It started with a post declaring “I want to teach people who only play Splatoon,” which spun into an argument that APEX is the “upgraded version” of Splatoon, and Helldivers 2 is the “upgraded version” of Splat Raiders (the poster’s nickname for Splatoon’s co-op mode). The poster backed up the claim with self-reported stats like hitting the S+50 rank cap and figures like “nearly 100,000 concurrent players,” but other users fired back one after another with lines like “someone who can’t get specific” and “reeks of never having played it, lol.” The thread eventually spiraled into a broader debate about the differences between the game genres themselves.
I want to explain this to people who only play Splatoon
By the way, I maxed out my rank in Splatoon 1 and hit S+50 in Splatoon 3
>>2
And also, you never even cleared floor 100 of the Mess Hall
And also, you never even cleared floor 100 of the Mess Hall
Oh, so APEX has Turf War battles?
>>3
There's a concept called Area Control — it's basically territory fighting
There's a concept called Area Control — it's basically territory fighting
APEX is nothing like Splatoon.
And what, is this a showdown between dying, low-pop games like Helldivers 2 and Raiders? lol
And what, is this a showdown between dying, low-pop games like Helldivers 2 and Raiders? lol
>>4
Helldivers 2 isn't dying. It's got concurrent player counts close to 100,000
Helldivers 2 isn't dying. It's got concurrent player counts close to 100,000
For starters, you can even play Apex on Switch
>>8
It's locked at 60fps, so you'll get outgunned by PS5 players
It's locked at 60fps, so you'll get outgunned by PS5 players
You've probably never played either one, so they look the same to you
>>12
I'd say Splatoon's tactics and teamwork are shallower than APEX's
I'd say Splatoon's tactics and teamwork are shallower than APEX's
>>10
A 'concept,' huh?
If you're gonna call it an upgrade, it better let you paint turf
A 'concept,' huh?
If you're gonna call it an upgrade, it better let you paint turf
>>16
Three players securing a wider area, getting sightlines across a broad range, and denying the enemy anywhere to hide — that's basically the same thing, right?
Three players securing a wider area, getting sightlines across a broad range, and denying the enemy anywhere to hide — that's basically the same thing, right?
>>24
If it's just part of the map instead of the whole thing, isn't that more like Area Control than Turf War?
Anyway, hurry up and actually teach us about Apex already.
All you've done is talk about Splatoon this whole time lol
If it's just part of the map instead of the whole thing, isn't that more like Area Control than Turf War?
Anyway, hurry up and actually teach us about Apex already.
All you've done is talk about Splatoon this whole time lol
>>45
Apex's current meta is Axel, Sia, and Loba
Apex's current meta is Axel, Sia, and Loba
>>45
You're probably just watching Splatoon 3 videos for a smear campaign lol
That's why you can't even give an average X Power off the top of your head, and your answers about other games are just as vague
You're probably just watching Splatoon 3 videos for a smear campaign lol
That's why you can't even give an average X Power off the top of your head, and your answers about other games are just as vague
The type who talks in broad generalizations but can't get into specifics
>>19
Seriously, that's exactly the vibe I get.
It just sounds like empty talk — 'I bought it,' 'I played it,' and that's it
Seriously, that's exactly the vibe I get.
It just sounds like empty talk — 'I bought it,' 'I played it,' and that's it
>>15
Be specific.
You've probably never even played Ranked Clam Blitz
Be specific.
You've probably never even played Ranked Clam Blitz
>>20
'Even Clam Blitz,' huh?
If you're gonna say that, it should be 'even Area Control'
'Even Clam Blitz,' huh?
If you're gonna say that, it should be 'even Area Control'
Impressive how hard you're trying with knowledge you picked up from videos
>>30
Here's some knowledge you won't get from videos: X Match didn't even exist in Splatoon 3's first season.
So when I hit S+50 max rank, I didn't get a single badge for it — pretty disappointing
Here's some knowledge you won't get from videos: X Match didn't even exist in Splatoon 3's first season.
