Psychiatrist Declares Saving Money the Priciest Hobby of All — 5ch Fires Back: ‘It’s Only a Hobby Because We Have No Other Hobbies’

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Psychiatrist Hideki Wada, writing for Diamond Online, argued that “the most expensive hobby of all is saving money.” Unlike gambling or travel, he says, simply hoarding cash does nothing to enrich your life — a claim that split opinion on 5ch. Some agreed that “there’s no point saving if you never spend it,” while others pushed back: “even if you’re the richest person alive when you die, that’s fine — your kids can just inherit it,” and “watching my bankbook balance climb is fun in itself.” The thread exposed just how differently people view money and happiness.

Published 9/5 (Sat) 20:30

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Say “expensive hobby” and most people picture gambling, overseas trips, or art collecting. But psychiatrist Hideki Wada points out that the priciest hobby of all is actually “saving money.” Why does endlessly hoarding cash without ever spending it end up hollowing out your life? It’s worth rethinking your relationship with money as you get older.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:48
You just grin at your bankbook, right? Sounds like you're enjoying it plenty.
81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:06
Re: #2
And that's exactly why so many people end up richest the day they die. Doesn't matter how much you saved if you never spent it.
146AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:18
Re: #2
Exactly this. You can just leave it to your kids in the end — I don't get this psychiatrist's argument at all.
24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:55
"Saving is my hobby"? Come on. You just have no other hobbies, so saving is the only thing left to do.
180AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:25
Re: #24
Watching the balance climb is genuinely fun. When it gains a digit, it feels like leveling up.
40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:58
Saving just means putting your money into yen, a currency that keeps losing value to inflation. Only an idiot would do that.
51AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:01
Re: #40
Even if it loses some value, that beats having barely any savings at all. I hold a decent chunk of safe government bonds plus a bit of stock. The advantage of cash savings is the flexibility.
46AnonymousSep 6, 2026 14:59
Wada probably has no idea how painful it is to have no money. Someone who's never struggled financially just can't grasp how much gratitude and peace of mind having money actually brings.
65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:03
Re: #46
Other psychiatrists have said the same thing. Sure, if you're struggling to the point of real hardship, you lose peace of mind — but past a certain point, saving more doesn't proportionally boost your sense of security, so it stops mattering.

Then again, if having more money truly bought more peace of mind, [comedian] Okamura wouldn't have ended up depressed.
49AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:00
True that 🦀 (a pun on "tashikani"/"indeed" — "kani" means crab, hence the emoji)
There's a single guy in his 40s still living with his parents at my job who blows money on trips, motorcycles, whatever — but he looks like he's having a blast. He keeps hitting on the new female hires, creeps them out, gets an earful from the boss, and still never quits. I guess spending money really does relieve stress.
97AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:10
Re: #49
But the single guy at my job who still lives with his parents and only ever talks about savings and investments creeps everyone out too. Save it or spend it, a grown man still living with mom and dad has it rough either way.
77AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:06
Even with 100 million yen in assets, plenty of people still drive a kei car and wear Uniqlo — that's pretty normal.
112AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
Re: #77
I don't have 100 million, but I retired early and this is basically me. My kei car is a 4WD kei — I live somewhere snowy, so it's more than enough. I've seen big heavy SUVs stuck in ditches plenty of times, while my little kei 4WD just cruises right on past them home lol
101AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:10
That said, going into debt just to fund a hobby makes you miserable too.
108AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:11
Re: #101
Nobody's recommending that.
106AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:11
Not talking about this guy specifically, but the concept of "developmental disorders," coined by people in psychiatry, is making people miserable.

