Does Weight Training Actually Protect You? 5ch: “In the End It’s All Show…”

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The story

A thread on 5ch’s Newsokuvip board kicked off with the question, “Does weight training actually help you defend yourself?” Posters with martial arts experience chimed in with comments like “I box and weigh 100kg, so I’ve never lost a fight,” and pointed out that “martial arts training beats weightlifting when it comes to real strength.” From there the discussion branched out into anxieties about “yami baito” (illicit gig-work) burglars targeting people’s homes, and crime-prevention tips like leaving the lights on at the entrance and in rooms overnight. Opinions in the thread split over whether muscle serves mainly as a visual deterrent or is actually useful in a real confrontation.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:32
(っ´ω`c) Maybe just a little better than doing nothing?
7AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:37
(´・ω・`) Poop!
9AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:38
Re: #7
(っ´ω`c) So compared to martial arts, weight training is crap?
10AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:40
Re: #9
(´・ω・`) Sorry, that was just my signature noise slipping out
11AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:40
(´・ω・`) Not feeling great today
15AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:41
Re: #11
(っ´ω`c) Are you okay? You should get some rest
12AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:40
(´・ω・`) So you've finally resolved to become a professional "home security guard" (slang for a NEET who never leaves the house)
16AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:42
Re: #12
(っ´ω`c) Apparently there's been a suspicious car driving around the neighborhood. It's scary.
13AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:40
Looking strong does work as a deterrent
People don't road-rage at guys who look tough, either
17AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:42
Re: #13
(っ´ω`c) But would it actually help if you got attacked for real?
14AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:40
I used to box and I'm 100kg, so I've never lost a fight
18AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:42
Re: #14
(っ´ω`c) Yeah, martial arts really does beat just lifting weights. Fair enough.
19AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:43
(´・ω・`) Guess there's nothing for it but mail-order karate lessons then (an old joke about magazine ads for "learn karate by mail")
21AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:44
Re: #19
(っ´ω`c) Too late for that now!
20AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:43
Wait, Pomi-kun, you're gonna take on a car with just your muscles?!
22AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:44
Re: #20
(っ´ω`c) No, no — it's just that it might be one of those "yami baito" burglary gigs
23AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:44
Re: #17
Just working out isn't gonna cut it 😣
28AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:46
Re: #23
(っ´ω`c) …A weapon, huh. Maybe I should carry one.
27AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:45
So Pomi-kun's place is fancy enough that yami baito crooks would break in!
Guess you're loaded after all
30AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:47
Re: #27
(っ´ω`c) No, no, it's just a possibility — you never know which house they'll target
33AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:48
Every time I watch the news, the people who get scammed are always rich
They're into crypto and investing and stuff, yet they still fall for it
35AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:51
Re: #33
(っ´ω`c) Seriously, how do these old folks have that much money?
34AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:48
Pomi-kun arming himself — his mom's probably shaking in fear
37AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:52
Re: #34
(っ´ω`c) This honestly isn't a laughing matter
46AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:58
Just leave the entrance light on all night
48AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:59
Re: #46
(っ´ω`c) Guess I'll leave the room light on all night too
49AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:59
Doesn't matter if it's day or night, does it
They're "invincible people" after all (slang for those with nothing left to lose)
52AnonymousSep 14, 2026 16:01
Re: #49
(っ´ω`c) I looked into the news and apparently they show up in the early evening too, not just at night
50AnonymousSep 14, 2026 15:59
Crush a wall with your bare hands like Jones — that'd be pretty intimidating
53AnonymousSep 14, 2026 16:01
Re: #50
(っ´ω`c) You mean quaking in my boots? ("hatahata" — trembling)
56AnonymousSep 14, 2026 16:02
(っ´ω`c) In the end, weight training really is all show…
115AnonymousSep 14, 2026 17:11
Re: #56
(ꐦ·᷅ὢ·᷄ꐦ ) But that doesn't mean it's useless
116AnonymousSep 14, 2026 17:13
There's even a slang term for it — kids chasing that quick dopamine hit — so I guess they just assume they can easily score a huge payout
118AnonymousSep 14, 2026 17:15
Re: #116
Even if you only get paid 50,000 or 100,000 yen, you're looking at over a decade in prison
119AnonymousSep 14, 2026 17:19
Re: #116
(っ´ω`c) You idiots!
148AnonymousSep 14, 2026 18:55
(´@ᾥ@`) It does help — weight training is a fight, it builds confidence,
(´@ᾥ@`) You're always fighting; even while lifting you're picturing combat,
(´@ᾥ@`) Some people get overconfident, but anyone seriously into lifting keeps building meticulous plans,
(´@ᾥ@`) That gives your life structure and keeps your mind constantly engaged,
(´@ᾥ@`) That mindset keeps you imagining different scenarios and thinking through conflict,
(´@ᾥ@`) And that becomes self-defense — the muscle itself becomes a means of protecting yourself
153AnonymousSep 14, 2026 18:58
Re: #148
(っ´ω`c) So weight training really is a fight
155AnonymousSep 14, 2026 19:02
Re: #153
(´@ᾥ@`) That's right, you're always fighting — you should start fighting too, right now
156AnonymousSep 14, 2026 19:03
Re: #153
(´@ᾥ@`) To put it plainly, once you commit, three months is enough to transform a body that's been out of shape for 10 or 20 years
(´@ᾥ@`) Think of it like being stranded and forced into survival mode with no food or water

Background and Key Points of the Discussion

The thread grew out of a wave of news reports about “yami baito” (illicit gig-work) burglars targeting private homes, which has led more people to think about weight training and self-defense as ways to protect themselves. The discussion split between those who argued that muscle is only a visual deterrent and falls short of real martial-arts skill in an actual fight, and those who argued that serious lifters develop a different mindset and sense of planning that itself functions as self-defense. On the subject of yami baito, some pointed out the harsh mismatch between a payout of just tens of thousands of yen and a prison sentence of over a decade, reigniting discussion of how badly the young people who take these jobs come out on the losing end. It’s worth noting that the “self-defense” discussed here isn’t about the legal right to self-defense, but is used more loosely to mean everyday crime-prevention awareness.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsokuvip) thread “(っ´ω`c) Does Weight Training Count as Self-Defense?

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