How Can We Ever Trust Square Enix Again? 5ch Weighs In: ‘Simple — Just Stop Lying and Cheating Customers’

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A thread titled “What would it take for you guys to trust Square Enix again?” popped up on the Game Hardware & Industry board (Geha), sparked by a rumor — floated by self-described FF14 faithful — that director Naoki Yoshida might become the company’s next president. Posters called for basic honesty like “don’t lie” and “don’t cheat your customers,” alongside gripes about FF16’s PS5-exclusive launch, the lack of an upgrade path for owners of older versions, and the endless remake cash grabs. At the same time, some voiced skepticism about whether Yoshida — a creator at heart — could really run a major corporation as its top executive, leaving opinion in the thread split.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:58
Yep
8AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:03
Simple: don't lie, don't cheat your customers
10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:05
Go ahead, make Yoshida president and finish the job
59AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:00
Re: #10
Either exile Yoshida, or he ends up as another Bigmotor Conan-kun lol (the eerily cheerful mascot statue that became a symbol of the Bigmotor insurance-fraud scandal)
12AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:10
Ghost-town FF14, quit dragging DQ10 down any further
13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:10
Just split up the IPs and call it done — that's probably what 3D Investment is planning anyway, they're already within 1% of becoming the top shareholder
14AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:13
A genuinely sincere company wouldn't need to put up 'let's be sincere' as a corporate goal in the first place
64AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:20
Re: #14
'Reach people's hearts'
(Quit the self-indulgent navel-gazing — if a game doesn't actually strike a chord with consumers, it won't sell and nobody'll enjoy it)

'Challenge with all your might'
(Stop half-assing it and dumping your own work on subordinates or subcontractors)

'Be a swift pioneer'
(Stop chasing trends and start making the next trend with your own head — chasing trends is exactly how the mighty FF ended up getting mocked by a French indie-made command RPG)

'Elevate each other'
(Stop working with the arrogant, self-righteous mindset that your opinion is absolute, that you're right and everyone else is wrong)

'Keep evolving'
(Stop clinging to past glories, past achievements, past successes — even FF is in danger of falling apart)

'Be sincere'
(Stop saying and doing things meant to deceive management or consumers — stop claiming things 'can't be done without PlayStation')

These are literally the company's stated Values, so what they're really saying is: change the mindset you've had ever since the PlayStation-first era
15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:13
Don't go bootlicking the Switch 2 — go down with the PS5 like you committed to
16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:14
Make a few games outside of FF and Dragon Quest that actually make people want to buy them
I'm sick to death of both FF and Dragon Quest at this point
17AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:15
Sure, there's the Builders sequel that never happened, the garbage rewrite of FFT's dialogue, the FF14 mobile flop, and plenty of other failures,
but FF16 is still the biggest one — they trashed FF15 nonstop while making it, then it flopped hard
and it's even dragging down whatever FF17 might exist someday
19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:16
After 3D Investment breaks the company up, Nintendo will probably scoop up DQ10, but nobody's gonna want deadweight FF14
20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:17
FF16 only flopped because it launched exclusive to that garbage hardware called the PS5, that's literally it
22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:18
The Switch 2 version of FFT didn't even come with a real key card — they fobbed people off with a piece of paper instead
23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:18
What exactly did Yoshida say to trash-talk FF15?
25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:21
Those fanboys swinging their pathetic 'FF14 stick' (slang for using FF14's success as a bragging weapon against other games) at everyone in every direction were so obnoxious it basically became negative PR by itself
26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:21
Excessive expectations count as harassment, so no comment
29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:25
Shirogane's next one is basically guaranteed to bomb too, but Yoshida will skate by scot-free until retirement
30AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:26
Apparently if you crack a dirty joke during a DQ10 stream your channel gets nuked by YouTube — guess this is the curse of that CERO:A rating (Japan's "all ages" content rating)…
https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1788577597/
32AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:28
At this point the only ones who still don't trust them are cockroaches 🪳
33AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:28
Cut it out with the remake cash-grabs
Put those resources into new titles instead
34AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:29
If 3D Investment becomes the top shareholder, I bet the corporate strategy changes drastically
35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:29
Yoshida's the one holding up Square Enix right now anyway
Even the president bothers to personally show up at overseas fan festivals for him, so he's safe
42AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:36
Re: #35
Time to wake up from that fantasy
37AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:32
Completely cut ties with their obsession over fossilized IPs and every ounce of arrogance built up over the years
Start fresh with the resolve of launching a brand-new studio, and make a proper game that actually matches modern quality and sensibilities

Though realistically, given their culture and talent pool, neither is happening
84AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:26
Re: #37
Do that and all you'll be left with is stuff like Left Alive or Balan Wonderworld
Though honestly, if the alternative is mangling their once-great IPs into unrecognizable garbage and getting mocked for it, maybe a Balan is the better option
47AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:42
Square Enix is still holding Chrono Trigger and Xenogears hostage
69AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:45
Re: #47
They were masterpieces back in real time, but if they dropped now, you'd probably have more fun with a decent indie game instead
53AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:52
If only they'd release an offline version of FF11
77AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:57
Re: #53
If they actually put that out, I'd switch to Team Support too
54AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:54
No upgrade path support, forcing people to rebuy at full price — that alone makes it a no-go
That's basically a cancer on the industry
79AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:29
Re: #54
'Be sincere'
57AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:59
Square Enix's presidents have always come up through finance
People from the development side only ever make it as far as VP
74AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:55
Re: #57
A lot of idiots get this wrong, but being president is a job about running the company
You don't need any talent or skill as a game creator for that role
you just have other people who are good at making games actually make them

When you think about whether Yoshida could actually run a company the size of Square Enix, it's pretty normal to conclude that quitting creative work to become a full-time executive just wouldn't work

Maybe it'd be fine if he's just a figurehead-slash-mascot for PR while the real authority goes to someone who actually knows finance
66AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:32
The only Square Enix team I still trust is the Paranormasight team
67AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:33
Re: #66
That's got the same DNA as RebeSaga (fan nickname for a SaGa-series title)
It's not Square Enix that's great, it's just that the outsourced developer is…
92AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:10
Ditch Dragon Quest and FF entirely, and put out one genuinely fun game after another
Do that much, and maybe trust starts coming back
93AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:15
Re: #92
Users pick it up precisely because the DQ or FF name is attached
If 'just being fun' were enough to sell, there'd be tons of independent creators out there who'd struck it big on their own

Since that's not the case, you see plenty of 'where'd they go after going independent, and now they're struggling' stories
Even Kojima has struggled, and he was basically king back in Konami's MGS heyday

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

The distrust surrounding Square Enix has built up over time, driven by FF16’s underwhelming PS5-exclusive launch, the business practice of forcing owners of older titles to rebuy at full price due to the lack of upgrade-path support, and frustration with the flood of remakes and ports. Where the thread split was on whether Naoki Yoshida — credited with turning FF14 around — is actually the right fit for “next president.” Some pointed out (posts 57 and 74) that the presidency at a Japanese company is fundamentally about overseeing management and finance, a different skill set entirely from development chops, while others voiced support out of sheer expectation for a marquee creator. It’s also worth noting that the claim of “Yoshida as next president” is itself framed within the thread as an unconfirmed rumor, not an official announcement.

※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry / Geha) thread “[Sincerity] What would it take for you guys to trust Square Enix again? FF14 faithful say Yoshida is next in line for president“.

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