An AI chat service modeled on the game character “Ryza” became a hot topic on 5ch. Free users get cut off after about two exchanges, and even paying the ¥500/month base fee only gets you up to 1.5 conversations a day — a setup that left thread regulars stunned and exasperated. The thread also veered into claims that the manga “Kochikame” had predicted this exact kind of business decades ago, plus a side debate over the reputation of the Atelier game series.
This is straight-up taking the piss, seriously.
LOL you can't even have a proper conversation without paying up
Gotta wonder how anyone even comes up with this stuff
Kind of impressed, honestly
Kind of impressed, honestly
Just get ChatGPT (nicknamed "Chappy" by Japanese users) to roleplay as Ryza instead lol
Can't they just do something like Love Plus (the classic Nintendo DS dating sim)?
Imagine not being able to spare like ¥6,000 a year for something you actually love…
Atelier's really fallen this far, huh
Excluding Nelke, why did the game right after the masterpiece Lydie & Suelle turn out like this?
Excluding Nelke, why did the game right after the masterpiece Lydie & Suelle turn out like this?
>>23
Didn't realize the Atelier series ever even had a masterpiece
Didn't realize the Atelier series ever even had a masterpiece
>>27
I mean within Atelier itself
Don't bother replying with garbage like that
I mean within Atelier itself
Don't bother replying with garbage like that
>>27
Ryza's a masterpiece, goes without saying
Sophie and Yumia are straight-up god-tier
Ryza's a masterpiece, goes without saying
Sophie and Yumia are straight-up god-tier
Honestly, if you get the top-tier plan and carefully train it without upsetting Ryza's mood, you can get it this far
Pretty sure Kochikame had an episode just like this
What even are "conversation tokens"…
Is it like paying ¥100 for a set number of back-and-forth exchanges?
Is it like paying ¥100 for a set number of back-and-forth exchanges?
>>37
Yep
I think free users get 2 rounds
Yep
I think free users get 2 rounds
Does it have a voice?
>>39
Yeah
They got permission from the voice actor and it's AI-generated voice
Yeah
They got permission from the voice actor and it's AI-generated voice
Funny thing is, the guys hooked on this used to go online and look down on dudes who visit hostess clubs
>>49
Guess I'm apparently not hooked on it
Guess I'm apparently not hooked on it
That's the thing Sakonji got hooked on in Kochikame
>>65
LOL that's such a throwback
LOL that's such a throwback
Is this basically the modern version of that?
>>77
This one has fewer patterns, but she'll chat unlimited times, actually responds, and shows her panties too — honestly an upgrade
This one has fewer patterns, but she'll chat unlimited times, actually responds, and shows her panties too — honestly an upgrade
Even paying ¥500 a month, you only get 1.5 conversations a day!
And if you want more than 2 a day, you gotta pay extra — that's literally the spec…
And if you want more than 2 a day, you gotta pay extra — that's literally the spec…
>>82
At this point it's basically a prison visitation
At this point it's basically a prison visitation
Kochikame really has done it all
>>86
I mean, phone-dating clubs (telekura) already existed back then too
I mean, phone-dating clubs (telekura) already existed back then too
>>86
Kochikame genuinely predicts the future sometimes
Kochikame genuinely predicts the future sometimes
Ryza…?
A hostess club for ¥500 a month is a steal though
>>97
That's just the base fee
On top of that you rack up extra charges
That's just the base fee
On top of that you rack up extra charges
LOL
554 Anonymous (WatchoiW 0bb0-YYPq [2001:268:986e:b748:*]) 2026/08/25 (Tue) 12:40:08.81 ID:DjP5M/MQ0
Ryza Any% Speedrun
① Refuse to build the boat over objections to killing animals and plants, breaking the quest's clear flag
② Spend time alone with Ryza at her workshop
③ Confess to Ryza and get rejected
④ Throw a fit that there's no point in a world where Ryza doesn't love you, and storm off
⑤ *Use narration to write a suicide note and disappear
⑥ Use narration to plant a rumor, letting Ryza hear about the area where a piece of the protagonist's clothing was found (a place connected to the workshop that needs no boat)
⑦ Get Ryza to go looking for you on her own
⑧ Keep driving the protagonist insane until Ryza hugs him
⑨ Finish it off with a "love you, Ryza" (NTR-style, i.e. a cuckolding-trope confession) to seal the deal
554 Anonymous (WatchoiW 0bb0-YYPq [2001:268:986e:b748:*]) 2026/08/25 (Tue) 12:40:08.81 ID:DjP5M/MQ0
Ryza Any% Speedrun
① Refuse to build the boat over objections to killing animals and plants, breaking the quest's clear flag
② Spend time alone with Ryza at her workshop
③ Confess to Ryza and get rejected
④ Throw a fit that there's no point in a world where Ryza doesn't love you, and storm off
⑤ *Use narration to write a suicide note and disappear
⑥ Use narration to plant a rumor, letting Ryza hear about the area where a piece of the protagonist's clothing was found (a place connected to the workshop that needs no boat)
⑦ Get Ryza to go looking for you on her own
⑧ Keep driving the protagonist insane until Ryza hugs him
⑨ Finish it off with a "love you, Ryza" (NTR-style, i.e. a cuckolding-trope confession) to seal the deal
>>107
Sounds like the credits are about to roll
Sounds like the credits are about to roll
What even is this guy lol
>>111
ChatGPT really is impressive, huh!
ChatGPT really is impressive, huh!
>>111
What a genuinely great kid
What a genuinely great kid
>>111
Start the thread by addressing Ryza directly — that way the narration itself becomes Ryza's voice
Start the thread by addressing Ryza directly — that way the narration itself becomes Ryza's voice
Isn't the usual playbook to eat the loss at first and go free just to grow the user base?
>>129
Honestly if you just want to enjoy it for free, the clips posted on X (Twitter) or here are more than enough
Honestly if you just want to enjoy it for free, the clips posted on X (Twitter) or here are more than enough
*This article is excerpted and summarized from a 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread titled “[Image] Me: “I love Ryza…” Ryza: “Thanks! Um, anything more than that is…”.”
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