abe stepped down as manager in May 2026, and coach Hideki Hashigami took over as acting manager for the rest of the season. It’s worth noting that the reported scouting of Tokoda and Espinoza, as well as the foreign players’ futures, are all still at the “exploring” or “undecided” stage — no contracts have actually been signed or terminated. Where the thread split was over how to rate the foreign players’ abilities and the front office’s roster strategy, with mixed opinions on players like Whitley and Cabbage individually, while the news that Sakamoto and Tanaka will keep playing was largely welcomed. Note that this thread is a regular season-ending roster-management thread, and also covers practical matters like tracking open uniform numbers and active-roster registration counts.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager Thread 174.”

  • “The Web Is Dying Under a Flood of Garbage Ads” Sparks 5ch Reaction — 5ch: “Except Users Just Use Ad Blockers”

    GO Hatori, editor-in-chief of the web media outlet “Rocket News 24,” wrote a column criticizing the overwhelming amount of pop-ups you can’t figure out how to close, ads that make you wait around for nothing, and ads for sketchy products or scam-like services, arguing that “if sites keep running ads like this, people are going to vanish from the Web” — and it became a hot topic on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. In the thread, opinions ranged from “that’s a platform problem, not the advertisers’” to complaints that while PCs can cope with ad blockers, smartphones lack adequate countermeasures, frustration over how aggressively X (formerly Twitter) and YouTube shove ads at users, and even remarks about the quality of the ads shown on 5ch itself — with posters drawing a clear line between the “quantity” and “quality” of ads.

    If sites keep running garbage ads like this, of course people are going to vanish from the Web. — Thoughts from a web media editor-in-chief | Rocket News 24

    GO Hatori, 18 hours ago

    I am the editor-in-chief of a web media outlet called “Rocket News 24.”

    Source: rocketnews24.com / Original article here

    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:17
    If a company's pop-ups show up four or five times after you've visited their site just once, there's no way in hell you're buying anything from them. Are they stupid?
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:22
    Re: #11
    That's on the ad platform (SSP/ad network), not the intent of the company whose ad happens to be shown.
    Some people get randomly pissed at the company shown in the ad, but that's misdirected.
    58AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:26
    Re: #1
    Well, the only ones who'll actually disappear from the Web are the advertisers — users will just use ad blockers.
    64AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:27
    Re: #58
    And then only the shady operators are left standing, so ad quality just keeps getting worse.
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:28
    Re: #58
    That said, things might head the way YouTube's been going — "use our paid service if you want ads blocked." No telling how much longer free ad-blocking software will even keep working.
    79AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:29
    The article seems to be talking about ad *quality*, but most people in this thread are commenting on how ads are delivered and how many of them there are.
    87AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:31
    Re: #79
    Realistically, how an ad is presented is part of its quality too… if the delivery method or volume is off, the ad's quality as an ad is bad (it won't actually reach the customers it's trying to reach).
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:32
    Re: #79
    What the article actually brings up is:
    "ads you can't figure out how to close"
    "ads that make you wait around for nothing"
    and
    "ads for sketchy products or scam-like services"

    Everyone's basically saying the same thing lol
    102AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:33
    Those creepy ads are fine even if most people find them gross — if even 1 out of 1,000 falls for it, that's plenty profitable. Online ads must just be that cheap per targeted person, I guess. Don't really know though.
    111AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Re: #102
    Same as "it's-me" phone scams or phishing emails — the basic principle is "even a bad marksman hits something if he fires enough shots."
    333AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:06
    Re: #102
    Yeah, that's literally the exact same model as wire fraud or phishing scams.
    113AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    X has been shoving MLB game updates at me lately. Talk about forcing it down people's throats.
    194AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:46
    Re: #113
    That's seriously annoying.
    148AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:40
    Is the Web actually losing people in the first place? "No TV, no newspapers, no Web either" — there's no way that's really happening.
    159AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    Re: #148
    Might go back to basics and return to paper. It's that bad. Well, can't really complain since it's free…
    181AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:44
    Re: #148
    I've basically stopped watching broadcast TV entirely. YouTube gets around ad blockers and slaps like two ads right up front, plus it's full of fake outrage-bait shorts and AI-generated junk now, so I've pretty much quit that too. Instagram's full of AI-generated stuff too, so now I only open it to check acquaintances' stories.

