Nippon-Ham’s Defense Falls Apart in CS Final — Fans Question Shinjo’s Managing

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The story

A thread went up on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (live sports-chat board) about the Climax Series Final Stage game between the Nippon-Ham Fighters and the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks. A string of throwing errors and other defensive miscues during the game set off harsh reactions in the thread, with posters firing off lines like “this is sandlot ball.” Comments split between frustration with manager Tsuyoshi Shinjo’s fielding assignments and sympathy for players stuck playing out of position, while the thread also got lively arguing over how the Climax Series’ “advantage” win-count rule actually works.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:35
Can't be helped, I guess
4AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:36
What was that garbage throw?
This is exactly why they're weak.
6AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:36
Yeah yeah, another self-destruct into a come-from-behind loss today.
How many times are they gonna repeat this?
9AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:36
Giving up a run in that spot, fine, I get it — but not getting the out is the real problem.
10AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:36
That throw was pure despair.
Looks like sandlot ball out there.
11AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:36
This is exactly why throwing guys into unfamiliar positions on short notice is so scary.
18AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:38
Re: #11
Shinjo said "leave defense to me" back in his first year, but ever since they brought in reinforcements he's been way too careless about fielding.
14AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:37
Could that last hit have turned into a double play if they'd played it right?
21AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:38
Re: #14
That was batter Yanagimachi, right?
Probably a tough play either way.
15AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:37
Did he really need to wind up and sling it that hard, given the timing?
19AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:38
Beat the Hawks, Fighters!
Beat the Hawks, Fighters!
Beat the Hawks, Fighters!
51AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:41
Re: #19
Serves you right — Fooo!
Serves you right — Fooo!
20AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:38
Just forfeit the game already, head back to Kamagaya (Nippon-Ham's farm-team facility), and practice until next season.
At this rate they'll never beat the "Toilet Bowls" (5ch's crude old nickname for SoftBank) no matter how many games they play.
27AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:39
Even if he's a two-way player, putting a pitcher at first base is just asking for a mistake.
Honestly can't blame him for that one.
35AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:40
Re: #27
That's exactly why 99% of online opinion is ripping into Shinjo.
50AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:41
Do we even need to keep playing this?
It's pointless — just let SoftBank go straight to the Japan Series.
61AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Re: #50
Toilet Bowl: "What about our ticket revenue?"
73AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:43
Re: #61
Masayoshi Son: "I've got more money than I know what to do with."
76AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:43
Re: #61
If they try too hard it'll all be over in just 3 games.
52AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:41
There's no way he's throwing that runner out lol
55AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Wait, not to be rude, but how did this team even finish 3rd?
62AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Re: #55
Because Orix, Lotte, and Rakuten were all weak.
63AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Re: #55
Farming weaklings.
Straight-up farming weaklings.
56AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Why didn't Seibu make it through instead?
65AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:42
Re: #52
Hint: runner on third, Yamakawa.
70AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:43
Wait, Gunji plays left field too now?
77AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:43
Re: #70
Kind of feel bad for him getting shuffled all over the field.
Nomura's even playing center today.
83AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:44
Now that I think about it, Gunji's natural position is catcher too, right?
What is going on with this team's fielding assignments?
Even Power Pro (the baseball video game) wouldn't let you get away with this.
93AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:45
Re: #83
Classic first-year Eikan Nine moves (the high-school team-building mode in Power Pro).
89AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:44
How's the earned run from this inning going to get scored against Fukuya Yamazaki?
90AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:45
Re: #89
According to Sports Navi it's 1.
94AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:45
Is the advantage 2 wins, or what?
So if Nippon-Ham loses today, that means they'd need 4 straight wins just to survive?
98AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:46
Re: #94
Both teams need 5 wins total.
The Toilet Bowls already start with 2 in the bank.
103AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:47
Re: #94
With a 2-win advantage, it switches to a first-to-5 format.
95AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:45
Kondo, just hit a 3-run homer already.
Embarrass them so bad Shinjo wants to quit on his own.
100AnonymousOct 14, 2026 19:46
Re: #95
Does that guy even have a sense of shame?
He seems like he's got sky-high pride though.

Background and Key Points of This Topic

This thread centers on a game from the Pro Baseball Climax Series (CS) Final Stage, a format in which the higher-ranked team from the regular season is awarded a head-start “advantage” win (or wins) before the series even begins. Posters in the thread toss around figures like “2-win advantage” and “first-to-5,” but the exact win conditions can vary season to season, so none of this should be taken as definitive based on the thread’s comments alone. Opinion split over whether to chalk the sloppy defense up to individual players’ errors or to manager Shinjo’s fielding decisions — such as playing a pitcher at first base and shuffling players into unfamiliar positions — with critics of his managing on one side and those arguing “it couldn’t be helped in that spot” on the other. Note that “Toilet Bowl” (便器) is a long-standing, crude 5ch nickname for SoftBank used on baseball threads, not a term coined for this particular game.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Nandemo Jikkyo G”) thread “[Bad News] Nippon-Ham Suddenly Can’t Stop Making Errors“.

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