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Mystery novelist Tetsuya Ichikawa posted on X (formerly Twitter) that he prefers BEYOOOOONDS’ old “tonchiki” vibe (their comedic, skit-heavy style) from the “Gekikara LOVE” era, hinting at his unease with the group’s recent shift toward a “tsuyo-tsuyo” (powerhouse) image. In response, the Hello! Project board on 5ch split over how to judge BEYOOOOONDS’ transformation from a comedy-driven act into a group that foregrounds intricate choreography and vocal skill. Some welcomed it as natural growth, while others mourned the loss of the group’s signature quirkiness, and the discussion expanded into comparisons with other groups like ANGERME and Rosy Chronicle, as well as broader complaints about the homogenization of Hello! Project songs overall.
What people said
@gaisei_ichi
When it comes to songs, I 【【prefer】】 the BEYOOOOONDS vibe from around 'Gekikara LOVE,' so about the recent tsuyo-tsuyo (powerhouse) BEYOOOOONDS,
I want to mend Miimi's plushie after it's been torn to shreds
Without real skill, goofy comedy just doesn't land properly
He already did say that
So BEYOOOOONDS turned out to be Berryz Koubou's successor after all
New Hello! Project fans (mostly female fans) only want tsuyo-tsuyo (powerhouse) acts
Rosy: the tsuyo-tsuyo songs get more views than the fun-looking ones
Other groups show a similar pattern
Isn't 'Gao Gao Gao' Rosy's strongest song?
#1 Loved Route: A or B?
#2 The Tearful Heroine's Dismissal Drama
#3 Pure-Hearted Evidence
#4 Just Like This!
#5 I Just Want a Hug
#6 What's Wrong With Loving You?!
#7 You Show Up
#8 Love Destiny – I Want to Discuss My True Feelings –
#9 Go Go Everyday
#10 The Mermaid Who Can't Swim
#11 This Isn't How It Was Supposed to Be!
#12 Junk DIAMOND
#13 SHAKA SHAKA TO LOVE
#14 True Dream (Masa Yume)
#15 Promise, Contact, Anniversary
#16 DOWN TOWN
#17 Let's Make It Clear
#18 Mistake
#19 Extra Spicy LOVE
#20 TIME IS MONEY!
#21 I Can't Try My Best (※)
#22 Hey! Unfair Baby
#23 The Way Home Thinking of You
#24 Now Now Ningen (Now Now Human)
#25 Nothing Left But to Believe!
#26 Bad Person
#27 Crybaby My Dream
#28 Filament of the Future
#29 Extra
#30 Yokohama Station West Exit, Two Years Ago
Can't believe 'The Tearful Heroine's Dismissal Drama' isn't #1
Surprised by where the Juice=Juice songs land on this list
I think what bothers people is the idea that it'll be nothing but that from now on
It'd be better if they just did their own thing and happened to pick up female fans along the way
It's less about appealing to women and more that the members, who used to be like puppets, have developed a sense of self
but then the agency goes and makes their debut song 'Hey, Welcome!' lol
That's pretty much already confirmed
True for the people who go to shows, but the ones racking up streams just aren't interested
and everyone else gets Juice=Juice-sama's rejects
Only Morning Musume still gets Tsunku songs
They used to have songs where the singing itself stood out
A song with no chorus? Details please (kwsk = net slang for 'tell me more')
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Within Hello! Project, BEYOOOOONDS has been known for a comedic, skit-heavy performance style fans call “tonchiki,” and “Gekikara LOVE” is cited as a defining song of that era. In recent years, however, songs in the vein of “Tensei” and “Rosy Chronicle” — which foreground intricate choreography and vocal ability — have increased, and the thread sees this as the group shifting toward a “tsuyo-tsuyo” (powerhouse) image. Opinion splits on whether to view this change as natural growth or as the abandonment of the tonchiki identity that made the group distinctive. Some in the thread view it as a deliberate move to broaden the group’s female fan base, while others point to a broader homogenization of Hello! Project songwriting, with Juice=Juice reportedly getting first pick of material — a complaint that extends beyond this one group to Hello! Project’s songwriting policy as a whole. The thread cites the rankings from the 2021 Hello! Project Song Awards, though it’s worth noting that reflects a popularity poll from that year, not a current assessment.</parameter>
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*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Mystery novelist Tetsuya Ichikawa: “When it comes to songs, I 【【prefer】】 the BEYOOOOONDS vibe from around ‘Gekikara LOVE,’ so about the recent tsuyo-tsuyo BEYOOOOONDS,”.”
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