Tamagawa Toru Sparks Controversy: ‘The Reason We’re Happy About Medals Is Because We’re Losing to China in GDP’

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Toru Tamagawa, a former TV Asahi employee turned TV commentator, remarked on a news program broadcast September 29 that Japan’s medal haul at the ongoing Asian Games in Aichi/Nagoya reflects the fact that “the reason people are happy about winning gold medals is that Japan is losing to China in GDP.” When the remark was posted on 5channel’s “Nandemo Jikkyo” (Live Commentary) board, the thread split between support and criticism. While many criticized him, asking whether he could say the same thing to the athletes’ faces, others sympathized with the point itself, saying things like “he’s just describing the psychology of the viewers” and “it’s true that developing countries get more excited about gold medals.” The discussion expanded from there into questions about the value of medals and the Asian Games’ own lack of name recognition.

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Toru Tamagawa, a former TV Asahi employee, appeared on September 29 on the news program “Hatori Shinichi Morning Show” (TV Asahi group), where he serves as a commentator, and shared his personal opinion on the ongoing Asian Games in Aichi/Nagoya.

That day’s broadcast reported on Japan’s medal rush, including gold and silver medals won by Japanese athletes in the men’s 3000m steeplechase final on September 28.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

3AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:20
Is there any reason other than the fact it's being hosted at home?
5AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:21
Well, this is probably true on some subconscious level.
It's a fact that developing countries get more excited about gold medals — Japan used to be the same way.
6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:21
The result of being so contrarian he's lost his humanity.
8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:22
This guy sounds like he'd be posting on the Kencho board (5ch's notoriously cynical, anti-corporate forum).
10AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:23
He's saying the exact same thing as my old man 🤔
11AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:23
What is this guy even saying?
Say that to the athletes' faces.
14AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:24
He wouldn't dare say it with an athlete standing right in front of him lol
Go say the same thing to the medalists themselves.
17AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:24
All he can do is take contrarian positions — the guy's basically the king of this board (nanG).
18AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:24
Then maybe they just shouldn't air it on TBS.
23AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:24
Tamagawa isn't really saying anything about the athletes' effort, is he?
He's talking about the psychology of the people watching.
25AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:25
I mean, "so what if you won gold in Puyo Puyo" is a fair point too.
27AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:25
If Japanese people actually cared about the Asian Games, the stands wouldn't be that empty.
28AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:26
Japanese people are indifferent, and yet it's the TV stations forcing the hype.
30AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:28
Don't talk like some bitter kid with no club activities sneering at the sports teams.
31AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:28
China's got a massive lead in the medal count.
32AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:29
China really is strong at sports.
They're running away with first place in golds.
36AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:30
Re: #32
Given their population, they're actually pretty weak, especially in team sports.
Same goes for how they can't really compete in the major sports.
38AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:32
No wonder people stop watching TV when he says stuff like this.
If it's just the show you want, there's Tver (Japan's free streaming service) anyway.
39AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:32
Trying to tie everything back to politics, economics, or national rivalry is basically a sickness at this point.
People weren't even that interested in the Games to begin with.
41AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:34
Every community's got its own echo chamber, huh.
42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:36
We're just not the kind of people who think that deeply about it.
43AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:37
The Games are being held on home soil this time and the buzz is still lukewarm.

And on the political side, the organizing has been so bad that both the left and the right are furious.
45AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:42
Re: #43
The Asian Games just don't have much name recognition to begin with.
Nobody remembers when or where past Games were held, or who did what.
44AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:42
There's nothing in the Asian Games that gets people excited except table tennis.
Table tennis is basically a de facto world championship, so that one's genuinely fun to watch.
46AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:46
Honestly, sneering at people for winning medals is the creepier move here.
47AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:46
The Asian Games is a garbage event run as an Olympic tune-up that just leaves behind a negative legacy.
The only time it actually succeeds is when it gets suddenly moved to a substitute host, purely because there's no time or money left to overspend.
49AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:50
That's hilarious.
It's like saying nobody was happy about medals before Japan got overtaken (by China in GDP).
50AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:51
This guy doesn't know anything.
It's not just GDP — we're losing to them across the board.
52AnonymousSep 29, 2026 19:56
The medals themselves are impressive, but I don't get how big a deal the Asian Games actually are, so I can't judge the medals' real value.
Is it a bigger deal than the Olympics?
55AnonymousSep 29, 2026 20:02
Re: #52
Goes without saying, it's below the Olympics.
59AnonymousSep 29, 2026 20:09
Re: #52
You can tell by comparing the times to world records.
54AnonymousSep 29, 2026 20:01
Mess around with generative AI for a bit and you start thinking China's impressive.
57AnonymousSep 29, 2026 20:07
The biggest highlight was the Puyo Puyo gold medal.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Toru Tamagawa is a flagship commentator on TV Asahi’s “Hatori Shinichi Morning Show,” known for frequently making headlines with contrarian takes on current events. This year’s Asian Games are being held on home turf in Aichi/Nagoya, but domestic interest has been noted as low, with visibly empty seats in the stands — a point echoed in the thread, with comments like “the Asian Games themselves have low name recognition” and “nothing gets people excited except table tennis.” China has far outpaced host nation Japan in gold medal count, and Tamagawa’s framing — mapping the gap in economic power onto a country-versus-country sporting event — connects to a broader discourse that ties medal counts at international competitions to national prestige. In the thread, the pushback centered less on whether the remark was right or wrong and more on phrasing that sounded dismissive of the athletes’ efforts, with opinions further split by people’s personal views of Tamagawa himself.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Good News] Toru Tamagawa: ‘The reason people are happy about winning gold medals at the Asian Games is that Japan is losing to China in GDP, right?’“

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