    So what am I actually watching? I've circled back to watching broadcast dramas… on Netflix.
    239AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:53
    Re: #148
    There are still plenty of people on the Web as infrastructure — as the "pipe" itself — but they've holed up inside specific social media apps and basically stopped visiting old-school "homepages" like they used to.
    160AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:41
    It's probably the ad agencies that suck, but do the advertisers seriously not care that they're paying good money just to have their ads shown in such a crappy way?
    167AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:42
    Re: #160
    Nobody checks the actual placements one by one — they just look at the nicely dressed-up performance reports the agency hands over and act like they understand.
    169AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:43
    Not that this is any kind of reference, but
    211AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:49
    This is what this very thread looks like in a browser with nothing blocked lol
    217AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:50
    Re: #211 And then that image ends up buried under ads too.
    225AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:51
    Re: #211
    Exactly. Whenever I browse the Web on someone else's setup, I'm shocked like, "wait, this is the default now?!"
    229AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:51
    Re: #211
    Would this place (5ch) look that insane too if the ads here were turned on?
    284AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:01
    PC's still fine since there's ad-removal software for it, but mobile's coverage is incomplete.
    295AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:02
    Re: #284
    On mobile it just gets in the way of browsing — completely backwards.
    309AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:04
    Re: #284
    You can block it on PC. So it should be possible on smartphones too. They're probably just leaving it broken on purpose, for profit.
    316AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:04
    Re: #284
    Wait, you don't even have an ad blocker installed? lol
    314AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:04
    Try viewing 5ch on your phone without a dedicated app/tool and it's wall-to-wall porn ads so bad even guys look away — if a first-time female visitor or a kid saw it, they'd be scarred for life.
    323AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:05
    Re: #314
    5ch has always been that kind of place though.
    350AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:08
    Re: #314
    Anime-style or game-style raunchy stuff is one thing, but the ads here lately are way too graphic — it's genuinely stressful.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Most online ads aren’t chosen by advertisers one by one — they’re auto-bid and auto-delivered through ad-trading systems called DSPs and SSPs. Because of this, the root of the problem is often not “the intent of the company running a sketchy ad” but rather the platform’s delivery logic and lax screening standards. Posters in the thread also pointed out this structural distinction, noting that criticism of individual advertisers needs to be kept separate from criticism of the system itself. Meanwhile, ad-blocking browser extensions are widespread on PC, but the same kind of tooling is harder to use on smartphone browsers and apps, and more platforms — YouTube among them — are ramping up anti-ad-blocker measures. This asymmetry feeds the sense that “the ad experience is worse on smartphones.”

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “If sites keep running garbage ads like this, of course people are going to vanish from the Web. Thoughts from a web media editor-in-chief — Rocket News 24.”

  • US Alarmed by Surging Long-Term Rates, Wary of Japan-Triggered Market Turmoil — G20 Finance Ministers Meet on the 15th

    The Trump administration is growing increasingly alarmed by the rapid rise in long-term U.S. interest rates. The worry is that heavier mortgage burdens could hurt Republicans in November’s midterm elections. Treasury Secretary Bessent has said “I can’t control the bond market,” even as he works to calm it. The 10-year Treasury yield briefly hit 5.34% on October 1, its highest level in 24 years. While the surge is attributed to oil prices rising amid worsening conditions in the Middle East and a wave of bond issuance by AI-related companies, there is also strong concern that Japan’s historically high interest rates could spill over into U.S. markets. Ahead of the G20 finance ministers’ and central bank governors’ meeting on the 15th, discussions on 5ch centered on Japan’s fiscal management, ways to tap elderly citizens’ savings, and speculation surrounding government bonds.

    [Bangkok, Jiji Press] The Trump administration in the United States is growing increasingly alarmed by the sharp rise in long-term interest rates. The worry is that it will push up mortgage rates, weighing on households and potentially becoming a headwind in November’s midterm elections. Treasury Secretary Bessent has been working to ease anxiety over the relentless rate increases, while also voicing concern that Japan’s historically high interest rates could spill over into U.S. markets.

    “I can’t control the bond market. What I can do is get people to stop and think for a moment.” Bessent said this in an interview with U.S. media this month.

    Persistent inflation concerns tied to elevated oil prices amid worsening conditions in the Middle East pushed the 10-year Treasury yield to a 24-year high of 5.34% on the 1st. Heavy bond issuance by AI-related companies, fueled by the artificial intelligence investment boom, has also encouraged selling of Treasuries, adding to the upward pressure on rates.

