New Structure Found at Sannai-Maruyama Ruins, Possibly a Grave — 5ch: ‘Not the God Hand Again’

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At a progress briefing on excavation work at the Sannai-Maruyama site in Aomori Prefecture, researchers reported finding a new structure that may be a grave. Sannai-Maruyama is one of Japan’s largest archaeological sites, documenting roughly 10,000 years of settled Jomon-period life, and is known for a sophisticated sedentary culture sustained by chestnut cultivation and fishing. On 5ch, rather than excitement about the find itself, commenters mostly brought up the “God Hand” scandal — the infamous Paleolithic artifact fabrication case uncovered years ago — and the thread spun off into debate over the origins of the Jomon people, the climate of the time, and the beginnings of agriculture.

Sannai-Maruyama Site Excavation: New Structure Discovered

A briefing was held on the fiscal year 2026 excavation survey at the Sannai-Maruyama site, reporting the discovery of a new structure that may be a grave.

(Omitted — see the source for the rest.)

Source: aba-net.com / Original article here

What people said

3AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:42
God Hand
4AnonymousOct 12, 2026 22:45
Wonder if there'll be grave goods — jade jewelry, carbonized acorn cookies… so hyped!
5AnonymousOct 13, 2026 00:24
This whole area's riddled with ruins, they just haven't finished digging it all up
6AnonymousOct 13, 2026 02:41
Why Aomori, though? So many questions
7AnonymousOct 13, 2026 03:57
Re: #6
Honestly I don't get why that's even a question. They settled there for over 10,000 years thanks to rich fishing grounds and abundant forests (chestnut cultivation). These are the people who made the goggle-eyed clay figurines (shakoki-dogu) and the praying clay figures (gassho-dogu).
12AnonymousOct 13, 2026 06:49
Re: #6
Farming probably would've been tough there, so fishing makes sense
8AnonymousOct 13, 2026 04:41
According to Motohiko Izawa, it was a lifestyle with 'zero progress for 1,500 years'
14AnonymousOct 13, 2026 06:54
Re: #8
Compared to today, you could say almost nowhere in the world made much progress before the Industrial Revolution
16AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:16
Re: #8
That just means it was a peaceful era where people had little to complain about.
27AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:18
Re: #8
In a way it was a good era — easy to live in. Once farming starts and storage becomes possible, gaps in living standards appear, and that's when conflict begins.
9AnonymousOct 13, 2026 05:04
What did people use to win hearts and minds back then?
– Rituals/charms (majinai)
– Military force
– What else?
28AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:42
Re: #9
The Jomon period didn't rely much on military force. It's not that there were no conflicts with neighboring settlements — there are human bones showing signs of violent death — but what mattered most in this era was advanced life skills. It's like modern camping: the key was living comfortably, healthily, and without hunger. Pottery for cooking, stone arrowheads for hunting, and the skills to make clothing and housing all mattered just as much.
10AnonymousOct 13, 2026 06:26
Not the God Hand again
13AnonymousOct 13, 2026 06:50
Probably salmon and deer
15AnonymousOct 13, 2026 07:03
This is an Ainu site.
17AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:19
Apparently back then, Aomori — or really all of Tohoku — was warm enough to grow chestnuts, warmer than it is now
18AnonymousOct 13, 2026 08:50
Whenever a dig like this turns up an Eastern Japan site, the God Hand scandal just can't help but cross your mind
20AnonymousOct 13, 2026 09:34
'God Hand' — the idiot who couldn't even tell stone tools from pottery
22AnonymousOct 13, 2026 10:00
Re: #20
Surprising how many people can't even explain the difference between the Paleolithic and Neolithic, either
21AnonymousOct 13, 2026 09:45
Why a snow country though?

