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The story
It’s come to light that Angerme, an idol group under Hello! Project, will perform at Pia Arena MM, the live-music-dedicated arena in Ariake, Tokyo — and the news set off a buzz on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. In the thread, users compared the announcement to fellow Hello! Project act Juice=Juice’s past shows at the same venue and at Nippon Budokan, sparking debate over capacity and venue prestige. Figures suggesting a fully-seated capacity of around 10,000 were floated, with comparisons to Budokan becoming the main focus of the discussion.
What people said
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That was just something staff made up to talk the members into it.
Angerme had this scheduled first anyway lol
Yeah, they sure did.
Wasn't 'Panda' wanting to play Pia Arena too? (fan nickname for a member/group)
If you're gonna compete, do a 2-day run lol
Her graduation isn't until next spring, so that has nothing to do with it.
At the very least, the baseline should be selling out without needing a fan-club second round of tickets.
Antis kept insisting Juice only pulled 3,500 at Pia Arena, so I'm curious what number Angerme will draw. By that same logic, they'd probably come in under 1,000 lol
24-Hour TV switched to holding it at the Kokugikan (Sumo Hall) now.
It's not that they can't use it, it's that they choose not to — apparently the backstage area is too cramped for production needs.
As for Juice=Juice, they also sold out first-round tickets for both Budokan and Pia Arena in the fall amid a wave of lottery losses, so the excuse of 'e-tickets weren't around back then' doesn't hold up.
Of course it'll stay 1-day. That's a pointless jab.
You're using 'agency push' (gori-oshi) wrong.
but Pia Arena is a concert-dedicated venue — it's not needlessly tall, so sightlines are great.
And above all, the acoustics are great.
Must've been an awkward day for her yesterday.
That's bigger than Budokan.
Biyoooonzu lolololololololol (a bouncy fan-chant meme tied to Angerme)
That's the number when the whole arena floor is packed with chairs — aren't they building a sub-stage?
Morning Musume。> Angerme >>> Juice
Exactly this.
Juice ('shiru,' a mocking pun on the name) is stuck at Budokan, lololololol
DDs (fans who follow multiple groups rather than just one) probably can't spend their paid leave on Angerme since there's no graduation to draw them in.
They'll probably bring out Takeuchi and Sasaki as guests.
Dry your tears, Biyo-wota (Angerme fan nickname).
so they should be able to fit 9,000–9,500 people.
Wasn't Juice's spring show sold out at around 8,000?
Don't remember exactly, but I think the announced total was 16,000 over two days.
Dunno though.
Same as with 'Forest' — closing off sections actually makes the real numbers obvious.
Juice has already played there.
Background and Points of Debate
Pia Arena MM is a live-music-focused arena that opened in 2020; unlike multi-purpose arenas built with sports in mind, it’s often praised for its acoustics and sightlines. In recent years, more Hello! Project groups have used this venue as a step up from Nippon Budokan, and fans tend to compare attendance figures as a barometer of a group’s momentum. Note that the ‘10,000-plus’ figures raised in the thread are fan estimates and eyeball calculations, not official capacity numbers announced by the organizers. The comparison with Juice=Juice is also a recurring topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, rooted in the rivalry between groups under the same talent agency, and this thread followed that familiar pattern.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[BREAKING] Angerme’s Pia Arena MM Show Confirmed ｷﾀ━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!!.”
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