    Source: jiji.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    Serves you right, condo buyers! (lol)
    They should raise rates even more — it'd help close the wealth gap.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:16
    Re: #5
    Japan's still cheap. It's America that's the outlier.
    In Japan, inflation and the weak yen are outrunning interest rates, so whoever locked in a mortgage early and bought a condo got incredibly lucky.
    It's people with no assets who are in real trouble.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:19
    Re: #5
    Oh look, Mr. Close-the-Wealth-Gap… there you are again.
    166AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:35
    Re: #5
    Thing is, when rates rise, rent goes up too — landlords took out loans to build those apartment buildings.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    Re: #1
    Just sell off all the U.S. Treasuries that are causing the weak yen and rising prices — problem solved.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:10
    Re: #6
    And how exactly are you going to get the dollars to buy oil then?
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:14
    The next global depression is probably going to start in Japan, not America.
    92AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:58
    Re: #11
    Not sure why, though. Aren't France and America in way worse shape?
    127AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:13
    Re: #11
    Makes you wonder what they'd say about something like French government bonds.
    17AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:17
    It's the cost of financing the Iran war that's behind this, isn't it?
    Don't go pinning the blame on Japan for that.

    Still, a war with no end in sight is scary.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:19
    Re: #17
    It's going to drag on at least until 2030.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:20
    A country pushing aggressive fiscal spending despite a weak yen and inflation — no wonder the markets are laughing at it.
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:25
    Re: #22
    People are just too used to zero rates — current inflation is well within the normal range.
    And since rates are low relative to inflation, if you borrow and invest in growth sectors now, the falling value of money down the road makes paying back the debt easier.
    So aggressive fiscal spending isn't wrong.
    65AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:47
    Re: #33
    Whether it's wrong or not isn't for you to decide — it's global market participants who set long-term rates and exchange rates.
    90AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:57
    Re: #33
    Increase bond issuance now and who's even going to buy it, in a bond market this trashed? Rates are going to go insane.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:21
    I turned it into a manga.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Re: #25
    Somehow it's not any easier to follow.
    118AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:09
    Re: #25
    Too much text, I don't even feel like reading it.
    223AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:58
    Re: #25
    Also, give the characters more exaggerated expressions — the whole point of manga is going over the top with the art (deforume-style exaggeration).
    138AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:18
    Re: #133
    Exactly what it sounds like — Japanese investors just need to exploit Japan's low rates to buy up U.S. Treasuries on the cheap, and America gets steamrolled with no way to fight back. The U.S. has no way to lower its own rates to stop it.
    141AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:20
    Re: #138
    Even trading in yen, exchange-rate swings eat up the gains — you won't profit in the short term.
    145AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:21
    Re: #138
    Who's dumb enough to buy bonds from a country headed for default?
    147AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:22
    It's actually Japan that has no way to lower its rates.
    164AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:34
    Re: #147
    If they put government bonds into NISA (Japan's tax-free investment program) allowances, rates would probably come down. Japan's elderly are sitting on an insane pile of financial assets, after all.

    Money held by people age 70 and up has reached 648 trillion yen.
    https://www.dlri.co.jp/report/macro/495378.html

    Though it's also true that a country where the elderly hoard this much wealth doesn't really have much of a future.
    170AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Re: #164
    If they fold government bonds into NISA, wouldn't banks go under? There'd be no point keeping money in deposits anymore.
    189AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:42
    Re: #170
    Not all of it goes in, and buying bonds doesn't make the money vanish, you know?
    Deposit → bond → reinvestment → bank → loop.

    Deposits dip in the short term, but over a longer stretch they actually grow.
    210AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:53
    Re: #170
    Credit unions, co-ops, and agricultural banks might be done for either way — they can't pull in deposits, and they can't lend profitably at these ultra-low rates. As banks, they're cornered no matter what.

    Their parent bodies, Shinkin Central Bank and Norinchukin Bank, will probably prop them up, but without real reform now, they'll all go down together.
    159AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:31
    Japan is a country in decline — raising rates or intervening isn't going to stop the yen's slide at this point. The falling birthrate and aging population mean a labor shortage with no prospect of improving. On top of that, the national budget is buried in debt and can barely move. And with an idiot PM steering the ship, it's basically over.
    168AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:36
    Re: #159
    Decline is what's causing the weak currency, yet they keep jacking up rates and making life even harder for ordinary people.
    169AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:37
    Could this be used as leverage against the U.S.?
    178AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:38
    Re: #169
    Nope, can't be used. There was once a PM who jokingly said he'd "dreamed of selling U.S. Treasuries" and ended up forced out in a scandal, lol.
    181AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:39
    Re: #169
    To be precise, an outright threat would cause problems, so if Japan just plays dumb — "We're a nation of law, the government can't interfere with the central bank," "Private citizens are free to buy U.S. Treasuries, we can't ban that" — Japan could rake in profits with no pushback. America has no way to stop it, since it has no room left to cut rates.
    227AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:59
    Japan's rates are highly likely to keep climbing from here.