So many people suffer because a family member — a kid — got diagnosed as "hattasho" (slang for developmental disorder). They're not actually disabled, just ordinary people, but this bizarre diagnosing — or really, labeling — has run rampant.
115AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:13
Re: #106
Suffering because of the diagnosis? If someone's bad enough to actually get diagnosed, the people around them were already suffering long before that. You're just blaming the diagnosis instead of accepting reality.
110AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
I'm a guy in my 50s at the bottom of the ladder — gross pay ¥180,000/month, take-home under ¥150,000 — but saving and pinching pennies is my hobby. My only "eating out" is a jumbo beef bowl twice a year when the small bonus comes in. Grinning at my bankbook now that it's finally hit ¥2 million is how I spend my downtime. Watching it climb a few tens of thousands of yen a month is the best. It took a long road to reach ¥2 million, but apparently the median savings for someone in their 50s is only ¥1.2 million — so I'm happy to finally be on the winning side.
144AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:18
Re: #110
If it's just a few tens of thousands a month, that's only 3 years.
111AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:12
It's true that having a certain amount saved does bring peace of mind.
114AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:13
Re: #111
Sure, "a certain amount." But people who call saving their hobby are way past that.
116AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:13
Paradoxically, everyone's a little "hattasho" (slang for developmental disorder). Even people who look normal, average, or unremarkable have one or two quirks.

As long as it doesn't hurt anyone, that's just personality. The whole concept of "hattasho" is what's making society worse.
136AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:16
Re: #116
Japan puts a lot of pressure on people to "be normal," but the real question is: what even is "normal"? Japan is a country where everyone's scared of this invisible thing called "normal."

Anyway, people who go around calling others "developmentally disordered" or "borderline intelligence" as an insult are usually just projecting their own complex about it onto someone else.
147AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:18
The whole point of life is supposedly to get married and raise kids, yet here are the lifelong-single 5ch guys who never married, never had kids, and just work and save money.
158AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:21
Re: #147
But single guys actually tend to have fewer assets.
167AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:23
Re: #147
There's no grand reason or purpose behind any living thing being born in the first place — it's pure chance. It's only because humans happened to develop intelligence that we want to believe there's some reason behind it. So everyone should just set their own purpose based on their own values. There's no rule or obligation about it.
168AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:23
Drinking, gambling, womanizing, smoking — a guy who does none of that, what even is he? What's he living for?
173AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:24
Re: #168
That's a real Showa-era mindset (´・ω・`) (Showa era: 1926–1989, shorthand for old-fashioned values)
177AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:25
Re: #168
Buying stocks and watching my assets grow is an absolute blast.
178AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:25
Honestly, once you hit middle age you just stop wanting things. I'm not even trying to save, but the money piles up anyway. There was so much I wanted when I was young…
186AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:26
Re: #178
That's because you've set no goals for yourself and turned into an animal that just breathes and takes 💩s. You're a beast, not a human being.
188AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:27
Re: #178
Y-yeah, fair enough… I guess the brain just stops craving stimulation as much.
204AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:30
Re: #178
Just go buy yourself a luxury car.
183AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:26
What's the real value of a life philosophy preached by someone who's talented, wealthy, and has a public platform?

Is it any use at all to an ordinary person with no particular talent, or someone from a poor family?
193AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:28
Re: #183
So you're saying a guy who just graduated from a regular high school would be more convincing?
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Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Hideki Wada is a psychiatrist known for his work on geriatric psychiatry and lifestyle advice, and his view that “money only means something if you spend it” is a stance he’s repeated throughout his own books. The thread split largely over whether saving is seen as an “end in itself” or a “means to an end” — some people genuinely enjoy the act of saving, while others see unspent savings as pointless. The counterargument that “you can leave it to your kids and grandkids eventually” reframes saving not just as personal spending but as a form of passing on wealth — a point raised in the thread that doesn’t appear in the original article. As for the link between financial security and happiness, some research suggests that once you’re above a baseline of financial hardship, savings amount and life satisfaction don’t necessarily keep rising together — which echoes the thread’s view that “having ‘some amount’ is enough.”

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Not gambling, not travel… A psychiatrist declares: ‘The most expensive hobby that won’t make you happy is saving money’.”

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