So when I hit S+50 max rank, I didn't get a single badge for it — pretty disappointing
I did Apex's garbage tutorial that doesn't even tell you which button fires your gun, then got thrown straight into a real match and that was it
>>33
That 'garbage' Bangalore tutorial actually does teach you how to shoot.
Are you one of those old-timers still going on about Season 1 or something?
That 'garbage' Bangalore tutorial actually does teach you how to shoot.
Are you one of those old-timers still going on about Season 1 or something?
You can play Apex on Switch 2 too, so you should teach them
>>34
It's locked at 60fps and the Pro Controller quality is bad, so it's not even worth discussing
It's locked at 60fps and the Pro Controller quality is bad, so it's not even worth discussing
Salmon Run is actually the closer match to Helldivers 2
>>35
Yeah, fair enough
Yeah, fair enough
They're completely different games
>>50
Same here (lit. 'comrade').
Even though they're both co-op PvE, the concepts and the skills they demand are totally different.
I'd love to grill these never-played-it types on it, but that type has nothing but time to burn — digging through videos, and these days you can even fake it with AI
Same here (lit. 'comrade').
Even though they're both co-op PvE, the concepts and the skills they demand are totally different.
I'd love to grill these never-played-it types on it, but that type has nothing but time to burn — digging through videos, and these days you can even fake it with AI
>>48
I see. Simply put, it's a 3-team battle royale.
A battle royale is a game where you fight to be the last team standing inside a map whose playable area keeps shrinking.
Honestly, you can just run and hide until it's down to the last two teams
I see. Simply put, it's a 3-team battle royale.
A battle royale is a game where you fight to be the last team standing inside a map whose playable area keeps shrinking.
Honestly, you can just run and hide until it's down to the last two teams
>>53
That's not an 'upgrade' at all lol
That's not an 'upgrade' at all lol
>>54
It's basically the same kind of thing.
I guess you could also call it Overwatch-like, but people who played Splatoon will probably get more into APEX
It's basically the same kind of thing.
I guess you could also call it Overwatch-like, but people who played Splatoon will probably get more into APEX
>>58
Overwatch is also a completely different game
It's a game where you swap heroes mid-match — even within the same game — based on the enemy/ally composition and the map, so how do you end up saying that's the same as Splatoon?
Overwatch is also a completely different game
It's a game where you swap heroes mid-match — even within the same game — based on the enemy/ally composition and the map, so how do you end up saying that's the same as Splatoon?
>>71
If it were the same, it'd just be a ripoff.
If that were the case, people would be calling it a 'Formstar' clone or something
If it were the same, it'd just be a ripoff.
If that were the case, people would be calling it a 'Formstar' clone or something
>>80
Where's this 'similar' or 'upgrade' claim of yours even coming from?
Is it the same game just because you wipe things out?
It's not some contest over how fast you can mow down Terminids — you're allowed to just complete the objective and bail.
That's not to say Raiders is inferior either — something like the Mess Hall lets you build your own strategy on top of the base spawns plus random spawns, giving it that L4D-style appeal too.
You really don't have an eye for games, do you?
Where's this 'similar' or 'upgrade' claim of yours even coming from?
Is it the same game just because you wipe things out?
It's not some contest over how fast you can mow down Terminids — you're allowed to just complete the objective and bail.
That's not to say Raiders is inferior either — something like the Mess Hall lets you build your own strategy on top of the base spawns plus random spawns, giving it that L4D-style appeal too.
You really don't have an eye for games, do you?
>>90
Of course — since they're different games, I never said they're exactly the same.
What I mean by 'upgrade' is that there's a good chance you'd be fine just playing that one instead.
If you haven't tried it, you should — I'm just being nice here
Of course — since they're different games, I never said they're exactly the same.
What I mean by 'upgrade' is that there's a good chance you'd be fine just playing that one instead.
If you haven't tried it, you should — I'm just being nice here
>>92
That's exactly why you're getting mocked here — because it's off the mark
That's exactly why you're getting mocked here — because it's off the mark
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware & Industry (Geha)) thread “APEX, the Upgraded Version of Splatoon, and Helldivers 2, the Upgraded Version of Splat Raiders”.
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