    And there's some idiot here saying "just put government bonds into NISA" —

    but deposits are what fund those bond holdings, so if deposits get pulled out, that's a huge problem.
    Banks run deposits into bonds and stocks, so if everyone pulls their money out, bond yields spike and stocks crash.

    The whole "from savings to investment" push has already failed badly at this stage.

    Everybody needs to keep putting money into their deposit accounts, or this gets ugly.
    233AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:02
    Re: #227
    Haven't you seen the JGB (Japanese government bond) market, lol
    Market rates have doubled year-over-year, lol
    The BOJ has already lost its grip on governance.

    Everyone's screaming for reckless fiscal expansion, so market rates are just going to keep exploding higher, lol
    Wouldn't be surprising to see 4% by year-end.

    By around this time next year, it might be creeping toward 10%, lol
    234AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:02
    Re: #233
    Oh, that's the Japanese market? I thought you meant America.

    Talk about the U.S. market instead.
    236AnonymousOct 12, 2026 10:03
    Re: #233
    Foreigners hold a huge share of Japan's T-bills, so I'm saying fiscal collapse could happen this year or next.

    I mean, foreigners hold 60% of them.

    If they don't roll those over, Japan is finished.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The direct trigger behind the surge in long-term U.S. interest rates is that oil prices remain elevated amid worsening conditions in the Middle East, stoking inflation fears, while a boom in bond issuance by AI-related companies is also putting pressure on the Treasury market. Treasury Secretary Bessent’s remark that “I can’t control the bond market” reflects his frustration that rising rates, by pushing up mortgage costs, could hurt Republicans in November’s midterm elections. Within the thread, opinions diverged over how to read the headline phrase “market turmoil triggered by Japan.” This doesn’t mean Japan is causing U.S. rates to rise; rather, it points to the spillover risk that if Japan’s already historically high rates climb further, they could ripple through interest rates worldwide, including U.S. Treasuries. Mixing up this distinction easily leads to the misreading that “Japan is causing trouble for the U.S.” The thread also touched on proposals to put elderly households’ 648-trillion-yen pool of assets to use via government bonds, and on folding government bonds into NISA accounts — but it’s worth noting both ideas remain speculative, with their feasibility and impact on bank operations still unclear.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “US Alarmed by Surging Rates, Wary of Japan-Triggered Market Turmoil — G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors Meeting on the 15th.”

  • New Grad Hiring: 20% of Major Japanese Firms Plan AI-Driven Cuts — 5ch Erupts: “They Want to Crush Our Future”

    A thread on 5ch’s Newsokuvip board blew up over reports that AI is driving down new graduate hiring. The original poster claimed that roughly 20% of major companies plan to cut new grad hiring, arguing that young people are once again getting the short end of the stick, just as they did during the pandemic. In response, some pointed to Toshiba’s past hiring plan (which paired an increase in new graduate hires with layoffs) as a counterexample, while others noted that the hiring cuts are concentrated in liberal-arts office jobs, with STEM and IT fields still facing labor shortages. The thread became a tug-of-war between “our generation is being treated unfairly” and “you should get some real work experience before complaining,” exposing a clear generational divide.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:33
    Apparently about 20% of big companies are cutting back.
    First COVID, now this — how badly do they want to crush us young people's future?
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:38
    Even with a 20% cut in new grad hiring, I'd say there's still a shortage of young workers.
    12AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:38
    Re: #10
    There's a shortage of young workers, sure, but the only seats open are blue-collar jobs or small/mid-size companies.
    No guaranteed future there.
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:40
    Re: #12
    Secure in this day and age?

    Toshiba to lay off 1,400 employees aged 40+, while hiring 1,170 new grads it'll lay off 20 years from now

    Toshiba announced its FY2020 hiring plan on the 12th. It plans to hire 1,170 new graduates for April 2021 entry, a 12% increase from the projected 1,040 hires in April 2020.
    Under its mid-term management plan, the company is pursuing workforce reduction primarily through natural attrition; the new figure is 17% lower than the actual number hired in 2019. It's balancing staff reallocation toward growth areas like digital with ongoing restructuring.
    15AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:40
    Re: #13
    So effectively a cut of 300 people.
    16AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:41
    Re: #13
    Honestly, who cares about the middle-aged folks anyway.
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:42
    Maybe bounce your ideas off an AI first and organize your thoughts before starting a thread.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:42
    Re: #19
    I don't get what you mean.
    Oh wait, I see — it's inconvenient for the middle-aged crowd, isn't it.
    21AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:44
    This is exactly why young people like you don't get taught anything at work 😠
    27AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:46
    Re: #21
    And there's the usual guy.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:44
    Isn't the hiring cut limited to liberal-arts office jobs?
    As long as you're not aiming too high, like an office job at some mega-corporation, you should be fine.
    STEM positions are actually increasing.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:45
    Re: #22
    That goes for frontline/manual jobs and IT too.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:46
    Re: #22
    Anyway, it's just not right that our generation keeps getting treated unfairly.
    We went through COVID too — if anything we should be getting preferential treatment.
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:44
    Step one, be born in a big city.
    Get good grades in junior high and get into a high school with a hensachi (standardized test score) of 60 or above.
    In high school, cram at prep school nonstop and just barely squeak into a former Imperial University, a medical school, or a top private STEM program.
    Study hard in college, finish grad school, and only then do you actually get to start.

