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A post on a Hello! Project message board sparked discussion after tallying how many new songs each group has released since 2022. According to the numbers posted, Juice=Juice has put out 27 songs — fewer than Morning Musume。’26 — and the gap looks especially stark next to ANGERME’s 35. Some posters read the low song count as a sign Juice=Juice is being frozen out by their agency, while others countered that the group has been racking up hits despite the small output, splitting opinion between those who value quantity and those who value quality. The talk spread into the quality of each group’s songs themselves, with users also clashing over which tracks actually get the crowd going at concerts.
What people said
27 — Morning Musume。'26
35 — ANGERME
Whoever's running the show there still can't accept that Juice is actually selling.
I thought they were just doing live cover tracks.
They did drop a song called 'Karei naru Revenger' (The Gorgeous Revenger).
Ironic that it's the winner singing it.
October 9th is a Friday, so nothing's dropping that day.
Just disband already.
Only 3 so far this year (plus one anime tie-in).
'Hatsukoi no Bourei' (Ghost of First Love) → a bloop single
'Shi no Go no' (No Ifs, Ands, or Buts) → a triple
'Moremi' (nickname for 'Moresugite Gomen') → a grand slam out of the park
'Bura Bare' (short for 'Bravo Shite Valentine') → a double
'Amaenna' (Don't Get Spoiled) → a double
Juice is batting 1.000 with a cycle hit.
They're at a level where they could drop a full album and a single at the same time before the year's out.
Shouldn't you be embarrassed that no other group even has a song that can beat it?
Morning Musume just had more TV exposure before Juice=Juice came along — their song count is actually the second-lowest, right behind Juice=Juice's, per Re: #1.
How can it be 'substantial' if nobody's even streaming it on Spotify?
ANGERME's songs: a full course meal.
Instant ramen gets eaten more often, but the people who've had the course meal rate it way higher.
Newcomers start with the cheap stuff, but they eventually work their way up to the course meal.
A course meal with no main dish.
Maybe deal with the fact that every other Hello! Project song this year has lost to that 'boring' track.
Sounds like you've never actually been to a show.
Please stop killing the concert vibe with a flop song.
It's the songs with no numbers behind them that actually kill the concert vibe.
The biggest mood-killer is the flop song 'Kurakura'.
Back up your opinion with some evidence.
Nobody actually thinks that — the agency just wants to call it a success.
You can pull strings to boost numbers, but you can't pull strings to make something grow that isn't — so anything not growing is simply unpopular and killing the mood.
Wait, and is HAPPY's song 'HAPPY!' any better?
Background and Key Points of the Debate
It’s worth noting that this kind of new-song-count comparison is something an individual user tallied up on their own on 5ch, and the totals can shift depending on how far you go in counting singles, coupling tracks, or concert-only songs. Some in the thread tied the low song count to the agency supposedly “freezing out” the group, but that’s purely speculation — there’s no official statement confirming any such policy. At the same time, plenty of posters praised the group for its streaming numbers and live reception despite the smaller output, and the thread’s temperature shifted depending on whether people were judging by quantity or quality. It’s also worth keeping in mind that Hello! Project runs multiple groups in parallel, and differences in release pace and concept naturally follow from each group’s own release strategy.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Did You Know Juice=Juice Has Released the Fewest New Songs of Any Hello! Project Group Since 2022?“
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