Nikkei Falls Again, Drops Below ¥64,000 — 5ch: “Brokerages Need Layoffs Too”

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Tokyo stocks opened lower for a second straight day on the 14th, with the Nikkei average starting at ¥63,659.53, down ¥351.81 from the previous week’s close. The decline briefly topped ¥600, pushing the index below the psychologically important ¥64,000 mark. Selling was led by AI- and semiconductor-related names such as SoftBank Group and Advantest after news broke that U.S.-based OpenAI would postpone its IPO until next year, while rising oil futures — driven by expectations of prolonged tension in the Middle East — also weighed on investor sentiment. Opinions on the thread were split between those calling it “an AI bubble correction” and those insisting “growth is still underway,” with the discussion spreading to household self-defense topics like rising interest rates, heavier mortgage burdens, and rethinking term deposits and government bonds.

Tokyo stocks opened lower for a second consecutive day on the 14th. The opening price was ¥63,659.53, down ¥351.81 from the previous week’s close. The decline topped ¥600 at one point, falling below the key ¥64,000 level. News that U.S.-based OpenAI would postpone its initial public offering (IPO) until next year triggered early selling in AI- and semiconductor-related shares, including SoftBank Group (SBG) and Advantest. U.S. crude oil futures rose during Japan trading hours on the 14th on expectations that tensions in the Middle East will persist, adding further pressure to investor sentiment.

[Nikkei QUICK News (NQN)]

Nikkei, September 14, 2026, 9:12 AM

Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

What people said

8AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:23
Hey, come on, NTT shouldn't be rising in a situation like this.
It should be dropping into the ¥140 range — now I can't buy in!
22AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:28
Re: #8
Maybe money's fleeing shaky, bubble-inflated semiconductor stocks for lower-risk plays.
I think financials are trash, but when my own holdings go up I can't help feeling a little happy.
I'm only human.
25AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:28
Last Friday's rally was just a 9/11-date thing anyway.
Rate hikes are fundamentally bearish for stocks,
so yeah, it'll probably fall.
38AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:32
Re: #25
Well, if rate hikes are a sure thing, stocks will fall —
textbook stuff.
It only went up in the first place because of zero-rate policy.
27AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:29
Everything AI-related is way too bubbly — a soft landing would be for the best.
52AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:38
Re: #27
No way AI stocks stall out here — this is supposedly tech advanced enough to wipe out humanity within 10 years. It's still just getting started.
31AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:30
My apartment loan's 10-year fixed rate just got reset from 0.85% to 3.2% a year.
I'm cashing in gains and putting them toward repayment.
Most people bought in when the Nikkei was under ¥40,000, so if rising rates are pushing people to lock in profits, it stands to reason the index could fall back below ¥40,000 too.
41AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:33
Re: #31
Barely anyone's actually doing real estate investment, come on.
35AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:32
For now I think we should be talking about TOPIX instead of the Nikkei.
45AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:36
Re: #35
TOPIX's peak was 4,197 on August 14th.

Now it's 4,036.

That's nowhere near a high, lolololol.
133AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:08
Re: #35
Hasn't that been true for a while now?
Even the rally was abnormal — it tracked the KOSPI more than the Dow, honestly.
40AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:33
This is gonna keep sliding all the way down to 30,000 at this rate…
44AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:34
Re: #40
Well, it only went up because of zero-rate policy, so yeah, it'll probably fall back into the ¥30,000 range.
46AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:36
Re: #41
Once people make money on capital gains, they start craving income gains.
Converting stock profits into real estate — BNF did the same thing, right? (BNF: a famous Japanese individual day trader)
55AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:40
Re: #46
Real estate is sitting at insanely inflated prices — anyone buying into that is a fool.
Bonds are the obvious choice.
Why would anyone take on debt to buy real estate yielding 3% when government-backed bonds pay 5%?
47AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:37
Forget semiconductors — an oil shock and a bond shock are hitting at the same time here.
Anyone staying calm about that is a serious fool.
56AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:40
Re: #47
Seriously, this kind of thing almost never happens.
The real question is what happens if an AI bubble collapse gets piled on top of it.
80AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:46
Re: #47
Predictions that the Middle East crisis would seriously hurt the real economy have basically turned into "the boy who cried wolf" at this point.
51AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:38
Brokerages need more layoffs.
Yeah, about half the current headcount would be plenty.