    The bar is way too high.
    29AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:48
    Re: #23
    Can't speak for liberal arts majors, but in STEM even a grad degree from a regional public university can get you into a major manufacturer.
    Even for liberal arts, if you prep properly for interviews, study hard, and build up your "gakuchika" (talking points about what you devoted yourself to as a student), you've got a shot even without a prestigious degree.
    Grad school isn't even necessary.
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:00
    Re: #23
    Everything except the very first step can be managed with enough effort.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:45
    Did nobody learn anything from the Lost Generation (Japan's 1990s–2000s hiring ice age)?
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:47
    Re: #25
    Companies only look at numbers and risk.
    And the middle-aged crowd is desperately clinging to their seats.
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:49
    If you're truly chasing performance, you don't really need the middle-aged employees, do you.
    Better to keep cycling the workforce.
    So then what happens to the middle-aged folks?
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:50
    Re: #31
    By that logic you wouldn't need new grads either.
    New grads take about three years of training before they're useful.
    Only people in their 30s would survive.
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:49
    The labor shortage is way bigger than 20% to begin with — if you're not picky, you can get hired pretty much anywhere.
    Some small/mid-size companies that bet everything on AI cutting headcount will probably end up unable to actually run their operations and go under, but honestly, thinning the herd might be good for society overall.
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:50
    Re: #33
    I want to work at a big company though.
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:53
    Re: #33
    My image of small/mid-size companies is that they're full of middle-aged people who can't even use AI in the first place.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:05
    Did you take some cringey class or watch some YouTube video and get influenced by it?
    Just start with a part-time job first and see reality for yourself.
    77AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    Re: #74
    I do have a part-time job, but I don't want food service.
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:19
    Mock me all you want if that's all you're after, but the fact remains — our generation is getting an unfair, unreasonable deal. That's all there is to it.
    99AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:21
    Re: #96
    That's right.
    Everyone's fed up with Gen Z right now —
    people like you who only demand your rights while leaking your own personal info all over social media.
    104AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:24
    Re: #96
    That's on the people your own age around you.
    A soft generation that cries "abuse" or "harassment" at the drop of a hat, which just ends up highlighting their own declining skills and patience and makes everyone see you as a generation that's hard to deal with — that's the real problem.
    109AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:26
    Re: #107
    They just want to lean back and bark orders.
    They want an easy job.
    114AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:27
    I'm the one leaning back telling OP to do this, do that —
    you think subordinates would actually follow a boss like that? Huh, OP? Re: #109
    116AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Re: #109
    I'm telling you this for your own good — go try a part-time job.
    126AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:35
    Guys like Mizoguchi on Reiwa no Tora (a Shark Tank-style investor show) — people end up thinking that kind of work looks cool.
    But I still think the real safe bet for the future is a management position at a big company.
    127AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:36
    Re: #74
    Re: #126
    Yeah, you're definitely getting influenced by something weird.
    128AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:37
    Re: #126
    Social media and YouTube are full of flashy, glamorous stuff,
    but that's less than 1% of how the real world actually works.
    131AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:40
    Re: #126
    I get it now —
    you've spent your whole life getting scolded, so you've grown to love having power.
    151AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:15
    Call center employment numbers
    153AnonymousOct 12, 2026 09:20
    Re: #151
    That kind of job seems like an easy target for AI replacement, after all.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The Toshiba hiring plan cited in the thread actually comes from a 2019 article reporting that the company would hire 1,170 new graduates for April 2021 entry while laying off roughly 1,400 employees aged 40 and over — a years-old case with no direct connection to AI-driven cuts to new grad hiring. Readers should note that applying it directly to the current AI-related debate is a bit of a mismatch. The thread also raised the point that the hiring cuts said to be occurring are concentrated in liberal-arts office and administrative roles, while STEM and IT fields continue to face labor shortages — meaning the headline “new grad hiring is declining” only captures part of the picture. A number of posts seemed designed to stoke generational conflict, but few were backed by concrete data, so this should be read with the understanding that the exchange was driven mainly by emotion rather than evidence.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Newsokuvip) thread “Apparently AI is cutting new grad hiring”.

