Keio University’s Hironari Hiroike to Challenge MLB Without Going Through NPB — 5ch: “Let’s See Results First, Then We’ll Talk”

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Keio University pitcher Hironari Hiroike (22) has decided to pursue a challenge in MLB without going through NPB if he isn’t drafted at the October 22 NPB Draft Meeting, Nikkan Sports reported. He throws a fastball topping out at 156 km/h (97 mph), and several US teams, including the Rangers and Yankees, are reportedly interested. His father is Koji Hiroike (53), general manager of the Seibu Lions, and if this comes to pass, he would follow fellow Keio alum Kotaro Tsunematsu (22), who signed with the Cubs last year, becoming the second straight year a Keio player has joined an MLB organization. On 5ch, discussion spread to cover the difficulty of challenging the majors without NPB experience, the attention drawn by his father’s position as a team executive, and the current struggles of Tsunematsu, who went to the US before him.

Nikkan Sports

[October 14, 2026, 4:55 AM]

It was learned on the 13th that Keio University pitcher Hironari Hiroike (senior = Keio), son of Seibu Lions general manager Koji Hiroike (53) and owner of a fastball that tops out at 156 km/h, has decided to pursue a challenge in MLB without going through NPB. If he is not drafted at the October 22 Draft Meeting, he will accelerate the move to the majors he has been harboring. Negotiations would come after the full official schedule concludes, but if realized, he would follow outfielder Kotaro Tsunematsu (22), who signed with the Cubs last year, as the second consecutive year a Keio player has joined an MLB organization. According to sources in the baseball world, several US teams have already shown interest, making his future moves one to watch closely.

Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 14, 2026 05:59
Go to a good university and get a good dog
That way you'll be set for life thanks to the seniority system

  (∪^ω^) Woof woof!
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=  ◎――◎
4AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:10
Clawing your way up from the minors is brutal in MLB. In Japan there's still a shot ("wanchan" — punning on "one chance" and the dog joke above) of going straight into the starting lineup on the top team.
6AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:17
Re: #4
That TDN guy made it to the majors in about two years though.
8AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:20
Re: #4
The only Japanese pitchers without NPB experience who've ever made it to the majors are probably Mac Suzuki, Tadano, and Tazawa.
And they were all first-round-pick caliber.
60AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:10
Re: #4
What about Roki Sasaki?
5AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:13
Well, let's see some results first.
We'll talk after that.
7AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:19
Seibu drafts him in the developmental slot
→ "I was moved by GM Hiroike's persuasion, I'll sign with Seibu"
What are the odds of this actually happening?
28AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:02
Re: #7
In that case, Seibu would need to draft him in that year's draft.
9AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:20
Re: #4
Because NPB doesn't really "develop" players —
pitch-count management and position assignments are all one-sided.
10AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:21
If it doesn't work out, Daddy's probably got a job lined up for him too, right?

Must be nice being a Keio kid.
12AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:32
Come to think of it, what's Tsunematsu up to these days?
16AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:37
Re: #12
Apparently he got married. Well, if you can afford to get married while still in the minors, he's probably got other options even if baseball doesn't pan out.
48AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:37
Re: #12
He broke his wrist this season and has
only played in 6 games.
13AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:33
Well, he's not top-tier talent so I think it's a "sure, go ahead" situation. That Tsunematsu guy only went to America because he went undrafted too.
14AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:34
He seems like he'd do decently in NPB, so why bother?
He could just live comfortably with Seibu.
15AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:36
Did Hiroike really rise all the way to GM despite not having much of a pro playing record?
27AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:01
Re: #15
He's the key figure behind this year's Seibu resurgence on the front-office side.
Seems like a pretty capable guy.
37AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:15
Re: #15
Having a good playing record doesn't automatically mean you're good at the job either. He was probably just a competent professional in his own right.
17AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:37
So that Hiroike's son grew into such a fine pitcher.
The father himself hurt his shoulder and played as a fielder through high school, college, and corporate-league ball, yet still entered the pros as a pitcher.
If he hadn't hurt his shoulder, he might have become an incredible pitcher.
18AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:37
Even if it doesn't work out, top companies will hire him just for having taken the challenge, right?
20AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:43
I'd rather have Iiyama Junior than Hiroike Junior.
33AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:06
Re: #20
Who the heck is Iiyama?
21AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:44
The father's career history is way too interesting.
44AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:28
Re: #21
Hiroike gives off a strong Hiroshima image, but
far from having no connection to Seibu,
he was actually a member of the Seibu Lions Fan Club
as a kid,
so he's basically one of the longest-standing Seibu Lions fans there is.
22AnonymousOct 14, 2026 06:44
His dad is a guy who carved out his own path to the pros too.
41AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:25
By the way, Rintaro, 22, who signed with the Marlins this year, will be in the rookie league next year,
and Morii, who signed last year, is currently in a lower-level A-ball league.

