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Over on 5ch’s hardware/industry board (Geha), a thread about Nintendo’s new home console, the Switch 2, kicked off with the claim that “despite lining up marquee titles like Mario, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Zelda, and Kirby, it still hasn’t sold 100 million units.” That drew a wave of pushback — “no console has ever sold 100 million units 1 year and 5 months after launch,” “that pace would require selling 8,333 units an hour, non-stop, with no sleep” — and the thread spiraled into a debate over whether that sales pace is even realistic. From there it drifted into a battle of preorder numbers for PS5’s “GTA6” and good old-fashioned console-war taunting.
What people said
・Wolverine — 2.4 million copies in 50 days ← what is this garbage (´・ω・｀)
Wolverine-gar! (mocking "-gar" tagged onto a word to call out a whataboutism-style deflection)
Guess Nishi-kun doesn't know about the Switch 2 Edition ("Nishi-kun" = a derogatory nickname for Nintendo fanboys).
Figures — to Nishi-kun, Nintendo games aren't something you play, they're just a stick to beat PS with.
Didn't expect them to be counting the Switch 2 edition as its own separate unit, lol
Well of course Switch 2 users get mad if you say something that looks down on the Switch 2 Edition.
That's only natural.
You're not even a Switch 2 user.
Show us your Zelda 40th Anniversary Switch then — quit faking it ("air-playing" = pretending you own/played something you don't), lol
Yeah, next year the main-series Pokémon game is finally dropping.
Animal Crossing, Splatoon, a Breath of the Wild-style Zelda, Smash, 3D Mario — none of those are even in sight.
Also, on the hardware boards the new Xenoblade next year might end up getting more attention anyway.
Just noise, lol
Can't counter it, that's hilarious
No need to counter it.
The second you bring up unrelated Wolverine numbers in a thread about the Switch 2 not selling, Nishi-kun's already lost.
See, you can't counter it, lol
you'd need to produce and sell 200,000 units a day.
In other words, that's only achievable if you kept producing and selling 8,333 units every single hour, round the clock, with no sleep.
Does Kizuna just not have any sense of time?
Re: #28
Without showing that, this doesn't actually add up to "yikes."
There's no such example, no.
But it's a number that's achievable if the 100 million fans built up over Mario and Zelda's 40-year history just bought it — so why aren't they buying?
If there's no precedent, then Switch 2 can just be the first one.
[Good news] GTA6 tops 10 million units in preorders alone, lololol
https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1794471069/
Is that PS only?
What's the best-selling game on PS5, and how many copies?
PS5 alone is 7 million.
GTA VI is reportedly the most pre-ordered game in history!
According to Sensor Tower, GTA VI has hit 9.69 million digital preorders.
– PS5: 7.23 million
– Xbox Series X|S: 2.46 million
That works out to an estimated $1 billion or so in pre-release revenue, breaking the previous preorder record of 8 million held by Cyberpunk 2077.
And remarkably, GTA VI pulled this off on just two console platforms — there's no PC release.
https://x.com/GamingCulture_/status/2120132357399441594
are the same question — isn't it a bit much to say "don't change the question"?
Huh.
So how many copies has the best-selling PS5 game actually sold?
Don't change the question.
So we're agreed that PS5 is a healthy hardware market where a new release can pull in 7 million preorders, right?
Sure.
Then we're agreed that Switch, with 10 million units in first-week sales, is a healthier hardware market than PS, right?
Nobody asked that.
The original question was "what do software sales look like for a console that's shipped 100 million units?"
If you're going to tack on extra questions, I'll take it you're admitting GTA6 has already sold 7 million on PS5.
So we're good with "sold 7 million," right?
Just say it sold.
That's a total blowout loss on software sales numbers, isn't it?
Listed as "unread," lmao (that term's normally for books, not games)
Listing it for sale before release is hilarious
Did you actually buy Wolverine?
Was it any good?
If you mean "a riot of color" (flashy-looking but shallow), then no, it wasn't fun.
It's a dud of a game.
Background and key points of this debate
No home console has ever hit 100 million units in under two years — even the original Switch took several years after launch to cross that line. Where the thread’s two sides talked past each other was over whether missing 100 million means marketing has failed, or whether that number was simply never reachable in just one year and five months in the first place; a quick back-of-envelope calculation of the required production/shipping pace comes out to a non-starter of over 8,300 units sold every hour, round the clock, with no sleep. At the same time, there’s a persistent argument that once you’ve lined up marquee titles like Mario, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Zelda, and Kirby, sales should follow as a matter of course — and with neither side budging, the conversation drifted into dueling preorder numbers for other consoles’ games and plain old fan-versus-fan taunting. Worth noting: the GTA6 preorder figures and other PS5-side numbers quoted in the thread come from posters’ own citations and are pre-release estimates.
*This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Switch 2 ‘Rolled out Mario, Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Zelda, and Kirby but still hasn’t sold 100 million units’ — yikes.”
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