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A post claiming to be from a pachinko parlor manager pleaded that “at this rate, every pachinko parlor in Japan will go bankrupt,” sparking a wave of discussion on 5ch. The thread debated the industry’s future, touching on how the player base keeps shrinking even as average spending per customer keeps climbing, and the knock-on effect on anime productions that have long relied on pachinko money.
What people said
Is that really what you want?
Do you honestly think we pachinko halls have unlimited money?
And on top of that, the manager's the one who ends up hated by the customers too.
Most of the makers have other business lines going anyway.
The gameplay is totally different, so it's not really picking up the slack.
If anything, we NEED it to become the safety net.
Just because someone likes gambling doesn't mean they like every kind of gambling.
Turning down Sammy seems like a waste — they're not just a pachinko company.
SEGA: "Come work for us instead." (Sammy and SEGA are sister companies under SEGA Sammy Holdings)
Renting pachinko balls is subject to consumption tax, so ironically it's the people who DON'T play pachinko who'd be worse off if the industry went under.
A lot of former pachinko parlor lots out in the suburbs just sit abandoned as-is — not sure that's really a good thing.
・"I'm winning overall."
・"I didn't lose, I just banked it at the parlor."
・"I had fun AND they gave some of it back — that's practically generous of them."
I earned positive expected value.
Yeah, that one's a classic too.
I mean, I really am earning positive EV.
Even Maruhan [Japan's biggest pachinko chain] has reportedly nearly halved in the past decade… The scary part is that average spending per customer keeps rising in inverse proportion.
An industry trying to make up for losing customers by squeezing the remaining ones harder — that's a death star shining way too bright (a Fist of the North Star reference to an omen of doom).
Well yeah, the price per ball keeps climbing, so of course. And with the machines tightened up on top of that, there's no way to win.
Sounds like it'd just get siphoned off by sports betting instead — a system that sends the money straight overseas.
If that alone were enough to revive Japan, the economy should already be booming.
In reality, as tax revenue from pachinko drops, the burden just shifts onto people who don't even play.
If it disappears, the anime industry could be in trouble.
Is it really that many though?
Can't be helped, switch over to casino money then.
Evangelion was basically made entirely on pachinko money, right?
Symphogear and Basilisk too. Though apparently Basilisk's "Ouka" spin-off, made banking on pachinko money, turned out so bad that a pachinko or slot machine for Ouka doesn't look promising.
Symphogear was already popular on its own lol
Sorry, don't know either one of those.
Background and Key Points
Pachinko occupies a strange legal gray zone in Japan: it isn’t licensed as gambling, because the parlor pays out only tokens or prizes, which players then sell for cash at a separate “exchange shop” (sankyō) technically unaffiliated with the hall. That workaround, dating to the postwar occupation era, is what has let an industry worth roughly ¥30 trillion at its 1990s peak operate legally for decades. Player numbers have collapsed since then — from tens of millions of regulars to a shrinking, aging core — even as per-customer spending rises, which is the “efficiency” posters in the thread are alluding to: fewer players being squeezed harder rather than the industry recovering. Maruhan, cited in the thread, is the largest chain and a useful bellwether for the sector’s health.
Where the thread actually splits is on whether pachinko’s decline is a problem worth mourning at all — some posters treat a shrinking industry as a public good (less predatory gambling, money not leaving Japan through side channels), while others point to real downstream costs: consumption tax revenue, rural land left derelict, and licensing money that funded anime productions like Evangelion.
What’s likely to surprise foreign readers is the North Korea allegation mentioned only in passing (post 20) — it’s a decades-old, well-documented political claim that some pachinko revenue, particularly from parlors linked to Chongryon (the pro-Pyongyang Korean residents’ association), was remitted to North Korea, a claim that shaped Japanese public suspicion of the industry long before today’s economic debate. The thread never explains this, but it’s the subtext behind why “at least horse racing money doesn’t fund North Korean missiles” lands as a serious jab rather than a throwaway line.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Pachinko Parlor Manager Snaps: ‘Final Warning — At This Rate, Every Pachinko Parlor in Japan Will Go Bankrupt’”.
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