  • Ocarina of Time Remake Shatters US Amazon Pre-order Records — GTA6 Comparisons Go Viral

    Pre-orders for Nintendo’s upcoming Switch 2 remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time have hit the display cap on US Amazon — “100,000+ bought in the past month” — and notebookcheck.net reported it as a record-setting pace that outpaces GTA6. The catch: Zelda’s pre-orders opened on September 8, while GTA6’s began in late June, giving GTA6 a head start, and Rockstar’s title has reportedly already sold 5.75 million units according to Sensor Tower estimates. On 5ch’s hardware/industry board, opinion split between those questioning whether this is really an apples-to-apples comparison and those who think the lack of competing releases simply funneled buyers toward Zelda.

    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remake for Nintendo Switch 2 sets an Amazon pre-order record, dwarfing GTA 6

    Source: notebookcheck.net / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:52
    Zelda's popularity is almost suspiciously huge, right?
    If it were a new game, sure, but this is a remake pulling numbers like this.
    7AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:53
    Re: #5
    Well, Ocarina of Time is legendary enough that the high regard makes sense.
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:54
    Lol, that's wild.
    Still, no way GTA loses on total units in the end.
    But isn't its initial launch oddly sluggish?
    Not that I care about the story, but is it stuffed with political-correctness pandering (ポリコレ, a common jab at "woke" content) or something?
    13AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:56
    Re: #9
    Honestly, aren't most people just waiting for the PC version?
    Or more precisely, waiting for the PC version to go on sale.
    I mean, what percentage of people actually bought GTA5 at full price anyway?
    19AnonymousOct 12, 2026 07:59
    I'm worried people are going to start blaming the PS5 for GTA6 not selling well.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:00
    Re: #19
    But realistically, that disc controversy does seem likely to drag sales down.
    34AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    Re: #19
    That excuse might have flown… if someone hadn't already been bragging about console players being there in force with record-breaking pre-order numbers.
    28AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:03
    Since the GTA disc version plays identically to the digital one, unless you want to play right at midnight, buying the physical copy should actually be cheaper thanks to store discounts — so you'd think it'd sell well.
    40AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    Re: #28
    Turns out the physical copy also arrives early now — it's just a cardboard box with a download code inside.
    46AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:11
    Re: #28
    Overseas, pre-order discounts on physical copies aren't really a big thing.
    In that sense, download codes might actually be more popular in Japan.
    33AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    Re: #1
    >Zelda's pre-orders opened on September 8, while Rockstar Games' pre-orders began in late June. This Leonida-set title has been on sale for a much longer stretch. According to Sensor Tower estimates, 5.75 million units have already sold, so this game could still come out on top in the end.

    And… thread's done here.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:24
    Re: #66
    Re: #33 already spelled it out — comparing two things with totally different pre-order windows is meaningless.
    35AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:07
    Zelda is crushing it across Japan, the US, and Europe — is GTA6 gonna be okay?
    There are apparently a lot of 'rest of the world' regions where people can't even make a PSN account, so they can't play the digital-code version of GTA6 🙂
    39AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:08
    Re: #35
    Oh right, this is the same issue that blew up when Steam made PSN linking mandatory and people couldn't play.
    43AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:10
    Re: #35
    Wait, seriously…
    So people in 'rest of the world' regions just can't play it at all…
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    I do think GTA will eventually sell over 100 million copies, but who knows how far it'll get without online and without a PC version.
    And now that DLSS5 is out, even its graphics edge doesn't count for much anymore.
    Either way, it won't really start selling for real until the PC version plus online mode drop and it becomes a regular on sale.
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:11
    Re: #41
    If it stays console-exclusive, it's bound to fall short of the previous game — guess it's a PC-version waiting game.
    47AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:11
    Re: #41
    Actually, word is the development budget is so huge that even 100 million units sold wouldn't recoup it — which is probably why those wild '50 million on day one' numbers got floated around.
    55AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:15
    The fact that everyone's steering clear of GTA and there's nothing decent else around this release window is a big factor too — that demand is probably spilling over into Zelda.
    57AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:16
    Re: #55
    Yeah, a 30fps version just isn't that appealing anyway.
    63AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:20
    Nice try, hater.
    GTA6 has pre-orders on track for 50 million units on day one, you know?