During the Jomon period, warmer regions would've been better, no?
23AnonymousOct 13, 2026 10:30
I mean, pulling a 'God Hand' with pottery wouldn't be that big a deal anyway, right?
25AnonymousOct 13, 2026 10:44
There was a time I believed that about the stone-tool scandal too, you know. (riffing on the classic 5ch 'been there, believed that' meme)
26AnonymousOct 13, 2026 11:12
This isn't some 'oh look, pottery, must be a ruin!' level of discovery
29AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:01
Re: #8
Under a materialist view of history, that's the only conclusion you can reach. But just like evolutionary theory insists evolution proceeds gradually even when it's not visible, Jomon-period culture and civilization actually changed a lot depending on the era.
30AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:06
Re: #27
Farming had already begun during the Jomon period — it's only paddy rice cultivation that was delayed until the late Jomon. Murder was common too.
32AnonymousOct 13, 2026 19:28
Re: #30
Once paddy rice cultivation starts, that's already the Yayoi period by definition. There's no need to make the silly claim that paddy rice farming began in the late Jomon — if an older example turns up, it just pushes the start of the Yayoi period back further.
35AnonymousOct 13, 2026 23:11
Re: #32
The Jomon period is neither Paleolithic nor Neolithic — there's now a concept called the Mesolithic, and Jomon fits that category. The Yayoi period, meanwhile, lumps together the Neolithic, Bronze Age, and Iron Age because they can't be cleanly separated.

Also, before WWII, rice farming wasn't thought to exist yet in the Yayoi period, so in a sense both the Jomon and Yayoi periods used to be considered 'Mesolithic.'

I think the whole periodization system needs rethinking:
Jomon period → Mesolithic
Early Yayoi → Neolithic
Middle Yayoi → Bronze Age
Late Yayoi / early Kofun → Iron Age

As for the Kofun period too, instead of using keyhole-shaped tumuli (zenpokoenfun) as the benchmark, it should be defined by the presence of an individual ruler's mausoleum that isn't a communal burial ground.
37AnonymousOct 13, 2026 23:48
Re: #32
Around year 1 to 50 CE. Rice farming was introduced around the time the Kingdom of Israel had close ties with Qin Shi Huang, the First Emperor of Qin.
33AnonymousOct 13, 2026 19:50
That 'God Hand' guy got textbooks rewritten twice, after all
34AnonymousOct 13, 2026 21:11
Re: #1
The iconic post-supported building can probably be imagined as serving both as a lookout and for ritual use — basically a large dwelling for the tribe's leader figure.

Compared to that, though, the dwellings of the ordinary class who presumably supported the tribe seem awfully few.

I'm also curious about the climate conditions and food production levels of the time.
36AnonymousOct 13, 2026 23:28
Probably the remains of dwellings belonging to the Kasai clan, who migrated to Hokkaido in 1100, and the Ainu people
38AnonymousOct 13, 2026 23:49
Re: #35
Japan never really used bronze for practical tools, so there wasn't really a Bronze Age
41AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:58
Re: #38
Yeah, because it arrived almost at the same time as iron
39AnonymousOct 13, 2026 23:57
This, though, is the Jomon period
40AnonymousOct 14, 2026 07:57
Re: #35
Yeah, stone tools vs. iron tools is probably fine for the broad periodization. For anything more detailed, you could factor in regional differences through cultural complexes.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Sannai-Maruyama was a large settlement that lasted roughly 1,700 years from the early to middle Jomon period, known for managed chestnut cultivation and a wide-ranging trade network. The “God Hand” reference that kept coming up in the thread points to a 1990s fabrication scandal in which a researcher was found to have planted Paleolithic-era artifacts himself before “discovering” them — it has since become a stock joke trotted out whenever a new archaeological find is reported. As for why a large settlement was built in a cold region like Aomori, commenters pointed to the theory that the climate back then was warmer than today, supporting a settled lifestyle sustained by rich fishing grounds and forest resources. Opinions also diverged over when farming began and how to draw the line between the Jomon and Yayoi periods, with one camp holding that the Yayoi period begins with the start of paddy rice cultivation, and another arguing that farming already existed in the late Jomon period. It’s worth noting that the article itself doesn’t go into detail on the actual scale or dating of the structure presented at the briefing.

*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Archaeology] Sannai-Maruyama Site Excavation: New Structure Discovered.”

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