And if the people getting laid off are so confident stocks are strong, they can take their boosted voluntary-retirement severance package and go trade the market themselves, lol, since they talk such a big game.
61AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:41
Re: #51
Those guys never win, lol.
Same with bank employees —
most of them aren't even necessary, and they'd lose too.
65AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:42
I don't hold any AI stocks, so my portfolio's actually up.
67AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:42
Re: #65
I'll diagnose your holdings — just give me the actual names. Which stocks?
75AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:44
A crash is a buying opportunity.
81AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:46
Re: #75
Only once it's clearly turned from a crash back into an uptrend.
Trying to buy at the exact bottom for maximum profit during a crash is way too hard for amateurs.
107AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:55
Re: #81
If it's not individual stocks but index funds or ETFs tracking a major index, buying in a planned, disciplined way during a crash is a valid strategy.

Just make sure to size positions heavier toward the bottom, assuming the maximum possible drawdown.
Emotional averaging-down is the first step toward ruin, so don't do that.
84AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:47
Hurry up and drop to 40,000 already.
And USD/JPY down to around ¥125.
88AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:48
Re: #84
If stocks fall, the yen will just weaken even faster, you know.
87AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:48
Sanae [nickname for PM Takaichi Sanae] just got lucky that the AI/semiconductor bubble happened to overlap with her time in office.
There's no real reason stocks would rise because of her.
111AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:57
It's still over 60,000, remember.
Back under the DPJ government it was 8,000.
113AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:57
Re: #111
Though GDP in dollar terms and real wages are both negative, lol.
114AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:57
Re: #111
They used to run "strong-yen dividend" sales back then — life was so much easier.
Those were the days when things actually worked for ordinary people.
118AnonymousSep 14, 2026 09:59
I've been saying this consistently:
term deposits are the true winner.

Stocks, or anything else — this isn't a market that just keeps going up forever, so no.

Ordinary people are better off just diligently saving.

Leave the high-stakes gambling den of the markets to the likes of us.
169AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:21
Re: #118
Japanese government bonds are a good pick too.
230AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:43
Re: #118
If you're fine with term-deposit-level rates, you'd just buy government bonds instead, wouldn't you.
124AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:01
NISA investors are screaming in agony. (NISA: Japan's tax-free retail investment account)
134AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:08
Even if investment in next-gen small modular nuclear reactors speeds up, it's still going to take a while.
Securing power supply is urgent, but even after a change of "boss" (nickname for a political leader), it'll remain national policy — though none of that matters if the funding doesn't actually flow into capital investment, lol.
140AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:11
Re: #134
For some reason they'll build it in America with Japanese money though.
And the profits will flow to America too.
165AnonymousSep 14, 2026 10:20
When semiconductors drop, they all drop together, lol.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

The Nikkei has been trading in the ¥64,000 range since entering September, with inflows into AI and semiconductor stocks partly driving that climb. The key point about this drop is that it was triggered by a single piece of news — OpenAI’s delayed IPO — rather than any confirmed pessimism about AI investment overall. That’s exactly where opinions on the thread split, with posts calling it “the start of a bubble collapse” sitting alongside posts arguing it’s “just a correction, and growth will continue.” The discussion also touched on how U.S. interest-rate moves ripple into Japanese stocks, and on real voices from people whose mortgage variable rates have actually started climbing — making this a discussion that ties stock prices to household finances, not just the market. Exchanges about domestic politics that weren’t part of the original article were excluded, but it’s worth keeping in mind that the market’s actual moves from here will depend on future U.S. rate decisions and developments in the Middle East.

※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Stock Prices] Nikkei Opens Lower Again, AI/Semiconductor Sell-off, Falls Below ¥64,000.”

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