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The story
On November 14, in an international friendly held in Singapore, the Japan national team (ranked 17th in the world) defeated Brazil (ranked 6th) 3-2. It was Japan’s second-ever win over Brazil, following their first in October last year, and it effectively avenged the loss to Brazil at this year’s World Cup in North/Central America. Data circulated online showing that the only two times Carlo Ancelotti’s Brazil side has conceded three goals in a match, both came against Japan — and the Brazilian media tore into the coach, with some outlets even calling for his resignation. On 5ch, opinions split between how seriously to take a friendly match and whether Ancelotti’s reputation is overblown or well-earned.
◇Nov. 14 — International Football Friendly
Japan 3-2 Brazil (Singapore)
Japan (ranked 17th in the world) edged out Brazil (ranked 6th). In their fourth meeting under manager Hajime Moriyasu, Japan followed up their historic first-ever win over Brazil last October with a second victory, completing their revenge for the loss at the World Cup in North/Central America.
Source: video.twimg.com / original article here
What people said
"Wait, who scored them against?"
"Japan."
"And the other time?"
"Japan."
"?!?!?!?"
https://x.com/soccernews_euro/status/2121589603123794048
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW (strings of "W" = Japanese internet laughter, like "lol")
WWWWWWW
Japan vs. Brazil
Market value & salaries
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I mean, the average age of this squad is 23 — it's basically a youth team
Beating Germany and Spain [at the World Cup] was "when it really counted" too
Three matches in one year:
Japan 3-2 Brazil
Japan 1-2 Brazil
Japan 3-2 Brazil
Every single one has been razor-close
Honestly, probably fewer than 100 Australians outside the players' families and staff even know there was an international baseball game today
The Brazilian Football Confederation's revenue is just insane, that's how
Nah, it still works — VAR can't intervene in literally everything
Yeah, but that's not really a line a guy who's a bench-warmer at a second-division club gets to say
Japan's doing the tourist thing too, you know — it's Singapore
Mind naming the actual first- and second-string players for me?
He spent the longest stretch of his playing career at Roma, so I guess that old blood boils up in him sometimes
No way a real soccer fan doesn't know the history
And in that "just a friendly," the manager still got himself sent off lol
It's an official international friendly, so it does count toward the FIFA rankings
If you look closely, Maeda was falling over and basically shoved it through with his hand lol
Well, Brazil losing was fake too, apparently lol
Overrated? He's got a legit track record though
Nobody tops his track record — though maybe that only counts when he's actually running a club
I mean, his track record really is the real deal
Background and Key Points of the Discussion
The thread kicked off after data circulated on social media showing that, under Carlo Ancelotti, Brazil has conceded three goals in a match only twice — and both times were against Japan. This particular match was a friendly held in Singapore, but since international friendlies still count toward the FIFA world rankings, reactions split between “it’s just a friendly, no need to take it seriously” and “it still affects the rankings, so it can’t be dismissed.” The fact that Ancelotti himself was shown a red card during the match also became a talking point, with commenters generally acknowledging his credentials as a top-tier manager while still disagreeing sharply over how to judge his recent results. Note that the specifics and original wording of the Brazilian media’s criticism are not quoted directly in the thread — the reactions here are based on information that circulated on social media.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Hochi+) thread “[Soccer] Brazilian Media Slam Japan National Team After Loss: “Time for Manager Ancelotti to Offer His Resignation”.”
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