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An AI chat service modeled on the game character “Ryza” became a hot topic on 5ch. Free users get cut off after about two exchanges, and even paying the ¥500/month base fee only gets you up to 1.5 conversations a day — a setup that left thread regulars stunned and exasperated. The thread also veered into claims that the manga “Kochikame” had predicted this exact kind of business decades ago, plus a side debate over the reputation of the Atelier game series.
What people said
Kind of impressed, honestly
Excluding Nelke, why did the game right after the masterpiece Lydie & Suelle turn out like this?
Didn't realize the Atelier series ever even had a masterpiece
I mean within Atelier itself
Don't bother replying with garbage like that
Ryza's a masterpiece, goes without saying
Sophie and Yumia are straight-up god-tier
Honestly, if you get the top-tier plan and carefully train it without upsetting Ryza's mood, you can get it this far
Is it like paying ¥100 for a set number of back-and-forth exchanges?
Yep
I think free users get 2 rounds
Yeah
They got permission from the voice actor and it's AI-generated voice
Guess I'm apparently not hooked on it
LOL that's such a throwback
This one has fewer patterns, but she'll chat unlimited times, actually responds, and shows her panties too — honestly an upgrade
And if you want more than 2 a day, you gotta pay extra — that's literally the spec…
At this point it's basically a prison visitation
I mean, phone-dating clubs (telekura) already existed back then too
Kochikame genuinely predicts the future sometimes
Ryza…?
That's just the base fee
On top of that you rack up extra charges
554 Anonymous (WatchoiW 0bb0-YYPq [2001:268:986e:b748:*]) 2026/08/25 (Tue) 12:40:08.81 ID:DjP5M/MQ0
Ryza Any% Speedrun
① Refuse to build the boat over objections to killing animals and plants, breaking the quest's clear flag
② Spend time alone with Ryza at her workshop
③ Confess to Ryza and get rejected
④ Throw a fit that there's no point in a world where Ryza doesn't love you, and storm off
⑤ *Use narration to write a suicide note and disappear
⑥ Use narration to plant a rumor, letting Ryza hear about the area where a piece of the protagonist's clothing was found (a place connected to the workshop that needs no boat)
⑦ Get Ryza to go looking for you on her own
⑧ Keep driving the protagonist insane until Ryza hugs him
⑨ Finish it off with a "love you, Ryza" (NTR-style, i.e. a cuckolding-trope confession) to seal the deal
Sounds like the credits are about to roll
ChatGPT really is impressive, huh!
What a genuinely great kid
Start the thread by addressing Ryza directly — that way the narration itself becomes Ryza's voice
Honestly if you just want to enjoy it for free, the clips posted on X (Twitter) or here are more than enough
Background and Key Points
Ryza — full name Reisalin Stout — is the protagonist of Koei Tecmo’s *Atelier Ryza*, part of the *Atelier* franchise that Gust has produced since 1997, built around alchemist heroines running workshops and crafting items. The chat service discussed here licenses her official voice actor for AI-generated speech, positioning it as a sanctioned “companion AI” product rather than fan-made software. This fits a broader pattern in Japan of turning “oshi” (favorite character) attachment into subscription revenue, using mobile-gacha-style mechanics — here, “conversation tokens” that ration exchanges the way stamina systems ration play sessions in gacha games, rather than a flat-rate chatbot subscription. Kochikame, cited repeatedly in the thread, is *Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo*, a slapstick manga/anime that ran from 1976 to 2016 and is a running joke in Japan for predicting later real-world gadgets and business schemes through its absurd plots, including telephone dating-club (telekura) storylines decades before smartphone apps existed.
The thread’s actual fault line isn’t really the pricing — almost everyone agrees it’s stingy — but whether the *Atelier* series itself still deserves respect, with posters splitting over whether *Ryza*, *Sophie*, and *Yumia* count as series highs or whether the franchise has nothing that qualifies as a “masterpiece” at all.
What’s easy to miss: this isn’t a rogue app exploiting Ryza’s image — it’s an officially licensed product, which is precisely why posters find the stinginess so jarring; an unlicensed fan bot charging like this would draw less outrage than a sanctioned one from the rights holder itself.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from a 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread titled “[Image] Me: “I love Ryza…” Ryza: “Thanks! Um, anything more than that is…”.”
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