Kaori Manabe Floats a ‘Self-Checkout Psychology’ Theory on Suspect Sugiyama’s Shoplifting — 5ch: ‘Guess You Really Do Get Caught for Cheating’

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The story

Yuji Sugiyama of the comedy trio “Waga Ya” was referred to prosecutors on suspicion of theft after allegedly shoplifting groceries from a supermarket in Meguro Ward, Tokyo. Reacting to the news on Fuji TV’s “Toretate!” on the 14th, Kaori Manabe brought up the psychology of self-checkout — suggesting some people might think, “maybe I’ll just slip it into the already-paid bag” when a barcode won’t scan — and remarked, “It is shoplifting, but psychologically it might feel like a notch lower.” On 5ch, a wave of pushback followed, with posts like “that thought would never even cross my mind,” and the discussion expanded into the broader reality of shoplifting prevention, touching on self-checkout surveillance and how overseas customers handle payment.

Kaori Manabe shares her take on self-checkout amid “theft allegation” against Waga Ya’s Yuji Sugiyama: “It’s shoplifting, but…” “Psychologically…”

TV personality Kaori Manabe appeared on “Toretate!” (weekdays, 1:50 PM), the Fuji TV network’s live information program produced by Osaka’s Kantele, broadcast on the 14th.

She commented on the news that the Metropolitan Police Department had referred Yuji Sugiyama of comedy trio “Waga Ya” to prosecutors on the 14th on suspicion of theft, over allegedly shoplifting groceries from a supermarket in Meguro Ward, Tokyo.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

4AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:44
I don't understand a single word of what she's saying
5AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:45
Stealing a watch is way harder to pull off, though
6AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:46
Come to think of it, this girl's a die-hard fan of "Tokedoro" (5ch nickname, literally "watch thief," referencing a past scandal figure)
7AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:46
Same as those unmanned gyoza stalls
They just create criminals
12AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:49
Seriously? Wrong is wrong, no excuses
13AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:51
Oh look, she's covering for him
She's done
14AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:52
Celebrities just say whatever
In reality, most people pay properly — for store operators, it's basically a way to see how honest customers are. That's exactly why they can keep running it as a kind of community service
15AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:52
Uh, no I wouldn't?
Do all you celebrities think like criminals?
16AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:53
I'm honestly impressed anyone tries it with how heavily they're monitored
I use self-checkout a lot, and I'm desperate not to make any move that looks suspicious
20AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:55
Re: #1
It never even occurred to me to just bag it without scanning just because it won't beep
That mindset is seriously messed up, that's criminal-in-training territory
21AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:55
Guess you really do get caught for cheating at self-checkout
Good to know
Was he caught in the act, or did they nab him on a later visit?
31AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:59
Re: #21
Sounds like they checked the footage right away, so maybe they're cross-referencing people's movements with register scans in real time
They could well be using AI for video-linked monitoring and alerts these days
22AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:56
If you're gonna shoplift, you don't even need to carry it to the register in the first place
26AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:57
When you think about it, isn't it scary that forgetting to scan one or two items by accident could get you arrested?
40AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:02
Re: #26
At the store I go to, the self-checkout always announces the price when you scan a barcode, so I don't think you'd really forget
Though scanning the same item twice by mistake happens a lot
27AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:57
If you so much as shift your bag a little, it flashes "please wait for staff" and I panic
28AnonymousOct 15, 2026 00:58
Maybe check your own show's sponsors before saying that
48AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:08
When self-checkout first rolled out at Aeon, for the tempura buffet there was no button for the big chicken tempura (150 yen) — the one item priced differently — and when I asked staff, they just told me to hit "tempura buffet, 78 yen"
They didn't add the item for about a year after that, so it was a nice little loophole to get cheap chicken tempura
58AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:15
Re: #48
Doing nothing about it for a whole year — what a bunch of useless staff
74AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:27
Sounds like the kind of thing an impatient efficiency-obsessed guy ("taipa," slang for time-performance types) would pull
And the excuse would definitely be "the machine's fault, blah blah"
79AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:39
Re: #74
If it's Re: #8, that's less "impatient" and more sociopath
And honestly, just entertaining the thought that "yeah, people like that exist" feels completely unnecessary…
90AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:47
The staff who watch self-checkout to prevent shoplifting really come off as unpleasant
I get it, it's because shoplifters exist, but it feels like I'm being suspected and I hate it
When there's a regular staffed register available, I always use that instead
94AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:50
Re: #90
Just standing there watching really is unpleasant. Makes me want to say "help me out instead"
92AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:48
For the supermarket, I go to stores without self-checkout
Though for places like Daiso where you only buy a few items, self-checkout is fine
96AnonymousOct 15, 2026 01:54
Re: #92
Full self-checkout is a pain when you're buying a lot of items
So when I have a lot: semi-self-checkout (staff scans, I pay)
When I have just a little: full self-checkout
I switch between the two depending

Background and Key Points of This Debate

“Scan-skipping” at self-checkout has long been considered one of the retail industry’s main shoplifting methods, which is part of why fraud-detection systems linking security cameras with POS data have increasingly been adopted. Suspect Sugiyama has only been referred to prosecutors on paper so far — whether he is actually indicted depends on prosecutors’ future judgment, and the allegation itself doesn’t mean guilt. Where opinions split in the thread was over how to take Manabe’s comment that shoplifting is “psychologically a notch lower” — reactions of “that thought would never even cross my mind” far outnumbered any sympathetic responses. As of this writing, neither Sugiyama himself nor his agency has issued any statement.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuhou+) thread “[Entertainment] Kaori Manabe shares her take on self-checkout amid Waga Ya’s Yuji Sugiyama’s theft allegation: “It’s shoplifting, but psychologically it might feel like a notch lower, I think”“.

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