If they don't produce results within a few years, they'll be cut.
It's not like they'll wait eight years for you the way they did for Neo.
—
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/日本人のマイナーリーグ選手一覧

① MLB — Ohtani, Yamamoto, Seiya, and others
② AAA — Chicago's Nishida (2023)
③ AA — Athletics' Tomioka (2020)
④ High-A — Seattle's Oyama Seiichiro (2025)
⑤ Low-A — Athletics' Morii (2025), San Diego's Moriki (2026, formerly Hanshin)
⑥ Rookie — Cubs' Tsunematsu (2025), Miami's Sasaki Rintaro (2026)
46AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:31
Re: #41
Is Nishida actually pretty amazing?
49AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:37
Re: #46
> Re: #41
> Is Nishida actually pretty amazing?

Nishida is definitely one of the success stories.
He went from Tohoku High School to a US college, then
got picked in the 11th round (329th overall) of the 2023 MLB Draft.
From there, he made it to the majors in just three years.

He's small (168cm/5'6"), but he probably got noticed for being able to play a
heads-up, detail-oriented brand of baseball.
42AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:25
Let's be honest, Big-Six-league Keio is a pain to deal with.
They don't impose an obvious round cutoff,
but there's an atmosphere where the baseball team's pride makes them resist low-round or developmental picks.

Even though Kiyohara's son himself says he doesn't care about that,
the coach and the OBs (alumni) around him make a fuss about it — of course he doesn't get drafted.
45AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:30
Re: #42
That's probably why Tanida Seigo went undrafted too.
56AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:03
Guys who take on challenges like this are fools.
Giving up from the start and doing nothing, like us, is the real win.
57AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:08
Re: #56
There's no winning or losing.
In Dragon Quest terms, you're still level 1.
71AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:23
Re: #60
Still, that guy built his record as a pro first, so it's totally different.
82AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:34
Re: #71
As a reply to that post it works fine and isn't wrong.
72AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:23
There are tons of pitchers out there who can only throw hard.
85AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:38
Re: #72
Why is the Dodgers' Enriquez — a flamethrower on the level of Mizurowski (was that the name?) — stuck as like the 5th reliever in the bullpen?
If he's got heat like that, he should just learn three more pitches and start instead.
He's throwing 164 km/h (102 mph) without even trying hard.
84AnonymousOct 14, 2026 08:37
Well, if you're a Keio grad, making some memories in the US before slipping into a top-tier company might honestly be smarter than floundering around in NPB.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

Among Japanese pitchers who went straight to the majors without going through NPB, only a handful — Mac Suzuki, Kazuhito Tadano, and Junichi Tazawa — actually managed to stick in MLB. Roki Sasaki, whose name came up in the thread, is a different case: he was posted after building a track record in NPB first, so the premise doesn’t match Hiroike’s situation. Meanwhile, Hiroike’s father, Koji Hiroike, is drawing attention less for his own playing record than for his reputation as the front-office figure credited with Seibu’s roster-building behind this season’s resurgence — turning jabs like “he got promoted despite a thin playing record” into, in effect, a fair acknowledgment of his front-office skill. The comparison repeatedly cited was Kotaro Tsunematsu (22), who signed a minor-league deal with the Cubs last year but has struggled this season — hitting .150 in just 6 games after a wrist fracture — serving as a recurring example of how hard it is to aim directly for the majors. The thread’s discussion settled into two overlapping threads: “how difficult it is to challenge MLB without going through NPB” and “this is a path only available because of his Keio background and family circumstances,” mixing genuine evaluation of his ability with pointed commentary on his social background.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “Keio’s Hironari Hiroike leaning toward an MLB challenge, drawing interest from multiple teams including the Rangers and Yankees — following Keio alum Kotaro Tsunematsu (22), who signed with the Cubs last year.”

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