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The story
Angerme’s concert at Pia Arena MM, where the group plans to announce a new member, became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Despite the venue offering only general and family seating, reports surfaced that tickets still hadn’t sold out long after the announcement. In the thread, multiple theories circulated about the sluggish sales — from doubts about whether a new member will actually be revealed, to the group’s declining overall drawing power. Some pointed to a structure where the numbers are propped up by trainee-program fans buying tickets, and the discussion skewed toward harsh assessments of the group’s current state, well beyond just ticket sales.
What people said
Fair point
Too scared to buy a ticket
Now that Kamiko's gone too, isn't this about right?
An Angerme fan said Juice=Juice's 'Clear Juice' thing bumped attendance by 3,000 for exactly that reason
Trainee-program otaku (fans who follow the Hello! Project trainees)
No idea how many of them there are
even as the junior ranks keep piling up
Still nowhere near enough to sell out, though
Thinking about it, leaning on trainee-otaku for attendance is basically the same playbook as Rosy
The textbook case is Morning Musume。
They clawed back from last year's disastrous tour
The 'wolves' (die-hard Morning Musume fans) trashed everyone but Suzuki as unattractive, but it had zero effect on the current tour
No matter how much you bash the trainees now, it stops mattering the moment they actually join
Honestly, any other outcome and I don't think I could celebrate it wholeheartedly lol
There's no star trainee right now (age being one factor) who could leapfrog the seniors in one go, so just promoting whoever's on top of the ranking is the safest call
If she's coming from the trainees, they should say 'it'll be one of these three!'
and release videos of all three performing and being interviewed
Exactly this
Announcing it ahead of time at least guarantees that girl's own fans show up
Why turn it into a pointless surprise?
If she'd joined Angerme she'd have been crushed
but somehow she just turned into a totally ordinary member
Because it came out that her TikTok numbers don't even beat Nishimura's, let alone Hayashi's
Angerme really does seem to go out of its way to make itself unlikeable
Hashisako has her own circumstances too, lol
can't just force her timeline up by six months
I wonder if that's also why they're annoyed Juice=Juice is pulling in huge numbers without doing any member reshuffling at all
The ones left over that Angerme might want are still in elementary school
Obviously this is just a losing hand no matter how you slice it
First line, that's not true
Source: the face of the 18th generation
Background and Key Points of the Debate
Angerme is a group under Hello! Project, and pairing a new-member announcement with a concert at a major venue is a tactic the group has used before. This time, even though the venue offered a simple seating layout of just general and family seats, tickets still weren’t selling out, and the thread tangled together two main theories: uncertainty over whether a new member will really be unveiled, and the group’s broader decline in drawing power. Opinions split over whether the weak sales stem from a lack of buzz around the new-member reveal itself, or from the group’s long-term drop in popularity. Some also pointed out that trainee-program fans make up part of the attendance, hinting at a harder-to-see reality: the official numbers alone don’t reveal how thin the actual fanbase really is.
※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread ‘Angerme: ‘We’re announcing a new member at Pia Arena MM!’ Hello! Project fans: ‘I see…’ → Still not sold out even though only general and family seats are on sale.’
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