Talent First Summer Uika revealed on her TBS Radio show that she doesn’t understand fans who mosh and dive at concerts, saying “What are they even doing… are they listening to the song?” The comment came in response to a listener email complaining that “it was unpleasant seeing audience members who just kept filming on their phones.” On 5ch, opinions split between those who see moshing and diving as an expression of immersion in the music, and those who think fans just want to make noise without listening to the song at all. The thread also wandered into side topics like the difference between “diving” and “crowd surfing,” and a hunt for a male artist with a name similar to First Summer Uika’s.
Fri, Nov 6, 9:35 PM
Talent First Summer Uika appeared on TBS Radio’s “First Summer Uika’s Ton Jin Chi!” on the 6th, and revealed there’s something about her own concert fans’ behavior she doesn’t understand.
A listener had sent in an email saying, “At a concert venue, there was an audience member who kept filming on their phone the whole time instead of listening to the music, and it was unpleasant.”
Because watching old Showa-era retro exploration videos on YouTube is more fun than watching Peace-kun from Omiya Park (a local mascot character).
3AnonymousNov 6, 2026 22:56
I think everyone waving their hands in sync looks creepy, so I don't go to concerts.
4AnonymousNov 6, 2026 22:57
Now that she's quit being an idol herself, she can safely trash-talk the idol industry.
5AnonymousNov 6, 2026 22:58
Even at a live house, I end up listening closely to the music.
6AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:00
It's the same as not wondering whether people at a club are actually listening to the music.
8AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:04
They're listening and getting intoxicated by it — once that intoxication peaks, that's when they dive (´･ω･｀)
9AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:06
She's a singer? I thought she was a comedian.
10AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:07
It's not that they're not thinking — I think their brains are just wired differently.
11AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:08
Idol otaku are "weak men" (socially marginalized guys who feel powerless), repressed in everyday life, so going wild at concerts makes them feel like they're finally fighting back.
13AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:10
They're listening, aren't they? They've already decided "I'm diving on this song" — nobody dives during a ballad.
21AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:15
Re: #13
These guys aren't listening at all.
They just go to concerts for an excuse to make noise.
Same low-intelligence mindset as soccer hooligans.
15AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:12
She's probably not confident enough in her own singing to be asking "are you even listening to the song?" She should be thanking the fans who help hype up the whole performance.
16AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:13
They've got a lot pent up.
It's stress relief.
17AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:13
There was a male singer with a name like "First Summer Uika" but I can't remember who.
26AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:27
Re: #17
Carlos Smokey Ishii
31AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:34
Re: #17
Naoto Intiraimi
53AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:13
Re: #17
Second Winter Nifuyu (a joke name riffing on the "First Summer Uika" naming pattern)
18AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:13
Naoto Intiraimi?
28AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:30
Re: #18
That's the one!
Oh, turns out everyone already knew.
22AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:17
I can't tell First Summer [Uika] and Aina The End apart.
47AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:00
Re: #22
The one trying to get in Tetsuko's good graces is First Summer Uika (referring to veteran TV host Tetsuko Kuroyanagi).
30AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:33
Everyone raising their hands and fluttering them side to side is the creepiest part.
32AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:35
I hate this move that's common in J-pop even more —
＞ノ＞ノ (a hand-waving emoticon)
33AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:38
It's like those guys at soccer matches who turn their backs to the game and just bang drums, right?
34AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:39
People talk all sorts of nonsense about Maximum the Hormone's mosh pits being insane, but the only time in my life I genuinely feared for my life was at Michelle Gun Elephant's show at Toyosu, my second Fuji Rock.
45AnonymousNov 6, 2026 23:57
If all you want is to listen to the song, you don't need to go to a live show for that.
50AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:09
Re: #45
People who've never actually been to a live show say stuff like this, huh ("ライブエアプ" — armchair concert-goer).
52AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:12
There's a note saying it's when the audience moves over other people's heads, but isn't that crowd surfing?
Diving is mainly supposed to mean jumping from the stage into the crowd — has that changed now?
58AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:28
Re: #52
I know the term "crowd surf" exists, but nobody actually bothers calling it that.
It's been this way forever.
57AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:27
It's still not well understood exactly which parts of the brain music stimulates and how much, but since it releases dopamine, it's well known to sometimes produce reactions similar to those seen in drug addicts.
68AnonymousNov 7, 2026 01:04
Re: #57
Endorphins = morphine
Dopamine = amphetamines
That's the "feel-good" effect you get from music, sweets, or carb-heavy white rice.
63AnonymousNov 7, 2026 00:43
BILLIE IDLE®, the female vocal unit First Summer Uika used to lead
https://youtu.be/aWwG_KB-3xo?si=NOfr4EgLtMsYTOL6
69AnonymousNov 7, 2026 01:08
It's become completely formalized.
The guys doing it think it's rock, it's hardcore,
but what they're actually doing is act like tamed livestock.
No different from idol otaku doing their "oi-oi" call-and-response chants in the background.
81AnonymousNov 7, 2026 02:08
Re: #69
And even that gets rejected in the form of straight edge, which then just turns into its own dogma.
Background and Points of Debate
Moshing and diving are practices that spread through the punk and hardcore scenes from the 1970s onward, with violently moving your body to the music long considered a legitimate form of fan expression. On the other hand, “diving” originally referred specifically to jumping from the stage into the crowd, while moving over the heads of the audience is technically called “crowd surfing” — strictly speaking a different thing, though today the two terms are often used interchangeably. In the thread, commenter No. 52 pointed out this distinction, and No. 58 replied that “nobody actually calls it that anymore,” showing how the terminology itself has shifted over time — a nuance the original article alone doesn’t convey. The debate splits between whether this behavior is proof fans aren’t listening to the music, or simply a form of total immersion in it, and no consensus has been reached either way.
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