    Latest series entry 'Grand Theft Auto VI' projected to hit 50 million units in its first week — market research firm releases sales forecast based on pre-order data
    https://doope.jp/2026/07168184.html
    66AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:21
    Re: #63
    That's the same pre-order tally that's losing to Zelda, though — you sure about that?
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:21
    Re: #63
    I came here just to see this comment.
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:23
    Including digital sales, GTA would win in a landslide — quit the trash talk that's just gonna boomerang back on you later.
    76AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:24
    Re: #71
    You really think it'll sell 50 million copies?
    81AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Re: #71
    Normally I'd agree, but we're living in an age where the unexpected keeps happening, so I can't help sensing some turbulence ahead.
    84AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:29
    GTA6's launch conditions are genuinely rough, honestly.
    88AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:33
    Re: #84
    – Launching on a console with record-breaking weak sales
    – 30fps
    – No PC version
    – No online
    – No mods
    – No disc
    – A pirate storefront just popped up on PS5

    Like… what are they even doing here?
    96AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:36
    Re: #88
    All the other stuff might be workable, but no online mode is a really tough blow.
    91AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:35
    Doesn't look like it'll sell much in Japan, but overseas it might actually beat the 3DS version.
    98AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:37
    Re: #91
    Ah right, in America handheld-game sales tend to get treated like they never happened, so this basically feels like the first remake since the N64 original.
    107AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:41
    Re: #91
    It'll probably beat the 3DS version both at home and abroad. The 3DS version reportedly opened with 270,000 in Japan and 810,000 overseas. That said, this is about 4 months after the 3DS release, so the 3DS numbers were pretty impressive too.
    119AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:48
    By the way, that number is a hard cap, so there's no telling how much it's actually sold.

    On US Amazon's "bought in past month" label, there's nothing above 100,000 units — 100K+ is currently the maximum display value.
    No matter how explosively a product or pre-order is selling, the label tops out and caps at "100K+ (100,000 or more) bought."
    124AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:50
    Re: #119
    Haha, so it's capped out, huh.
    132AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:53
    Re: #119
    【US Amazon】Ocarina of Time hits 100K in the past week
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1789315450/

    Ocarina of Time on US Amazon sells 100K within one month of pre-orders opening
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1791553059/

    So that's why it was already at 100K after 5 days, and still showing 100K a month later for the monthly total.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    The claim that Zelda is “dominating GTA6” rests on the fact that Amazon’s purchase-count display caps out at “100,000+ (100K+)” — meaning there’s no way to tell from outside whether actual sales are hovering around 100,000 or have shot far past it. It’s also worth noting that pre-orders opened on different dates: September 8 for Zelda versus late June for GTA6, a gap of more than two months, which makes a straight comparison of pre-order counts an apples-to-oranges exercise. GTA6 is already estimated by Sensor Tower to have sold 5.75 million units, and some argue it could still pull ahead over the long run in cumulative sales. In the thread, some pointed to the lack of a PS5 online mode and PC version for GTA6, as well as the scarcity of major competing titles around Zelda’s launch window, as factors that likely concentrated pre-order demand on Zelda.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Great News] Zelda Remake Sets New US Pre-order Record, Dominating GTA6 😆“.

  • Is Juice=Juice’s Boom Hello! Project’s Win? Fans Can’t Agree

    In a thread posted on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, one self-described “Ebata fan” (a devoted fan, or “wota”) pushed back against the growing narrative that Juice=Juice’s surging popularity is somehow “Hello! Project’s win as a whole,” arguing that “it’s Juice that got discovered — Hello! Project itself isn’t the one blowing up.” Replies brought out a string of perspectives only hardcore Hello! Project fans would have: some pointed out that Juice=Juice’s breakthrough traces back to their appearance on the variety show “Moreemi,” others noted how rare it is for a single group to break out on its own, and still others vented about how the fan club system is structured. At the same time, plenty of posts took potshots at fans of other groups by name, keeping the thread’s mood combative throughout.

