Antitrust Watchdog Raids Japan’s Big Four Beer Makers — 5ch: “We’ve Been Rigging Prices Since the Kamakura Era”

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The story

On October 7, Nippon TV News reported that Japan’s Fair Trade Commission has launched a forcible investigation into the four major beer sellers — Asahi, Kirin, Sapporo, and Suntory. The companies are suspected of coordinating the timing and size of price hikes over many years. On 5ch, reactions split wide open: some joked that Japan has had a “collusion culture since the Kamakura era,” others pointed to a tax system that pushes prices into lockstep, and some speculated the investigation might actually bring prices down.

10/7 (Wed) 10:32

Nippon TV News NNN

Over suspected price-fixing in the beer market, Japan’s Fair Trade Commission has just launched a forcible investigation into four beer sales companies — Asahi, Kirin, Sapporo, and Suntory.

Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

What people said

12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:44
Who cares
Japan's been a nation of bid-rigging since the Kamakura era (1185–1333)
And it's worked out fine for us so far
30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:48
Re: #12
There's even a rest stop on the Chuo Expressway named "Dango-zaka" (literally "Collusion Hill")
288AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:23
Re: #12
Don't disrespect capitalism
34AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:49
Guess it wasn't just ice cream after all
42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:50
Revoke their licenses already
46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:51
Re: #34
Everyone already knows that
The whole food industry does it
99AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:58
Re: #46
It's not just the food industry
Bid-rigging is old news at this point — what's weird is why beer got picked out of all the cartels out there
51AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:51
I guess it's fine since the alcoholics will end up covering the fines anyway (via the price hikes)
59AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:52
And this after they raised taxes to kill off happoshu (low-malt "near-beer")
75AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:54
Re: #59
Thanks to Abe raising the tax, happoshu basically turned into water!
108AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:58
Re: #59
Kinmugi and Honkirin got reclassified as actual "beer" too, so they'll probably keep hiking prices from there
76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:54
Not to put it harshly, but I don't get why they'd risk collusion in an age where anyone can compare prices online in seconds — especially now that the public already shrugs off price hikes as inevitable given inflation
125AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:00
Re: #76
Each company discloses its production costs
So they're probably coordinating a price floor so everyone can still turn a decent profit
82AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:55
Yona Yona Ale is the only one I trust
93AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:57
Re: #82
It's too flavorful for me
Dry beer is just easier to drink
107AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:58
A 500ml happoshu can is 270 yen now
People are just going to keep drinking less, and that'll be the end of it
116AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:59
Re: #107
"Third category" beer already got reclassified as real beer, so happoshu's probably next to go
129AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:01
Re: #1
Docomo, au, SoftBank all over again huh
149AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:03
Re: #129
They play that game well
One breaks ranks now and then, but the others fall right back in line, so prices never actually drop
144AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:02
There's no developed country left that's lax — let alone tolerant — about drinking anymore
Japan's slipped to mid-tier status and still can't kick the alcohol habit — a pathetic nation in decline
165AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:05
Re: #144
Someone who has no clue how many beer varieties exist in Europe and the US is talking
175AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:06
Re: #144
You've probably never watched foreign news in your life
You're just cherry-picking anti-alcohol stories from overseas that confirm what you want to believe

That's exactly why nobody invites you to drinking parties
218AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:11
Re: #144
When I went to Paris, tons of people were drinking wine in broad daylight
In Vienna too, plenty of people were drinking beer on weekday evenings
155AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:04
So this means the beer companies were pressuring supermarkets not to raise prices?
Is this raid going to send beer prices through the roof then

Ever since the plastic bag charge, the government's just been doing whatever convenience stores and supermarkets want
179AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:06
Re: #155

"Suspected of coordinating the size and timing of price increases over many years"

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That includes companies that didn't even need to raise prices

This is just a piggyback hike where everyone matched the same increase
219AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:11
Re: #155
It's the opposite
This could actually make beer cheaper

Until now they coordinated to wholesale it to supermarkets at a high price
There may even have been pressure on supermarkets not to sell it cheap in some cases
Because if one supermarket sold it cheap, they'd have to sell it cheap to every other retailer too
That would eat into the beer companies' profits
So they coordinated to keep the wholesale price high to avoid that
166AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:05
Re: #1
The FTC should hit each company with something like a 10 billion yen fine so they never want to cartel again lol
177AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:06
Re: #166
Seriously, this
Otherwise they'll definitely do it again
192AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:07
Re: #166
Even if they do that, consumers still only have the big brands to pick from, so is it really a punishment? It's just for show
169AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:05
Every so-called "big corporation" in this country does bid-rigging
That's exactly why they can't compete at all overseas
180AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:06
Re: #169
Big companies might as well rewrite their articles of incorporation to say "fighting over tax money" as their core business
236AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:14
This is the government trying to shift the blame onto the manufacturers
If they actually want free competition, fix the tax system that's designed to squeeze every last yen first
When you're taking 50 yen in tax off a 200 yen product, of course prices all end up lined up the same
249AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:16
Re: #236
Exactly this
Same deal with gas prices being basically identical everywhere
255AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:17
Re: #236
Cigarettes get taxed even harder, and yet their prices aren't all identical
251AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:17
What's your favorite beer brand?
267AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:19
Re: #251
Yebisu might actually be stronger than Suntory
269AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:19
Re: #251
Kirin really is strong — I thought it'd be neck-and-neck with Asahi
276AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:21
Re: #251
Lol, Kagoshima's the only prefecture with no answer
266AnonymousOct 7, 2026 11:19
The reason Don Quijote's beer is so cheap

Background and key points of this story

This isn’t the first time beer makers have faced suspicion of violating Japan’s Antimonopoly Act (cartel behavior) — the Fair Trade Commission has cracked down on similar practices in the food and beverage industry before. On the thread, some laughed it off as “just Japan’s usual bid-rigging habit, nothing new,” while others pointed out that if the companies had been propping up prices together, prices could actually fall once the crackdown takes effect. Years of tax hikes on happoshu and other beer-type beverages — plus the shift of new-genre liquor-based drinks like Honkirin and Kinmugi into the “beer” tax category — form part of the backdrop to the industry’s pricing pressure. For now this is only a forcible investigation stage; no Antimonopoly Act violation has been formally confirmed. If a violation is established, it could lead to surcharge payments and cease-and-desist orders, which may in turn affect the industry’s pricing structure.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Breaking] Beer prices may have been coordinated — FTC launches forcible investigation into Asahi, Kirin, and other major beer makers“.

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