5ch Divided Over ‘Action Game Tier List’ — Sekiro, DMC5 Rank Near the Top

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A user on 5ch’s Hardware & Industry (Geha) board posted a self-made “action game tier list,” and the thread erupted into a mix of praise and criticism. While titles like Sekiro, Devil May Cry 5, and Ninja Gaiden 4 landed near the top, many posters argued the list was “skewed” since it left out Nintendo-style and 2D action titles such as Mario and Astro Bot. Others claimed the combat in Devil May Cry 5 and Bayonetta is “just one-sided attacking,” broadening the debate into a bigger argument over what should even count as a good action game in the first place.

What people said

1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:17
So, what do you guys think?
6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:20
What an old-school action game. Total Platinum Games fanboy, chee-gyu energy (slang for a dorky loner stereotype).
9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:21
Re: #6
But is there any action game better than this?
11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:22
Re: #6
Re: #7
Replying to himself
15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:24
Must be an FF16 fanboy
Sneaky, tucking it away somewhere nobody'd notice
17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:25
Re: #15
As an action game it's pretty solid! The story's garbage though
16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:24
Re: #9
Sekiro is the best action game out there right now
19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:25
Re: #16
Nah, nothing beats Ninja Gaiden 4 and DMC5
20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:27
This is a pretty biased action game list
No Astro Bot or Mario
No 2D action games either
30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:30
Re: #20
Should we just toss Mario in there too? lol
25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:29
Re: #1
A trash ranking that's blatantly just one guy's personal taste — not even worth looking at lol
26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:30
I don't get what's supposed to be fun about Bayonetta or DMC's combat
27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:30
Re: #26
Are you a From Software fanboy or something?
32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:31
DMC boss fights are just you relentlessly attacking one-sidedly
43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:35
Re: #32
Well yeah, obviously
DMC is a game about forcing your own combos onto the enemy
45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:37
Re: #43
That's NES-era game design right there
48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:38
Who the hell is 'Kizunaryuutsuu'?! (a forum poster's handle)
34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:32
Is YOSHIDA16's action gameplay really that amazing?
58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:40
Re: #34
http://imgur.com/I10HxiG.gif
35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:32
Funny how the guy who said it's a weekday and he's at work right now has already posted 11 replies
42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:35
Re: #35
Who are we even talking about here
38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:33
From Software games generally have bad basic action feel — or rather, bad responsiveness.
It really is true that SEKIRO is the only one that plays like a proper action game. The Souls series leans heavily RPG.
44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:36
Re: #38
Well, this is purely a rating of the action
Overall, something like Elden Ring would rank way higher
50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:39
Let's all play more action games across different genres
52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:39
Re: #50
Please recommend me some other action games!!
54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:40
Bloodborne is S-tier, 'Trash Ring' (a mocking nickname for Elden Ring) is F-tier
Don't care about the rest
63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:41
Re: #54
No way Bloodborne is S-tier
57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:40
Do you mean difficulty as an action game?
Or do you mean how fun it is?
61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:41
Re: #57
How fun the action is!
59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:41
Re: #55
No, it's you
I looked up 'Kizunaryuutsuu' and turns out he's some guy who gets clowned on over at Geha
69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:43
Re: #59
There's literally only you
What a liar lol
64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:42
Phantom Blade Zero comes out at the end of the month, looking forward to that one too
67AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:43
Re: #64
They said PBZ isn't a Soulslike, so I'm hyped 🥺︎
66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:42
The fact that someone made a questionable hiring call and failed to recognize From Software's talent is still having repercussions today
Curious how Dusk factors into this
71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:43
Re: #66
I want From Software to make a pure action game too
68AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:43
For someone who talks like a hardcore player, your range of action games is pretty narrow
74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 11:46
Re: #68
Can't help it, platformer action games are boring — they're basically fossils anyway
98AnonymousOct 10, 2026 12:19
Somebody else's tier list
Guess putting FF16 and Ninja Gaiden at the top is supposed to make you look like a connoisseur or something


Background and Key Points of This Debate

On 5ch’s Hardware & Industry (Geha) board, user-made game “tier lists” get posted fairly regularly, and arguments over biased selection criteria have become a running theme. This time, because the list was limited to action games specifically, opinions split over whether a high-difficulty one-on-one action game like Sekiro can even be judged on the same scale as combo-driven, spectacle-focused action games like Devil May Cry 5 and Bayonetta. Some also pointed out that excluding 2D/platformer action titles like Mario and Astro Bot suggests the criteria lean specifically toward “hardcore 3D action.” Since fan-made rankings like this tend to reflect the creator’s personal taste, they’re worth reading with the understanding that they aren’t an objective measure.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry [Geha]) thread “Action Game Hardcore Fans Have Decided the Definitive Action Game Tier List!!.”

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