    1AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:02
    @
    I absolutely can't stand people who twist Juice=Juice's success into "credit for all of Hello! Project"
    It's Juice that got discovered, Hello! Project is
    4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:06
    The second you know what "Rito-Kame" is — some insider-only thing from deep in "the village" (H!P fan slang for the whole roster) — you're no newcomer.
    6AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:09
    Re: #4
    If anything, they say they've been watching since that audition, so that makes them a fairly seasoned old-timer.
    8AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:12
    The ones who got a little bit of discovery were the Amore girls,
    not Juice=Juice
    9AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:12
    Re: #1
    Feel free to leave, honestly.
    They only got attention for a vulgar leg-raise move, and you've got the nerve to say that?
    10AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:13
    I get what you're saying.
    The ones calling it Hello!'s credit are exactly the ones who were trashing the Moreemi boom in the first place.
    11AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:13
    Same wording as the person who kept spamming anti-Kudo/Irie threads.
    18AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:16
    Juice=Juice can do no wrong, apparently.
    20AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:17
    I'm just an old guy who only knows Morning Musume, but yeah, I think that too.
    22AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:17
    Angerme-ota spinning "Angerme is washed up" into "Hello! Project is washed up" lol
    68AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:47
    Re: #22
    Don't dodge with "well Hello! Project is…" every time, Angerme-ota lol
    23AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:18
    The moment you start trashing Risachi you lose all credibility.
    Juice won't keep rising as long as people like this guy don't disappear.
    24AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:20
    Yeah, trying to sell the whole "village" at once just doesn't work.
    It took 20 years just to get one group after another to hit — Morning Musume, then Juice=Juice.
    37AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:25
    Re: #24
    It's not impossible — Morning Musume at their peak and AKB both managed to sell as a whole "village."
    But even with producers like Kawara-Lab or Sashihara running things, some groups still struggle, so in this day and age it seems better for just one group to break out on its own.
    25AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:20
    Juice only got discovered thanks to Moreemi, that's all.
    Other Hello! Project groups have the same chance to get discovered, so treating Juice like they're somehow special is wrong.
    26AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:20
    More than what OP's saying, it's disappointing that Moeba-ota are openly trashing Risachi.
    30AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:23
    Re: #26
    They're getting called out for using an Eba (Ebata) icon while trashing Risachi.
    31AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:24
    You've got 9 followers on some nobody account, don't act so high and mighty.
    48AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:30
    Re: #31
    And that's exactly why "Oyaki" starting this thread is already a loss.
    36AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:25
    Why are Moreemi newcomers always like this?
    38AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:26
    Re: #36
    They're not a Moreemi newcomer though.
    41AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:27
    Re: #36
    There's no way a newcomer would know what "Rito-Kame" is.
    44AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Re: #36
    What made you think they're new?
    They're a textbook old-school "Juice-scum" fan (derisive slang for Juice=Juice fans) who's been around forever.
    42AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:28
    Moreemi newcomers are like this too —
    always making these needlessly aggressive "feelings" posts.
    52AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:34
    Re: #42
    They say they've had doubts since Irie joined, so they're not a Moreemi newcomer.
    49AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:32
    Re: #48
    An "Oyaki" fan would write "Juice=Juice" in full.
    Anyone writing "Juice," "Juusu," "JJ," or "J=J" isn't an Oyaki fan.
    And an Oyaki fan definitely wouldn't start a smear thread about Juice=Juice.
    56AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:38
    Re: #49
    Trying so hard lol, and an Oyaki fan at that lol
    50AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:33
    Ebata fans are all like this.
    53AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:35
    Re: #50
    Well, she's a popular member, so.
    59AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:41
    Juice sings in a totally classic Hello! Project style, you know.
    60AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:43
    Wasn't this the person who went after a fan from another fandom who'd complained about Juice fans at G Fes?
    62AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:44
    Re: #60
    Stuff like that is exactly what piles up and tanks Juice's image.
    67AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:47
    Forget the "credit" debate, I just want the fan club memberships split by group.
    Or at least let the group you register as your favorite actually count for something, even a little.
    71AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:51
    Re: #67
    If you split it up, both sides go down together.
    69AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:49
    Why do people who want the fan club split want it so badly?
    Isn't it better bundled together? That way you can check out any group whenever you get curious.
    74AnonymousOct 12, 2026 08:55
    Re: #69
    I can't accept that my money is going to a group I don't even like.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Hello! Project has traditionally marketed itself as a whole “village” rather than pushing individual groups, and the thread noted that it took 20 years just to grow one group after another — from Morning Musume to Juice=Juice — underscoring the shared assumption that a single group breaking out on its own is rare to begin with. The variety show “Moreemi,” cited as the direct trigger for Juice=Juice’s rising profile, appears to have also given fans of other groups a chance to notice them. The thread split over a single question: should this attention be seen as the result of the group’s own individual effort, or as a boost from the “Hello! Project” brand as a whole? Both positions found some support. There was also repeated griping about the fan club system, which isn’t split by group, meaning membership fees flow even to groups a fan doesn’t like. Note: the thread also contained unverified claims flatly identifying certain posters as “sock puppets” posting under different IDs, but this article does not adopt those claims.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “An “Ebata fan”: “I can’t stand people twisting Juice’s success into credit for Hello! Project. It’s Juice that got discovered — Hello! Project itself isn’t blowing up”.”