Full-season standings or recent form? 5ch: ‘Handing the Japan Series spot to a team that’s only 2 games over .500 seems wrong’

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The story

Debate broke out on 5ch’s general sports board (Nanademo Jikkyou G) over Nippon Professional Baseball’s Climax Series (CS) qualification and which teams are actually built for short playoff series. It started with the view that “it’s strange to hand out an advantage based purely on full-season standings” — one camp argued that by recent win percentage, Yokohama (DeNA) would actually be sitting in first place, while another countered that full-season results are the only fair measure. The thread also dug into the Yomiuri Giants’ weakness in short series and their long slump, plus their head-to-head record against SoftBank in interleague play, with plenty of analysis grounded in each team’s circumstances.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:31
Tremble in your sleep, SoftBank Hawks (a classic taunt line borrowed from Fist of the North Star)
5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:34
At the end of the day, whoever catches fire in autumn wins
Going by win percentage since September, Yokohama would be in first
Can't hand the Japan Series spot to a team sitting 1st or 2nd purely on wins banked up in spring and summer
7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:35
Re: #5
Giving the Japan Series spot to a team that's only 2 games over .500 seems questionable too
20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:39
Re: #5
By record since July, Yokohama's actually in first
8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:36
2025 CS Final Stage
Hanshin ☆○○○
Yokohama ●●●

That said, they got swept straight out last year
18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:39
Re: #8
It's just wrong that reaching the CS Final feels routine for a team that finished 3rd…
19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:39
Mind you, since then they're apparently 1-5 against SoftBank in interleague play
28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:42
Re: #19
Those were just bait games (early-season games sacrificed as "chum," not meant to be taken seriously)
34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:43
Watarai's quietly leveled up
And two years ago he wasn't even in the active roster
35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:44
Re: #34
Wasn't he injured back then?
42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:45
Re: #34
Two years ago was his rookie season fresh out of high school, so of course he's grown since
44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:46
More to the point, the Giants are just too weak in short series
Aren't they close to the worst team at it?
48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:47
Re: #44
Yeah, they can't win when it matters most — that's also why they missed the pennant
50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:47
So in the end, short series come down to hitting power
Is that the takeaway?
52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:48
Re: #50
They got blown out last year though, so it's pitching, right?
57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:49
The Giants have really gotten weak, huh
They can't keep acting like the lords of the league anymore
61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:50
Re: #57
They're just an average team now
No star players, nothing flashy about them
66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:52
Re: #57
Their parent company's in a declining industry
Their player development is nonexistent
All they do is collect other teams' aging veterans
The only "league leader" thing left is being based in Tokyo
65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:51
14 years without a Japan Series title — isn't that a first in franchise history?
They used to win it about once every three years back in the day
69AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:52
Re: #65
The era of buying your way to wins is over
Now that they can't win a money fight against MLB, it's an era of developing your own talent
71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:54
Re: #65
No more reverse-designation picks (the old draft system letting top prospects choose their team), no poaching foreign stars anymore, and no big names coming through free agency either
74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 16:54
Vs. Hanshin
12 wins, 13 losses, 98 runs scored, 99 runs allowed

At Koshien
5 wins, 5 losses

That's genuinely even
97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:02
Re: #74
One of those wins was an extra-innings 1-run squeaker against a hungover Hanshin the day after they'd clinched the pennant
So really it should've been 14 wins, 11 losses
93AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:00
Honestly, why was Yokohama flying so low through summer in the first place?
95AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:01
Re: #93
Probably just hadn't built up enough data on them yet
By season's end they're scouted so thoroughly that teams run player-specific shifts against them
110AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:03
Re: #93
They spend the first half collecting data then hit the gas in the second half — same every year
122AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:07
But honestly, for the Yomiuri Giants (mocking slang: "Yomi-Jai"), this was a pure-profit Climax Series — they raked in Dome ticket sales and didn't even have to travel to Koshien
126AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:08
Re: #122
Feels like Maru personally didn't profit at all though (wordplay on "maru-moke," meaning pure profit, and the player's name Maru)
128AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:08
Re: #122
Well, for the 2nd-place team, giving it your all at home and still losing is actually the most profitable outcome
So they probably wanted at least one win
127AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:08
https://imgur.com/qtpHlfi.jpeg
What even was that at the end
133AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:09
Re: #127
This isn't a ceremonial first pitch, come on 😅
134AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:09
Re: #127
Richard just drew a massive dud on the lottery, that's all
143AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:13
Re: #127
Even the battery exchanging signs looked like they sensed something was off
131AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:09
But was it really okay for Tobashira to get the "hero of the game" interview for this?
138AnonymousOct 11, 2026 17:10
Re: #131
Yeah, nobody expected him to be the pick for "hero of the game"

Background and key arguments in this debate

The Climax Series (CS) is a format introduced in 2007 that grants the league’s first-place team a one-win head start at the opening of the Final Stage. It’s meant to reward performance across the full season, but in the thread, the view that recent win percentage better reflects true current strength clashed with the view that rankings should be decided by full-season totals. Both sides have some logic to them, and since the debate ties into broader opinions for or against the CS system itself, no clear consensus emerged. The comments about the Giants’ long slump were likewise just thread opinion — several posters pointed to limits in the team’s player development and its free-agency and foreign-player acquisitions — but it’s worth noting these are 5ch commentary, not an official analysis.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyou G) thread “DeNA BayStars, Demons of the Short Series — The Japan Series Is Inevitable!“

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